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841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 20, 2017, 06:20:40 PM
Basically, analysis is needed to increase our chance to win at gambling and to ensure that we do not gamble blindly. We must have guidelines ( we can get it by doing some research ) which we believe will bring us to gain some profit even though it will be very difficult.
Yeah for me too when betting on tennis matches I always do a analyse because it tells us that a certain player is quite weak against a certain player.

For example if a match is to be played on clay between Murray and Nadal the odds would always favour Murray while the truth is those are because of his hard court rankings and performance and quite easy to choose Nadal with high odds.
In sports betting without analysis, it is impossible to place our bet. We have some options to play sports betting without doing any analysis. It means taking a suggestion from a tipster. But in this type of betting, you will not get satisfied. So you only analyze and do betting then you will learn more strategies and you will get more fun and if your prediction is correct you can also make money.
842  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: February 16, 2017, 02:58:22 PM
Yes paypal is very strange. I lost many $$ due to their 180 days limit luckily we have bitcoins now to avoid problems.

I don't think they are a scam because if that is true, then they wouldn't have grown to such a huge in an online payment system. As long as if you follow there terms I don't think you will face any issues because I'm using PayPal for almost 13 years and so far never had issues with them. I have done many transactions from big to small amounts.
843  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: February 16, 2017, 02:55:07 PM
According to my opinion Bitcoin is better than PayPal because PayPal have some circumstances/roadblocks
It is not safe when the time comes to transfer a large amount of money
But in future Bitcoin's growth has a bright value in which there is no threat in transfer in money
Also the crypto currency exchange is simpler..
bitcoin is really too much better than paypal because bitcoin paypal is not able to use in many countries and bitcoin is very much useful currency because we can bitcoin in everywhere for online shopping.

But you forgot one important thing that if you want to buy something online from the unknown person you must need to go through always escrow and it will add additional cost and delay purchases. So I always use Paypal to buy online with unknown person and use bitcoins only to trade with trusted people I know them.
844  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: February 16, 2017, 02:52:05 PM
Buy and sell bitcoin needs focus, you need to be always updated on the prices and monitor it. If it is what you are doing every time then you are missing a lot of opportunities and ways to earn more. It is better if you can make your money grow and continue earnings in different ways while monitoring of the prices...

You don't have to focus with it, you just need to simply buy and sell that's it. The focus maybe you are saying is upon seeing the price, so if you think that the price is already good for buying just buy it and that's very simple. And we don't have too do some daily monitoring upon buying bitcoins, we just need to let it hold for a longer time.
If you do it for long term investment only, but most of us here are doing it for short term also. With the way the price of bitcoin move, day traders have to properly monitor the price movement so they can get the right timing to buy and sell.

I can say, being a day trader is a hard job but it gives greater return constantly if you will be able to do your job. Long term investment is only good if you have a big amount to save, however, not all of use can afford to raise a good amount.

Actually I end up forgetting myself to be a day trader because I don't have enough time for monitoring it. And it is why I preferred to do long term trades and I've been getting profit from it for so many times because I do have some spare money. If you are not the same with situation you surely need to be a day trader.

But as per me, day trading is almost as a gambling and results depend only on luck, so I never go for day trading instead always choose to go with long term trading and so far made a decent profit. In day trading many experts have lost a lot of money in trading so one should be very careful while doing day trading.
845  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 16, 2017, 02:49:17 PM
What is your exit point? Where will you sell your coins? How much % of your stack will you sell?
I don't think that this is the better time to sell our bitcoin im waitingn for the right time that bitcoin will increase again into the or up to 1200+ im earning for now ans holding them all to sell next year maybe .

