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761  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [IPO] CoinPal - Crypto-Currency Exchange & Profit Switching Mining Pool {NEW} on: July 01, 2014, 11:57:46 PM
He did it so he could get more coin on the 2nd round, he used the first round to buy personal miners. You can check Winterparkers post and follow that, he also I assume used the bitcoins to pay for and promote his fathers business illegally. Anyone who has suffered loss of business due to those fraud reviews can sue his father.

Paid bitcoins to promote his fathers business?! haha, his father could buy your whole family, put them on a corner in Houston, and pimp them out to pay dividends...

Dude we have a links to prove it.... Personal attacks real adult BRB gonna get that link.
762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: July 01, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
something tells me its mastercard....
763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: July 01, 2014, 01:12:28 PM
I am going to put my guess in that these  coins sold at spot... Just a feeling I have.
764  Economy / Securities / Re: ►► [COINSPEED] ►► Advanced Bitcoin Mining Project ► 1st Dividend Paid on: July 01, 2014, 10:26:17 AM
He showed pictures of mining gear and a invoice, but no proof they are actually his. Just pictures no pretty little sign that says coinspeed.

It ScreamsSCAM all over.
765  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 6/30/2012 - Barry Silbert Second Market - Twitter - outbid on all blocks on: July 01, 2014, 09:35:11 AM
I am thinking people bid spot, This is my theory don't flame it, subscribe to it or like it if you do not agree lol.

Buying large amounts of coins on the open market would push the price up, so if someone had the capital to buy large amounts of coins they would infact need I would guess about 10% on top of the spot price to adjust for the increase. The buying the blocks at spot actually is a good deal if you look at it from that view, there is no way you could get large amounts of coins on the open market with out a price increase of some shape or form.

Just my theory lol
766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: July 01, 2014, 09:18:06 AM
File a freedom of information act request "FOIA"
Done.  Now we will see how long it takes.
You cannot make a FOIA for any piece of information from the government. There are a lot of exemptions to having to disclose information from a FOIA

Yes you can, it up to them if they want to release it. Hence the Freedom of Information act not the limted information act. People request things all the time you would not believe, be Alex Jones puts in 1000 FOIA a week.
767  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: July 01, 2014, 08:07:48 AM
Second Market Guy said they lost at below spot, he did not go on to say what the actual bid was though. My guess is they went at spot or maybe a little higher.


THIS IS JUST A GUESS
768  Economy / Securities / Re: Pay Through Shares Prospectus on: July 01, 2014, 02:37:57 AM
For the love of shills....
769  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 6/30/2012 - Barry Silbert Second Market - Twitter - outbid on all blocks on: July 01, 2014, 01:33:37 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/30/us-usa-bitcoin-auction-idUSKBN0F52N420140630?feedType=RSS

Same stuff different spin, the only thing they said about the bid was it was below market price. So maybe they ended up going for market price.
770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: July 01, 2014, 01:29:29 AM
Here is some fresh info

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/483692873855299584

Announcement: The SecondMarket / Bitcoin Investment Trust bidding syndicate for the US Marshals bitcoin auction was outbid on all blocks

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/30/us-usa-bitcoin-auction-idUSKBN0F52N420140630?feedType=RSS
771  Bitcoin / Press / 6/30/2012 - Barry Silbert Second Market - Twitter - outbid on all blocks on: July 01, 2014, 01:28:44 AM
https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/483692873855299584

Announcement: The SecondMarket / Bitcoin Investment Trust bidding syndicate for the US Marshals bitcoin auction was outbid on all blocks
772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: June 30, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
Guys? The losers can come forward too you know, why does nobody mention that?

Are you a bidder in the auction? Are you familiar with the terms? As it is a closed/private auction, how are you so sure that participants are not subject to non-disclosure requirements?

They're not.

Interesting. So you are a bidder? Or you have seen something to this effect from a reliable source? Pardon me if I don't simply take your word for it. Smiley I have a feeling this sort of deal comes with some fine print.

