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781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: June 29, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
They will not disclose the results it will take the winner/winners to come forward and say they won OR someone will have to file a Freedom of information act. Case closed.
782  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Nether guest pass on: June 29, 2014, 07:58:21 PM
https://www.playnether.com/redeem-key.html?key=dYgkbtVeRlWy6BJECiG4zg:36xW3caFSyuG8CLD_tWIbw


How about thank you this time and who claimed it lol
783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What good things has Obama had since he is elected ? on: June 29, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
The best thing that Obama did siince he was elected is legalization of weed

So let's smoke that weed!
Obama care is pretty good for senior who has not reach the retirement age.

Obama has not legalized weed, he just gave guidance to the DEA.

You are not a senior until retirement age, hence no retirement, senior citizens discounts or other things they get.
784  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 05:08:05 PM
In auctions of material goods, like cars or houses, the USMS contracts a private company to keep custody of the goods and allow inspection by prospective bidders.  Check their pages for prior auctions.
Which is why this was a odd auction to start with.
Does anyone know how the FBI/USMS handles seized "virtual" property, such as shares of US or foreign companies, tickets for big games, or Linden Dollars?  Presumably they followed the same model.

Tickets for big games are given to the Dept Heads Cheesy jk
785  Other / Off-topic / Free Nether guest pass on: June 29, 2014, 03:14:58 PM
https://www.playnether.com/redeem-key.html?key=OVEL_9I8SKaThyikfDrpIg:36xW3caFSyuG8CLD_tWIbw
786  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [IPO] CoinPal - Crypto-Currency Exchange & Profit Switching Mining Pool {NEW} on: June 29, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
He did it so he could get more coin on the 2nd round, he used the first round to buy personal miners. You can check Winterparkers post and follow that, he also I assume used the bitcoins to pay for and promote his fathers business illegally. Anyone who has suffered loss of business due to those fraud reviews can sue his father.
787  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Bidders understand this and will research prior owners, and how they treated and or up kept items. A drug dealer with a 5 million dollar mansion may have had all the walls ripped out by the DEA, might require 1 million in repair. But thats all the fun of the auction game.
In auctions of material goods, like cars or houses, the USMS contracts a private company to keep custody of the goods and allow inspection by prospective bidders.  Check their pages for prior auctions.

Which is why this was a odd auction to start with.
788  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer Nathi Fakudze (incl Pic) on: June 29, 2014, 01:04:06 PM
How do he scam you? BTC doesn't appear to be involved so why are you posting here, is he a member of bitcointalk?

Who cares if he comes in the community it is already known not to trust him.
789  Economy / Securities / Re: Pay Through Shares Prospectus on: June 29, 2014, 12:54:25 PM
Very good project

Explain why it is a very good project.
790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 12:52:06 PM
Only way DOJ will not release information is under exemption 4


