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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO][ECH] Ethconnect - LENDING | STAKING | TRADING in Best Platform on: December 05, 2017, 03:02:38 AM
Guys be careful! I have never received the funds I have deposited there, and their support is unreachable. Do not sponsor these scammers any more!

 STOP CRYING AND LOOK FOR UPDATED NEWS


Dear everyone,
With so many requests for support, we can not respond immediately. If you have an error about the balance, please send an email to the address: "balance@ethconnect.net" with the content:
E-mail:
User:
TXID:
Balance ETH or BTC:

Hello, Where did that update come from? I did not see anything on Telegram. Thanks

Note: I deposited coins from the beginning on two accounts and the coins have not shown up.


this is where the fund was transffered to few hours ago.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xd6ee9b638b44f84578d590781dd3350c74bd4044

575 eth already transferred to this acct as of this post. 2 of the transactions was from my account...

Okay, dude, Ethconnect is simply leading your coins to their cold storage. Rest assured that your coins are in safe hands - THEIRS!!!
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 05, 2017, 02:59:36 AM
https://www.hydrominer.org/hydrominer-will-listed-coss/

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Today, we are happy to announce that the H2O Tokens will be listed on the Singapore exchange COSS.io right after the Token Sale ends.

Rune Evensen, co-founder of COSS,  stated that he is looking forward to have HydroMiner on their exchange:

"We welcome HydroMiner on our exchange – we like their approach to make crypto mining more eco-friendly and are happy to support them."

COSS leads the way in not listing securities tokens to comply with Singapore regulations. The H2O tokens are vouchers for mining time, and therefore do not classify as securities under Austrian regulations.

https://coss.io/


http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/coss.io


Has anybody here seen my old friends, H20,
Can you tell me where they've all gone?
I could feed a lotta people, but it seems I don't see them now
I just looked around and they're gone.
823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 05, 2017, 01:27:57 AM
I'll give you one hint as to whose ETH wallet address was used to create the ERC20 token H20 smart contract:

https://icobazaar.com/v2/digital_developers_fund/team

824  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 05, 2017, 12:55:21 AM
https://www.hydrominer.org/wp-content/uploads/HydroMiner.pdf

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Future Projects

Using the proceeds of the ICO, the HydroMiner team will equip more hydro power stations in the Alps.
HydroMiner has several options for power stations. In Styria for example, there is an option to place units
in containers at a facility with an output of up to 12,000 kW. Other smaller facilities are also available in
southern Germany, with a range from 500 kW to 4,500 kW.

https://www.hydrominer.org/status-next-steps/

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These two stations generate enough power to meet our demands, and we don’t plan to add another station right away.

Translated: Thanks for all the fish.

.....

FWIW, I've always fantasized about being fucked up the ass by two German sisters.
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 11:52:52 PM
https://www.hydrominer.org/status-next-steps/

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While we are all for transparency, for competitive and security reasons we are sometimes hesitant to disclose the exact location of our stations.

<snip a couple sentences>

On November 29th, we are organizing a tour to one of the stations. If you are interested in joining and meeting the team, please get in touch!

Translated: In spite of declaring that we have no competition, we don't want our competition to be versed on the locations of our dams, but we're willing to show anybody interested in seeing our facility by simply requesting an invite, whereupon you'll be welcome to attend. And feel free to remain anonymous during your visit, i.e. not disclosing you're affiliated with our competition, again, that we don't have.

.............

Totally fuckin amazin' what comes outta these fucks' pie holes, eh? Prudent to not state locations but offer a tour. Let me guess. Everybody attending the tour MUST sign a binding NDA. How close am I?


"We are the knights that guard the secret location of HydroMiner's dam sites. NOBODY can learnt their secret locations unless ... wait for it ... they're on the tour list. If you're not on the tour list and try to force us to tell you their locations, we will be forced to inflect a flesh wound on your body, then have our killer rabbit chase you away."
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BCC] Bitconnect Coin - Decentralized Cryptocurrency on: December 04, 2017, 11:14:11 PM
Many rumors now go about this coin. I bought some of these coins. Everyone decides for himself whether he needs to or not. But I hope that the coin will show itself well in the near future!

Thats certainly true, everyone should make his own experiences and do his own research about where he is going to put his money into. Its nobodys business to care for other peoples money.

Quite frankly, I don't give a shit where retards spend there money. What's paramount pertaining to the likes of BitConnect is that they're entities polluting the crypto space.
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
Do we have any update on the post ICO activities, where is everything is up find out next steps. looking forward to a update! Smiley

You might want to take a look at: https://www.hydrominer.org/news/

Latest article would be: https://www.hydrominer.org/getting-ready-mine/



<source, latter link>

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Do you already mine?