I think it all depends on what price one has brought their BTC. Because for me if I make around 20 to 30% profit in the short term then I will sell some of BTC and again at a slightly lower price. I don't fix exact value for BTC to reach. But I will keep around 30% of my BTC for longer term profit and rest of them I will sell when reach my above target.
846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you choose casino to play? on: February 16, 2017, 02:06:07 PM
Hi guys!
Everyone in Oshi including myself is very curious how do you choose the casino to play in?
What's the most important to you? Bonuses? Or something else?
For me personally it's the website's design and the number of games offered. 
The important for me when im playing in casino is the players this is where i based how can you enjoyed the game if the players are countable and less players, Second is the design and the balance of the casino. 3rd one is the bonuses and free chips whenever we are going to visit the game site Smiley

beside of enjoy the game in a sites, we need to thinking that about what games that we want to play and for this reason, we need to choose the best site which have a good rep and have good service for their member like fast confirming transaction or have minimal deposit to play. i think the other reason is i am agree Kotone said that bonuses and free chips is the other factor that i am choose when i want to playing gambling.
For me fast transaction either it may be deposit BTC or withdraw BTC. Some sites will take a long time to confirm our transaction. And the design of casino it should be user-friendly, and I need more games to play. Slot and sports betting both I want to one site. And bonus and free chips are good to attract players. The site should be very fast to access in mobile and system.
847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: February 16, 2017, 02:01:13 PM
If i do have the money then i would rather choose investment rather than on playing gambling since i do know that the risk on lossing money on playing gambling is very high unlike on investment it may have risk too but you could able to lessen the risk if you do know how to handle those investment.
Good choose, you cannot guarantee that can win in gambling and once you have lost you cannot back any money but in investing (trading) there is a possibility that you can grow your money and even you lost you will still get money but it's low. All you need is to learn how to trade to avoid losing money.
I think in investing, we will not lose more money like gambling. in gambling once we lost it is very hard to gain back that loss. I this process we have a chance to lose some more money. But in investing it is not like that we will get a chance to gain back our loss. And it is a bit late process, but the result is good to compare gambling.
848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 16, 2017, 01:57:42 PM
If  do have some premium tips then I will test it out to bet that particular game im ready on what would be the consequence if I do such act.The boring thing on this one is you don't have any idea regarding on the game which is really boring unlike on having a knowledge on betting a sport because you will surely enjoy it while watching on the team you put your bet.

Its just hoping for something we don't know, trying only our luck . Though lot of times I did such thing and still doing it. Betting from the influence of friends and trying out also if it will be a chance to win. Though I didn't win yet but maybe tomorrow is the day since I bet today.
Actually chances are still 50-50 even you don't know the game and you just blindly bet there would be a chance that we do win on a particular bet since chances are big between among options but the advantage that you do know the sport is you know which one is the right team to bet which make us somehow confident on those.
I am not sure that premium tips will give you 100% result. There are many gamblers buy this premium tips, but I don't have any personal experience. Because no one will guess 100% result in any format of the game. Everyone will predict just based on their sports experience. Know in all format of games we are getting unexpected results so how can they predict 100% result. If they give you low odds betting options, then it is no use because the return you will get very less. So my suggestion bets only on known games.
849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Just asking on: February 16, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
i am visiting in the sites and i think that the site is heavy loading with large image size because its still loading to completed the process, i think i need 30 second to completed. the site have casino, sports, slots, 4D and before we can playing games in that site, we need to make an account. i think the site is related with Brunei Darussalam which is a country in Asia because i see in the bottom of the site, they have link to an account in that country but i am not sure for this. maybe i will try later but i need to make sure it will safe for me to trying to playing the games.
Yup, i also visited this site, and it will take the time to open website. And the options are a bit different like 4D games and slots games. I tried to log in, but the site went down. Don't entertain unknown sites and without knowing this full site, information doesn't do any betting activity on this site. And I am not sure that they will accept Bitcoin or not.
850  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 14, 2017, 02:06:20 PM
What is your exit point? Where will you sell your coins? How much % of your stack will you sell?
I don't think that this is the better time to sell our bitcoin im waitingn for the right time that bitcoin will increase again into the or up to 1200+ im earning for now ans holding them all to sell next year maybe .
Above $1000 is a good measure to sell our bitcoin with the assumption it will get a little dump soon. But if you're not a trader and just hold your money in your wallet. Just holding is not better for those people are looking into more money.

