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761  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: hi everyone on: June 21, 2013, 12:26:09 AM
Looks like a bunch of "new accounts" are trying to get their post count raised.  Lol

Oh.and welcome to forum.  Smiley
762  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitInstant>ZipZap>? No coins after 48 hours, no response after 24 hours on: June 20, 2013, 11:46:12 PM


Places to complain about these scammers:

FTC

https://econsumer.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

Google+ community where people who would like to join together to get a lawsuit going can organize.

https://plus.google.com/communities/112177264311909940483

BBB

http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/payment-processing-service/bitinstant-llc-in-brooklyn-ny-139331

Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1bzo49/do_not_use_bitinstant/

RipOffReport.com

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/bitinstant.aspx

NY Small Claims

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dca/html/publications/publications_small_claims.shtml

763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Help out by putting scammers on ignore - it shows others they are scammers! on: June 20, 2013, 10:24:08 PM
Already doing...  Smiley
764  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 09:56:54 PM
You have basically what I have for my main machine.  I have a 1055t overclocked ( no water cooling....lol) with ssd as boot drive, and 8gb. My main minning rig is using semperon on a ASROCK|970 EXTREME4 AM3+ 970 R. And a 1000 gold 80 plus power supply.
765  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 09:45:01 PM
Damn...I am running my 7950s (650khs) at:

1120 core
1550 memory
15% powertune
19 intensity
16334 threads.


Also got a 6870 cranked up to 415khs. (Special 6870 card...5870 rebranded)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200060.0


Looks like I am burning some juice...  Smiley

I might try to under clock/volt to see what type of savings I can get.  You guys have yours really dialed in for power savings!  
766  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
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i run 3 cards on a 750w psu ( 700-725w  at the wall )


That's easy...some cards only pull 15watts!

The poster I was referring to was running 3 7950s (underclocked).

If he was running these under load (scrypt mining/over clocked) he would not be able to run them with a 850psu.  Additionally he would be burning a lot of wasted power because of the efficiency drop.

sorry i ment to say i have 3 7950s runing at 630kh each

edit 1050 core 1250 ram 1.050v core 55% fan


Oh, ok.  That's quite good.

But you still would be at (or near %) capacity of psu which kills your power efficiency.  You must also be running other low draw hardware (like ssd/lower mem/ semperon/Ect).  Like I said it depends on a ton of factors.  And every online calculator I have seen would recommend a larger psu for those 3 cards.


Edit...re-read your post...you are at about 97% of capacity.
767  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
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i run 3 cards on a 750w psu ( 700-725w  at the wall )


That's easy...some cards only pull 15watts!

The poster I was referring to was running 3 7950s (underclocked).

If he was running these under load (scrypt mining/over clocked) he would not be able to run them with a 850psu.  Additionally he would be burning a lot of wasted power because of the efficiency drop.
768  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 09:00:48 PM
Hmmm... so why was 630W not enough for 2 cards?  

I guess that's why I am confused.  But I hope you are all right because i would love to be able to get another card running and not have to mess with the PSU again Smiley

There are so many factors it's really hard to say why that setup didn't work out. It's possible that the 12V rail(s) on the 630W were simply not up to the task (PSU wattage does not tell the whole tale). Antec likes to put multiple +12V rails on their PSUs. Each rail has its own OCP (over current protection) and sometimes on the lower wattage PSUs (650 and under) a single rail simply won't provide enough amperage for mining without tripping. This or any number of other things could have been causing your issue.

I looked into the Antec 850 that you have and it seems decent. It has four +12V rails which are distributed a little oddly but I doubt will cause you problems. According to this review: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-TruePower-Quattro-850-W-Power-Supply-Review/555 the OCP for each +12V rail doesn't trigger until 32A (the official rating says 18A). If you decide to try three cards, I'd certainly recommend that you undervolt them if possible to reduce the total load on the PSU and also save on your power bills. The stock voltage setting for cards is usually wastefully high and can safely be backed down a bit to lower temperatures and increase efficiency. It's usually not a good idea to run your PSU at 90%+ of its rated capacity as it greatly reduces the expected lifetime of the PSU. Efficiency and voltage regulation capabilities also drop off sharply around this point.

Anyway, I really do believe that your Antec 850 will be enough still, especially if you can undervolt your cards. Also, you never mentioned what you're mining. SHA256 (Bitcoin) mining uses less power than scrypt (Litecoin) mining.

I'm currently running 3 7950s on an 850W PSU (XFX PRO850W) without issue. I did undervolt my cards quite a bit though. At the stock voltages of 1.2V on these Sapphire cards, I was easily running at 90%+ of my PSU's capacity mining Litecoin (~900W measured at the wall). By undervolting the cards significantly and lowering the memory clockspeeds, I was able to get the total system power usage down to 620W at the wall.

