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81  Economy / Reputation / Re: Shelᖚy (TPTB_need_war) Psychoanalysis. Smartest Man in the Altcoin Discussions? on: May 11, 2016, 04:50:44 PM
He's outstandingly smart but not necessarily always smart enough to recognize assumptions. The mind is a very dangerous thing.
82  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED! on: May 11, 2016, 04:32:59 PM
.... you guys who are talking revolution and subversive activities and and seeking to undermine government financial planning (Yes, some of it is stupid and works against its people but that's the exception not the rule). .... your conspiracy theory bullshit .... PS.  In fact right now several governments (starting with the UK, but with Australia not far behind) are quite prepared to file terrorism charges against anyone who makes a credible claim on having been the user of that pseudonym during the time of Bitcoin's development.  It's all about whether it was created in order to facilitate money laundering by "terrorist organizations."  If you've got the "Satoshi" keys, would you really want to come forward and step into that line of fire?

Translation: I'm a law-abiding tax-paying slave and I'm damn proud of it!
83  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin andresen & CIA associates killed satoshi on: May 11, 2016, 04:20:56 PM
I was hacked! disregard my 3rd dispatch and the statements made in it.
Really? Just the 3rd dispatch, not the OP?
84  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name on: May 11, 2016, 04:16:55 PM
Sure... a newbie claiming that we are wrong in being sceptic... man, this it bitcoin world. We learned it the hard way to be sceptic. And no, there is no proof yet. So you are nothing more than a believer.

Believe what you wish... and yes, I am a believer. I gain more from building people up, praising them and making them feel good/better about themselves - because that makes me feel better.

You get back everything you put out. In fact, you get it back tenfold.

Seven-fold, according to Conversations With God. Cheesy

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So, no. I'm not a "skeptic...." If I were, I wouldn't be involved with digital currencies at all. There is nothing cool about being skeptical... all that does is shut of the creative capacity of your brain, which slows your development as a human being. Therefore literally making you sub-human.

There's a fundamental distinction that's important to make between methodological skepticism (what we have employed to determine that there's no good reason to conclude that Wright is Satoshi), and the other forms of (pseudo)skepticism that have subconsciously equated truth with the idea of "authoritativeness". The latter type of "skeptic" is the type that has shut down his right brain and become an automaton follower who believes anything perceived to be coming from an "authority" (and believes nothing perceived to be coming from non-"authoritative" sources).

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Tearing people down, insulting people... making a nuisance of myself... jumping on the bandwagon... following the sheeple... is all completely ridiculous and void of any logic whatsoever. I mean, I'm really going to sit infront of my computer and type a bunch of hateful/snideful remarks and comments against some individual that I've never met before? Is this what people use technology for?

If you're going to sit infront of your computer for more than 1 hour a day, then please let it be because you're building something innovative and adding to the plight of furthering the advancement of humanity.

Tearing people down is so counter productive, and produces nothing tangible in reward

2016 should be the year that trolling becomes obsolete and just some illogical, embarrasing, and "never to be talked about again" trait of human history, that we purged ourselves of via evolution. It is such a bore to witness... people really should evaluate themselves if that is how they're spending/wasting the gift of life. Trolling people they have never met, will never meet, and know nothing about.

You should be using the internet to build connections with people, not to behave in ways that you wouldn't in a person to person / face to face setting. We should all embrace adulthood and leave this kind of behavior in the past.

No one here knows Craig Wright personally. So any assumption made here, can and will never be rooted in fact. So any conclusion that anyone comes to can only be rooted in ignorance. No matter which side of the fence you're on.

It's rooted in the known facts as of this time. It's like you're saying that we don't know anything about anything because we can't know everything about anything.

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If I'm going to be ignorant, then I'd rather my version of ignorance have bundles of positivity, good energy, and respect for humanity attached to it - rather than the opposite. Causing offence and propagating ridicule isn't cool. It isn't classy and the truth is no one would enjoy having this kind of tarnishing directed an them - so why do it to others?