There's no disclosure clause, the winners can choose to stay private or out themselves.
and I do have intimate knowledge of how this auction worked so you can believe it or not!

ERRRNT wrong

File a freedom of information act request "FOIA"

Only way DOJ will not release information is under exemption 4


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§ 16.8Business information.
(a) In general. Business information obtained by the Department from a submitter will be disclosed under the FOIA only under this section.
(b) Definitions. For purposes of this section:
(1) Business information means commercial or financial information obtained by the Department from a submitter that may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4 of the FOIA.
(2) Submitter means any person or entity from whom the Department obtains business information, directly or indirectly. The term includes corporations; state, local, and tribal governments; and foreign governments.
(c) Designation of business information. A submitter of business information will use good-faith efforts to designate, by appropriate markings, either at the time of submission or at a reasonable time thereafter, any portions of its submission that it considers to be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4. These designations will expire ten years after the date of the submission unless the submitter requests, and provides justification for, a longer designation period.
(d) Notice to submitters. A component shall provide a submitter with prompt written notice of a FOIA request or administrative appeal that seeks its business information wherever required under paragraph (e) of this section, except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, in order to give the submitter an opportunity to object to disclosure of any specified portion of that information under paragraph (f) of this section. The notice shall either describe the business information requested or include copies of the requested records or record portions containing the information. When notification of a voluminous number of submitters is required, notification may be made by posting or publishing the notice in a place reasonably likely to accomplish it.
(e) Where notice is required. Notice shall be given to a submitter wherever:
(1) The information has been designated in good faith by the submitter as information considered protected from disclosure under Exemption 4; or
(2) The component has reason to believe that the information may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4.
(f) Opportunity to object to disclosure. A component will allow a submitter a reasonable time to respond to the notice described in paragraph (d) of this section and will specify that time period within the notice. If a submitter has any objection to disclosure, it is required to submit a detailed written statement. The statement must specify all grounds for withholding any portion of the information under any exemption of the FOIA and, in the case of Exemption 4, it must show why the information is a trade secret or commercial or financial information that is privileged or confidential. In the event that a submitter fails to respond to the notice within the time specified in it, the submitter will be considered to have no objection to disclosure of the information. Information provided by the submitter that is not received by the component until after its disclosure decision has been made shall not be considered by the component. Information provided by a submitter under this paragraph may itself be subject to disclosure under the FOIA.
(g) Notice of intent to disclose. A component shall consider a submitter's objections and specific grounds for nondisclosure in deciding whether to disclose business information. Whenever a component decides to disclose business information over the objection of a submitter, the component shall give the submitter written notice, which shall include:
(1) A statement of the reason(s) why each of the submitter's disclosure objections was not sustained;
(2) A description of the business information to be disclosed; and
(3) A specified disclosure date, which shall be a reasonable time subsequent to the notice.
(h) Exceptions to notice requirements. The notice requirements of paragraphs (d) and (g) of this section shall not apply if:
(1) The component determines that the information should not be disclosed;
(2) The information lawfully has been published or has been officially made available to the public;
(3) Disclosure of the information is required by statute (other than the FOIA) or by a regulation issued in accordance with the requirements of Executive Order 12600 (3 CFR, 1988 Comp., p. 235); or
(4) The designation made by the submitter under paragraph (c) of this section appears obviously frivolous—except that, in such a case, the component shall, within a reasonable time prior to a specified disclosure date, give the submitter written notice of any final decision to disclose the information.
(i) Notice of FOIA lawsuit. Whenever a requester files a lawsuit seeking to compel the disclosure of business information, the component shall promptly notify the submitter.
(j) Corresponding notice to requesters. Whenever a component provides a submitter with notice and an opportunity to object to disclosure under paragraph (d) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a component notifies a submitter of its intent to disclose requested information under paragraph (g) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a submitter files a lawsuit seeking to prevent the disclosure of business information, the component shall notify the requester(s).
[Order No. 2156-98, 63 FR 29593, June 1, 1998; 63 FR 51401, Sept. 25, 1998]


