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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: March 10, 2017, 02:53:07 PM
If you trade without analysis then your are like gambling hoping for lucky winnings and seek good profitable wins. Actually you can't consider trading as gambling because in gambling you usually lose but in trading profit is always higher and possibility is there always.
In your last sentence you are resembling trading to gambling by considering both as a source of income but actually in gambling we do not need to think about the profit because it is not a source of profit but it is a source of entertainment and anyone who will come here will seek for entertainment while in trading we have to think about earning money.
Yes the gambling is not the source of income it's source of entertainment, But many people will make gambling source of revenue, and they lose money. Trading is completely a business here no fun and entertainment. Use your skills and think how to double your investment. Trade with right people and make a profit. This is completely a money making process. So here trading and gambling both are not equal.
762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What type of sports you love in sports betting and why? on: March 10, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
In sports, my favorite sport is matches, i like cricket to play and to watch, that's why it is easy to me to predict and judgment about matches and in this way, many time i won in betting. I am sure, if we know about any sports than should do betting, because it help to win in sports betting.   
From my experience cricket is much more famous than any other sport in the Asian countries while in the European countries people prefer to gamble much more on tennis, soccer, baseball, etc. Specially, in USA baseball is very popular.

I love all the sports since I watch almost all of them but one sport that I am falling in love recently is darts, simple yet very acute and easy to win.

All sports are very exit to watch, but only national games will give us more fun. IN my country cricket and tennis both are very famous and I love to bet on these games. Football lovers also there but people do not watch more football games. I will bet on more cricket game I will get more options and regularly the events will happen. If I made any money in gambling, it comes from sports betting.
763  Economy / Economics / Re: why is it so hard to buy bitcoin on: March 09, 2017, 07:07:53 PM
Because i don't have money prize is too high, 1 BTC is even over my monthly income. Its better to invest on altcoins mining

Exactly, due to the high price of bitcoin it is very difficult to buy bitcoins for trading purpose. And trading of altcoins is the best option, you can invest small amount and you have a chance to get double profit it depends on which altcoin you choose for.trading.

The main reason is the price of Bitcoin is so high, and it is tough to buy 1 BTC for a normal person. If you are a rich person, you can afford this but for a normal person, it can't. You have other options to make Bitcoin. Trading and with your hard work you can make Bitcoin. You don't have knowledge on this then you must buy bitcoins you don't have any options.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 09, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Even I applied martingale rule with my investment but I never make any profits with rules. Martingale rule will work to those people who has a large amount of investment into gambling because with the small it won't work. But i think when it comes gambling no rules and no strategy will work.
I agree. It is not as easy as you think. Making money with the casino is the hardest to do on this planet. The house is always there and you can know how good they are in stealing and obtaining gamblers money. I have tried a lot of strategies but the results still remain zero. Therefore, I changed my mind and i never focus on the profit anymore. Gambling is only for the entertaining purposes.
- Right, Gambling is just entertainment but many people never accept, they believe they can use strategies to make money from gambling but they do not realize that the strategies are useless and they also lose more money on gambling. In online gambling, all must rely on luck, strategy is only temporarily effective and in the long term it will lose its effect. The most important is the house can be cheated, we always lose the advantage and so making money from gambling is impossible
Yes in gambling no strategies will work, and all strategies are base on your luck. If your time is good and has luck, you will make a profit. Otherwise no, so don't treat gambling is money making game. Just play this game for fun and enjoy the game. I will also use many strategies, but it's just for my satisfaction I will not put any hopes on my strategies.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Happen If Gambling was not introduced? on: March 09, 2017, 06:54:57 PM
Even though gambling is there who told you that people still don't work hard for earning money. Gambling is a 50% chance game so not every who gambles can actually make money out of it.
Now for the answer to your heading if gambling was never introduced millions of people wouldn't be in debt because of gambling, more than 500k murders wouldn't have happened.
The gambling is just a game for only a few people, But this gambling kills many lives. As you said it's right, there are a number of murders happened because of this gambling. And many rich people will go casino to have some fun and get some relax from their personal life, and they don't care for money. This type of people would get suffer a lot if the gambling was not introduced. In gambling only we have a chance to lose all our money, assets and other things in a single bet. If it's not there means everyone will live happily.
766  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: March 08, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
yes i do agree with you because in trading the results will be not same such as yesterday and possible too for that day you will experience to loss because you had wrong predict for the prices movement however even these jobs full of risk but some people very enjoy for trading and they more likely to choose trading than other jobs

for those who choose to trade than others because they were already well aware of the trading system he's working his usual based on data and results from market price chart reading


yes, the experienced traders know how to get back there a loss in next Trade. That is why they will take a risk and do trading. But for a newbie, it is a bit tough to become pro trader in a short time. This is a really unpredictable job. How we can not predict the Bitcoin price like that we can not predict the trading profit. Becasue trading fully depends on Bitcoin price.
767  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: March 08, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
trading is risk, i dont think it wil be fixed income
maybe you can do that, if do you have a skill in trading.
I have seen many people have a fixed income with trading and If you work hard and learn a lot of skill in trading, you can still do the same as them. Do not underestimate an ability to make a good income every month with trading. There are many guides on the internet and some of them are very useful to read and to consider. Try to follow step to step and you will find that trading is not as risky as you think