As we already told you, we bought antminers in the worth of about $1.000.000.

So, that satisfies mining bitcoin, what new hardware is gonna be mining GPU-based PoS ETH et al.?



"Dude, I'm fuckin Batman, and I'm telling you there's no PoS ETH to mine down that shaft no matter how fuckin hard and deep we drill. Even if we used the new Acme Drilling Squirter and reached the core of the Earth, we won't produce a single wei, szabo or finney. To be frank, Frank, why do we still have such nonsense on our website after we've already caved in - no pun intended - upon being chastised by miners brighter than us? Another thing, the miners are talkin' 'bout strikin' unless they get some windows installed, serving as an escape when a penguin crosses their path. Can I have another Red Bull?"
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
Do we have any update on the post ICO activities, where is everything is up find out next steps. looking forward to a update! Smiley

You might want to take a look at: https://www.hydrominer.org/news/

Latest article would be: https://www.hydrominer.org/getting-ready-mine/

Taken on their article :

What happens with the mining profits that are generated until H20 Token holders can start to mine?

The proceeds from the mining until February 2018 will go 100% to HydroMiner GmbH


And BOOOM

Investors getting scammed again ! hahaha xD

I propose a compromise: HM can have all the PoS ETH that they mine ad infinitum.
829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 05:55:49 AM

I, too, stumbled upon myriad inconsistencies, but my posts were stuck up my dry ass sans lube, resulting in vulgarity streaming from my pie hole.  Cry (I'm almost better now  Kiss)

The following did elude me, thus thanks for that, bud:

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They told Trending Topics in October, shortly before their ICO started, that their mining rigs are located in Bruck an der Mur and Langenlois.

A couple of days later they told futurezone.at that their mining rigs are located in Schönberg and Waidhofen an der Ybbs.

On Medium they wrote (already in September), that their mining rigs are located in Murau and Schönberg.

The PR agency of HydroMiner on the other hand, speaks of Langenlois and Waidhofen an der Ybbs as the locations of their mining rigs.

MD101 [in 5 ..... 4.... 3...]: Nobody cares what cities or towns or villages HM's miners are located in, you fuckin retard, who has yet to apologize for being wrong like he is 100% of the time. Your questions and concerns are pointless, hence deserving to be ignored by Team HydroMiner. And, to be fair, I think Nadine's the squirter, not Nicole.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 01:45:42 AM
Now if anyone  that didn’t agree with the fucking retard gleb shithead they must be from the team according to his stupid detective work,

No one can hate him even after reading his fucking uncivilised language. He is the angel , the bitcointalk police.

Great guy. But retard in this thread, can’t admit his own mistake and blunder, try to drag everyone and try to push hard his detective work

Okay, you win. I will no longer reply to your ignorant ass.
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 01:36:03 AM
Aren’t you a fucking stupid old shit huh?

Come on blame everyone else again,

Now who you gonna blame? Your mum?

My mom died at the age of 39 in 1981 due to cancer.

You're on a roll, bud!
832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
What is wrong with this retard detective.
Are you fucking stupid?
That guy already answer everything,

It is just your ego that you didn’t want to admit you in a wrong spot. Dickhead

Just fly to that damm country and visit them face to face and stop being a keyboard warrior .


Can I puff on what you're smokin'?

"Can you provide us with the ETH public addresses where have you been mining ETH or other coins, at from which pool ?"

TBC, for obviously you're slow, the above has never been addressed here, for I've read this entire thread and failed to see it answered.

What a moron old fag.
Why the fuck they have to show you what they have mine before starting the project?
That is their own shit. Even before the project begin.

Doesn’t make sense, they don’t even have to do that. And reveal it to public.

Just because you can’t find any other unanswer question you ask some stupid shit huh?
That guy clearly didn’t read all your fucking stupid post with all that fucking uncivilised language, nobody gonna fucking entertain you with that shit.


What else you gonna ask? Where the fuck they got their money? What bank they fucking use? How much money they have in their bank account?


Don’t be a fucking idiot and admit that you clearly so fucking stupid with your delusional detective play that fucking so stupid and so emotional with all that ads hominem and shit.

Just keep being a keyboard warrior shit and play detective okay. You think you so good with that, but clearly you just make fool of yourself in this thread.

Mods must have warned you huh with all the ads hominem, abusive and swear word? No wonder you become a good kids in here. Scare your account to get banned? Hahaha

Now I remember when and why I started cussing like a motherfuckin sailor and saying that Nicole's a squirter. It was because of your posts, you fuckin cocksucker.

