11k is such a small amount. It like 4-5 bitcoins at todays prices.
Once (if) this coin catches on again and I think it will, it will not take much volume to get BBR back to .003+
That seemed like a good call mate ! Right now BBR is in a good position. - BBR has performant open-source GPU miners, (by contrast some of the miners for other cryptonote coins are closed source, and performance crippled by dev unless donation is set)
- BBR has a usable, intuitive GUI in mainnet, lowering the barrier to entry dramatically to those who are not familiar with command lines, or manually installing libraries etc. For non technical users the BBR setup process is a breeze compared with some other cryptonote coins in their current incarnation . Installation is quicker, syncing is quicker. it Just works well. Not tomorrow, not next week but today.
- BBR has a much more reasonable emission curve than some other cryptonote coins, combined with a much lower value per coin. It would take orders of magnitude less BTC inflow to support the daily mined amount ( should it be dumped every day on the exchange)
- BBR has alias features, enabling you to send coins to any wallet with a simple twitter style @. With other cryptonote coins you are forced to copy and paste complex payment keys.
- BBR has ability to trim the size of the blockchain, not compress it but trim the actual dataset.
- BBR has a clearly competent, responsive dev, familiar with the CN codebase and who is receptive to new ideas. Notably more time is spent here on actually coding features than talking about plans to code features in the form of newsletters, missives etc
- BBR has on the horizon integrations with exciting new technologies and the chance for new infrastructure to be linked between platforms. Some smart individuals are beginning to see the potential, some have been swayed from competitors by community hostility, arrogance-- new opportunities are arising as a result of this
So the fundamentals are clearly strong, and clearly pointing towards the fact BBR is greatly undervalued relative to some competitors. I guess now we just need some more threads -- BBR speculation, BBR wall observer, BBR FAQ's, BBR tech support, BBR altcoin observer, BBR economics, blowing the lid off the cryptonote scam (with the exception of boolberry) etc and begin the strong concerted campaign to push the idea that boolberry is the only altcoin worth investing in aside from BTC  So where are these additional threads that you promised? (Just kidding  ) Big ups to jl777 for the exposure. A big part of crypto adoption is marketing and jl777 has built a solid reputation for himself and the projects he supports. No wonder he is having a good rapport with important personnel in exchanges and other places. I also picked up a few BTCDs while I was browsing his thread and I was happy to exchange a few PMs with him for some great information! |
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I found a single boolberry block ages ago. Is it too late to assign my alias via that block?
Why the alias? Didn't you just "liquidate" yourself when price rose from 18,000 Satoshis to 30,000 Satoshis and announced it like it should be shared with the whole world just a few days ago? Not sure exactly whats going on with boolberry but I am happily liquidating my small hedge there today,
This is another problem Boolberry faces. The demographic is currently the convoluted supporter of competing coin who are happily "liquidating" themselves on forum posts, trollboxes and other places for every BBR rise. Whether they actually do or not is debatable, but the fact that they are always giving an air of dumping etc in order to downplay the potential. I guess this card is being over played by the similar set of forum actors and those who have now started to look at the coin seriously, can see through the charades. |
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I think I am noticing this trend of late too. Just don't even mention BBR The goal is to first convert people who then will do the proselytizing job for them. The other day someone called CryptoNote whitepaper as Monero Whitepaper. Yes, it's a trend to not specifically mention XCP, SJCX, BTM, QBK, DRK, QBK, STR, XCN, VRC, QTL, XC, VIA, REDD, DOGE, C2, AEON and even BBR in every single post in the XMR thread .. it's just a grand conspiracy to ignore everything but Monero in the Monero thread! Here, we ignore particle physics, pornography, electronics, cars, acoustics, food recipes, games to play, carpentry, the weather and .. well .. pretty much everything besides Monero so that all the fans of every single one of those topics can get it in their head that theres just a massive conspiracy .. and one day come here to ask repeatedly and incessantly why nobody is talking about all those things. We are the tinfoil hat factory! You see this doesn't work. The only real threat to XMR monopoly is BBR, not the other angry list that you came up with. So I wasn't impressed by the attempted melodrama. My statement was valid in the context of the question. |
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It's more likely VB just skimmed DGA's post and didn't realize that it was Bytecoin that came out with the crippled miner. The soap opera involving Bytecoin, CryptoNote, Bitmonero, Monero, Quazarcoin, Boolberry, etc. . . is so tangled. And on top of that, there is the FUD spread by the Bytecoin scammers and sockpuppets. It's not surprising that outsiders have a hard time appreciating why Monero deserves to be taken seriously.
