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781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is "money laundering" really that big of a deal? on: June 02, 2013, 12:48:31 AM
They will attack you wherever you have no means of self-defense.

So we need an anonymous, P2P trading platform, even just as a last resort. I disagree with the narrative in this community that we shouldn't expect to beat government to it, we can cooperate with them as long as it's reasonable and out of our self-interest, but not outright capitulation.
782  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bcrypt on: June 01, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
Bcrypt is not asymmetric.
783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This sums it up well. on: June 01, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
There is no problem in capitalism. There is a problem with governments interfering with capitalism. These governments just need to get lost!
capitalism is a problem because if you run it forever in a test ground then you will end up with one person holding everything while the rest holds nothing. Because rich gets richer faster the richer he is. This is why people are trying to take somehow from the rich and give to poor so they have slight chance to catch up.

How can someone so stupid ending up with everyone's money...
because he buys everything up like factories, houses etc? and earns more and more money?

What use is his money without an economy? Plz, they are not that dumb, and that's why the trade of investment has existed since time immemorial.
784  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple or Bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 11:01:23 AM
It appears that as prices for Ripples rise (they are currently valued higher than Bitcoin's market cap), OpenCoin will reduce the rate of distribution instead of sticking to a plan. Back when they first began handing out in this forum, they sent 50k XRP. They reduced this slowly, and now they are giving out 1k XRP. So, I believe they think that being valued over Bitcoin market cap is a fair price, or that they think they must maintain it to continue generating profits selling their coins.

Because OpenCoin has no plans in monetary policy and likely spontaneously changes their plans based on where the price is and where they would like it to go, it is probably prone to bubbles, even more so than Bitcoin, where the block chain relentlessly distributes according to an algorithm, no matter what.

They set themselves up between a rock and a hard place, if they want to maintain the price, at this rate of distirbution it will take more than half a century to inject the 50 billion XRPs they promised into the market, if they go quicker..... Roll Eyes
785  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This sums it up well. on: June 01, 2013, 10:38:03 AM
There is no problem in capitalism. There is a problem with governments interfering with capitalism. These governments just need to get lost!
capitalism is a problem because if you run it forever in a test ground then you will end up with one person holding everything while the rest holds nothing. Because rich gets richer faster the richer he is. This is why people are trying to take somehow from the rich and give to poor so they have slight chance to catch up.

How can someone so stupid ending up with everyone's money...
786  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
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In the United States, where Walmart began, we employ more than 1.4 million people in Supercenters, Walmart Discount Stores, Neighborhood Markets, Walmart Express Stores and Sam's Clubs.

OK, it turns out, if the $6 pay raise is implemented and vacations are also paid, Walmart will be immediately in red.
Well, to be fair, not all of them are minimum wage employees. But I can guarantee they all will be (probably even the store managers) after a minimum wage hike to $12/hr.

I don't think so, I think many of them will be on welfare immediately afterwards. Wink

Otherwise I agree.
787  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 07:44:01 AM


 Job creators close their businesses because they want to, and don't be silly, they are not so stupid as to not be able to figure out someone is manipulating the market to shake their money out of their pockets.

1. I can't believe you are stupid enough to think wal mart and mcdonalds would close because of a 6 dollar wage increase

2. It's not manipulating the market to get money out of their pockets, it's called paying the national debt.

1. Simple math: Wal-mart has more than 2.2 million employees around the world,

I'll stop you right there.

We are talking about Americans, not sweat shop babies. The stuff over there is wrong, but it's not the issue.

Please take 2 Billion, multiply it by the number of Wal Mart CEOs and divide it into MINIMUM WAGE AMERICAN employees.

I'm sure each person will make at least an extra $200 a month (enough to get 40 hours a week workers off welfare)

So I take it to mean that you didn't read on, the 2.2 million number is irrelavant.

And yes, it's not like Wal-mart is that big outta here..

EDIT: check it here http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/our-stores/united-states-stores

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In the United States, where Walmart began, we employ more than 1.4 million people in Supercenters, Walmart Discount Stores, Neighborhood Markets, Walmart Express Stores and Sam's Clubs.

OK, it turns out, if the $6 pay raise is implemented and vacations are also paid, Walmart will be immediately in red.
788  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 07:32:05 AM


 Job creators close their businesses because they want to, and don't be silly, they are not so stupid as to not be able to figure out someone is manipulating the market to shake their money out of their pockets.