Here's the deal, your fuckin retard. All a mod - ANY MOD - has to do is to show definitive proof that I was warned about posting vulgar in this thread and theymos has my permission to ban all my user accounts including this one.

Translated: I opted to end vulgarity on my own accord AND a mod NEVER told be to stop doing such.

That outta way, ASSHOLE, Sascha wouldn't have found that question penned by me if he had read my posts up to the one above the fold because ... WAIT FOR IT FUCKIN MORON - it wasn't I who asked it. It was Magincune500 at the beginning of the thread prior to HydroMiner ever cam on my radar ...

So you guys say that most of you are experiences in Mining since 2014, including CEO and CTO , nice sounding position names.

Can you provide us with the ETH public addresses where have you been mining ETH or other coins, at from which pool ?
We can check there how much have you mined and since when and we can asses your professionalism in Mining ourselves.


Just provide public ETH or zec addresses and pools you are connected too.

So, MD101, let's meatup where I'll gladly ram 6cm cock up your loose ass.

Aside: I'm now wondering if MD101 = Dr. Sascha Dennstedt, PhD. Hmmmmmmmmm!


<snip>


quoted for prosperity

hey newbie asshat
your juvenile post says a lot about you.
how old are you anyway, 14?
You are the one making a fool of yourself with moronic posts like that.


Gleb has far more respect around these parts than you could ever hope for in your pathetic exsistance.
Now get back in mommy's basement.

Ha    ha   ha.....


You don't see me penning juvenile posts.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Thanks for the kudos, bud.

Is HM's business money sound [on the surface]? Yes.
Do they have a versed team? Yes.
Has there been inconsistencies in their statements? Yes, albeit minor, but needing addressing nonetheless.
Is thehun a good manager? Yes, with only a tad lacking.
Is due diligence warranted? Yes.
Am I an asshole? ONLY on occasions.

Hahahha now you try to linked me with that fucking advisor guy?
What a fucking lunatic shit.

Why don’t you say I’m your fucking mum? I’m your old dad coming from graveyard
Replied back to your fucking stupid post.

And why  the fuck I’m the one that make you fucking used that squirt shit dick head uncivilised language? I’m fucking post a comment after your fucking crazy rant .

What a pathetic guy, trying to blame everyone for the stuff he did on his own


Like the likes of ...

To join in on the negativity here. The bounty campaign run by Amazix was under all standards possible, they changed the rules AFTER the ICO was finished. Nothing about this project says proffesionall.
Did you just fucking report my post your little twat?
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU LITTLE COCK SUKCER BOUNTY HUNTER
833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 04, 2017, 12:27:18 AM
What is wrong with this retard detective.
Are you fucking stupid?
That guy already answer everything,

It is just your ego that you didn’t want to admit you in a wrong spot. Dickhead

Just fly to that damm country and visit them face to face and stop being a keyboard warrior .


Can I puff on what you're smokin'?

"Can you provide us with the ETH public addresses where have you been mining ETH or other coins, at from which pool ?"

TBC, for obviously you're slow, the above has never been addressed here, for I've read this entire thread and failed to see it answered.

What a moron old fag.
Why the fuck they have to show you what they have mine before starting the project?
That is their own shit. Even before the project begin.

Doesn’t make sense, they don’t even have to do that. And reveal it to public.

Just because you can’t find any other unanswer question you ask some stupid shit huh?
That guy clearly didn’t read all your fucking stupid post with all that fucking uncivilised language, nobody gonna fucking entertain you with that shit.


What else you gonna ask? Where the fuck they got their money? What bank they fucking use? How much money they have in their bank account?


Don’t be a fucking idiot and admit that you clearly so fucking stupid with your delusional detective play that fucking so stupid and so emotional with all that ads hominem and shit.

Just keep being a keyboard warrior shit and play detective okay. You think you so good with that, but clearly you just make fool of yourself in this thread.

Mods must have warned you huh with all the ads hominem, abusive and swear word? No wonder you become a good kids in here. Scare your account to get banned? Hahaha

Now I remember when and why I started cussing like a motherfuckin sailor and saying that Nicole's a squirter. It was because of your posts, you fuckin cocksucker.

Here's the deal, your fuckin retard. All a mod - ANY MOD - has to do is to show definitive proof that I was warned about posting vulgar in this thread and theymos has my permission to ban all my user accounts including this one.

Translated: I opted to end vulgarity on my own accord AND a mod NEVER told be to stop doing such.

