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821  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 04, 2016, 11:54:08 AM
As for the extra staking, with paycoin they were able to say that certain addresses taked more than other addresses, those were the prime controllers and whatnot.

Copying that to the new coin could be possible.
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 03, 2016, 02:03:11 PM
Ok, so Atoms create Electrons and Electrons electrify stakers. Where does that extra staking power come from? Kinda like no, exactly like, Garzas red rocket. Where did that extra hash power magically come from? It didn't exist. Just wondering how staking power can be increased for an "electrified" period of time.

Am I to assume that the "team" is going to put the majority of the pre-mine into Masternodes? That the only way I can see electrifying stakers happening. So all of these "bounty" coins and what not will be in Masternodes making free coins for the "team"? Is an escrow going to be holding those coins to ensure they are not used by the "team"?

If I was them I'd want to add anonymity features to the coin, so that it couldn't be traced by people on bitcointalk...

Oh...

If anonimity was important then they would have used Monero. Dash and Blackcoin were used because of other useful features. Anonimity is just a waste of energy imo.

So it seems that anonymity is not a feature that the team was looking for, so why in the hell do they refuse to answer questions then? To me it looks like they want to be anonymous with no rwaponsibility for people's losses.

I'll ask for the third time: any hard numbers for the ICO and any addresses for us to analyze?

Total sold 2,625,055 / 5,000,000. This is publicly available on www.ionomy.com. Questions about addresses, that is up to the team whether they make that publicly available.

How much of that was from worthless xpy being exchanged (they are worthless because they are burning them, right?)

How much of that is what they are giving themselves for doing the hard work of copying another coin?
823  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cryptsy Hack Resolution - 3rd dispatch posted on: May 03, 2016, 02:01:39 PM
Now more than ever I would love to see what "proof" cryptsy saw to believe this guy was more than a troll.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MLB Baseball predictions thoughts about this on: May 03, 2016, 05:01:52 AM
If you are going to do this you should be transparent with your record and how much you have won or lost.

Also, say specifically what you are betting on, because things can change over time. Braves/Mets U is meaningless. Betting 1 unit to win .91 units that the Braves/Mets will go under 7.5 (or betting 1 unit to win 1.24 that it will go under 7, depending on when you bet) tells what is actually happening and makes sure people can make the same bets as you.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +72% ROI on: May 03, 2016, 04:48:19 AM
Money line bets (especially on favorites) are going to make this process a lot harder because you need to bet more than 20 to win back the 10 that you lost because the refs are blind and the spurs missed that last shot.
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +65% ROI on: May 02, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
That's why picking games is hard. toronto didn't care that you (or anyone else) needed them to win by 6.5, they only needed to win by 1.

Good luck with the tennis.
827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: May 02, 2016, 01:47:51 PM
Well, it's been over ten days now and still no sign of the mythical Singapore business registration for either Ionomy PTE or XPY.io. Once again, I'm not claiming this is scam but it certainly doesn't reflect well on your business practices if you claim in your terms and conditions to be operating as a registered business and no such business actually appears to exist in any formal way.

With just over two weeks to go there's just a hair under half of the ICO coins remaining, which I suppose is a decent measure of the level of trust people have in this project.

But, but, but there's a lot of people on Slack! One user popped up to give some sass to a user about something like that. They will pop up here to defend but answer one of the lingering questions? Nah, we don't deserve that. They've been scammed before, they are not automatically trustworthy.

They've also now started up the 'iontalk' forum, which seems to be a direct replacement for hashtalk/talkXPY to allow the community to discuss ions with as little outside influence as possible.

I'm somewhat confused as to why, if this is indeed a legitimate venture, they seem to feel they will be successful unless they address the numerous causes for concern head on. In reality I feel that they're limiting their potential reach by allowing rumour and conjecture to circulate unaddressed.