right now things are not clear, which makes any kind of trade that much riskier. selling above $1000 and buying around $995 may be profitable these days but because of the situation with China, the FUD and then the ETF and also the fact that price is "kept down" you never know which way price is going to go in short term.
I think to invest $995 to make just 10 or $20 profit is not worth. We are spending huge amount, and the returns are very less. So this is not the time to buy coins, but if you are holding coins fro long time means when the price is below $500, then this is a good time to sell your coins. Don't expect more you will get double profit. But if you recently buy coins when it crossed $900 then wait for some time to cross BTC price $1200.
851  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: February 14, 2017, 01:58:57 PM
Well, you can't compare them because they are two different things. Bitcoin is a currency and paypal is a payment service. For buying things online, i prefer using paypal as more online merchant i use accept paypal as the payment method, only a few accept bitcoin. But i prefer bitcoin to send fund and as a form of investment.

why your say bitcoin and paypal is difference,
paypal and bitcoin not diference is same digital curency can payment online, but youre true many store online is accepted paypal use payment , because paypal is complete regulation and supported feture dispute so many store online is prefered to use paypal
and many make money online prefered use bitcoin because is easy use and can grow capital money, is same digital curency but difference customer and client

Well both bitcoin and paypal can fuction as means of payment, but bitcoin have another use which is a form of investment where paypal can't therefore i said bitcoin and paypal is difference. One have advantages to the other, Paypal has the popularity with online merchant, bitcoin has less transaction fee. For me paypal is better rightnow, but if more merchant which i use accept bitcoin, then things can change.

Yes, the fact is right that PayPal is not a currency and Bitcoin is. But we are considering the terms of usage. PayPal is used by allot of countries and Bitcoin has now gained the popularity more than PayPal. It is about usability and transaction fees, which is comparatively low in Bitcoin.
But we also know that the wallet of the bitcoin are the type of payment processors they send money from one person to another like paypal and other payment processors. So if someone is comparing between paypal and bitcoin then they are talking about the transaction system of bitcoin through which we pay for goods and services like paypal.

If we are talking about bitcoin and paypal as a payment system, i still prefer paypal for buying things because PayPal provides buyer protection so i feel safer when i want to buy something. I prefer bitcoin for sending funds to friends or family because of lower fee ( i don't mind it arrived much later).

Well bitcoin got a good protection too but Paypal is widely used. That is the real reason I keep on using it. Bitcoin accepting online stores have limited items on their websites so sometimes you could not see the item you are looking for.
You would need to go to another online store and see that they only accept Paypal as an online payment. This is the real problem now for bitcoin and somehow Paypal wins in that.
yeah this is worst case scenario about bitcoin. but usage of bitcoin is increasing new shops, and online marketing started accepting bitcoin, Payeer also added bitcoin into its payment systems, so anywhere Payeer is accepted than bitcoin is accepted too.

