Many rabbis and atheistic Jews alike refer to non-Jews as "goyim" (the nations, the non-Chosen) in a derogatory way. There are countless examples in Israeli newspapers. That's not to say that all Jews use the term derogatorily, but I do get the impression that you do. You said that Jews are " fundamentally virtuous", which implies that certain other groups of people are not fundamentally virtuous (because you believe that there is some kind of inherent evil in the "anti-Semites"). It means you are defining yourself as a Jew first and a human being second. It should be the other way around. The way I would have expressed such an idea is to say that humans are fundamentally virtuous. That you miss this point is indicative of a mental pathogen, of which chosenness (a sense of superiority based on the idea of being "God's chosen people") is just one. |
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http://www.ifex-project.org/Seems to have fizzed out a bit, but this proposal would allow you to use "BTC", "LTC" etc. while still conforming to a standard. Interesting! Peter Lambert, check this out and see if it makes more sense to you than the old ISO 4217 standard. Conventional currencies are normally identified via ISO 4217 codes, typically alpha-3 codes such as 'EUR' and 'CNY'. The IFEX Project has proposed X-ISO4217-A3 as an IANA-managed registry of currencies and currency-like commodities not backed by the political recognition of a conventional nation-state that do not fall within the classical purview of the ISO, for example digital currencies. Since reliable inter-system identification of any financial asset type is a requirement for reliable communication, and conventional foreign exchange liquidity with conventional currencies is often perceived as a soft-requirement for digital currency adoption, X-ISO4217-A3 should assist the digital currencies community with the development of a ecosystems supporting both conventional and emerging asset types: exchanges, hosted wallets, banks, etc. BTC is a commodity.
XBT is a currency.
QED
Not quite QED, but an interesting idea. The only problem is that it adds unnecessary complexity. Why not have one universal symbol for the same currency/commodity/thing/idea? |
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Just because he is jewish and he may have stolen the coins doesn't make your lies about jews true.
You'll find thieves everywhere, among jews and goyim, in fact there are more goyim thieves than jewish thieves... Absolutely speaking, yes. Relatively speaking, no. But you say observations are "lies" yet at the same time refer to non-Jews as goyim, how nice of you. In fact, jewish people is a fundamentally virtuous people, you are only emphasizing on some thieves to justify your propaganda. Jews are somehow "fundamentally virtuous", but you don't extend that appreciation to all humans. Why is that? |
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bitcoin should not migrate to conform to the 'old type' of system i agree fully. but the old type of system is not about fiat. after al there are codes for wheat, poultry gold.. all of which are not fiat. Yes, but they are "non-standard" types of currency, hence the X__ assignation. XBT might be acceptable as ticker symbols for mainstream trading sites as they add Bitcoin, but do we want cryptocurrencies to be relegated to some "non-standard" category? Obviously not. XBT does not indicate anything about "non-standard". In fact, it is the opposite, it indicates following the established international standards. XAU is gold, XAG is silver, those are not non-standard currencies, they are just currencies that were not issued by any national government. Likewise, bitcoin was not issued by a national government, so its code should start with X. I put "non-standard" in quotes because I knew it wasn't the best term. Perhaps "non-government issued and therefore less significant" would be a better descriptor. The first part is what the X means and the second part is the impression it gives. But that's just one reason why XBT is a bad idea, as I have pointed out. Perhaps you can point out some of the benefits of using XBT over BTC? Are you saying gold and silver are less significant than government fiat? X means non-government, therefore universal. Therefore, these should be regarded as more significant. In normal usage, like where you would use $, BTC is fine. For places like exchanges where USD would be used, the term XBT should be used to conform with accepted standards. Again, the accepted standards you refer to were not designed for cryptocurrencies nor with cryptocurrencies in mind. ISO 4217 was created for a purpose whose scope (200 nation-states + X__ for commodities etc) is too small to encompass cryptocurrencies. Using XBT would also mean that other cryptocurrencies must also conform to ISO 4217, so Litecoin might be XLT or XLC. Can you imagine all cryptocurrency symbols starting with an X? Terrible idea. This would also limit the number of cryptocoin symbols to about 660 (26^2-16). Your argument was more valid in 2011 before the altcoin explosion. It's also about perception. When people see XBT, XLT, XDO, XPC, XPP, XAR, XQK (dogecoin, primecoin, ppcoin, auroracoin, quark), etc etc, they get an unconscious impression that these are somehow "less" than the non-X ones. When, in fact, the point we're trying to make is that they are "more", better. And, if you grant the argument that cryptocurrencies will eventually replace fiat currencies due to rendering them technologically obsolete, then placing cryptocurrency symbols under the same standard used to represent the obsolete currencies is placing them under the same umbrella, which is counterproductive in fact and submissive in principle. |
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Decided to shut down.