1. I can't believe you are stupid enough to think wal mart and mcdonalds would close because of a 6 dollar wage increase

2. It's not manipulating the market to get money out of their pockets, it's called paying the national debt.

1. Simple math: Wal-mart has more than 2.2 million employees around the world, let's say they have 1 million of them in the U.S, and they work 220 days a year, now $6/hour rise for everyone here=$6*8*220*1,000,000=about 10.5 billion dollars, not what I would call pocket money.(Oh, I forgot! their vacations should be paid as well!)

And guess what, there are other ways out than closing my business, I can just fire a large percentage of my employees, close down some shops, get them to live on welfare, not to say a lot of sales clerks can be replaced by checkout machines already, if it costs me more to keep a clerk then to maintain one such machine....and yeah, I can ask poor students to part-time for me as well.

2. Hmmm...so somehow I need to pay the debt that is not created by me. And manipulation is about the means, not the goal, you can't justify the means with the end.
789  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 07:10:55 AM


Job creators can just stop running their businesses, and everybody have no job, they are not masochists.

Paying your workers fair (above welfare) wages, is not the same as enjoying pain. You're retarded.

You are speaking again as if you know better than everybody else about their own businesses,

No, I am speaking as if I can READ.
I have seen how much the people at the top of the companies I listed make, and I know how they could correct the economy. If me sharing that bothers you, I am very sorry.

OK, let's suppose your plan is fair, really fair, it still matters nothing. Job creators close their businesses because they want to, and don't be silly, they are not so stupid as to not be able to figure out someone is manipulating the market to shake their money out of their pockets.

And for every step of your plan to work, you will have to convince this tricky organ called legislature(yeah as stipulated by the sacred U.S Constitution), many of whose members are paid by the job creators to sit there anyway, and had the government really succeeded in doing everything you listed, it probably would have became such a monster, that it would already be too late for you to regret.
790  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 07:00:42 AM


Job creators can just stop running their businesses, and everybody have no job, they are not masochists.

Paying your workers fair (above welfare) wages, is not the same as enjoying pain. You're retarded.

You are speaking again as if you know better than everybody else about their own businesses, while you don't have data or anything to back your idea up. No wonder you get the delusion that if they don't agree with you, they're either retarded or too greedy. Who knows, maybe egotistic people are just better job creators, and you will be the one that changes everything.
791  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:53:13 AM
IT'S NOT THAT HARD

Ex of how the economy gets fixed:

Minimum wage skyrockets, bigger than it ever did during bushes administration (ex: $12-15)
Job creators are forced to open their banks, sell stocks, etc (stop hording)
Stop. Right there. That's the flaw. You assume that job creators are actually hoarding their profits. That's a bad assumption.

NO IT'S NOT. I know for a FACT the Waltons make multi-BILLIONS a year, no one can spend that much, there is nothing to do but invest and hoard it.
So... you take an extreme example (and their income is not Wal-mart's, you're likely grossly overstating their actual income), and extrapolate that down to the McDonald's on the corner. Go in there, and ask to speak with the manager. Ask him what a $12 minimum wage would do to that store. Do the same at the convenience store on the way home. Internalize the fear you see in their eyes when you say "$12 minimum wage."

I JUST told you what it would do. Then I told you what happens next to fix it. PLEASE READ, I don't know how many times I need to say that.
No, chief. I just told YOU what it would do.

REALLY? vvThisvv quote is of YOU?
Congrats on your idea for Bitcoin town too Smiley
IT'S NOT THAT HARD

Ex of how the economy gets fixed:

Minimum wage skyrockets, bigger than it ever did during bushes administration (ex: $12-15)
Job creators are forced to open their banks, sell stocks, etc (stop hording)
The market flows, but inflation strikes... Job creators want more money now that they have to pay more
BUT THEN the government taxes more (not enough to counter the minimum wage increase), but enough to start to put a dent in the national debt
Job creators freak out and start hoarding again
Inflation eventually stops, and the dollar stabilizes. Due to the hoarding.

Job creators can just stop running their businesses, and everybody have no job, they are not masochists.
792  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:27:18 AM

Wow, it's even more amazing, you not only know how to better spend my money, you also know better than me what's good education for us!

I don't think there is one clause in the U.S Constitution that gives you this kind of confidence this time?

There is no clause, it's a fact.
 
How the fuck do you think public school works?

How the f**k do you think education before public school works?


That doesn't matter, I told you what your taxes go to, and you told me to quote the constitution. Whether you like it or not, that's where they go. And if you had it, that's not what you would spend it on.