Current setup:
3x 7950s
570Kh/s each, 1,710Kh/s total (scrypt)
.985V core
955Mhz core
800Mhz memory
620 watts, measured at wall (via Kill-A-Watt)

My hash rate is a bit lower than the numbers often bandied about but since my power costs are fairly high, I've realized that efficiency is more important. My cards will run up to 650Kh/s but the extra power used to get there isn't worth it anyway.

With a bit of tweaking, I think that you can make your setup work out as well. As long as you can lower voltages, your 850W will be more than enough. Good luck! Cheesy



Nice post Xanthe,

I am surprised even with underclocking your 3 7950s you can get by with only a 850psu.  These cards supposedly draw up to 300w under full load (depending on what coin you mine).  Then trying to power other peripherals make it seem like your power supply would be running at 100% capacity(or more).  Even simple calculators would recommend at least at 1000 for those three cards.

http://support.asus.com/powersupply.aspx


Also, When you draw at such a high percentage of the rated capacity you loose power efficiency.  Supposedly running at around 50-70% gives you the best power efficiency.  Above those numbers you are burning more electricity in regards to heat.  Even using a high efficient power supply..like a 80plus gold.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus


Anyhow,  seems like you have yours dialed in to give you results and performance you are looking for!

769  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: PSU question: Is 850W enough for 3 cards?? on: June 19, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
First off it depends on what other hardware (CPU/motherboard/hard drive/etc) you are running.  Regarding the cards, look at this chart to see their power consumption:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

You will likely have a hard time running 3 cards stable but it does depend on what cards and what other hardware you are powering.
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stablecoin, heavily premined, 1.2+ million coins premined!! on: June 19, 2013, 01:38:16 AM
Welcome Krusin to the forum.

EDIT --resolved offline with Krusin--
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stablecoin, heavily premined, 1.2+ million coins premined!! on: June 18, 2013, 11:20:57 PM
It's just incredible these shitty coins  Shocked
The only think I can think is going on here is, the gld trolls are actually against gld coins and have created these alteregos to kill gld coin by being crazy/retarded.
Destroy gld coin by association.
Discuss, because we all know that number 69 and the other twit will bump this thread for no reason anyways.


I am really enjoying the new "activity" rating system that was deployed today.  it really shows you when a person has just been online for a short amount of time.  Makes you wonder if this account was just activated to go troll other threads.  Possibly a duplicate account from another forum member?  


Welcome to the forum Krusin......
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happened to BitBar (BTB) on: June 18, 2013, 07:00:02 PM
You missed one possibility:

People realized it's shit.


+1

Please add to the poll so we can vote.
773  Other / Off-topic / Re: petiton to ban koolio on: June 17, 2013, 05:51:14 AM
I petition we lock or close this thread.   Who cares how someone was treated somewhere else.  Get over it.  Read the post from Saltyspitoon and move on......
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 17, 2013, 04:21:25 AM
 
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Let's try this again.

I'm still buying ARG if you are selling.


So lame....
775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 17, 2013, 04:01:06 AM
Now it's quiet here, isn't that great Grin


Pretty lame bump. 


Did I mention I'm still buying up ARG.  Post your offer here or PM me.


-tb-

Extremely lame.....
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox login disabled.... new site coming.... Twitter mentions LTC & other coins. on: June 16, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
Welcome to the "People Who Got Banned On BTC-e" forum.

Yea, this thread took a turn.  No longer on topic.
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox login disabled.... new site coming.... Twitter mentions LTC & other coins. on: June 16, 2013, 09:29:46 PM
From MtGox Twitter


@CryptoRally Hello,
There seems to be an issue with the login and we are working on it. We apologize for the inconvenience caused and ...


No mention of LTC.  False alarm.
778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 16, 2013, 08:24:00 PM
lol
you make no sense to me

Probably because English is not your native language.

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Im out of here

Bye!

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just want to point out of thing, this is a free market


For you to scam?  Free for me to warn others of your intentions then.
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 16, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
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mods posted newbie/brahha must read threads at first page


What?  Sorry, but Your English is difficult to understand. 

read with your eyes
?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199130.0


So you feel it is the victims fault if they participate with this garbage?  Buyer is at fault if they get scammed by you thieves?  Oh please,  take your worthless con-artist scheme and GTFO.  Your just upset you are getting called on the carpet by number37.
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 16, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
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mods posted newbie/brahha must read threads at first page


What?  Sorry, but Your English is difficult to understand. 
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