I would be willing to chip in for an article about the history of Monero - just the facts. I would be willing to chip in recurrently if the article were to be maintained up-to-date. dga's blog post is a great factual article about the history of Monero. If some geeky kid with a massive conflict of interest accidentally misinterprets/intentionally misrepresents it, that's not our problem. And pa, How Dare YouTM mention other coins in our narrow-minded Monero-only thread? Don't you know how much butthurt will flow through the partisans if you even allude to the existence of Monero's Cryptonote siblings? You must say 100 Hail Tacos for writing the forbidden letters (' bee bee are') in this sanctum sanctorum of the One True CN implementation. Even speaking of [ bee tee see] is completely off-topic, don'tcha know?  I think I am noticing this trend of late too. Just don't even mention BBR The goal is to first convert people who then will do the proselytizing job for them. The other day someone called CryptoNote whitepaper as Monero Whitepaper. |
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I was mining both too. BitMonero went under the radar and those who knew the potential certainly weren't going to create their own competition by announcing it everywhere. Boolberry sure came up with a lot more recognition about the CN protocol and some had been communicating with zoidberg et al for a month. They were obviously a lot more prepared from the get go. There were other factors anyways and how much you could mine isn't the point. The point is how even when hash power entities mine, they help distribution and it impacted both coins almost to similar degrees. In one case (BBR), there was a lot of FUD to stop people from trying to get in the BBR game in order to proselytize XMR.
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Says this who make the biggest scam in cryptocoin history. LOL. lol plus he pointed to the article that proves how Monero fixed and forked away from Bytecoin crippled source-code... butthurt is strong on this one, I dont think he read the link. Hah yeah. From the article it also seems that that miner dumped all the XMR to BTC and then USD. This will have had the effect of ensuring an even fairer distribution amongst those who weren't mining, unless it was just one person buying the whole lot up (which I seriously doubt). The main concern with pre/instamines is that someone could be sitting on a significant % (30%+) of all the coins in circulation, which could completely crash the market and make the coin worthless should they decide to cash out. Which isn't even remotely the situation here. Remember though, this was the same exact line of attack that was being used against BBR when it first came out. There was someone mining and dumping/distributing but by that time several had converted most of their BTC in XMR/had been proselytized and kept ragging against BBR that someone is dumping. It took dga to post how that whole thought point was just FUD and both XMR and BBR had gone through something similar in the beginning. |
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does anybody personally know Peter Todd?
I think it would make sense to hire him to evaluate the tech changes made to the cryptonote baseline
It can be for the incarnation after all the changes are active
James
I think Peter Todd was approached by the Monero "core team" + "extended" monero team in part to promote XMR during an EU meetup. It may still be a good idea, but Peter might consider it a conflict of interest ? It is generally a good idea to approach anyone along those lines and or crpto experts. zoidberg might be able to contact since he is most likely going to know a few ... Also thanks for the recent market action Seems to have created quite a lot of mixed reactions to the say the least |
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Anotheranonlol,
Not sure why you deleted your post. It was spot on observation about drawingthesun guy. The fake story to engage in subtle FUD.
I honestly don't know why they keep trying this. You know people will flock to BBR once they know that XMR is too "pricey" when BBR has a lot of advantages even from a tech perspective.
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But we have seen you work in trollboxes and other competitor coin threads and we know you won't go anywhere.
Okay... now I know you're obviously trolling me. I never been in a trollbox. So good day. I know, you are the sad victim of all this. Bye now. |
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Troll? Never been called that before...
