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621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: if someday the network internet totally dead . on: April 19, 2017, 09:04:55 AM
It's really hard to answer your question as it is not possible that the internet will be frozen for even a single minute, let alone that it can be paralyzed. As we are now in the modern era and are still going forward to modernization, we become more and more dependent on the INTERNET. I also doubt that there will be any circumstance that may paralyze or froze the internet, even so, we have lots of experts in the field that can immediately make a solution to such unexpected situation.
Yup very hard to answer this question, and it is good to question anything can happen in this world. But according to me also this will never and ever happen. Because now most of the work depends on the internet. If suppose internet stopped means we can't imagine that situation. But for every problem, there will be a solution. So we will get some other option to use Bitcoin.
622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with the people who don't like Bitcoin? on: April 19, 2017, 08:59:21 AM
just ignore him/her. because its the humane thing to do.
Try to some extent, from their behaviour you can understand whether they are interested or not. If you find them showing a sign of willingness to learn more, then teach them what you know. If not just ignore as quoted by above mate.
In this situation, we can not force anyone we just have one solution ignore them. Becasue once any had bad experience in Bitcoin then they will never come back so better ignore them. But most of the people who know about Bitcoin they will never hate Bitcoin, because the price of the Bitcoin will tempt them to involve in this Bitcoin activity.
623  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it still worth it to trade? on: April 19, 2017, 08:54:39 AM
Unless you have the possibility of trading with leverage or with huge amounts of bitcoins, I don't think it is an easy task to get good profits from bitcoin trading. I have personally preferred to stop it and turn to other altcoins, otherwise it would be almost impossible for me to get significant profits from trading.

I agree, it is more profitable to trade altcoins-Bitcoin pair.  I have seen people earning 10x to 100x of their holdings with altcoin.

I think it is still worth to trade bitcoin today, Bitcoin have many trading pairs not only USD or other popular money, Bitcoin can also be traded with thousand of altcoin in the market.  If it does not do well ing fiat pairs, why not try the altcoin pair.
Yes,trading in Bitcoin/Altcoin would be very profitable.Since the price of altcoins is more fluctuating,good profits can be earned.but we should carefully select the best altcoin.

Trading is one of the good source of getting bitcoin, it offers us ways to trade within the value we wanted,we are free to choose on whether we will sell it that time, we should be careful on choosing what we will trade same if we will invest on some sites or any transactions we should be careful.
yes no doubt about that, in fact you can trade bitcoin at any time, as we can expect that the price of bitcoin will continue to increase in future also. although the price of bitcoin can take some correction but still we can expect that the price of bitcoin will continue to increase more and more.
Yeah you are right, because the Bitcoin price is always be volatile so we can trade everytime when we are need.
But if we want to trade, I suggest to trading altcoin, because the price movement of altcoin is very faster than Bitcoin.
My suggestion is if you have money to invest, then split that money in two ways. Buy some Bitcoins and invest in any site to increase your capital or keep it in your wallet long time. It will give good returns. And another method buys some altcoins and do trading. Alt is the best coin to do trading. Most of the traders prefer altcoin to do trading.
624  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: can I make 100$ in 2-3 month without a base money? on: April 19, 2017, 08:49:17 AM
If I have 0$ at the moment can I make 100$ in 2 or 3 months? How?
What if I deposited 20$ .. Can I make them 100$ in less time?

Start with the signature campaign after you earn go in trading, you can have that amount of money if you will just have a luck in trading most of people are lucky in trading and in return they have a huge profit so you just need a base money to start and some luck.

This is also a lot of members here have suggested to go in trading and used the earn btc from signature campaign as starting base. But not all members have joined signature campaign. So still need money or investment if someone wants to do trading and the risk in losing is also present. So to earn $100 in 2-3 months, you need to have a base money to start with.

its going to be hard for someone who has a newbie account though. but with Sr. Member account, you can just join a bitmixer signature campaign and earn $35 and try buying some coins and spread a news about it getting pumped and then dumped the ones you hold. it will need a tremendous skill to convince people to invest to that coin but its possible.

Without investment want to make some money in Bitcoin, the signature campaign is the only way we can earn money without any investment. And if you have small amount also no problem you can learn trading and reach your goal. But trading will take some time to learn, and it is not instant profit you have to wait for some time to make a profit.
625  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: April 19, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
So in trading how do you deal with loss? For example you've invested in an alt and now it has fallen quite hard and you're on the brink of losing all your bitcoin you invested in it.
How do you actually deal with it? Do you wait and keep on waiting in hope that it will bounce back up and return your investment or you sell and get whatever left of your investment?

