⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Cryptomultiplier]

I started thinking that it isn't related to Pochettino. Because it was the same when Chelsea had Potter also. Nothing has changed now when it comes to their performance. Chelsea are continuning to spend a great deal of money but there is still no proper result of it. The amount they have spent in the recent 2 years is really scary - ~1 billion euros.  

I think it might be related to the way the whole team is managed right now. Todd Boehly might need to make some changes in his management style maybe.

Because the current way doesn't work at all. I would really like to see another owner here to see if there will be anything changing.

It is fine that people have started to realize that Chelsea's problem is not all about the coaches but has more to do with the management's change of mentality. The  Chelsea management needs to understand that rebuilding Chelsea will not only cost money, it will  cost time and patient. It will also need consistency and not an overnight miracle.
No club changes management and sales almost all the old and experienced players and will think to bounce back just immediately. There must be process to follow and both Chelsea and their fans must agree to follow the process in order to climb back to the victory lane. Pochettino can be the man to do it for them but they have to be patient and learn to trust the process.

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.
Last season it was Liverpool as among the big clubs am referring to.
The reality with Chelsea that I have also known is the fact of pressing players to perform who normally should first bond. Individualistic plays don't ever produce the needed result in team settings like football, especially when the team ain't playing around a particular player.

[CLS63]

Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

[Sakanwa]

Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

Son is the main man for Totthenham,he is the only player that has made most Totthenham fans not to feel the absence of Kane in the team.Richarlison in the other hand not going to get a starting spot as long as Son remains the man that the coach has chosen to be the top nine.They have good wingers now that are making the difference at the team and the most important element about their game is the fact that they have that winning mentality in the team now,and it is whats making them win games.Son can go on to be one of the highest goal scorers this season because he is doing incredibly well.

I will wait to see whether Totthenham can qualify for champions league this season or not,they are unbeaten in the league  now,but We'll see whether they can sustain it or not.

[RaltcoinsB]

Tottenham's rise this season is really difficult to overlook now. Their performance against Arsenal was also impressive. Heung-Min Son is playing at a really different level this season. He is doing his best to fill the space occured after Kane left the team. He is playing in Kane's position in the lineup at the same time but this doesn't create any negative situation for him.

He is a player who can play on the wing and as a centre-forward both. Richarlison needs to work harder to get back the shirt from him. He became hero against Sheffield Utd by scoring 2 goals you know. But he still entered in the 79th minute against Arsenal. He needs to find a way to show to the coach that he is ready for the starting eleven again.

Son and Harry were two amazing actors. We have seen many times over the years that they get along very well. This year, when Harry left the team, Son was left alone. In this case, I was expecting a drop in performance, but he proved us all wrong and plays great. One of the main elements in Tottenham's rise is Son. Let's see how many goals he will score by the end of this year.

[samuraijin]

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

[Strongkored]

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

It is a valuable lesson for clubs who have large or even unlimited funds that transfers of players that they carry out without carefulness will lead to losses, and I think Chelsea is heading in that direction because they have not gotten a return that matches what they have spent since changing ownership, the current owner of Chelsea is certainly not happy with what is happening at his club and may be starting to think that he has made another mistake in buying and choosing a coach for his club.
Meanwhile, Manchester United seems to have more problems with their players and it is reported that Jadon Sancho is prohibited from using all the main facilities at Manchester United including the dining room, and another player is not playing until the violence case he is accused of is resolved.
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The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

I think that you shall know the differences betwen problems faced by united/chelsea.

United is only facing troubles on its defenders while it's still being able in scoring to win the game against its opponent. Although United is underperforming, they can still beat weaker clubs like Burnley or Nottingham Forest, which Chelsea may struggle with.
Ten hag is still having enough time to turn this around. The different problems faced by chelsea caused by all of the positions are in troubles right now. We shall look at the overall results from chelsea and manchesterunited.

United is still having reliable attackers that can help the club to win the game. The result achieved by chelsea was even worst even its fans are feeling so angry to their favorite club.
They have no tolerance anymore for pochettino and its players. Chelsea terrible club.

It's too inconsistent, it has no plan and tactic. Everything about chelsea is about the club that may be relegated.

[QueenVera]

I think that you shall know the differences betwen problems faced by united/chelsea.

United is only facing troubles on its defenders while it's still being able in scoring to win the game against its opponent. Although United is underperforming, they can still beat weaker clubs like Burnley or Nottingham Forest, which Chelsea may struggle with.
Ten hag is still having enough time to turn this around. The different problems faced by chelsea caused by all of the positions are in troubles right now. We shall look at the overall results from chelsea and manchesterunited.

United is still having reliable attackers that can help the club to win the game. The result achieved by chelsea was even worst even its fans are feeling so angry to their favorite club.
They have no tolerance anymore for pochettino and its players. Chelsea terrible club.

It's too inconsistent, it has no plan and tactic. Everything about chelsea is about the club that may be relegated.