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§ 16.8Business information.
(a) In general. Business information obtained by the Department from a submitter will be disclosed under the FOIA only under this section.
(b) Definitions. For purposes of this section:
(1) Business information means commercial or financial information obtained by the Department from a submitter that may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4 of the FOIA.
(2) Submitter means any person or entity from whom the Department obtains business information, directly or indirectly. The term includes corporations; state, local, and tribal governments; and foreign governments.
(c) Designation of business information. A submitter of business information will use good-faith efforts to designate, by appropriate markings, either at the time of submission or at a reasonable time thereafter, any portions of its submission that it considers to be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4. These designations will expire ten years after the date of the submission unless the submitter requests, and provides justification for, a longer designation period.
(d) Notice to submitters. A component shall provide a submitter with prompt written notice of a FOIA request or administrative appeal that seeks its business information wherever required under paragraph (e) of this section, except as provided in paragraph (h) of this section, in order to give the submitter an opportunity to object to disclosure of any specified portion of that information under paragraph (f) of this section. The notice shall either describe the business information requested or include copies of the requested records or record portions containing the information. When notification of a voluminous number of submitters is required, notification may be made by posting or publishing the notice in a place reasonably likely to accomplish it.
(e) Where notice is required. Notice shall be given to a submitter wherever:
(1) The information has been designated in good faith by the submitter as information considered protected from disclosure under Exemption 4; or
(2) The component has reason to believe that the information may be protected from disclosure under Exemption 4.
(f) Opportunity to object to disclosure. A component will allow a submitter a reasonable time to respond to the notice described in paragraph (d) of this section and will specify that time period within the notice. If a submitter has any objection to disclosure, it is required to submit a detailed written statement. The statement must specify all grounds for withholding any portion of the information under any exemption of the FOIA and, in the case of Exemption 4, it must show why the information is a trade secret or commercial or financial information that is privileged or confidential. In the event that a submitter fails to respond to the notice within the time specified in it, the submitter will be considered to have no objection to disclosure of the information. Information provided by the submitter that is not received by the component until after its disclosure decision has been made shall not be considered by the component. Information provided by a submitter under this paragraph may itself be subject to disclosure under the FOIA.
(g) Notice of intent to disclose. A component shall consider a submitter's objections and specific grounds for nondisclosure in deciding whether to disclose business information. Whenever a component decides to disclose business information over the objection of a submitter, the component shall give the submitter written notice, which shall include:
(1) A statement of the reason(s) why each of the submitter's disclosure objections was not sustained;
(2) A description of the business information to be disclosed; and
(3) A specified disclosure date, which shall be a reasonable time subsequent to the notice.
(h) Exceptions to notice requirements. The notice requirements of paragraphs (d) and (g) of this section shall not apply if:
(1) The component determines that the information should not be disclosed;
(2) The information lawfully has been published or has been officially made available to the public;
(3) Disclosure of the information is required by statute (other than the FOIA) or by a regulation issued in accordance with the requirements of Executive Order 12600 (3 CFR, 1988 Comp., p. 235); or
(4) The designation made by the submitter under paragraph (c) of this section appears obviously frivolous—except that, in such a case, the component shall, within a reasonable time prior to a specified disclosure date, give the submitter written notice of any final decision to disclose the information.
(i) Notice of FOIA lawsuit. Whenever a requester files a lawsuit seeking to compel the disclosure of business information, the component shall promptly notify the submitter.
(j) Corresponding notice to requesters. Whenever a component provides a submitter with notice and an opportunity to object to disclosure under paragraph (d) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a component notifies a submitter of its intent to disclose requested information under paragraph (g) of this section, the component shall also notify the requester(s). Whenever a submitter files a lawsuit seeking to prevent the disclosure of business information, the component shall notify the requester(s).
[Order No. 2156-98, 63 FR 29593, June 1, 1998; 63 FR 51401, Sept. 25, 1998]


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Exemption 4
Exemption 4 of the FOIA protects "trade secrets and commercial or financial information obtained from a person [that is] privileged or confidential." (1) This exemption is intended to protect the interests of both the government and submitters of information. Its very existence encourages submitters to voluntarily furnish useful commercial or financial information to the government and it correspondingly provides the government with an assurance that such information will be reliable. The exemption also affords protection to those submitters who are required to furnish commercial or financial information to the government by safeguarding them from the competitive disadvantages that could result from disclosure. (2) The exemption covers two broad categories of information in federal agency records: (1) trade secrets; and (2) information that is (a) commercial or financial, and (b) obtained from a person, and (c) privileged or confidential

They are not going to give you the bank account # of the people who got the coins lol
791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
The problem is the USMS makes no promises on condition and/or warranty. So it might look like a gem from the outside but when you get inside it, could be a hole heap of trouble. Bidders understand this and will research prior owners, and how they treated and or up kept items. A drug dealer with a 5 million dollar mansion may have had all the walls ripped out by the DEA, might require 1 million in repair. But thats all the fun of the auction game.

But bitcoins... maybe because people think they might be tarnished?