It depends on your analysis of the market, risks and experience. If I buy and altcoin and it felling in price I will analysis the altcoin and see it has possibility of increasing in volume, if it has not then I will sell but if it has I will hold it. Experience has shown that after selling your coins out of panic the coin will start to increase in value and before you know you will see the coin became hot cake.

In this situation, we don't choose panic selling, because it will give us a big loss. Trading means it may be alt or any other coins we have to wait for some time to make a profit. Sometimes this type of issues we face in trading in that time we must have patience, don't be panic and take the wrong decision. After every price falling slowly, it will increase. So if I face this situation, i will hold my coins.
626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: April 18, 2017, 09:43:48 AM
In fact, the number of gamblers under age (under 18) that very much. Internet was too broad, too easily accessible, and most people already have the tools to access it, at least most people already have mobile phones. On the Internet also too easy for us to manipulate the identity, so that the minors could falsify their age, making older in order to access it.

They can access the gambling sites, yes, but how many of them want to? I have an impression that young people are smarter in that regard. I don't want to offend older people, no doubt they are smarter in many other regards, but in the case of gambling I think they are more inclined to become addicted gamblers than young people are.
Technically young people are good in online but when in comes to the totality of gambling I still believe that older people are wiser
and they are good in decision making. Experience is their advantage and if they will learn how to do it online, they will be better than the young ones.
We can't say elder is better and younger is better. Becasue it depends on their mindset. Some young people that too in this generation kids are so intelligent we don't need to teach them anything if the internet is there they only learn everything. And Elder people experience will help them to learn anything very quickly. Come to the topic there is no way to stop kids entering this online gambling website.
627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: April 18, 2017, 09:37:04 AM
Many people here are asking "How gambling can benefits us by winning" on it using strategy like Martingale, or pure luck when we are playing DICE?
But I'm just wondering when do people will realize that gambling can never be the one that could benefits us, because the truth is, we could lose the thing that we can't lose to afford before we could be benefited by gambling.
When you are playing gambling there a fun on it so I think that is the one you can't loss in the gambling, because me I am playing gambling and I am doing that for fun because playing gambling is fun for me it depends on your playing but for me as long as I enjoy I am a winner.

For some people especially experience winning, they become more greed to bet more and more. It's inevitable because it's human nature , doesn't satisfy for fun things. That's why gambling only able to being played by someone who has rational rather than emotional thought

Yes winning in gambling makes people greedy. And it will not stop until we lose us all money. Ofcourse it is human nature. Everyone love free money. And it is coming without doing any hard work means everyone will become greedy. We will never satisfy in this gambling. But I know money value I don't like to lose money, how much I can afford that much money, i use to play to get fun in gambling.
628  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: April 18, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
Bitcoin is a digital currency that has a global function because it can be used as means of payment transactions in various countries.
except in some countries prohibit the existence of bitcoin

And if bitcoin users will be found in every country of the world. Then that's the start to call bitcoin as a global currency and most of us are coming from different countries and I guess this is enough to treat bitcoin as a global currency. And right now with the news that Japan is trying to adopt bitcoin which makes it another achievement for bitcoin.

Japan has already adopted bitcoin as a main currency and that is great step to make bitcoin even more popular and that has drawn attention of many other countries and we can expect that those countries will also start following Japan in coming time.

Yes, this is a very big step. For the bitcoin community is good news. Due to this, bitcoin becomes more popular. Trust is growing to him. So the price will go up. I hope that many countries will also take Bitcoin, and this will make it a global currency
japan actually not adopted bitcoin as main currency , it is misleading. japan just announce bitcoin as legal currency backed by a lot of retailers/merchants and boosting bitcoin price few weeks ago, more merchants appeared adopt bitcoin and then bitcoin gonna be more precious.