Your heart is in the right place but your perception is weird... If Wright is Satoshi then it's easy for him to prove that he is. Since he hasn't, there's no way he could've expected being treated differently. He's a weird personality for sure, but he's no dummy.

85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name on: May 11, 2016, 03:07:05 PM
LCSociety, I think you wanna do some more reading. You've got your ideology/morality right, but there's no proof that Wright [not White, btw] is Satoshi and people aren't saying that because of statist propaganda. It's also obvious that the USG and IC are panicked about Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, because they are decentralized and thus cannot be controlled.

Let's back up just a minute.... and sloooow it dooowwn. Let's slow it riiiight down and analyse these words that we say so frequently

By the way, "the man that knows something, knows that he knows nothing at all" im just so inquisitive that everything is a question, at least in my reality.

With that mindset, the world is yours!

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In church I was the kid that made the obvious connections.

Christians go to church on SUN-day. To pray to God's one begotten "SON" (SUN) i.e Mom/Mum (o/u being interchangeable). Gods "SON" is the LIGHT of the world. He SHINES HIS LIGHT on us. Has 12 disciples that follow him (like the 12 constellations?) is referred to as the Bright morning STAR. Easter is the celebration of the RISING AGAIN of the "SON" - (Why east-er? Like how the SUN always rises in the east and sets in the west)

When I told the priest that he has been misinterpreting the bible, and god literally is the Sun... he laughed. The read 100 passages from the bible to me, then told me i needed to pray. Even though when you look up the definition of the word planet it returns: "HEAVENLY bodies "

Have you researched what the Gnostics were saying? Makes far more sense! That "God" ain't no such thing, but he's a real being, with expertise in overlaying astrotheological imprints over historical beings (e.g. Yeshua) who re-recognized their divinity.

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But, I digress...

You say digital currencies are decentralised, and so cannot be controlled? How controllable is cash?  Is cash difficult to control because it is decentralised? No, not exactly, because cash is issued centrally. Yet the government wants to scrap cash entirely, to prevent bank runs.

Denmark is a testing ground for this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-moves-closer-to-a-cashless-society-10231995.html

Here is the punchline: Denmark also has imposed, NEGATIVE interest rates: http://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/negative-interest-rates

Negative rates is when savers pay to save.

If cash was prevalent, wouldn't savers simply withdraw all of their cash from the banks and stuff it into some vault somewhere? Of course - hence the coming cashless society, where bank runs are impossible.

There is always a bigger picture to consider

Decentralization doesn't mean something cannot be controlled. I mean, who is making the price per BTC go up and down... no one knows

You mean other than the free market?

Cash or not, it's centrally controlled. Cryptocurrency is not. There are no control vectors! If you think you have a bigger picture, state your case!
86  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: May 11, 2016, 02:18:49 PM
A number of big classic promoters were also big Wright-fighters.

I find myself wondering which way the causal arrow goes? Did Wright, as part of his general deception, convince some of these folks that he created Bitcoin and then spun them up on blocksize because it was his own poorly informed view of the future... or did Wright see their block-size mania as a juicy cognitive vulnerability and exploit it to gain their trust? Maybe a bit of both in a mutually amplifying cycle?

In any case, a strong relationship there would do a lot to explain a number of rather perplexing things-- including the absolute, yet wildly unjustified, confidence in the XT and Classic's forks when they lacked so much, including a productive and experienced set of people supporting them. As extreme as that confidence was in public, what I've seen in  in private is magnitudes worse. "No worries, the Creator will come and save the day."

The constant leaking "satoshi's vision" from that camp might also be connected here.

I'm interested in getting further data points on exactly how this scam was spreading in the Bitcoin space. I have some dates and some people, but a lot I don't know.

But perhaps I'm just being hopeful, -- since if this is true, the worst of this drama may be finally over.