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Exemption 4
Exemption 4 of the FOIA protects "trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person [that is] privileged or confidential." (1) This exemption is intended to protect the interests of both the government and submitters of information. Its very existence encourages submitters to voluntarily furnish useful commercial or financial information to the government and it correspondingly provides the government with an assurance that such information will be reliable. The exemption also affords protection to those submitters who are required to furnish commercial or financial information to the government by safeguarding them from the competitive disadvantages that could result from disclosure. (2) The exemption covers two broad categories of information in federal agency records: (1) trade secrets; and (2) information that is (a) commercial or financial, and (b) obtained from a person, and (c) privileged or confidential

They are not going to give you the bank account # of the people who got the coins lol
773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 30, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
Only way DOJ will not release information is under exemption 4


Quote
§ 16.8Business information.
(a) In general. Business information obtained by the Department from a submitter will be disclosed under the FOIA only under this section.
(b) Definitions. For purposes of this section:
(1) Business information means commercial or financial information obtained by the Department from a submitter that may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4 of the FOIA.
(2) Submitter means any person or entity from whom the Department obtains business information, directly or indirectly. The term includes corporations; state, local, and tribal governments; and foreign governments.
(c) Designation of business information. A submitter of business information will use good-faith efforts to designate, by appropriate markings, either at the time of submission or at a reasonable time thereafter, any portions of its submission that it considers to be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4. These designations will expire ten years after the date of the submission unless the submitter requests, and provides justification for, a longer designation period.
(d) Notice to submitters. A component shall provide a submitter with prompt written notice of a FOIA request or administrative appeal that seeks its business information wherever required under paragraph (e) of this section, except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, in order to give the submitter an opportunity to object to disclosure of any specified portion of that information under paragraph (f) of this section. The notice shall either describe the business information requested or include copies of the requested records or record portions containing the information. When notification of a voluminous number of submitters is required, notification may be made by posting or publishing the notice in a place reasonably likely to accomplish it.
(e) Where notice is required. Notice shall be given to a submitter wherever:
(1) The information has been designated in good faith by the submitter as information considered protected from disclosure under Exemption 4; or
(2) The component has reason to believe that the information may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4.
(f) Opportunity to object to disclosure. A component will allow a submitter a reasonable time to respond to the notice described in paragraph (d) of this section and will specify that time period within the notice. If a submitter has any objection to disclosure, it is required to submit a detailed written statement. The statement must specify all grounds for withholding any portion of the information under any exemption of the FOIA and, in the case of Exemption 4, it must show why the information is a trade secret or commercial or financial information that is privileged or confidential. In the event that a submitter fails to respond to the notice within the time specified in it, the submitter will be considered to have no objection to disclosure of the information. Information provided by the submitter that is not received by the component until after its disclosure decision has been made shall not be considered by the component. Information provided by a submitter under this paragraph may itself be subject to disclosure under the FOIA.
(g) Notice of intent to disclose. A component shall consider a submitter's objections and specific grounds for nondisclosure in deciding whether to disclose business information. Whenever a component decides to disclose business information over the objection of a submitter, the component shall give the submitter written notice, which shall include:
(1) A statement of the reason(s) why each of the submitter's disclosure objections was not sustained;
(2) A description of the business information to be disclosed; and
(3) A specified disclosure date, which shall be a reasonable time subsequent to the notice.
(h) Exceptions to notice requirements. The notice requirements of paragraphs (d) and (g) of this section shall not apply if:
(1) The component determines that the information should not be disclosed;
(2) The information lawfully has been published or has been officially made available to the public;
(3) Disclosure of the information is required by statute (other than the FOIA) or by a regulation issued in accordance with the requirements of Executive Order 12600 (3 CFR, 1988 Comp., p. 235); or
(4) The designation made by the submitter under paragraph (c) of this section appears obviously frivolous—except that, in such a case, the component shall, within a reasonable time prior to a specified disclosure date, give the submitter written notice of any final decision to disclose the information.
(i) Notice of FOIA lawsuit. Whenever a requester files a lawsuit seeking to compel the disclosure of business information, the component shall promptly notify the submitter.
(j) Corresponding notice to requesters. Whenever a component provides a submitter with notice and an opportunity to object to disclosure under paragraph (d) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a component notifies a submitter of its intent to disclose requested information under paragraph (g) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a submitter files a lawsuit seeking to prevent the disclosure of business information, the component shall notify the requester(s).
[Order No. 2156-98, 63 FR 29593, June 1, 1998; 63 FR 51401, Sept. 25, 1998]