Because they need to keep the true believers away from us trolls and fudders. It's our fault that GAW and paycoin failed. It wasn't the fact that hashlets didn't exist or that the $20 floor was impossible, it was the fact that we told everyone that to cut off cash flow to the ponzi.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: May 01, 2016, 03:14:32 AM
WoW on this! I am going to start to watch this thread more closely if you get this last pick to win. At $45 risk @ 1.9 odds that is a good haul on just one bet without any other games on the docket.
Brave man right there.
I wonder how much above poster put on this one out of his own pocket? $1 or maybe $5.
Good for you CarlesPuyol for showing how much balls you really have with a bet like that on a game 1 even!  Grin

You should thank sloane stephens for blowing a set in her tennis match earlier.

Glad it's working out but imploring you to stop again.
829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
If the pick is so great why would you change the amount based on how this pick goes?
I think I didn't understand the question.
The amount doubles after each loss. That's why I change it.

I know that's what you are doing, I am trying to figure out WHY you are doing that.

If the NBA pick is so great, shouldn't you bet more on it regardless of how tennis goes?

Your system says the pick is worth 40 if Sloane Stephens loses and worth 5 if she wins, when that tennis match has absolutely nothing to do with how good a pick the nba pick is.

Phildo you are absolutely right in your words.
I'm almost 4 years in sports betting, and tried dozens of methods. This is the first time I try martingaling and I think its worth this chance. If I lose, I lose total of about 0.3BTC, which is affordable to me, and I consider this amount as a small investment.


OK, as long as you say you are aware of the risks and other people are too. I suggest switching to something else before disaster strikes, you have padded your bankroll here quite a bit. If you are good at betting on sports you don't need this method.
830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
He haven't lost 5 times in a row until now, I haven't also, thats why he can fully back this system as the majority of the picks will come out as wins in the end, and thats where this system come to play, you win more and if you win you start from your initial bet.

He has not lost 5 in a row and I don't think he will soon so take profit, thats the main advice.

If you lost 5 in a row picking as heavy favorites as you do you wouldn't be smart enough to log into this forum.

the system has been proven wrong over and over again. this "great pick"/tennis combo is the perfect time to point out the flaw in the system. Why would you let the result of a tennis game impact how much money you are going to make on your great basketball  pick? It just doesn't make sense.

Hopefully people can see this before they get the great idea to try this and lose everything.
Since I'm following his bets, my plan was to skip the tennis pick and instead bet on the "great NBA pick" instead, since he feels confident about it.

Your post kinda contradicts your 2 statements:
He haven't lost 5 times in a row until now, I haven't also, thats why he can fully back this system as the majority of the picks will come out as wins in the end, and thats where this system come to play, you win more and if you win you start from your initial bet.

He has not lost 5 in a row and I don't think he will soon so take profit, thats the main advice.

If you lost 5 in a row picking as heavy favorites as you do you wouldn't be smart enough to log into this forum.
Basically, your saying that it would be hard to lose 5 in a row picking favourites. Wouldn't it then be profitable to maritangle on favourites? Obviously you need to change the bet amount to reflect the odds, like a 10x instead of doubling, but it seems profitable. But then you say that the system is bad and won't work:
He haven't lost 5 times in a row until now, I haven't also, thats why he can fully back this system as the majority of the picks will come out as wins in the end, and thats where this system come to play, you win more and if you win you start from your initial bet.

He has not lost 5 in a row and I don't think he will soon so take profit, thats the main advice.
the system has been proven wrong over and over again. this "great pick"/tennis combo is the perfect time to point out the flaw in the system. Why would you let the result of a tennis game impact how much money you are going to make on your great basketball  pick? It just doesn't make sense.

Hopefully people can see this before they get the great idea to try this and lose everything.


5 in a row favorites and 5 in a row heavy favorites are not the same thing.

Carles here is picking bets that are close to 50/50. Supremo picks bets that are closer to 66% chance to win or higher. It is much easier for Calres to lose 5 in a row than for Supremo.

