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81  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 11, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Many gamblers know that they can't win money from gambling but they keep on gamble again and again but not with a small amount. Some people even borrow money from others to gamble. That means they never learn from their past gambling mistakes.

Are you doing this kind of gambling mistake?
It's hard to answer that because everyone have every own reason, why they still gamble despite having lost a lot of money. perhaps, I am one of those people who still gamble despite having lost a lot of money maybe I can not learn from mistakes but i want to ask, can you against your desire?
82  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 11, 2017, 11:22:33 AM
Experienced people in gambling has a huge advantage because they already know how the game works, but it wont say that they will be more advantage to win in gambling because gambling is not based on the experience it is based on the luck of the people. Those people who can handle their greediness they can make good profit and that is always matter in gambling avoiding greediness can lead you in winning.
that is pretty confusing to be honest to look at your opinion , it sounds like you say experience have a big role in gambling on how you to play , but has nothing to do with the outcome because of gambling uncertainty will always about luck.

so the point here are experience could help you to gamble but not to win it for sure

Experience is the guide to gambling and wouldn't make you commit certain fundamental mistakes but it wont lead you all the way into winning as there is some element of risk to bear, but in sports betting experienced and your knowledge on the game you play can give you a convincing edge .
it is just give you more winning chance , but as i said doesn't mean guarantee you to win anything .

and sometimes make you become more confident too , experience should not become your excuse to keep get the winning , but it is more to about have the luck. not necessary to have experience , just do it whenever you want and see the outcome.
I do not agree because experience is also important to keep you in certain things like you know when to stop because if you prefer luck then you can't  stop even though you have won, then your goal gamble for what?
do you think you can win as much as possible and luck will not disappear after coming to you?
83  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: International Games Prediction Thread on: October 11, 2017, 11:16:42 AM
While the USA Women nationalization team is soaring and winning medals, their male counterpart can't even qualify for the World Cup and that's very disgracing. They need to find a very good manager for the team and overhaul the whole team as a whole and start everything anew before the next major tournament.
Indeed in the history the USA Women nationalization team more achievers than their male nationalization team, maybe because the soccer game is not too popular at there. I see them more enthusiastic on basketball and baseball games.
84  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: October 11, 2017, 11:10:24 AM
Last night we all witness a miracle. Leo Messi answering cirticizm after their match with Peru. He replied with a stunning hattrick leading Argentina directly to the world cup finals. No other player can do that. He litterly can carry a whole team on his own. That's why he is the best!
Argentina is very fortunate because brasil can win against chile if Brazil let out the match then there is no hope for argentina to qualify for the world cup. no one can be proud of the current argentina, sorry to said it.
85  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcion can crash Because segwit2 !!! on: October 10, 2017, 12:18:25 PM
People buy like fools .
segwit2 near and bitcoin can crash to 800 usd at any time

Strange people

I feel bitcoin will fall strongly this time



Yeah Yeah everyone can said anything they want, but sorry. i don't think bitcoin price would back to below $1000 even though after segwit2x, there is any possibility the price would down. just let you know, it's all still our speculation, anything can happen like me have a prediction if the price would rise because still many great news that can make the price rise.
86  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitmain order tracking problem. Help plase? on: October 10, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
For real why don't you ask Bitmain? I don't think that they gonna use some doubtful courier. Or it was your choice?


they were in thanksgiving for 10 days also i sent 7 support mail but there is no any return my side. They send goods via UPS express, normally express cargo takes 3-4 days.
Looking into your words, I want to ask if there has been a notice from bitmain that they have sent your order? if not, there is no possibility for that maybe your order is still in the preparation stage.

they were in thanksgiving for 10 days also i sent 7 support mail but there is no any return my side.

Have you tried the bitmain phone number?

here is the number +1-844-248-6246

Bitmain Warranty
3700 Quebec Street
Unit 100-239
Denver, Colorado 80207
USA

maybe if you have a relative or friend who lives where bitmain operates you could ask that relative or friend to go complain on your behalf

You can also try contacting them by this means


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766448.0
Great information.
hey OP, you should try to contact that given by Slow death. it seems that's just your worries, because bitmain has a warranty for every order.
87  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What actually is Provably Fairness?! on: October 10, 2017, 12:06:01 PM
with this article i got some interest now with provably fair unlike before that i just entrust my game with the site host and wait for my luck to hit me
up, many thanks for the informative topic which tackle the very basic of our gambling activity, knowing the real factors of fairness should be the first
that we look upon the house.
Yeah nothing we can do than only trust host if they are fair and for the rest we only hope on the luck because it is very difficult to prove it. we should get rid of suspicion if we have a desire to bet on a particular game.

You hear the word "Provably fairness" a lot thrown around, but it's not really understood fully by everyone.