Quote
Exemption 4
Exemption 4 of the FOIA protects "trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person [that is] privileged or confidential." (1) This exemption is intended to protect the interests of both the government and submitters of information. Its very existence encourages submitters to voluntarily furnish useful commercial or financial information to the government and it correspondingly provides the government with an assurance that such information will be reliable. The exemption also affords protection to those submitters who are required to furnish commercial or financial information to the government by safeguarding them from the competitive disadvantages that could result from disclosure. (2) The exemption covers two broad categories of information in federal agency records: (1) trade secrets; and (2) information that is (a) commercial or financial, and (b) obtained from a person, and (c) privileged or confidential

They are not going to give you the bank account # of the people who got the coins lol

this
774  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Nether guest pass on: June 30, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
system must be 64 bit if that helps
775  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Nether guest pass on: June 30, 2014, 11:59:13 AM
it runs way better then dayz
776  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Nether guest pass on: June 30, 2014, 11:41:57 AM
No problem enjoy it, I have been getting my ass handed to me lol
777  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Nether guest pass on: June 30, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
No one claimed the 2nd one yet but here is a third
https://www.playnether.com/redeem-key.html?key=uOznpcFITiCqeDdCscHWjA:36xW3caFSyuG8CLD_tWIbw
778  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Complete Financial Idiot calling for help. on: June 30, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
Hi everyone!

My name is Caroline and I'm a newer-than-new newbie. I am interested in Bitcoin and over the last week or so I read just about everything there is to read about the topic.

My reaction is: "huh? What?". In other words: I am totally confused about the point of this venture.

I understand that a) it's kind of secure, b) it's money of some description, and c) it's open source. Everything else is goobledegook to me.
Mining? Faucetting? What are those when they are at home?
What if I don't want to mine anything or turn on a faucet but I just want to use Bitcoin as a savings account? Is that possible? Is my money save? Do I get persecuted by angry tax people if I save through Bitcoin? What's a Bitcoin worth in the kind of money that the supermarket will accept? The list of questions marching through my head is endless.

I have read a lot of posts on this forum and I'm still in the dark.

Could someone please explain it all to me, preferably in the type of language a five-year-old can understand? I'm not five years old but when it comes to High Finance, I'm a newborn babe. Huh

Cheers!  Grin

Think of a bitcoin like a dollar but the goverment can not create more, we have a limited number and instead of .01's we have .000001's. Just like a credit card we have transactions, the transactions are sent in blocks that are like batches. The people who lend us computing power to do these transactions are called miners, the miners get paid coins to do these transactions for us. A faucet is nothing more the you looking at ads and getting paid bitcents .00000046 last time I checked.
779  Economy / Auctions / Re: Exchange for sale - Coinnext on: June 30, 2014, 05:55:52 AM
read threw the post he called it off long ago
780  Economy / Securities / Re: ►► [COINSPEED] ►► Advanced Bitcoin Mining Project ► 1st Dividend Paid on: June 29, 2014, 08:08:12 PM
What happens if all shares are not sold?
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