In the 60s-80s, the FBI (and SJW orgs like SPLC) used their mob ties and War On Drugs police state tactics to break up the KKK.

Then they needed a bigger budget new enemy, so the Remnant of anti-centralized authoritarianism Federalists (running the gamut from JBS reactionaries to Libertarians) was put in the crosshairs.

The old joke about everyone you meet at a Klan rally being an undercover informant became a new joke called "spot the fed."  After all, what good is an Elohim City without an Andreas Strassmeir there to stir the pot?

This background may help establish a pattern and practice relevant to explaining the mysterious preponderance of Full Time Professional Libertarians in the Gavinista (IE Craig Wrightist) movement.

One way to spot the Fed is to look at who is advocating the most indefensible actions/opinions.  EG, Olivier J making the neo-nationalist/anti-transnationalist movement appear foolish and bigoted by drunkenly ranting about Evil Mooooslums.

The professional infiltrators/agitators usually seek leadership positions in existing and self-created governance structures, so they can make lists of subversives.  EG, The Bitcoin Foundation.

It appears the nefarious nexus you are looking for exists mostly among the less technical/more political wing of the Bitcoin world (Gavin and Ian Grigg notwithstanding).

Another red flag warning is association with Cato Institute, a quasi-libertarian think tank with petrodollar/neocon foreign policy leanings often pointedly referred to as "Stato" by the antiwar.com types of the Constitutional conservative right.

And right on cue, we find a State-O Institute functionary Jim Harper breathlessly scolding Team Core for no very good reason:

https://twitter.com/Jim_Harper/status/725389920387387392

Perhaps Kyle Torpley will file some FOIA requests and get to the bottom of this rabbit hole.

EDIT: https://twitter.com/bergalex/status/688426920330027009

I think today on the interwebs a full spectrum strategy is followed, whereby you have people "advocating the most indefensible actions/opinions" all the way up to very subtle subversion. Gavinistas would be somewhere in the middle. The idea is to generate an appearance of chaos and confusion, as with the "no planes"/"TV fakery" 9/11 disinfo. The good thing in cryptoland is that it doesn't matter what tactics they come up with or how many "Trusts" (TBF etc) they set up, cuz decentralization!

87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ***TRUMP COIN***V2 SMART COIN RELEASED!**TRUMP COIN***MAKING CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN** on: May 06, 2016, 06:50:44 PM
The coin symbol is a double edged sword. Although it carries a high meme factor, I'm not sure everyone knows it's meant as a positive thing. Or that it's an upside down Obama symbol. Many just see it as a mockery of his hair.

The high meme factor is precisely what is needed. Donald Trump enjoys mockery of his hair. The logo is brilliant.


88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Put some Respeck On Craig Wright's name on: May 06, 2016, 06:46:24 PM
LCSociety, I think you wanna do some more reading. You've got your ideology/morality right, but there's no proof that Wright [not White, btw] is Satoshi and people aren't saying that because of statist propaganda. It's also obvious that the USG and IC are panicked about Bitcoin/cryptocurrencies, because they are decentralized and thus cannot be controlled.
89  Other / Meta / Re: URGENT: please peer review a possible back door in Bitcoin? on: May 05, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
Hey TPTB_need_war, I love what you're doing, but dude, tune down the arrogance a tiny bit... You're more effective and influential as a gentle leading researcher than as a jackass with a high opinion of himself and a low opinion of less technically proficient people. Quit calling people idiots and retards if you want to have greater impact and be more appreciated by the community.