Site won't come back
Good luck in future research
Hopefully some coins can be recovered. And this guy above put in jail. Why did you decide to shut down? |
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Wow, so Mark Karpeles IS a Jew (i.e. defines himself as such). Above all, I have learned that anti-Semitism was born the same moment as was
monotheism. This helped me find the answer to the question that I have always asked: “Why
anti-Semitism?”
If anti-Semitism came into being at the same time as monotheism, namely in the moment
when the Alliance between God and the Jews was concluded, then it is the response of the Evil
Forces to this Covenant.
Anti-Semitism is the response of Evil Forces to the Alliance between God and Man.
Indeed it has all the characteristics of evil: stupidity, absurdity, and defeat!
The Forces of Evil use anti-Semitism in their attempt to destroy the Covenant between
God and Man.
Mark Karpeles Here he uses the term "Man" to refer to the Jews. This is the mainsteam-rabbinical (Talmudic) interpretation of the Pentateuch that sees the Jews as men and the Gentiles/Goyim as less than human. Like a troublemaking drunkard being kicked out of every bar in town, Karpeles wonders what is wrong with "the others" (the "anti-Semites"), never wondering if the problem might be closer to home. "Why anti-Semitism", Mark? Because of chosenness envy, or because of detrimental Jewish behavior? Myth or reality? Hmmm.... |
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I don't think we can verify it, but have a look at this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=513100.0The 3rd largest account by balance, which has exactly 19,985 BTC, has an 'Index' of 4, which might mean that this is a MtGox insider account. |
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Great research, substratum, thanks.
So it's not that someone hacked a server and replaced legitimate cryptocoin-qt with a trojan-infected one, this is an operation by the authors of these altcoins themselves.
I wonder how successful they've been in stealing money this way...
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bitcoin should not migrate to conform to the 'old type' of system i agree fully. but the old type of system is not about fiat. after al there are codes for wheat, poultry gold.. all of which are not fiat. Yes, but they are "non-standard" types of currency, hence the X__ assignation. XBT might be acceptable as ticker symbols for mainstream trading sites as they add Bitcoin, but do we want cryptocurrencies to be relegated to some "non-standard" category? Obviously not. XBT does not indicate anything about "non-standard". In fact, it is the opposite, it indicates following the established international standards. XAU is gold, XAG is silver, those are not non-standard currencies, they are just currencies that were not issued by any national government. Likewise, bitcoin was not issued by a national government, so its code should start with X. I put "non-standard" in quotes because I knew it wasn't the best term. Perhaps "non-government issued and therefore less significant" would be a better descriptor. The first part is what the X means and the second part is the impression it gives. But that's just one reason why XBT is a bad idea, as I have pointed out. Perhaps you can point out some of the benefits of using XBT over BTC? XBT (Guess we are stuck with it) Only if we want to conform to a standard that was not designed for cryptocurrencies nor with cryptocurrencies in mind (because they didn't exist). |
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algoritmo sha256
FECHA LANZAMIENTO 13/03/2014 21:00 hora españa -- 20:00 londres
el hispacoin.conf se pondra mañana a la hora del lanzamiento
un saludo
Hora de España y de Londres para que los latinoamericanos sepan la hora del lanzamiento, muy bien pensado. Sugiero pensarlo mejor y lanzar este altcoin con más tiempo y bien hecho, no a lo español. |
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Pointless discussion: we have the Internet. I didn't know many currency codes until I Googled them. It takes 5 seconds to do at most. "BTC currency code" -- You want to buy Bitcoin on a conventional, large exchange in the future, that's all it takes.