This article I found on the crypto gambling foundation by Kristof is really good at explaining it. I recommend anyone read it, even if you think you know!

https://cryptogambling.org/provably-fair/

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Before we may begin to understand what makes a casino provably fair, we need to study how the basis of online gambling works. Simply put, players bet on the outcome of randomly generated
numbers.

Formerly, these random numbers were generated solely by the host of a game, leaving complete control in the hands of operators. Participants had to trust the host not generating results in favor of anyone. Casinos operating on these merits caused conflict of interest for those seeking a fair gambling experience.

Due to lack of transparency, the essence of provably fair games was born. Corresponding concepts provide a way for both the operators and players to contribute to randomization, which in turn removes any possibility of deceit or cheating.

The foundation of fair gaming algorithms were laid by pseudorandom number generators, utilizing seeds which determine the outcome of wagers.

A seed shall be equally influenced by players and hosts, meaning that the result of each bet at a provably fair casino is a team effort. The house is no longer in complete control of randomization.

So, wouldn’t this mean that players are able to manipulate results in their own favor?

Commitment schemes to the rescue!


To prevent malicious behavior, hosts mustn’t show us their actual seed at first. Instead, they present a commitment of their own seed to us. Similarly to envelopes, commitments seal and conceal messages contained by them. They cannot be altered or revealed without consent from the sender. For example, hosts may commit a seed by using a one-way hash function or public key cryptography.

Hosts shall provide transparency and proof of authenticity by revealing their actual seeds at the end of each game. Anyone in possession of a host’s commitment may verify the immutability of the corresponding seed.

Bets shall be reproducible once the host seed gets revealed. Players can constantly audit the behavior of hosts by comparing random results calculated by a host and them.
Proving that the outcome of a wager is computed fairly and transparently should be performed by anyone at any time. We strongly believe in widespread use of provably fair algorithms throughout the gaming industry.
OP: thanks this is a great article but we need more specific information to know if they are really fair.
88  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you care? on: October 10, 2017, 11:55:52 AM
We cannot blame the casino, Casino is made so that people can have fun while risking their money trying to win. Not all gamblers are losing in Casino some of them are winning why? because they know when to call stop unlike most of the gamblers they continue to play even if they are winning until they lose and after that they will call the casino a scam. 
Casinos are not made for the sake of people. It is a business and the owners only want to earn money this business demands entertaining its customers. That is why casinos offer a lot of joyful games and ladies. This way they can keep the players for long. The gamblers that win are very few and the winnings are not very huge ones always but the only way to have a profit is to not gamble again.
Casinos are indeed a business, it was developed to cater to people that itch to gamble. It nevertheless attract a lof of people that think they can profit from casinos games and they would always be a winner, thinking that casinos are just some kind of magic ATM that when they deposit money afterwards they will pull out thousands of dollars out of it.
Not correct at all,  it's just the wrong thinking, in fact the casino is created for people who are looking for fun. you do not believe ??
as an example: we think that casinos deliberately give a limit of bets to maintain balance but we always say that no gambler can win, well, if the casino knows about this. why they give maximum limit of bets if they know will win.
89  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: October 10, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
I was accumulating BTC so that I can buy the new Xbox one S which is releasing tomorrow in our country.  I successfully accumulated enough BTC in 2 months to buy it and I already pre-booked it, now I am gonna save btc to buy games.  


Saving means your earning BTC by doing work? or you're saving BTC from gambling winnings?

If you're saving from your earning then it can be possible but it may take some time to accumulate these coins. But if your planning to save money from gambling winning then you're taking high risk and you may lose even whatever you saved so far in these games.
Yeah agree, there is a possibility of losing whatever you save because automatically what inside your mind is you still win so sometimes when you lose then you more dare to bet big. there's actually a way to get around this like you stopped playing for a moment to get rid of the idea that you've won the gamble and after it's gone then you must to think if you have to win because you have not gambled in some time.
90  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 10, 2017, 11:36:17 AM
Manchester United are going to be in a lot of trouble when they face Liverpool this weekend, there are reports of many of their players being injured due to the World Cup qualifiers, Fellaini and even Lukaku have taken a knock during a training regimen. These injuries limits Jose Mourinho midfield options to just Matic and Herrera and am sure they are going to deliver.
No manchester will not on trouble, I'm sure mourinho will not use players who have physical power because mourinho knows liverpool has a lot of players who have the speed so there is a possibility mourinho just play romelu lukaku alone and the rest is a player who can play the ball with old like lion, blind, mhikitaryan, rashford , herera.
91  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: October 10, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
tonight, all football fans are waiting for the Latin American qualifying match, I am sure that a lot of people across the world want to see the that Argentina will qualify for the Russia 2018 world cup. without Argentina and Messi it will be incomplete. so I also want Argentina should qualify directly.