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I just wanted to have a discussion. The Bitcoin maximalists turned it into a war. Bastards.
Posting what you're posting, people invested will act emotionally, and you then exacerbate the reactions with your insults. They are reflecting to you what you are putting out. Smiley
90  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3rd dispatch - The Coward That killed Satoshi Nakamoto on: May 03, 2016, 04:13:50 PM
Wrong section.  Move this to "fantasy and fiction" as it doesn't belong here.
LOL, I grew up in a LEO/intelligence family and it is always entertaining to see what people think the CIA does. Comedy gold.  Cheesy
Do you understand the idea of compartmentalization?
Is that when your brain locks up all the stuff you don't understand into one area and calls it whacky or tries to disprove it with "science"?
Hahaha, yep, that's another type of compartmentalization. I like to call that an "information bubble". The largest one in terms of adherents is the MSM information bubble.
91  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3rd dispatch - The Coward That killed Satoshi Nakamoto on: May 03, 2016, 04:02:02 PM
Wrong section.  Move this to "fantasy and fiction" as it doesn't belong here.

LOL, I grew up in a LEO/intelligence family and it is always entertaining to see what people think the CIA does. Comedy gold.  Cheesy
Do you understand the idea of compartmentalization?
92  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED! on: May 03, 2016, 01:06:49 PM
The interesting thing to me is how desperate people are to prove that Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi. Why is that? Because of his unpleasant personality? Because they're scared he'll start weighing in on the blocksize debate? Or because they're scared he'll start moving coins and tank the market in the process?

Why would that be the interesting thing to you? Is it that you are an unthinking speculator big-blockist? You're essentially saying that if you said you are Satoshi, people should just believe you without any proof, even when proof is easy to produce and the obvious crypto thing to do.
93  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin andresen & CIA associates killed satoshi on: May 03, 2016, 12:15:26 PM
Many of you know me as cryptcracker, the bounty hunter that is uncovering the truth behind the Crypty "hack" and bringing the perpetrators to justice. However I have been doing this kind of work far before the cryptsy incident, I am making this dispatch today to reveal crucial information on the sudden news about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity and the plot Gavin Andresen has been involved in.
 
Satoshi was the greatest mind that I have seen in ages always calm and collected a real genius. Notice that I said was, that's because I'm sorry to say Satoshi Nakamoto was murdered by Gavin Andresen and his CIA associates. The CIA saw the transparency of the blockchain and they thought this would be a good way to track their "dirty subordinates". Let me explain, the CIA gives money, guns and drugs to terrorists so they can do things like stage a coup and overthrow governments this is well documented. The CIA saw the transparency of bitcoin and got the idea to start using bitcoin as one of the ways they fund these dirty subordinates.
 
Gavin was given the task of identifying Satoshi and flipping on him which he did. Once Satoshi was found and about to be captured I was informed 1 of 2 things happened, Satoshi committed suicide or the authorities were successful in capturing Satoshi and Satoshi was tortured and then killed. I am sorry for not being 100% certain on which one it is but it was one of the two I know this because my sources also relayed documents to me showing Satoshis dead body and classified CIA files.

Best hypothesis I've seen so far... but evidence? You have nothing to turn this into even a theory, yet you are presenting it as fact?

Anonymous sources = no evidence. Especially if you're also anonymous.

It sure as hell would explain Gavin Andresen's otherwise-incomprehensible behavior, though. The "visit" to the CIA would've been a ruse to cloak that he already was a CIA asset.


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Craig Wright was chosen as the CIA's front man to act like he was the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Gavin Andresen was to use his position in the community to pass this off. However these fools completely botched there plan because 1. they don't have the keys to the best of my knowledge and 2. they over estimated their manipulative tactics. The CIA got used to pulling these tactics on the general population but they didn't understand something this transparent wouldn't work against the bitcoin Community since it's much more tech savvy.

But Gavin wouldn't have been that stupid (unless deliberately), and they also approached Andreas Antonopoulos, who obviously is no fool.


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This was one of the saddest stories that I have known about for a while and I think it needs to get out there. I am currently hesitant in releasing the confidential CIA files because if Satoshi's identity is know his friends and family will be in danger along with my sources. I will attempt to secure them so they are not in danger once that is done I might be able to release the files.