Martingale is bad for -ev bets. Just because a bet is a favorite doesn't mean it is -ev, because of the vig. if you can find some +ev bets, go ahead and martingale to your heart's delight (although you will probably make more money doing some other betting method).
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 07:16:47 PM
He haven't lost 5 times in a row until now, I haven't also, thats why he can fully back this system as the majority of the picks will come out as wins in the end, and thats where this system come to play, you win more and if you win you start from your initial bet.

He has not lost 5 in a row and I don't think he will soon so take profit, thats the main advice.

If you lost 5 in a row picking as heavy favorites as you do you wouldn't be smart enough to log into this forum.

the system has been proven wrong over and over again. this "great pick"/tennis combo is the perfect time to point out the flaw in the system. Why would you let the result of a tennis game impact how much money you are going to make on your great basketball  pick? It just doesn't make sense.

Hopefully people can see this before they get the great idea to try this and lose everything.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 06:33:45 PM
If the pick is so great why would you change the amount based on how this pick goes?
I think I didn't understand the question.
The amount doubles after each loss. That's why I change it.

I know that's what you are doing, I am trying to figure out WHY you are doing that.

If the NBA pick is so great, shouldn't you bet more on it regardless of how tennis goes?

Your system says the pick is worth 40 if Sloane Stephens loses and worth 5 if she wins, when that tennis match has absolutely nothing to do with how good a pick the nba pick is.
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 06:32:05 PM
If the pick is so great why would you change the amount based on how this pick goes?

He must have his own reasons, what should be of interest to you ,me and everyone following this thread is the roi which is a nice +46% in a very few days.  We(I am a tipster myself ,but not giving anymore nothing free) speak based on statistics and so far they are on the tipsters part. Be smart follow this and make yourself some profit.

I'm not going to follow along because I know how martingale ends and am trying to bring some sense into the situation.

It's common sense that you should bet more if you are more competent. Math also backs that. Trying to figure out if he has some other answer besides a system that can't work.

It makes no sense. If he wins 5 in a row he wins 25, if he loses 5 in a row he loses 155, the odds of each happening are very similar. Just trying to see if there's any reasoning besides "i probably won't lose 5 in a row" because I know that reasoning sucks. Bad streaks happens, and the fact that the odds of winning 5 in a row and losing 5 in a row are so similar and the results are so different means that people are not thinking about this logically.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CarlesPuyol is Back trying to build Bankroll in sports betting. Status: +46% ROI on: April 30, 2016, 05:42:19 PM
If the pick is so great why would you change the amount based on how this pick goes?
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: April 30, 2016, 04:14:12 AM
Double-zero roulette has a house edge of 5.26%, single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%, and French roulette (with en prison or la partage rule) has a house edge of 1.35%, all significantly higher than dice. So the best strategy is to avoid roulette and to play on games with lower edge.

your maths is hundred percent right. but please explain the phenomenon that dice apps on moneypot with HE of 0.02% to 0.1% are almost empty or even closed their sites already

there are roulette players who will never touch dice and it does not matter to them how low the HE of a dice site is

yup. people who play on roulette is not about trying to win on the house edge. they just enjoy on the thrill and the excitement of playing on the roulette. however, that does not also mean that they plan to lose too. so we are looking for a better way to play the game.
It's not really an exciting game. It is pretty boring if you ask me. Spin the ball waiting for it to hit a number is really not that impressive.
And playing poker, holding cards in your hand or throwing dice is more thrilling and impressing for you - and looks cooler?
Because gambling is not about visual department being awesome, it is about thrill of the outcome and potential profits you can get.
This is gambling not video game or VR app. If you are so thirsty of visual effect I guess instead of Roulette Slots might be good for you.

i agree with maku, there's no best strategy in roulette.

you better gambling with skill needed like poker or black jack, not gambling like roulette.


edit : roulette is luck gambling
So can you share how is the best strategy in blackjack as i know only a rumour if we can counting a card in blackjack and for counting a card i'm not sure all of that is true.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

This is the correct blackjack strategy. You can click around on that site and find somewhere where you can enter all the specific rules for the game you are playing and get an updated chart, but this should get you close enough.