FWIW, I always consider you a troll. You want XMR to succeed, but also have small "investment" in BBR. You aren't out there ever defending BBR in other threads, promoting it but called this project a "red flag". You are always showing concerns about this coin as if you care. Typical concern troll. I never cared about that BBR alias in your signature. There are quite a few from XMR team that troll this thread and you will always be a troll too, regardless of how you post and what you post. I am not the only one who understands this from your posts. It is just that James broke the ice. You might as well post with your original nick which I believe are all about XMR. Called a troll, twice in one day... I must be doing something right! But seriously... I want XMR to succeed. I want BBR to succeed. It's not mutually exclusive in my eyes. For what it's worth I'm (at this moment) more invested (financially) in BBR than XMR but that's neither here nor there... Bottom line is I will not shy away from asking tough questions about a coin I'm invested in. I'm not a fanboy. If a coin does something I like, I'll big it up. When BBR released the mac wallet, I was happy to spend my time testing it and waxing lyrical about it. Equally if I feel like asking a challenging question, I'll ask it, on the premise that no-one with integrity would be offended. Yes there are allegations on another thread ('Blowing the lid...') about the BBR dev, that if substantiated would be cause for concern ('red flag' as I put it). Equally I've said that these rumours don't marry up with the consistency, the quality of work and the dedication that the dev has and continues to do on the coin. So 'I'll reserve final judgment.' It's not my job to defend or substantiate something I know nothing about... the dev can defend himself, if he chooses to entertain it. I've also raised concerns about the distribution of mining and dumping of the coin on Poloniex. This was based on purely on the data and explained in my eyes why the price kept dropping. It was being manipulated in my view, based on the evidence. My cheer-leading, will not stop the coin being manipulated by others. What I can do is try to alert investors (small time investors like me), to exercise caution. This is, imo, one of the best coins out there at the moment, alongside XMR and BTC. However beware there are caveats and don't be surprised if the price is volatile short to medium term. Long term, provided the dev keeps doing what he's doing, this coin has every chance of being a leader in the anon space. If that makes me a troll... by all means put me up there with the best of them!  It does make you a troll and a tool. Best of them is debatable. It is just that people have been waiting for a while to out you. You are more than likely "shojayxt" (Don't be too shocked either) No one believed a shit of obfuscated tooling you attempted there. Basically people can see through your pile of hypocritical garbage. It's too bad that you don't realize that people are not this dumb to fall for the load of crap. Honestly I'd rather see you dump all of your BBR "investment" (lol "more than XMR") and move the fuck out permanently from this thread instead of being an incessant troll pest in the long term. But we have seen you work in trollboxes and other competitor coin threads and we know you won't go anywhere. |
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Troll? Never been called that before...
FWIW, I always consider you a troll. You want XMR to succeed, but also have small "investment" in BBR. You aren't out there ever defending BBR in other threads, promoting it but called this project a "red flag". You are always showing concerns about this coin as if you care. Typical concern troll. I never cared about that BBR alias in your signature. There are quite a few from XMR team that troll this thread and you will always be a troll too, regardless of how you post and what you post. I am not the only one who understands this from your posts. It is just that James broke the ice. You might as well post with your original nick which I believe are all about XMR. |
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IPv4 addresses ran out too. It doesn't mean it had no purpose. In due time, more than 2 million addresses can be accommodated, if there is demand for it down the road. Chains can evolve. For now this is a great feature that no other CN coin has and can serve well within its limitations. It should be appreciated, not dung-coated as something bad. I doubt bagholders who are dedicated to one coin world domination have any desire to see any success from any other coin.
The concern trolling from certain individuals brings out the stubbornness, if there is something like that, in Zoidberg. He knows the folks who have no interest in this project, but keep bringing up concocted problems and concerns about it, while silently hoping it all just goes away.