That outta way, ASSHOLE, Sascha wouldn't have found that question penned by me if he had read my posts up to the one above the fold because ... WAIT FOR IT FUCKIN MORON - it wasn't I who asked it. It was Magincune500 at the beginning of the thread prior to HydroMiner ever cam on my radar ...

So you guys say that most of you are experiences in Mining since 2014, including CEO and CTO , nice sounding position names.

Can you provide us with the ETH public addresses where have you been mining ETH or other coins, at from which pool ?
We can check there how much have you mined and since when and we can asses your professionalism in Mining ourselves.


Just provide public ETH or zec addresses and pools you are connected too.

So, MD101, let's meatup where I'll gladly ram 6cm cock up your loose ass.

Aside: I'm now wondering if MD101 = Dr. Sascha Dennstedt, PhD. Hmmmmmmmmm!


<snip>


quoted for prosperity

hey newbie asshat
your juvenile post says a lot about you.
how old are you anyway, 14?
You are the one making a fool of yourself with moronic posts like that.


Gleb has far more respect around these parts than you could ever hope for in your pathetic exsistance.
Now get back in mommy's basement.

Ha    ha   ha.....


You don't see me penning juvenile posts.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Thanks for the kudos, bud.

Is HM's business money sound [on the surface]? Yes.
Do they have a versed team? Yes.
Has there been inconsistencies in their statements? Yes, albeit minor, but needing addressing nonetheless.
Is thehun a good manager? Yes, with only a tad lacking.
Is due diligence warranted? Yes.
Am I an asshole? ONLY on occasions.
834  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 03, 2017, 10:57:26 PM
with reading all comments of your topic, I can conclude that I'm more confused

You're confused? Upon exiting puberty, I thought that when I first have sex, the instructions will be my gal's ear where we'll connect up. Now upon watching vids, I see dudes putting it inside everything else besides the girls' ears. Like seriously, the poopy hole?  Huh
835  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 03, 2017, 05:33:48 PM
Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.
The Earth is motionless and the Michelson & Morley experiment proves this. This is corroborated by Airy's Failure experiment that also failed to detect any motion.

So, the Earth is a motionless disc with a dome, and at some point between the Earth and top of the dome is the sun and moon circling the Earth tens of miles up. Did I miss anything?

Full disclosure: I honestly believe that 911 was in inside job. I only have slight doubts that we went to the moon. And Oswald didn't hit Kennedy with three shots (even kinda doubt with one). And Trump's an idiot! There is no Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster.
836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] HydroMining | Green Mining, environmentally friendly and profitable on: December 03, 2017, 05:06:19 PM
What is wrong with this retard detective.
Are you fucking stupid?
That guy already answer everything,

It is just your ego that you didn’t want to admit you in a wrong spot. Dickhead

Just fly to that damm country and visit them face to face and stop being a keyboard warrior .


Can I puff on what you're smokin'?

"Can you provide us with the ETH public addresses where have you been mining ETH or other coins, at from which pool ?"

TBC, for obviously you're slow, the above has never been addressed here, for I've read this entire thread and failed to see it answered.
837  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: TheBitGoldMine is a SCAM !!! on: December 03, 2017, 04:56:42 PM
Also, the person in the picture is not "Founder Mike Finley", but Genesis Mining CEO Marco Streng.
See also https://cointelegraph.com/news/life-inside-a-bitcoin-mine-interview-with-genesis-minings-marco-streng


Holy fuckin shit, bud! I've never been highly critical of Genesis Mining, but given the above, I now no longer trust them.

How did you come to the conclusion that this scam is run by genesis mining?

Yes there is a picture of the CEO of genesis mining on their site but they could have literally used anyone's photo. Now i'm not saying genesis mining is a good investment or whatever, their plans are probably not going to make you any money as a investment. But this isn't reason to say that they aren't trustworthy with your money or whatever.

Site looks fake af, and so are their "team". Avoid.

Hey, maybe we just made the whole shit up or watched the video on their site depicting Mike Finley aka Marco Streng selling his snake oil. You decide.

hey Gleb!!look what i found
 ...i knew that pic looked familiar!!

it's the Bitcoin Cloud Services scammers  (i actually had a contract with em back in the day and actually made a profit before they pulled exit scam!!)
 ...and as i remember they listed an address in London


https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/exclusive-possible-500000-bitcoin-cloud-mining-ponzi-scheme-uncovered-1433546738/



LMFAO!!


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Further, the pictures of a supposed mining facility on the Bitcoin Cloud Services website contain no information about the mining facility or its owners besides a single banner hanging in the background. Compare to the photo below from Genesis Mining showing CEO Marco Streng in one of the company's mining farms.