I really doubt anyone will give half a damn that some organization has labeled Bitcoin as coming from "X," partially because I doubt more than .001% of people will even know what the Hell "X" means.
The point of the discussion is to bring clarity as to the pros and cons of the community using BTC over XBT (as the ISO standard would have it), because some people are using XBT instead of BTC, creating some degree of confusion. A newcomer or businessperson might think: "These Bitcoin people can't even settle on what abbreviation they want to use!" To settle on one or the other seems like a wise/clever thing to do. |
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bitcoin should not migrate to conform to the 'old type' of system i agree fully. but the old type of system is not about fiat. after al there are codes for wheat, poultry gold.. all of which are not fiat. Yes, but they are "non-standard" types of currency, hence the X__ assignation. XBT might be acceptable as ticker symbols for mainstream trading sites as they add Bitcoin, but do we want cryptocurrencies to be relegated to some "non-standard" category? Obviously not. This has of course been discussed before, and some posters have seen the obvious problem with conforming to irrelevant/outdated standards: No. The naming system is a tacit endorsement of the idea that something issued by a government is more official then something that is not. We should not voluntarily put ourselves in the X subbasement. Right now, some of the establishment ignores B, another considers it a scam and a ponzi only fit for criminals, the third wants to kill it as a deadly competitor, and so on... It's NOT "required" to follow their ISO.  You think you are going to "get Bitcoin accepted as a mainstream investment in the world's financial markets" by adopting their rules of the systems that B was made to make obsolete? As the great Casascius saying goes, that would be "a screen-door submarine with a wood trim!" Bitcoin is an unprecedented entity, that was made to disrupt the old currency system - to be non-conformist, rather than suck up to the establishment. I think Bitcoin should have the code that it already has, and the establishment should just accept that, or call it whatever they wish, IF they ever actually accept it as a mainstream whatever. Many people have been using the code BTC for bitcoins, which is clearly wrong. There exists a currency BTN (Bhutan, Ngultrum); BT is the country code for Bhutan. BTC, by the code rules, stands for Bhutan Colones, or Bhutan Crunchies, or Bhutan Calafragilistics. BTC is not Bitcoins.
The rules are pretty clear. Bitcoins are not issued by a nation state, so the code should start with X. Peter Lambert proposes (or states as if obvious) that we "follow the rules" created by the very system that BTC threatens to obsolete. LOL. Then again, it was 2011 when he posted that. As for Bhutan, now I understand what Sukrim meant. But this would only be relevant if following the conventions of ISO 4217. |
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^ Yep, smells like a scam on many levels...