You're like the most defensive person ever. I didn't say it was bad, I effectively said: The alias system needs work, and instead of saying it is this way because of "vision" Zoidberg should instead work on making it better right now, especially because Zoidberg was earlier saying he wants all the tech in place asap because he is against hardforks. So waiting for a while to fix the alias system is actually counter to Zoidberg's philosophy. This is my first post that I actually tried to give some useful advice to Zoidberg, it's actually in my interest for Zoidberg to leave the alias system in the current state it is in. It is ok to throw ideas out. Don't waste time in dissecting people and don't attack zoidberg as being stubborn or lacking vision. You have malicious intent trying to vilify the core developer and I don't want to defend a person either but I don't want this type of passive vilification slide. Last time I checked he has developed great features and launched a crypto. Bitcoin doesn't even have that many public keys to date. There is little reason to worry about aliases running out. The current system makes sure it isn't abused as it has to be done via solving blocks. |
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IPv4 addresses ran out too. It doesn't mean it had no purpose. In due time, more than 2 million addresses can be accommodated, if there is demand for it down the road. Chains can evolve. For now this is a great feature that no other CN coin has and can serve well within its limitations. It should be appreciated, not dung-coated as something bad. I doubt bagholders who are dedicated to one coin world domination have any desire to see any success from any other coin.
The concern trolling from certain individuals brings out the stubbornness, if there is something like that, in Zoidberg. He knows the folks who have no interest in this project, but keep bringing up concocted problems and concerns about it, while silently hoping it all just goes away.
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I did not know that Let's continue back on BTCD talk in this thread. am looking to sneak in at a good entry point as I am liking what I see here.
Now. haha I know very tempting. I am watching with interest |
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I had been working on privacyServers (since very early this year) for NXTprivacy and I had even created a BBR (best cryptonote tech) fork called pNXT. I was going to create an automated two way peg for pNXT <-> NXT to allow for cryptonote transport of NXT the problem was to create a peg (and doubly so for two way peg), requires continual centralized price support (if you want to be sure the pegs hold and to offer zero cost spreads) or to rely on the magic hand of the market (like btsx is doing - be careful if you have any of this!). Neither of these two seemed sustainable. so I started looking for a coin that was liquid and had a free market based price. Then the price change during transit of the funds from source to destination would be small. that is how ripple's XRP is supposed to work That was a few days after BTCD launched and soon it was at petahash! Since I was looking for a coin with a secure network, it seemed like a good choice. At first I was just going to use BTCD as a transit currency, but I sent a few PM's to Azeh about the issues of using zerocoin (it was in the repo) and instead of the usual, "we know what we are doing" attitude that most coins have, Azeh was very encouraging and supportive. This was in spite of my wanting to use Nxt Inside as a lot of my code uses NXT. I like to use the best software available for simplifying what I need to do and I also use libuv, libwebsockets, nacl, libtom, libcurl, gzip, etc. Why reinvent the wheel when you can get a nice shiny one for free? if you have NXT installed, just go to http://127.0.0.1:7876/test and you will see the API that is available. How can I not use such nice free API? I was in the BBR community for a bit, but I got a PM from their "management" to please post all your stuff about pNXT somewhere else as it is confusing the Boolberry people. Had they been having the attitude of Azeh, I could easily have ended up enhancing BBR instead of BTCD. I also got the same sort of encouragement to leave from the ripple community last december, that is how I ended up in NXT. So not only did Azeh create BTCD for us, he is the reason I am here! He recognized the value of a simple C programmer like me. James Hey James Thanks for the shout out about BBR I think you have a very good attitude that will take you places. I am not sure who sent the PM, obviously they meant no harm and it should probably have been kept in the "dark", but I can understand your frustration given you seem very enthusiastic with everything that you touch. I also know you had big buy support with BBR, so your support was genuine. I am no way affiliated with the "management" (lol) but perhaps you can sympathize given how much they have been held under FUD by competing CN teams and apologies for any confusion. Good luck with this project. I am looking to sneak in at a good entry point as I am liking what I see here. |
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Awww that's so cute. I know it is the CryptoNote whitepaper. I was looking for Monero whitepaper that the poster indicated he had read. For example, if someone said Boolberry whitepaper/presentations, I found them on the Boolberry thread. This might be the type of "shilling" that people are complaining. Now, CryptoNote = Monero, when it is far from it. It should not be called Monero whitepaper, that would be plagiarism. |
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2. I have read the Monero whitepaper
Link to the whitepaper? |
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I'm biased as well, of course (I hold some BBR), but the one part that I disagree with the OP on is the boolberry.com mail issue. For better or worse, I trust btc-mike on this one, and I _was_ following along in the forums when he got things set up. Coincidences are possible, and it's possible that the same features that led the army-of-clones to pick Zoho also led btc-mike to suggest it as well. I second that, btc-mike has nothing todo with the bcn fuckup. And this is my problem with this thread. It is a banal attempt to throw everyone but Monero under the bus, and that includes some wild accusations and mud slinging at a legitimate project like BBR. OP also tries unsuccessfully trying to pass off as not shilling for MRO For fucks sake, can everyone stop talking about fucking Monero! I have nothing to do with Monero. I had to write about Monero because it WAS launched by the CryptoNote developers as Bitmonero, so it was unavoidable.