Note that this strategy doesn't guarantee you will win (nothing can do that, that's why it's called gambling) but it tells you the best option in every scenario in blackjack.
Thanks for sharing, hope we can use this to increase our profit. Although I agree that there is no assurance that this will work bu the fact that we can a find as slight advantage would already do. Thanks mate , seriously..

There are strategies to some gambling games in which you can make choices, if you are going to do any gambling besides crypto-dice and roulette (which have no strategy) do a google search to find out what it is. Asking/looking here is bound to just get you idiots suggesting martingale or posting complete nonsense to get a few pennies from their sig campaign.

Game theory is a thing that exists, people have done the math on these games forever, it's out there and you can ind it if you look.
Yes, I agree with the above poster, there are always a strategy but no one will tell you because they just wanted to keep it by themselves so they would just always experience the winnings. In short, no one will expose a strategy to beat the house otherwise the house will adjust.

That's not what I said.

You can't beat the house, they design the games to make it so  you can't. The only way you CAN beat the house is counting cards in blackjack. It's extremely hard and they will kick you out if they catch you, but the information is out there. And just because you can't beat the house doesn't mean there aren't strategies that will maximize your chances of winning. Those exist and they are out there, you just need to look, and do the math yourself to make sure you don't find an idiotic website like those posted earlier with various roulette "strategies."

If you want to you can do the math to see why hitting a 16 vs a 10 is the "right" move in blackjack. You can do the math to see why you should never bet "the field" in craps and why you should (if you are going to) "place" the 5,6,8,or 9 and "buy" the 4 or 10. It's all math. People have done the math. Most of it is online. the rest of it is in books or a pen and pencil away.
836  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Circle.com says "no fees" but it looks like they mix 1% on top of their spot on: April 30, 2016, 12:34:16 AM
I thought everyone knew that's what "no fees" meant in bitcoin land?
837  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: April 29, 2016, 02:49:45 PM

Yes. I see. You're one more fuckwit who thinks overwhelming the forum with bullshit about who is really who, etc. actually means fuck all. Good luck.

Of course it doesn't ! lol

How else do you plan to recover your shitcoins if we do not find out who these scammers are ?

Paul accidentally reveals one of his alts and everyone decides to stfu.

SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT HERE.

In case you've missed the PSAs, meth will fuck your brain right up. Put down the ice pipe and take a deep breath of fresh air.

Not sure how long you've been in this crypto game, but these coins are long gone. thunderjet and gleb have done a good job of following the trails, but to what end as far as recovery? And something isn't right here? No shit sherlock. People have been pointing that out for a good long while. There's not a lot of mystery... Paul Vernon conspired to steal a bunch of coins. We won't get them back. That sucks. End of story.

Not trying to be a dick, but .96% is less than 1%, do you mean that or 96% chance?

It's really closer to 1% because the whole point of bitcoin is that you can't take coins from someone else. The only reason the government got silk road's coins was because Ross got caught with his pants down and the government got his computer unencrypted and were able to move the coins. The odds of that happening to whoever has these coins now are much lower since they know people are looking for them.

You going wrong dude .96% chance  of recover that fund very easily ( all stolen funds still in BTC most off. ) . 4% chance of no one get any fund back frm cryptsy /Vernon .  court still in views all details of fund . Vern have time to admit ,he is the one who stolen cryptsy user fund /-

it still runing a soft action . soon every fact confirm . Court action become harder . all we know he in china .easy catch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States

Enjoy the post or  keep mumbling negative
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: April 29, 2016, 01:52:00 PM
Double-zero roulette has a house edge of 5.26%, single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%, and French roulette (with en prison or la partage rule) has a house edge of 1.35%, all significantly higher than dice. So the best strategy is to avoid roulette and to play on games with lower edge.