United are having a match with Crystal Palace today in the EFL tournament and i expected to have a brilliant performance in the first game of their trophy defense, they're not really in a good form currently but According to the news i reads that most of their injured players are gradually returning back to the training ground therefore i expect a massive rotation today especially from the midfield area, I think several players needs to be rested against their match again with Palace in the EPL,  they'll play twice with Palace this week, In the EFL and EPL tournament therefore would need their players to be fit for both matches, Crystal Is not a very small team and therefore shouldn't be underestimated.

 As for chelsea, I think the club is just so unfortunate this season cause they've invested alot in the teams success but are not getting good results to show for it, and that's why the fans are impatient with Pouchettino, but they shouldn't forget that the team is playing good football but are lacking a good finisher to get the goals coming and that why they're suffering this season, however they should support Pochettino's plan for the future and give him more time to succeed.

[hahay]

The issue of management is what's rightly responsible for both Chelsea and Manchester united woes.

Unfortunately there is no effort that can be made from these two big clubs, so it is not surprising that the game and performance in several weeks has not changed for the better, in fact Chelsea is getting worse and is on the verge of relegation, it is a waste of time to buy a player who has a fairly well-known name. but it didn't have any impact on the team, while Manchester United also had expensive players and even brought in expensive players and goalkeepers several times, it didn't make the team better and even made fun of the opposing team, of course it's a shame for these two clubs, I hope there will be changes in next season..

Yes, bad management has had a very negative impact on the performance of Chelsea and Manchester United. But yes, if we consider finances, then of course Chelsea and Manchester United have good finances. Therefore, even though they have good finances but at the same time they do not have proper management, then of course the money they spend in the transfer window also does not have a good impact on their performance. Although in reality, at least when a team has good finances at least their performance will also be good but unfortunately, this factor is not working well for Chelsea and Manchester United at this moment.

[yudi09]

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The departure of Harry Kane and the arrival of a manager who is not a high-profile manager has helped Tottenham. Because the expectation has dropped. The players are more relaxed and enjoy playing more. The team has a clear game, a philosophy and now I think it is the most enjoyable and best playing team in the league. James Maddison has changed Tottenham's mood. He's become a key player this year, he's a very quality player, the fact that he got himself out of Leicester City, in my opinion, has helped him. I hope he will be successful and we will be able to watch him in a top team.

Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.

[Sakanwa]

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The departure of Harry Kane and the arrival of a manager who is not a high-profile manager has helped Tottenham. Because the expectation has dropped. The players are more relaxed and enjoy playing more. The team has a clear game, a philosophy and now I think it is the most enjoyable and best playing team in the league. James Maddison has changed Tottenham's mood. He's become a key player this year, he's a very quality player, the fact that he got himself out of Leicester City, in my opinion, has helped him. I hope he will be successful and we will be able to watch him in a top team.

Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.

You are right,but to me,the number one person who has been instrumental to the change at Totthenham is Maddison,who came as their messiah,and to take the void left by Kane,who joined Bayern Munich to seek Champions league football.He still respected Totthenham by not joining any of the EPL rival club.Maddison whose presence at the club has really erased Kane's memory from the heart of their fans  has combined so well with Son and Johnson who is also a new signing from Forest to make Totthenham fans happy once again,because last season,was really terrible for them.
However,we hope that this season will be one of their best seasons for years,and I pray they continue impressing and proving people wrong about them.

[bitLeap]

Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.

It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.

[Juggy777]

Incidentally, after Harry Kane left, Tottenham's game began to change to what it is now. For me it's not because of that, but because of the arrival of a new coach. Tottenham's game now is similar to the game when Mauricio Pochettino was still coaching. After Pochettino left for PSG, Tottenham's game was unstable, including in the hands of Mourinho and Conte.
The effects of Ange Postecoglou as a coach and James Maddison I think are very different. Tottenham's playing philosophy is starting to be interesting to watch.

It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.

@bitleap I have watched Tottenham play this season and they have massively improved their game and to be honest I had no idea about their coach but now I feel that he’s in the league of Pep and Klopp. Furthermore Son has made it his personal mission to carry Tottenham to the finish line this season and while I knew he was good from his past display’s but now he’s unlocked a new version of himself and lastly I believe that he’ll only continue to improve as this season progresses ahead.

[Rampagoe004]

It's too inconsistent, it has no plan and tactic. Everything about chelsea is about the club that may be relegated.

Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.

[Plaguedeath]

Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.

Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.

[yudi09]

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You are right,but to me,the number one person who has been instrumental to the change at Totthenham is Maddison,who came as their messiah,and to take the void left by Kane,who joined Bayern Munich to seek Champions league football.He still respected Totthenham by not joining any of the EPL rival club.Maddison whose presence at the club has really erased Kane's memory from the heart of their fans  has combined so well with Son and Johnson who is also a new signing from Forest to make Totthenham fans happy once again,because last season,was really terrible for them.