Editor's Note: This photo of Genesis Mining CEO Marco Streng is provided courtesy of Genesis Mining and provided for comparison and reference only. Genesis Mining is not connected to Bitcoin Cloud Services in any way.
838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] LASER Escrow Technology Changing Smart Contracts as Whole on: December 02, 2017, 11:35:34 PM

Keep an eye out for the upcoming BORR/ETH pair brought to you by BorrowConnect.io.
839  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: December 02, 2017, 11:31:16 PM

Travel 4000 years ago and ask the cientists of that time. They already knew the truth.



"Og, here, from Java-Tech (Berkie). Yes, the Earth is flat."
840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO][ECH] Ethconnect - LENDING | STAKING | TRADING in Best Platform on: December 02, 2017, 11:27:21 PM
hey so Lending is up and running and ECH is worth USD$5.00 per token.

I haven't actually lent anything as yet though....I was gonna wait til someone else went first!! haha...i'll do it tonight when i get back to my desk again



I wish I was a retard so that I would have a desk to get back to.  Cry Cry Cry

hahaha nice payout Gleb, love your originality in these threads.

Why on earth do you troll these HYIP threads in the first place?

If people wanna risk their money who the hell are you to stop them?

Why don't you stand out front of a casino calling people 'retards' given that everyone in there is throwing their money down the toilet?

ONLY in a retard's mind does showing that an entity is a scam from the get-go = trolling.

Please exit the gene pool before you harm somebody.

Very good.

I understand the good will you are intending in trying to stop people from investing money into scams and that is actually quite noble and kind natured of you, it seems like you genuinely have peoples interest at heart.

The only criticism I have is the way you go about this.  I am sure you will find people are more receptive to what you have to say if you soften your approach rather than going full on with "hey retards, dont invest in xyz scam".

Just a a bit of helpful advice. 

"You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"


True... he has good advice but the way he talks to people is not ok...
This can be a big scam but if u can make a bit of fast money why not...?

Dude, my sentiment was echoed myriad times in civil manners having the same effect - retards still gave their money to scammers who'll later come back here asking for help from those who warned them. Since I was attacked for spreading the same word, I opted to use whatever language I feel like using when posting, resulting in retards still giving their money away.

I bet you can't name the one crypto entity that didn't misappropriate one satoshi. Can you? I'll give you a hint. It was the very first charity in the crypto space (now defunct). The dude who founded it is a legend in this space.

Fair point.

I suppose it must feel like you are banging your head on a brick wall really when it comes to warning people because they just keep coming in droves!

Me included however I wont be coming here to whinge and complain when my money is lost as I'm well aware it's only a matter of time.

As for the entity that did not misappropriate funds...I have no idea but I would like to know that honest people exist in this space.  Why is the charity now defunct?



The charity simply ran its course. It was called Bitcoin100. It was founded by me. I purposely did not have access to any of the funds to bestow trust in the entity, handing over the private keys to Roger Ver and Rassah, the latter handling all the money with Roger Ver being the backup in case of a proverbial bus accident. All moneys left account at its end were proportionally returned to initial donators sans a single complaint or issue. Some of the charities we endowed still haven't touched the bitcoins sent them while still amassing more. How would you like to be sitting a free 100 BTC today given to you years ago.

Look, guys, I may come across as an asshole at times, but in real life, I'm a great guy, which can be verified by all crypto dudes who've met me in person at conferences et al. It's just that I get a major hard-on when it comes to nefarious entities/actors.

Hey thanks for sharing, I have a newfound respect for you and what you do and I totally understand where you are coming from.   I am sorry that i post in all these HYIP threads as I have money invested in them and I do this for a couple of reasons.

Although I know EthConnect/Bitconnect etc to be a ponzi of some description, it is a bit of a game for me to put some money in and see how far I get. It's a bit of an escape from my normal work day.  I also realise that most people who invest in these schemes are generally quite greedy and get a bit carried away.  I was like that in the past and got burnt bigtime by Scrypt.cc if you recall that one?

Anyway, because I figure there is no way to stop these schemes from popping up, I sort of take the angle where I invest in them and then aim to caution others about the risks involved.  I figure I can't stop people investing but I can atleast educate them to only invest a small amount and to also ensure they try and recoup their initial investments rather than just pumping in more and more and then losing everything when the site collapses.

So apologies if our ideals don't align exactly but I do understand your view totally and I am on your side even though i partake in these schemes.

Hope that makes sense??



FWIW you're not one of those assholes on my radar (the list is short). You're all cool, bud, and thanks, too, for the insight.

With the exception of a tad amount of ETH (0.05048195), I'm not invested in any alts.
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