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"El dinero del Pueblo para el Pueblo" (the money of the People for the People), but you use the coat of arms of the "royal family" as the logo? WTF were you smoking? Or is this a scam launching off the success/idea of Auroracoin?  The symbol above quite literally means "this is the dominion of the Kingdom of Spain"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Spain |
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According to the 'Stamp' (timestamp) column in the mtgox_balances file, no less than 25% of accounts with over 100 BTC were left untouched after 7 Feb 2014 (the day withdrawals were suspended). More specifically: - 361 out of 1434 (25%) accounts with ≥ 100 BTC remained untouched (total untouched balance: 204,801 BTC, out of 682,094 BTC)
of which: - 24 out of 104 (23%) are accounts with ≥ 1000 BTC (total untouched balance: 125,590 BTC, out of 348,686 BTC)
If we assume that 'Stamp' means 'last balance change', that means that 1/4th of people with large sums decided not to do anything (neither trading fiat for BTC at bargain prices or using BitcoinBuilder). It also seems odd that of the top 5 balances, all over 10,000 BTC, 3 of them didn't do anything either: | User_Wallet__ | User__ | Currency__ | Balance | Liabilities | Index | Backend | Daily_Withdraw_Limit | Monthly_Withdraw_Limit | Disable_Limits | Stamp |
+--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+------------+---------------+-------------+---------+---------+----------------------+------------------------+----------------+---------------------+
| 5c05557d-8d1e-4e2a-9a24-21781413be32 | 711a4e9d-e183-4bec-a390-340918326538 | BTC | 4454767562508 | 0 | 156624 | virtual | 0 | NULL | N | 2012-07-13 06:58:01 |
| a6acd802-bb4f-412b-be6d-b0bf3f2bb055 | 34fcda44-5832-48c3-8beb-60f1bd9fef37 | BTC | 4376817697344 | 0 | 42208 | virtual | 2000000000000 | NULL | N | 2014-02-25 03:53:01 |
| 221d365a-ce33-4619-a8fb-f79514940bb1 | c0b24126-f199-4cc6-83fc-c96f2bcb9381 | BTC | 1998500000000 | 0 | 4 | virtual | 0 | NULL | N | 2012-08-11 10:30:00 |
| 2ae40a68-c862-4fd3-8ebc-a05a7e0fbfac | 92d047e9-9f2b-4dd0-9163-077db3e56dd0 | BTC | 1150063956592 | 0 | 253 | virtual | NULL | NULL | N | 2013-11-26 02:35:25 |
| 1ad3f250-17dc-4d3d-9aff-15f3ed40cec9 | ff84fc35-b22a-492d-b8f2-5fb79be170a7 | BTC | 1100781000685 | 0 | 3941 | virtual | NULL | NULL | N | 2014-02-20 22:30:51 |
The 3rd one has an 'Index' of 4, which might mean that this is a MtGox insider account (with exactly 19,985 BTC). |
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Ahahahaha, best Karpeles photoshop yet!
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This coin really have one big problem - inactive dev.
No, this coin's problem is that it is (or, alternatively, has been infected with) a wallet stealer. A Russian wallet stealer. What a "coincidence" that the last posters in this thread, bumping it, seem to be Russians. Hoping to get some victims to download the client, perhaps? |
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A friend of mine who mines scrypt coins, but who otherwise isn't that geeky, discovered an oddly named hidden .zip file in his C: root directory (2014Äê2ÔÂ13ÈÕ18ʱ45·Ö.zip - he doesn't have cyrillic script installed). In it are contained the wallet.dat files for all his cryptocoins (renamed to Bitcoin.dat, Litecoin.dat, etc). Checking the file's last modified date and looking at the Prefetch directory, I determined that this file was created after running mousecoin-qt.exe or Mouse.exe (contained in the downloaded MouseCoin-Qt1.0.0.0_Win.rar). He downloaded that from the official site on 13 Feb 2014, linked to from the Bitcointalk announcement thread. When opened, mousecoin-qt.exe generates a hidden VBS file (tem.vbs), but this file in itself is innocent, cointaining just these four lines: Dim fso
Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
fso.DeleteFile("C:\Program Files\MouseCoin-Qt1.0.0.0_Win\mousecoin-qt.exe")
fso.DeleteFile("C:\Program Files\MouseCoin-Qt1.0.0.0_Win\tem.vbs")
So the wallet-stealing code is contained in mousecoin-qt.exe itself, and the VBS file is used to delete itself. I haven't gone so far as to check where the .zip file with the wallets is sent, but if anyone is interested let me know. As of today, the "official" MouseCoin sites (mousecoin.net and mouseco.in) return a 404, and the announcement thread has been renamed to " [ANN]New Coin MouseCoin ,yep,i m Jerry !", and some Russian users appear to have posted over the last several weeks for the purpose of bumping the thread. TL;DR: MouseCoin steals all your cryptocoin wallets! Had my friend not password-protected his wallets, they'd have all been wiped instantaneously. |
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To me, MtGox's total lack of communication and Mark's unchanging dolphin face smirk suggests he is under someone's control.
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