Again how do you know? Because 10 guys before me didn't? You know what, they have a fancy word for that kind of attitude-"discrimination". Roll Eyes Not to say that I already showed you in the previous post that a lot of people were willing to spend money exactly where you said they wouldn't.
793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:22:38 AM

Wow, it's even more amazing, you not only know how to better spend my money, you also know better than me what's good education for us!

I don't think there is one clause in the U.S Constitution that gives you this kind of confidence this time?

There is no clause, it's a fact.
 
How the fuck do you think public school works?

How the f**k do you think education before public school works?

There used to be a time, when the public school system was not that a Holy Grail in the U.S, all people in a small town would get together, in a meeting of some sort, to contribute their own money voluntarily to build a school and employ teachers, what the town government did, was to call the meeting and elaborate its plan about the school, and ask everyone's opinions about it, for all the Americans I have known, people from that era actually are better off in many subjects than Amercian students today....
794  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:13:37 AM


"General welfare" can have 1000 interpretations.

I am not even talking about this, I meant I would pay the tax, but since I am forced to help, I will just do the bare minimum that I was told to, and stop giving a damn.


You can interpret it 1,000 ways, but the basic easiest one is "Everyone gets to be fairly well off". Not RICH, but ok.

I have suggested this to Myrkul, if you don't like it START A CHARITY and you can help people so they never even need welfare.
And you can get tax breaks.

Because the government has already forcibly taken away the money that I was supposed to use to do good?

Yeah, to educate your children and yourself. Sorry for that.

Wow, it's even more amazing, you not only know how to better spend my money, you also know better than me what's good education for us!

I don't think there is one clause in the U.S Constitution that gives you this kind of confidence this time?
795  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:11:00 AM


"General welfare" can have 1000 interpretations.

I am not even talking about this, I meant I would pay the tax, but since I am forced to help, I will just do the bare minimum that I was told to, and stop giving a damn.


You can interpret it 1,000 ways, but the basic easiest one is "Everyone gets to be fairly well off". Not RICH, but ok.

I have suggested this to Myrkul, if you don't like it START A CHARITY and you can help people so they never even need welfare.
And you can get tax breaks.

Because the government has already forcibly taken away the money that I was supposed to use to do good? Yeah I can start charities, but if I  run an enterprise how can I get more money to support the charities!
796  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 06:05:52 AM


What gives you, or anyone else concerned the confidence that you know how to use my money better than myself?

The constitution does. The constitution says that they have the right to PROMOTE welfare, which means they have the right to show you where to put your money.

"General welfare" can have 1000 interpretations.

I am not even talking about this, I meant I would pay the tax, but since I am forced to help, I will just do the bare minimum that I was told to, and stop giving a damn, so you shouldn't complain why job creators are not fixing the economy.
797  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 05:59:03 AM
I think minimum wage should go up.
So you think there should be more unemployment, huh?
No, the people with the money should pay themselves less.
You think like a republican.
No, I think like a libertarian

No, that's why I made the effort to specify. YOU think like a REPUBLICAN.

Libertarians are about protecting freedom and property.
Republicans are about cutting taxes and getting money to the job creators.
Do job creators not deserve their freedom and property protected?

They do, but they also need to see that the money they are making is being made by the workers, and the workers deserve more of it.

What gives you, or anyone else concerned the confidence that you know how to use my money better than myself? Maybe if the authorities remove their guns, we can sit down and talk about how can we do something for the poor, I may have a plan, and it may work better than yours. Now that you force me to contribute on your terms, I will just give you the money and stop giving a damn, no matter how big a mess you have produced.
798  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Job Creators Could Fix The Economy (& How Bitcoin can Help) on: June 01, 2013, 05:41:14 AM
Maybe they could, but first stop forcing them to do it by pointing government guns at them.
799  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Should bitcoin move to SHA-3 ? on: June 01, 2013, 05:35:19 AM
SHA3 offers absolutely no advantage. Even if collisions for SHA2 can be found, it still won't affect mining, and address hashing can be improved with quick fixes, rather than implementing a new hashing algorithm. If QC is invented, its influence on SHA2 and SHA3 will be the same.
800  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: MTGOX丢失7000多美元 on: June 01, 2013, 04:39:07 AM
楼主有多久没登录到MT网站上了??关联邮箱是否被黑?

邮箱正常 使用的 关联的是QQ 绑定在手机上的

关联的是QQ邮箱??能不能查看非正常登录?

假如可以的话,看看有没有“114.80.68.23“这个IP地址,作案者似乎没有隐藏自己的IP。

编辑:http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/114.80.68.23 好像是台僵尸机器。

还有你的电脑上有没有木马什么的?有可能是黑客在你登录之后没退出时更改了你的密保设置。
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