James Maddison's figure in the team as you say is like a virus that quickly spread into Tottenham's game at least until last week's London derby match. His role in the squad since joining from Leicester City has been very important in setting the tempo of the game. For me, Maddison also often made mistakes by wasting good opportunities during the 6 times he was played by Postecoglou. During the match against Arsenal, several of his shots often strayed far from the opponent's goal which could have been a goal but were not really noticed because overall, he performed very well. He was able to make good statistics in 6 games with 2 goals and 4 assists so his rating reached 8.26.

However,we hope that this season will be one of their best seasons for years,and I pray they continue impressing and proving people wrong about them.

Because there is still a long way to go this season and if their performance does not decline, the competition in the English league will be even tighter and will not be dominated by one team.

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It is true that there are differences in Spurs game, including their playing philosophy, it is difficult to express but it can be seen from the way they play. Now Son can even be said to be Harry Kane's replacement striker. Son has more freedom to act as an executor and his role at Spurs is as a mastermind of attack strategy. True or not, Ange Postecoglou presence at Spurs proves that even without Harry Kane, the squad can still perform extraordinary. Urging Spurs fans to move on from Kane and Ange Postecoglou brings something new.

Son, Maddison, Ange Postecoglou without the support of everyone involved also cannot make Tottenham like the 6 matches that have been played.
These three figures have played a big role in Tottenham's performance this season with a good start.
Kane remains a legend for Spurs fans because Kane's role while at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium was quite large with his extraordinary loyalty.

[hahay]

Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.

Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.

It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.

[QueenVera]

It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.

There's not Interesting about Chelsea being relegated after spending millions just to develop the club to a better standard that would be a very bad record for the club and for the owner of the team, I don't expect them to sack the coach yet cause they might be in a hurry to appoint another wrong manager, Pochettino is not a bad coach and he deserves to be given more time to build his team, but i think he needs to act fast and come up with a better strategy for them to start winning games.
 
 The things about the team is that they're playing good football  but finding it difficult to score goals, I feel they should had allowed Lukaku stay to support Jackson who' was a second striker for his previous team and inexperienced as well, they'll be playing against Brighton today and I doubt if they'll win cause Brighton are in a better form than Chelsea this season.

[asriloni]

Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.

Yep it seems high unlikely Chelsea will be relegated to Championship league, but honestly I hope it will happen lol. I want to see Chelsea get relegated because this will make every people e.g. owner, management, coach, player and everyone who work for Chelsea need to introspection whether they're good or not.

Statistically, chelsea is unlikely to be relegated this season even though they have really bad performance this season but if we are seeing based on the various factors that may affect the result of table at the end of season chelsea has chance to be relegated.
Everything is still remain uncertain at this moment. We don't even know what's going on with newly promoted club in middle and end of season. They can also comeback and beating chelsea as well.
This will be a huge turn around for those promoted clubs to push chelsea deep to be relegated this season.

After making a big change, I believe they will back to Premier League and might be one of strong candidate to become a champion.

The question how long? There is still a chance for chelsea to be relegated. Chelsea's coach never accept any criticism that was coming toward him. There must be some changes to be made by the club.
Some players like sterline are always wasting the chances. Chelsea lack of player with good one touch. It makes the club feel so hard in scoring goal against other club.

[Sakanwa]

It would be interesting if Chelsea ended up being relegated because of course, that would be a big lesson for their management. But yes, it looks like if Chelsea keeps Pochettino until the end of the season, then it seems quite possible for Chelsea to be relegated. Moreover, if for example Pochettino is fired in the middle of this season and Chelsea appoints the wrong coach again, then the final path will indeed be relegation. Because basically, the players that Chelsea currently has can be assumed to be new players and do not have strong chemistry between the players. Therefore, it is natural that Chelsea is still having difficulty forming a better team at this moment.

There's not Interesting about Chelsea being relegated after spending millions just to develop the club to a better standard that would be a very bad record for the club and for the owner of the team, I don't expect them to sack the coach yet cause they might be in a hurry to appoint another wrong manager, Pochettino is not a bad coach and he deserves to be given more time to build his team, but i think he needs to act fast and come up with a better strategy for them to start winning games.
 
 The things about the team is that they're playing good football  but finding it difficult to score goals, I feel they should had allowed Lukaku stay to support Jackson who' was a second striker for his previous team and inexperienced as well, they'll be playing against Brighton today and I doubt if they'll win cause Brighton are in a better form than Chelsea this season.

Chelsea are really in a mess at the moment,and if care is not taken, Pochetino will definitely loose his job,which will be very pathetic because everyone loves the coach,it is very sad that things are not happening the way he planned.I am very confident that he wanted to build a strong young team that can combat with any team in the league,but it is just so sad that he isnt getting the right formula and strategy to win games.About five games have been played already in the premier league,and they are sitting 14 on the league table which is very bad for a big club like Chelsea,and the kind of investment they made in the last transfer window.They just still have to be patient with him,maybe till December.