Argentina coach is idiot,Argentina didnt score last goal  400 min and he is keeping Dybala on the bench,and Higuain is not even on the bench,I ve been reading that Brasil fans were asking Brasil lost his last game to make Argentina more problems
Today lucky 1=0 for Italy,but thay can have problems in barage games,looks like Italy striking ability is very poor

I have to agree with this, the coach do not know how to manage his team to get a win in crucial time or even to get some goals. With too many big names on their squad but unable to score goal in 400 minutes is absolutely disgusting. The power of Messi is not applicable in Argentina, the coach should realize that. I'm sure the coach will be sacked out as soon as the qualifier ends.
I think argentina is dependent on messi and when messi does not play well or when the messi does not get a tight guard from the opponent then what is applied by the coach be disorderly. They should not be too dependent on messi because they have a lot of quality players.
92  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if bitcoin will be made as the official cryptocurrency? on: October 09, 2017, 01:03:18 PM
What if bitcoin will be made as the official cryptocurrency,  promoted and regulated by the government,  what will be the effect to other cryptocurrencies?  Is there a chance that others will be banned? How do you if will affect the bitcoin price? Will it be a negative impact on bitcoin itself?
Bitoin and altcoin it's already be the official cryptocurrency. Well, that's where the problem is still faced by some crypto currency users because until now there are still few governments that legalize crypto currency but even though the government has legalized crypto currency, I'm sure the government only can attract taxes because until whenever they will never can regulated cryptocurrency.
93  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 09, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
Because our brains are already overshadowed by big dreams that gambling present us so we go back to gamble. Lose or win just the same, we will keep coming back and back, until finally we realize that much has been lost yawning because of gambling.

We are brainwashed, is this what are you trying to say? Probably yes, because we keep on thinking that the big wins from other gamblers can possible happen to us. And that's why everyone of us are keep on gambling and it is making us an addicted gambler. This is not new, gambling is very addicting just like the usual type of addiction from other things and I don't want to mention any of them, you all know it.

It is the temptation of the money gambling offers. A study about addiction have concluded that gambling addiction is far worse than being a druggy

The temptation of money isn't with gambling only but I didn't knew it that gambling offers far worse addiction the drugs. Thanks for this information as I thought that addiction in drugs is more severe and worse, do you have any link on that study? Gambling is just really addicting the way it is and it's naturally making each and everyone of us addicted and wants us to gamble most of the time.

That's correct, the temptation of trying to make more money and especially trying to recover what has been lost gets people nose deep into gambling and they become addicted.
I'm totally agree with you. I have such example in my family and that's just terrible how far people may go with the wish to return everything that has been lost already.
The most sad think that there is not a chance to escape this and hard forms of gambling addiction, unfortunately, uncover itself when it's too late.

You did it in your family? There is a chance to escape this addiction and you just need to remember that gambling is not forever. If you want to have a decent life and not in gambling, think on how many times you fall in gambling addiction and think if you want to stay living in that miserable life of failure, only if you are keep on failing in gambling because some addicted gamblers are having good fortune.
I think he has found a good way even though there is no guarantee of it but close to the family can make us have other activities and friends to talk for forget us from something, you must have heard that to get rid of old habits then we must find new habits . Well, maybe this way can be used to eliminate the addiction to gambling.
94  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots Strategies? on: October 09, 2017, 12:28:15 PM
No, slot is all depend on luck, there are nothing to do except, press the button and wait for the result, no strategy that can be apply to this game, but this game is quite popular for elder people, because it is so easy to play

It is system automated line to play the game. We cannot say you will find hundred percent win in the slot. I would also say that it is purely based on luck only.
I have played once in bitkong site in slot game. I was addictive and played with the investment after my faucet amount emptied in the gsming wallet. Please ignore gambling to save your money.
So you think on another game you can find a hundred percent win, I think is not. as i know in gambling there are only two options that lose or win and all based on luck, it means if you are lucky then you can win. actually people who like to play slot games know only luck that can make them win in gambling therefore they choose games that are easy to play.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: October 09, 2017, 12:22:24 PM
Milan will not go very far in UEL with their performance. They win with a very luck goal in 95 minute against a team from Croatia I liga like Rijeka. There are stronger England team playing there and performance from Balkan and Eastern Europe has grown a lot. I think Milan will have a tough time fighting in the Europa league. Surely they will pass group stage but after that I am not very sure if they will have the big success many people wait from them here in Italy.