your maths is hundred percent right. but please explain the phenomenon that dice apps on moneypot with HE of 0.02% to 0.1% are almost empty or even closed their sites already

there are roulette players who will never touch dice and it does not matter to them how low the HE of a dice site is

yup. people who play on roulette is not about trying to win on the house edge. they just enjoy on the thrill and the excitement of playing on the roulette. however, that does not also mean that they plan to lose too. so we are looking for a better way to play the game.
It's not really an exciting game. It is pretty boring if you ask me. Spin the ball waiting for it to hit a number is really not that impressive.
And playing poker, holding cards in your hand or throwing dice is more thrilling and impressing for you - and looks cooler?
Because gambling is not about visual department being awesome, it is about thrill of the outcome and potential profits you can get.
This is gambling not video game or VR app. If you are so thirsty of visual effect I guess instead of Roulette Slots might be good for you.

i agree with maku, there's no best strategy in roulette.

you better gambling with skill needed like poker or black jack, not gambling like roulette.


edit : roulette is luck gambling
So can you share how is the best strategy in blackjack as i know only a rumour if we can counting a card in blackjack and for counting a card i'm not sure all of that is true.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

This is the correct blackjack strategy. You can click around on that site and find somewhere where you can enter all the specific rules for the game you are playing and get an updated chart, but this should get you close enough.

Note that this strategy doesn't guarantee you will win (nothing can do that, that's why it's called gambling) but it tells you the best option in every scenario in blackjack.
Thanks for sharing, hope we can use this to increase our profit. Although I agree that there is no assurance that this will work bu the fact that we can a find as slight advantage would already do. Thanks mate , seriously..

There are strategies to some gambling games in which you can make choices, if you are going to do any gambling besides crypto-dice and roulette (which have no strategy) do a google search to find out what it is. Asking/looking here is bound to just get you idiots suggesting martingale or posting complete nonsense to get a few pennies from their sig campaign.

Game theory is a thing that exists, people have done the math on these games forever, it's out there and you can ind it if you look.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: April 29, 2016, 01:48:12 PM
i heard before that is some strategy in roulette by the professional gamblers. however, the general trick they told us were to bet on more number so you will more likely to win. However, i dont really agree with their statement, as the game is always in our disadvantage in probability, by betting more, it is like we even have a higher chance of losing cause we are playing like 100 times in one go instead of one by one. And the more we play, the more we will lose due to disadvantage.

This is correct. If you bet on more numbers, you increase your odds of winning, but you decrease the amount that will win when you do win, and increase the amount that you will lose when you do lose. The end result has the same exact expected value as any other bet/strategy/system you can come up with.
840  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 29, 2016, 01:32:52 PM
So what happens if Josh goes to jail for (20+ years) I hope and ION ends up being half decent or fails and it is evident Josh is not in the picture..what happens then ?

Many of you really have it out for adam, obviously he wasn't involved in any shady shit, he was a victim like many other people but he stepped up with individuals and tried to save it (despite its inevitable doom)...the only one lawyering up is josh.

And you have to give the man respect for not completely abandoning everything crypto after dealing with false accusations and threats..even involving his fucking church. He tried to save investors money that Josh Ran away with and got burned.. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads telling you to invest in ION but let it be...Josh being involved in anything ION is a crazy thought, a lot of you lack logic and are great at hiding behind a screen.

Grow the fuck up, even if the coin fails..don't you pizza face virgin crypto investors believe in something more than destroying each other ?

For a decentralized system brought on by cyberculture to bring power to the people, you are all worse then the middle east and their insatiable need to be savages.


I guess that's nice that he didn't "abandon" crypto, but who gives a shit that he didn't lawyer up? he hasn't given an explanation or his side of things.

Even if he is/was an innocent victim, the fact that his major qualification for running ion is that he got robbed by garza is reason enough or me to stay away.
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