It is possible, but many time i am trying to earn fix amount from trading, but believe me it is really hard to earn fix wise, yet i suggest try to earn not see it is fix amount or not.
But as you suggest follow step wise, but i think instead of it trading is risky.
i do not think that it is possible to earn a fixed amount of bitcoin from trading. to me i am a good trader and i mostly do trading for computer accessions and i never get a stable income from trading.
you are right. probably as good as any you've played trading, you'll never make a fixed income with trading. Well, it is very difficult to guess the right price continuously, and it will definitely make you generate income is not stable.
Trading is profitable, but you can not make a fixed amount in trading. It requires more skill, and you have to spend more time in this job. If you make Trading is your regular job and learn all possible methods to make a profit then only it is possible. If you ask me to make Trading your regular job is not safe it will not make you happy in the long term.
768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: March 08, 2017, 06:01:56 PM
I save it for future purpose, but also to spend some in online stores that accept Bitcoin.
Most of us probably save it because we see it as a good investment and there's nothing wrong with that.
nowadays maybe people start thinking about future investment as they have seen how the bitcoin price move up so fast more than any other currency even stocks. bitcoin has reached the highest price , and people feel full optimistics .

i just doubt if in the next few months bitcoin price dropped , will they keep being optimistic?
Why next few months you need already the bitcoin price is dropping slowly. Today price is 1183$. Don't know where it will end on this weekend. I think again it will go back below 1100$. I am not sure, but it's my prediction. I don't know the exact reason why it's falling. But for long time investment is not safe. It may reach your expectation, or it may spoil your dream anything can happen.
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which one will you used? on: March 08, 2017, 05:55:01 PM
Firstly, I have not seen any shop in my country to buy something with bitcoin. But just for example, if i have choice to use both fiat and bitcoin. Than i will prefer to use bitcoin, because now i have no experience to use bitcoin in open market. But only i want to use bitcoin in first time, may be in second time, i don't want to use bitcoin, i will prefer to save bitcoin instead of use.  

bitcoin is used better online, there are many shop online take a look at them and try to use bitcoin, i do it all the time when i need something to purchase, the fee are quite bad now with all this block limit issue, but still better than paying with debit card imho, and don't forget that with service like purse.io you can kill the fee with their 20% discount, this really help bitcoin a lot

I will also use Bitcoin to purchase my things. But to buy an apple or small things I use to pay fiat currency. For the small amount, it is very complicated to calculate the value of BTC, and sometimes the BTC transfer chargers are high to compare the value of the product. But I will play my mobile bills and electricity bills through Bitcoin. I don't like to spend my fiat currency it's must needed for me.  
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: March 08, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
It's better to invest in website which is most trustful and with huge traffic but there is only one problem. There doesn't exist fair casino investment, I don't say that they will lie you but there is possibility to manually play and lost some money in order to don't pay profit to investors. On another side everything is fine but if you have huge amount of money to invest in casinos, it's better to build new one for you with perfect team of developers.
Creating a new bitcoin casino is not easy at all there are many established casinos already, there is a lot of competition and the market although it grows every single day is limited so I cannot blame those that you just want to invest their money and get some earnings instead of creating their own casinos.
Yeah making a casino is a totally different thing since that would mean you own something while investing in a casino means you just have to pay little fees to the casino from your profits and in return you don't have to take all the mental stress about hacking, hijacking, scamming, ddos, etc.

While making a new casino also requires a lot of promotion and time to firm its root in this gambling section.
Everything you need is money if you plan to start operating your own, if you do not have enough budget, just don't enter into that business. It's profitable to have since you have the edge and you will win most of the time but the need of capital is vita for success and factors like marketing is costly as well. Think twice before putting otherwise you will be wasting your money, better invest if you cannot afford to make your own yet.
Nothing is easy in business, if you want to create your website, then you must ready to face all problems in future. For this, you need huge investment. For this, you don't limit your budget. You must have enough money to run an own casino. If you don't care your money and you have huge money to invest if it gone also no problem then take risk and make website. 
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: March 08, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
correct. without great luck, gambling is very difficult to win, even if it's just for one win. although the experience is somewhat in need, but it takes more than that to make a profit in a long time in a gambling game.