not only payeer and online shops are on the use of bitcoin but any business and any company related to any field of life which when come to know about the benefits of bitcoin for themselves immediately come to adopt it for their usage and for their customers in order to get the all the benefit from bitcoin. They also know that with the adoption of bitcoin their business will be able to accessed all over the world.
If any issues we found I PayPal transaction we have customer support to solve that issue. But in Bitcoin transaction that facility we don't have, if any issues we found in BTC transaction it is very complicated to solve that problem. And PayPal also not user friendly for sellers there are a lot of restriction to do business with PayPal. So I am confused which is better.
852  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: February 14, 2017, 01:50:24 PM
It is very easy to increase bitcoin, just by it with your cash.
I think he is referring on how to increase btc by means of working with it not just by buying. if you already have capital, better try how to trade but make sure to educate first yourself on how things work. its not going to be easy and also risky but give it a try. if you became a good trader you will earn for sure.
If you already have capital then try to avoid trading ,try to to invest in legit projects.you can also invest in exchange shares though you will get less profit as its long time investment but a safer one.
If you have capital then you should invest your money in trading. But first you start with a small amount. Try it for atleast 1 or 2 months to gain experience and then you will be ready to increase your bitcoins. But entering trading without getting ready will land you into gambling in the name of trading.
The OP is asking how to increasing BTC without buying with fiat currency. And if you are ready to buy Bitcoins then for you no need other methods to increase your BTC I think you are a rich kid. For me, if you are a senior member are more you can earn Bitcoin from the signature campaign. And you have small capital you can double your capital with trading. Have big capital with the investment you can increase your BTC.
853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: February 14, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
When trading What Matters More Skills or Luck?
we can always use the skills we have, but we can not lucky every time. Trading depend on luck is such as gambling, most of novice trader and gambler is do this, we can gain trading skills from online courses or seminars or the like.
For me, the trading requires both luck and skills. And if you ask me percentage I will give 30 for luck and 70 for skills. Not everytime your skills will work we need some luck to make a profit in trading. And it is not full depends on luck like gambling. Without having proper knowledge, you can not start trading. So for me, both luck and skills have equal weightage in trading.
854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving bitcoins on: February 13, 2017, 02:24:17 PM
I do not understand why you ask questions like that, you should be researched more about Bitcoin. Currently, the world does not have any online banking, you can not save in banks Bitcoin. There are plenty of places for you to send money to and receive profits, however, all of them are HYIP and PONZI,they are created to scam. I advise you not to participate in it, because you could lose all the money you invested in it. Don't participate!

Not all of them are HYIP and PONZI schemes. You can invest in a casino's bankroll and make a small profit out of it, but that's risky too. Or you can lend your money to someone and get back more than you sent which is, again, profitable but risky. To save your money you can be your own bank and save it on paper wallets.

Investing into something other than banks is always risk, if you are ready to face risk than you have freedom to make any type of investment you want.Like lending, gambling, trading etc every where risk involved so you need to be very careful when investing into those. Better start saving your money in banks or bitcoin, but when compared to banks bitcoin will give more profit.

That's right saving money in banks will give you limited amount of returns and you won't be satisfied with that outcome but if you have saved your money in bitcoins then it can give you better returns as the price of bitcoins keeps on moving up and down so when it reaches to the peak you can sell your bitcoins to make more money out of it.

Saving money in the bank will give less satisfaction, but this is safe our investment will not go down, and at least we will get some interest for our investment. The bitcoin saving will give you huge profit, but only if the price goes up. We don't have any trust on bitcoin price it may go up or go down. When you must need money that time if the price down means will you sell your coins? It's loss am I right. So invest only your extra money in bitcoin then you will not face any problem.
855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 13, 2017, 02:14:03 PM
No, it doesn't make sense, if you have small bankroll, you can't profit a lot, if you are clever and lucky enough, investing in altcoins is the best way to make 10X, 100X, but invest on casinos, or gambling yourself, is more difficult than altcoin investment.

Gambling investment means not gambling but investing in casino bankrolls. To invest in any casino bankrolls, one should always start with small amounts until they understand how these investment works and slowly they can increase their investments over the time. If you want to gamble then even with big bankrolls also no guaranty of making a profit because you need only luck to make money from gambling.