Milan will surely pass the group stage easily. The real challenge they will encounter is in the next phase. If we looked at their overall performance, same as your opinion, I doubt Milan will be able to do much in Europa League this season.
Perhaps, at this time their performance is still not stable, sometimes they play very bad but seeing the results they get on european league. I think they can be up to the quarter-finals or semi-finals.
96  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 09, 2017, 12:17:40 PM
Honestly, i don't understand why everton become a weak that i know they buy many player for prepare to face this season even though they lose romelu lukaku but they only lost 1 player.
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: October 08, 2017, 04:24:39 PM
I think you should buy because as long as bitcoin increases it's value every year it is better to buy than to sell bitcoin but you need to do is to wait.
Agree, I'm optimistic the price will soon reach $ 5000, the user waits for what will happen after 25 october, if all is not a problem like 1 August then the price will skyrocket and buy is better for now.

Everyone here is optimistic that the price of bitcoin will be reaching the line of $5,000 very soon or if not before this year ends. I have no more doubts about bitcoin and I'm just subjecting those speculations that are unreal and very exaggerated. And you should buy if you have budget for it but if not then just hold the bitcoins that you have. I don't care about those forks and other events that are about to come, we are many believers that bitcoin will increase either those forks will come.

If people believe that the price of bitcoins will hit $5k at the end of the year then they can afford to buy it even at the current price as they will surely make profits when price reach to that level as I don't think that price will crash now as it has started to move upwards again slowly and steadily and we can expect much higher price in next couple of days or weeks.
I think buying bitcoin when the prices are rising is not a smart choice even though we're sure bitcoin prices will reach $ 5000 by the end of the year but that's just a prediction, I mean all possibilities can still be occur may bitcoin prices will fall before reaching $ 5000 or close to $ 5000. we should think carefully before made a decision.
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to 7000 HOT OCTOBER on: October 08, 2017, 04:06:04 PM
For the achievement of $7000 /BTC in this year I'm sure it will not happen, but now the bitcoin price keeps moving upwards slowly, this seems like a new hope to reach $5k+ at the end of the month.
Yeah, indeed looks the target $7000 it's pretty high to reached but i think there's a chance for that because in a few dozen days the segwit2x will goes maybe before that, the bitcoin price bit will go up even I think there's a possibility the price keeps going up even though segwit2x has been passed.
99  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 08, 2017, 03:41:53 PM
As I understood, your case looks totally like mine because we're both playing gambling game principally for fun !
You come back because you have not any mean of entertainment that pleases you as gambling, but if you're really determined to quit gambling you just have to find something that can replace it in your life, something that can give you fun as gambling do.
It is just your excuse , gambling for the sake of fun bla bla bla.
In reality it is always about making money , you claim like that but people see it differently.
You coming back to gamble because there is a reward waiting , a big rewards sometimes, no wonder it is addictive.
While respecting your opinion, I remind you that even in case of a big victory in the sense that I have earned a lot of money I will enjoy them all to have fun and picnicking with my friends, so it comes back to the same either I earn money and use them to have fun or waste my money in the gambling to have the same result.
Not everyone can do that, maybe only a little. indeed when we win we should divert our minds to others but if you tell a friend, of course the conversation you are talking about is gambling, well, this is what will make us gamble back even though already win. you may not believe me, but my words are based on personal experience.
100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: October 08, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
Anybody in gambling that does not set some limits by default without being told, is actually calling for trouble in which when it comes, it might be too much to handle. I set a limit for myself in the ones I am playing and that is a separate balance is kept for gambling at any point in time if that amount is exceeded as a result of winning, the extra is transferred out but if its depleted as a result of loss, what I do is to wait till I have free money to float it again.

He's really gambling his money if he doesn't set up a limit. This is the attitude of most of the gamblers before when they don't learn from their experiences. It's not a good timing if you'll not set a limit when you gamble, you are just dragging yourself to lose with your money and it's like a free money for the house if you keep on doing this.
it will take some time before a person notice that mate, he will keep playing without any limits trying to recover its previous loses even he almost win
but because of really aggressive to bounce back and win back everything then suddenly it will lose again everything.

Without limits plan, a gambler will be like an aimless wanderer. They don't know when to stop and how to appreciate money. And the final result from such habits will be bad, very very bad.
It is good to keep reminding oneself about his right place. If a person will constantly keep an eye on his wallet and responsibilities, he won't dare to waste his money in gambling. It does not mean he won't gamble. Who can stop a drunkard from drinking? No one! Similarly, it is useless to stop gamblers but as far as the person is not betting all his wealth, he will stay safe.
You are wrong, he keep an eye on his wallet and responsibilities, it means, he can control himself because he know in gambling everything unsure and anytime situation can be change, IMO it's different with drunkard, why?? because IMO if the drinked addict is related to health, while the gambling is only related to the mind so if you addicted to gambling then you can easily to ignored it.
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