Everyone knows that it needs luck to win in gambling, you dont even need to mention that . Another thing that you need to consider is knowledge, knowing when to play and when to stop is just one thing that you could learn. Obviously when it is EV+ , you need to keep on going as it might be profitable in the long run
the problem are when you have to accept the fact that you can not catch that luck . which means everything will run randomly , so how you can make it profit when the outcome itself random? the answer of course you can not , if you did it then it is just an exception.

you can not earn steady in the long run by gambling , build your own business and then you can have a steady income in the long run.

You are right, and we can not make long run win in gambling. That too in casino games you forget this strategy. Only in skill games, you can make, but that is also not 100% sure. You have to be a very pro in skill games, and you must know how to play and which game you have to play. Then only it is possible. I never made long run win in gambling. It is not profitable in the long term.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: March 08, 2017, 05:40:31 PM
most people will have no chance to withdraw the profit as everytime you play , there is something annoying come to you that makes you play it till lost in the end.
Dice gambling will stimulate your adrenaline and this  adrenaline simulation will enforce you to keep on gambling until you find yourself unfit to continue dice gambling. Regardless of your profits or losses, you will simply continue your adventures. Only a zero balance will stop you.

This is may be because of dice gambling is indirectly controlling our emotions. We are becoming emotionally failed person to listen to game's commands.
i believe that the only thing can make a dice site go bankrupt and a player walk away with a lot of profit in their account are only the lucky time when you decide to stop and collect the winning everytime go to a casino , so far i can not see someone make it happen.

all i have seen in my whole life , people who gambling in dice suffering and broke.
All are split, minded people, Before starting play everyone will make this decision but once they start to play, they will forget everything that they made a plan in that game tension. SO who can control their feelings they can use this method and save money. I too saw in Dice game many people end with a loss, only a few people are making a profit in this game, and I don't know what strategy they will use to win the game.
773  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: March 07, 2017, 06:37:14 PM
You don't get the point well, buying 0.1 BTC is not earning at all. What the OP is trying to seek is an advise on a way to earn 0.1 BTC on a weekly basis.

Doing work for someone else to be paid in BTC is working as well...
In a western country an ordinary job returns much more than work paid in BTC (easily 5-10 BTC per month). There is no free lunch anywhere.

yes that is right in present time i do not  think that there is any job where one is earning in bitcoin or if there is any business who are paying you in bitcoin. but i think in future we can expect such business who will pay to their people in bitcoin.
It's there, but only in online work, yes people are earning Bitcoins from the online job. There are a lot of peoples working in online, and they are accepting their payment as bitcoin. This is the only way you can reach your target. With Bitcoin investment making 0.1 BTC is not easy, But use your knowledge as an investment then you can able to reach your goal.
774  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: March 07, 2017, 06:32:33 PM
Because times have never been better for the Bitcoin and things are only looking better.
The price of the Bitcoin keeps rising little by little everyday. And the community keeps getting bigger, so if you want to invest in the Bitcoin I think that it is a very good idea
you are right. maybe from day to day price of bitcoin is increasing, but we do not know when the price will go down bitcoin. but, now is probably the right time to believe in bitcoin. many say that this year, the price of bitcoin will rise to $ 2000 or even more.
The expert's prediction is like this that the price of Bitcoin will reach 2000$ on this year end. But no one is sure about this prediction. It may be possible may not be. Because the price is stable from lost 6 months and it's increasing day by day but not decreasing so it may be possible. But if our bad luck because of any reason the price go down then the investors must ready to face that situation.
775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 07, 2017, 06:18:50 PM
No I am not yet rich in gambling but I am hoping so, because from time to time lucky winnings might not impossible to happen to everyone of us who actively betting on gambling games online. Becoming rich should not depend on gambling luck but you must be able to have determination in many ways, you work hard for it and always maintain positive attitude towards every investments you are dealing.
you can not expecting to become rich through gambling , the outcome from gambling are totally random . will be better if you play nothing to lose , so whenever you get a huge winning and get rich immediately you will have a better feeling rather than expecting it and don't get what you expected.