Its easy to tell what something sold for at action when its real property, just go to the county GIS system and look at the deeds.


Hmmm so they are saying you can get the info just submit you FOIA request.
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11. What information about the auction process or results might be available through a FOIA
request?
 
Agency records or information which is not covered by one or more of the FOIA’s Exemptions is
subject to disclosure. Such determinations will be made in accordance with
Department of Justice regulations available at
792  Economy / Services / Re: ۩ Background Checks ۩ IPO vetting ۩ Other investigative services ۩ Scammer find on: June 29, 2014, 12:00:41 PM
Bet this guy is pissed your plastering his photo all over the interwebs lol.
793  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
Not long it does not contain classified or information in regards to american security. The only reason they get held up or not given is for those specified reasons. They really have no reason to not give the information up, what reason could they have?
http://www.foia.gov/
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In some circumstances, the agency will be able to respond to the request within the standard time limit established by the FOIA – approximately one month
Think this would qualify. Think the Foia at the DOJ would even ask why they are keeping this hidden from public view.
Thanks. I cannot imagine any excuse for withholding the winning price.  They may perhaps contend that the identity of the winners is private information, but even that seems unlikely.

Yea that is horse shit, if you buy a car, house, rings, or anything else from them it is made public. Why hide this? Waiting for the tin foil hat people to say something to the effect of "the gov is keeping the coins to entrap people".
794  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: June 29, 2014, 11:54:20 AM
Check the state laws about recording people, some state allow it with out consent some do not.
795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 11:47:55 AM
Not long it does not contain classified or information in regards to american security. The only reason they get held up or not given is for those specified reasons. They really have no reason to not give the information up, what reason could they have?


http://www.foia.gov/
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In some circumstances, the agency will be able to respond to the request within the standard time limit established by the FOIA – approximately one month
Think this would qualify. Think the Foia at the DOJ would even ask why they are keeping this hidden from public view.
796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshall's Bitcoin Auction Results on: June 29, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
I hope we'll be able to see the results on Monday.

Probably it will be confidential, at least for a while until it's leaked. I'm really curious about the final price.


It won't be confidential. It is a matter of public record as it is with any asset auction by the DOJ.

Thank you I tried to tell people this in another thread, they do not understand even if the DOJ did try to hide it. We have this thing called the freedom of information act, might take a couple months but we would find out.
797  Economy / Securities / Re: ⋆⋆⋆⋆฿itcoin฿udz⋆⋆⋆⋆ Emerging Market IPO on: June 29, 2014, 11:16:58 AM
Have been approached by OP for verification of identity. He will be sending me a picture of his I.D. one of him holding his I.D. and the picture of his grow op permission slip lol? Not sure what they are called.

Identity Verified, everything looks good. The only thing that came up was a misdemeanor offense for weed 9 years ago in a different state. The OP told me about this and did not try to hide it. The grow op license check out with the municipality, and is able to have 100 plants the limit can be raised for each patient he accepts. He also showed me his wife's caregiver status which allows them to add another 100 plants if they wished to.

This is just a Identity Verification and license check that is all.

Thank you for you business, it was a pleasure. Good luck on your security.
798  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TimeToBit - Bitcoin Cloud Mining Platform - Free Mining Plan Giveaways ! on: June 29, 2014, 12:43:35 AM
The 50 GH/s Mining plan was set quickly after PMing my email to OP, so thank you very much.

Maybe one improvement: ability to set payouts after x days or after accumulated x BTC. Currently only daily payments possible

Yes very fast set up, extremely easy to use. Will update as I go on.
799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are the fucking silk road coins sold ? on: June 28, 2014, 09:29:35 PM
Did they say they would not release the winning bidders name? That is not like the USA Gov seeings how all it takes is a freedom of information petition then they will tell you.
800  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: TimeToBit - Bitcoin Cloud Mining Platform - Free Mining Plan Giveaways ! on: June 28, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
SCORE! first time I ever one anything lol
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