Sure bro, you of course don't know what they're called or how many they are . If I am not mistaken, this line used to originally say "core team or whatever", wish there was a way to check this ... but mostly because the "core devs" or whatever they're called are made up of reasonably well-known people. That there are a bunch of them (6 or 7?) plus a bunch of other people contributing code means that they're sanity checking each other.
OP has been buying XMR from the beginning, also holds some BBR. Tries to come too hard as a passive research level exposing scams (which by the way everyone and their brother knew already). WTS 0.00145 / 1450 / 2.1025 BTC
!!!! Why didn't you tell me you were selling more, I told you to come to me first!!!!! pm'ing you now:) Just check his post history, full of getting into arguments with everyone else, including anyone that says anything good about BBR. Shilling at it's poorest. This thread would have made sense, if there were people who would come out of the woodwork saying "Hey I used to mine BCN/AEON/FCN/QCN/B.S CN coin mill coin, but thanks for exposing the lies. I am now going to mine XMR". No sorry this didn't happen. You know why it didn't happen? Because everyone fucking knew already. All we see are bagholders puppetting lines like "thanks for opening my eyes, thanks for doing the research" and other utter shill crap. BBR is a legitimate project. Thanks for trying to throw it under the bus. Yah yah, shove your "I hold BBR" bullshit somewhere who fucking cares. We don't have to know how much of what you hold and how that influences your incessant shilling or trolling other coin threads trying to demean them on their face. Like that is supposed to bring in people to form consensus. Go ahead and make a great project like XMR appear like a desperate pump-needed shill coin when it didn't need it. The people will come on their own. STOP BEING A FUCKING FUCKTARD. |
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Well the entire Bytecoin thing has been exposed again and again. The OP has done it himself several times. The difference this time is he is now attacking the only other CN coin of significance which is Boolberry. It was announced in the BBR thread that it was soon going to be rebranded, which is a good idea. But let's track this down a bit more. it doesn't matter that Sabelnikov can shovel bullshit features into his poorly named cryptocurrency, Monero is streets ahead, partly because of the way they're developing the currency, but mostly because the "core devs" or whatever they're called are made up of reasonably well-known people. That there are a bunch of them (6 or 7?) plus a bunch of other people contributing code means that they're sanity checking each other. Yah that doesn't make it monero truthing at all because you know they are "core devs or whatever they are called", you know because he doesn't keep track of them as there aren't enough threads to keep track of what they are called. And that fake fight stuff between amjuarez and zoidberg, genius stuff it spilled over to the cryptonote forum. Very nice Monero is hands down the best CN coin, no doubt. But excessive fucking shilling and arrogance will kill it. Arrogance and fucktardness killed Litecoin. Everything that happened in Litecoin can be traced to the arrogance of the community. The short sightedness to think that they can be Bitcoin, and everything they did revolved around it. I see similar characteristics building in Monero. Remember, it is about consensus and comes with congeniality amongst various other factors. You cannot simply repel others with short sightedness of shitting everything and everyone else into oblivion by force. Do NOT overshill and don't try hard to come off as only subtly trying to sell Monero. There is little to no subtlety left. It is coming off as desperation day by day. |
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