Make a proof of existence if you haven't already!!


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Thank you for your time, another dispatch will be coming soon.

You must provide something solid though, otherwise your word is about as good as Wright's.
94  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is revealed and nobody here cares about this?? on: May 02, 2016, 04:11:58 PM
I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own 7 eyes. Craig Wright signed the Genesis Block confirming that he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto.



Whahahahahaha, beautiful, you should create a new topic just for this.
95  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi is revealed and nobody here cares about this?? on: May 02, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
The man behind the handle Satoshi Nakamoto has died years ago and since then somebody is desperately trying to make the people believe he is still alive and to take over his identity.

Reasons why you believe this?
96  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig & Satoshi. A sly attempt to get gavin's will done. on: May 02, 2016, 03:46:57 PM
Isn't it kinda nice to see Gavin self-destruct?

Is there anyone who still thinks we aren't witnessing coordinated covert attacks against Bitcoin?
97  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin Andresen's AMA on 8btc 21th April on: April 21, 2016, 06:00:30 PM
Gavin Andresen was Satoshi's biggest mistake.

He may have started as a "chief scientist" (whatever that means), but now he is the Chief Saboteur, a bankster and statist bootlicker.

Gavin tells Satoshi he'll be visiting the CIA, and Satoshi disappears... Nothing strange there.

Seemingly fake demeanor too. We can only speculate on motivations, but his actions speak for themselves (except to his unthinking followers who are looking for a "leader").
98  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Help Mexicans to Overcome Trump’s Border Wall on: April 21, 2016, 02:29:50 PM
I don't know what Trump is trying to achieve with this.

It's not so much about what Trump is trying to achieve, more what the establishment figures behind him want. That's right I said it, Trump's anti-establishment credentials are a charade; he's got deep ties to the establishment class in the US, and has done for a while, likely his whole life.
He's got deep ties to the "establishment class", of course, but the difference is that he cannot be bought. Trump is out for Trump; the politicians are puppets willing to sell (or in the case of the smarter ones like Hillary, rent) themselves to the puppeteers. There hasn't been such an American president since at least 1962.

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To me, it's a psychological thing. W Bush was the "idiot president", Obama the "aspirational president" and Trump is the "wild-man president", but all these are just semi-characters, as near enough all public speaking is scripted for US Presidents. I know Trump is genuinely shooting from the hip on stage, but let's not forget he's the real professional Cheesy.
Notice though the major, major, major difference in how the MSM treats Trump. That's what tells you that Trump really is a full-character "wild-man president".

I'm an anarchist, BTW, yet I think it's obvious that Trump is the only "hope" for Americans near-term. The last thing you want is another politician, all of whom cater to the special interests and thinktank-generated geopolitical agendas. Trump is a manager and treats the job as another business. Assuming he's fundamentally honest, as he seems to be, the degree to which he will do good is the degree to which he doesn't allow himself to be fooled by the bad actors (including the funders of ISIS and false flag operators).
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ***TRUMP COIN***V2 ANNOUNCEMENT!**TRUMP COIN***MAKING CRYPTO GREAT AGAIN** on: April 07, 2016, 02:20:48 PM
03 The coins current global supply is 20 million. This will be reduced to 12 million. The current 5.7 million (approx) coins that are in existence will be auto generated for the swap. All of this will of course be documented and verifiable.

How will this reduction of max coins be done, relatively or absolutely? (Relatively means that 5.7 million becomes 3,420,000.)


Also, what makes you believe that Trump won't sue you the way Kanye West did Coinye?
100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: April 05, 2016, 02:18:21 PM
Bringing it back on topic, I'd say that it's surprising that all these Bitcoin Classic folks believe such tripe, but in the context of all the other incompetent nonsense they believe, it doesn't seem so surprising.

It's too technical for most people to understand, and people prefer the title of "Chief Scientist" over "Staff".
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