Correct, in gambling, the investment does not matter only your luck and skills matter. If you have knowledge and luck, you can make a profit in gambling. But investment is no like that we need to learn a lot of things. And it will take some time to become a pro in investment. And you should have market knowledge, and you should have the skill to know how the casino sites are running. Becasue your profit depends on casino profit. And if you are a beginner in investing yes the small amount will help you to learn more about investing. 
856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: February 13, 2017, 02:09:05 PM
I think sports betting is the best one to choose if you have a lot money and wants to play gambling, especially if you love a sports.
What I like besides I love sports too, the result is not rely on luck only, your ability to analyze the match be in effect.
That is true if you love sports then you can make a lot of money with it as there are multiple of events daily and you could enter a safe bet most of the time and i made some profits with it and made some losses too and the most profit i managed to win till now is through dice and i am not an addicted player but once in a while i do roll.
You are a lucky person, so you managed to make a profit in a dice game. Useally players lose more money in dice game including me. I never made a profit in a dice game. But this game will give more fun. I will play sports betting to earn some money. I like sports and have more knowledge on some sports so if the events is more I will get more chance to make money. And till today I made money in only skill games.
857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: February 13, 2017, 02:04:33 PM
Actually if you are martingale gamblers, you will realize martingale betting system is the worst wrong strategy in gambling, most people end up with it, because they have insufficient fund. It requires a huge bankroll, if you have 100000 btc, it can be a huge profitable daily revenue.
I use martingale but I never think it is a wrong method, there are plenty of method that can be use in gambling but what is important is you will have to implement it in a right time and the right game. Using this method in dice, it will only give you a temporary win because there is not method that will work in a game where there is a house advantage.
The martingale method is not wrong,  but it is a more risky method. Yup, we need a big capital to use this method and also we can not implement this method in a dice game. The dice game is purely luck base game and without having sufficient fund don't try this method in dice and any slot games. But in skill games, we can implement and make money from this method. For this, you should be a pro in skill games.
858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New casino vs old and trusted one on: February 13, 2017, 02:00:39 PM
the old casinos that are considered trustworthy today were all new and with no trust once. they all built their trust up over time.

in my opinion we still have room for more casinos and more games. although some of the games which have many players such as dice are full, and a new casino with those games will have hard time becoming famous.

but if they start newer games, and if they can make the new games interesting enough for people to play them, they can easily grow and grow fast.
It is hard to trust new casino's, but if they come up with new games and some new offers to players, then those casino's will improve very fast. And players requirement is easy to play and less house edge. First one they will give but second one bit tough. If they provide this facility, then more players show interest to play on their sites. I trust old casinos and also I will encourage new casinos with a good reputation in the beginning.
859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Is Your Worst Moment in Gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Though I prefer to gamble with small amount the circle around me insisted to go for a bigger amount, so that can earn good. Without going with my decision and moving based on others decision because of the greed made me loss the entire amount in single event which I earned little by little from several events having very low odds.
risking small amounts on playing gambling would somehow lessen the risk of getting broke in the end on playing gambling and instead of listening to others its better to play on our own.Greedines does really comes no matter what because its part of our human nature.

But sometimes even if you lose a small amount but you play many times and have same result, it also made a gambler upset. Just what happened to me. I play 0.01btc each day and loss it for 1 week. When i sum up my loss, that time i realize that i loss too much and regret of it. Hahaha
I will also not amount small amount if I count that amount it may be more than what you lost for one week. But I will not feel bad because I spent money to have fun and I will enjoy the games. I will not play for money so that loss will not make me sad.
860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how to choose hi or lo in dice games ? what you have in mind when you gamble ? on: February 10, 2017, 12:34:40 PM
this can be a fun thread
let me explain what the subject is ...

dice as gambling game is the most popular game for bitcoin/altcoin ecosystem.
but it has some unique properties never found in other classic gambling games.
no matter what is the payout/chance you bet on or the amount ,most critical
decision you can make is to choose  --- Hi(gher) or Lo(wer) than .. blah blah

so i welcome all of you to share your thoughts about how you are making that choice ?
since it is a game usually we play for 1000s of rolls each session you may leave this
decision to autobet or gambling scripts/bots or (..reply how..)  Grin

Elias.C.

PS:i will share my thoughts here too but i am too shy to start first.  Roll Eyes

Well first time i played dice games, i don't do autobets and i eagerly wait for the next roll. As it goes on, it gets a bit tiring so i just randomly click roll without thinking anymore and honestly, I win more rolls that way than when I think about what to do. I don't know I just think luck plays games on you when you think too much about it.
Yup I also don't know this autobet method when I started to play dice game. I enjoyed manual betting, and this is good we can choose our numbers, and it is more profitable than autobet. And when I know about autobet I played few times but met many loses in this method. So now I will not play this method only manual I feel this method is lucky for me.
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