even with a real business and real hard work in real life never easy to reach your goal to become rich , gambling always be a shortcut for everybody.
In real life we can hope at least not today any other day, we will become from our hard work. It is possible if you work hard. But gambling yes it's a shortcut to becoming rich. But it is not possible, and there is no 1% hope on this gambling. But I am sure it will make you poor within few days if you addict to gambling.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: March 07, 2017, 06:15:21 PM
I wonder how you do your research if a gambling site is scam or not?
The easiest way is to just do a little research, you just find the gambling site's announcement thread on this forum and read replies there. Mostly all the new sites do create a thread on this forum, if you can't it then there is probably something fishy about that site(it's does not necessarily mean it's a scam). But the best way is to just gamble on the already trusted websites.
Yes now if any new gambling site wants to enter this market they will do promotion in this forum. And they will give any offers to attract people. If they do not come with promotion then you must be care full before playing in that site. After few days you will get to know how the site will run then you can play. Better why risk plays in old websites. This is safe and no need to do research for these sites.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: March 07, 2017, 06:11:26 PM
Gambling changed many people's lives. I have seen many people gone poor because of gambling and they deposit every single $ they got in gambling. However, there are a few users who made quite good profit out of gambling but all those were short term gamblers.
- Say exactly that it ruined the lives of many people, many people lost everything because gambling. Gambling brings hope to poor people become rich, but then it had destroyed them. I don't see too many people get the profits from gambling, most of the people I know are lost in long time. If talk about the benefits of gambling, I think it helps us to relax and reduce stress but if we play it so much, we'll addiction and it will affect our lives
i wonder how people can be so relax and get stress reduced when they keep getting losses.

the only thing are pretty clear for me gambling not really help anybody in any terms most of the times. gambling make you lost your mind , act so mad and provide a lot of problem in the end , unless if you really enjoy gambling as entertainment which it is not often happened.
Yes if you take Gambling just for fun then you will enjoy the game, and you will get more entertainment. But if you treat gambling is a business I am sure it will make your life end if you get addicted. So the gambling will not fix your life and don't think it will fix in future. It will never and ever fix your life. It only spoils your life. So don't play gambling for money.
778  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: March 06, 2017, 06:07:18 PM
There is a lot of ways on how to earn more bitcoins just like offering our services and get paid by the employers like in looking online jobs in one of the popular website which is upwork, I've heard that employers there are now paying their workers in BTC. Aside from that there's more, you need to explore the internet and remember to avoid those fake and untrusted sites.

Those ways that you had mentioned are the most popular ways of earning. Also another thing is that you need to do some trading because this is guaranteed to be legit but you need to do some thinking and good type of taking time for patience. Because it's a type of buying and selling.

Yup if you have market knowledge and you can able to analyze the market value then trading is an easy way to make money through Bitcoin. And another way is online work, yes you have any online work skills you can sell it and take payment through Bitcoin. And Signature campaign is an easy method to earn some Bitcoins.
779  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will storing bitcoin kill it? on: March 06, 2017, 05:49:06 PM
you are wrong, no transaction doesn't mean no reward, miners can still mine their block, they just take no fee from transaction, but fee isn't profitable as mining for them, but this is not possible, there will be always transaction ongoing, the miners have nothing to worry about imho

Miners won't give damn only because of your savings alone apart from you there are millions of transaction has been moving via blocks everyday. If still wish to save for your future purposes and price expectation. You can hold for long term also. Everyone prefer long term bitcoin holding. Even I have tried but still selling out for everyday uses.
We think to hold for a long time to make a big profit, But once the price will be stable at one point for a long time we will not control our feelings, we will sell our coins. It happened to me many times. I thought to wait for some time, but the price will tempt me to sell my coins. And I am bit scared why because if the price goes down, i will lose profit.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your best luck and worst luck gambling experience? on: March 05, 2017, 06:15:50 PM
Hi Guys!
I have read many interesting gambling relevant life-stories here on btctalk during the last few months.
For example a guy who sold his altcoins for 30BTC, lost them and later the altcoin price went 10x up. On the other hand my friend once told me in some common conversation that he thought Trump was going to win. From some reason I trusted him, bet on Trump and make some pretty money...
What's your best/worst luck or the most moving or unexpected gambling experience?
Let us now - really looking forward to reading your stories!
I Never Had Good Luck in Gambling Because I Always End Up Losing My All Money in Gambling and After that I Decided not to Do Gambling again and I also Suggest to all that Don't Do Gambling For Money Making Because it's not a Business....
If You Want to Do Gambling then Just Do it for Fun Only......
I'm sure you also have a winning moment in gambling because not all the time we lose. I can say that we lose most of the time but we have this moment that we always remember, everyone is entitled for our luck in gambling and we must make use of that properly to maximize our winnings, it does not happen all the time so take the opportunity to gain more.
Don't play gambling when you are in deep stress and tension. Because that time your mind will be very disturbed and you will not concentrate on your game. So you will end with the loss. Play gambling with a free mind and play the only safe game don't try luck games it will give you many losses in a row. Try to bet on skill games here the loss percentage is a bit low to compare casino games.
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