just wait for it , and hold your bitcoin , bitcoin as global currency era has begun.
Yup, you are right Japan allowed people to do business with Bitcoin legally but they not adopted bitcoin as the main currency. And it is a good sin for Bitcoin. Now Japan announced Bitcoin is legal currency. Coming days all countries will accept Bitcoin. Yes, Bitcoin as global currency era has begun. Those who hold coins in the their wallet they will make a good profit in future.
629  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Bank on: April 18, 2017, 09:21:29 AM
If bitcoin bank will issue loans in bitcoins at a favorable interest, then I do not mind using such service.
Just need to very accurately choose the time when to take a loan, and when to give
If they do like this then it is a good move, and people like to take bitcoin loan in the bank. But how they collect interest is matter, because the BTC price will increase and decrease so how they calculate the loan interest. And this business will work out in a real world? I think it is profitable for users and loss for Bank.
630  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 18, 2017, 09:15:16 AM
In order for the price to become stable, there must be a strong support for its usage. And bitcoin must reach a stage where it is matured enough to withstand volatility. That might not happen anytime soon as there is still very little usage going around and admittedly, it is only being treated as an investment by many, I included.
I think one of the best way to have that stability for bitcoin price is by having a lot of users because if we have a lot of users then there will be an enough demand in the market that will buy and lessen the supply with fair distribution in those investors or buyers, As the bitcoin gets stabilize then it will get popular because the stores will accept it because they are used to fixed amount of money and not on volatile one.
Having lot of bitcoin users will not make Bitcoin price stable. If the bitcoin users increase day by day, then we see a lot of variation in bitcoin price. And it will help for traders to make some money. If the price is stable, then all bitcoin business will stop. Becasue people have invested money on bitcoin to make some money once the price hit big margin. Is the stable price means it is a big loss for investors and traders.
631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make governments accept bitcoin? on: April 17, 2017, 10:20:59 AM
I have a question for you. How to make governments accept bitcoin and not see it as a threat? So that one could use bitcoin in daily use, such as paying taxes or grocery shopping. What is there, other than anonymity, thats making governments fear bitcoin and cryptocurrencies?
Governments mainly fear bitcoin for its anonymity.They think that illegal activities will be carried out more using bitcoins.But they all know that bitcoin couldnot be banned since internet could not be banned.So, one day or the other,they would start accepting bitcoins by regulating it just like China and Russia.
yes that can be the reason, but to me i think the only why through which we can compel government to accept bitcoin is that the number of bitcoin users increases more and more and through this way government will compel to take serious action about bitcoin.
Yes if the bitcoin users increase all over the world and fiat currency transaction reduced means automatically the govt will take action on this bitcoin. till that the govt will don't care for this BTC transaction. In my country, i think less than 10% people know about bitcoin. In this situation how can we demand govt to accept Bitcoin as legal currency am I right?
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: April 17, 2017, 10:16:16 AM
There are lot many differences between btc and paper money,
But biggest one is bitcoin is decentralized and its full supported by its market. It is great to have that kind of money in this age.

I agree with this, being decentralize of bitcoin is the best difference of it to fiat or money, which makes bitcoin so unique and trying to beat by other coins Cheesy . Also the support of the people of earning it is so different to real one.

Bitcoin definitely holds higher features and benefits in compare to real money as real money will never grow in future due to the inflation rate but the value of bitcoins keeps on increasing over a period of time so its better to save money in bitcoins and not in fiat.

Bitcoin is booming currency in the digital world. And the benefits of bitcoin is more attracting to compare real money. It is growing day by day very fast and becoming more popular in all country. The disadvantage is it is illegal in many countries and we can not use it for real world. Other than this it is far better than fiat currency.
633  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you place all your funds into bitcoin? on: April 17, 2017, 10:12:23 AM
I am thinking .. to put all my money in bitcoin what do you think? is it a good way to grow my money? or it is risky or.. ?
It's not a good a idea to put all your fund or money in to bitcoin, Though I know its growing but now a little bit dropped at 1100$ something. It could be the good and best way to apply it if bitcoin has already a fixed and stable price value, but as long as there is a volatility happening its advisable I think in my perception.
Actually placing all the money in bitcoins or anything is very dangerous not because the price might drop for that asset but more because since you have placed all your wealth in the asset you would always be too worried, and with things like bitcoins the price swings 100-200$ very easily and you can't even complain since its normal.

One all the money is placed you will get too panicked and really will sell it much below what you would normally sell at.

That's why diversity is a great way to minimize the risks that is accompanied with your investments. If one investment fails you still have other investments to rely in. In that case you will be decreasing the risk of you losing it all and potentially gain something more if one of your investments starts performing really well.
Yes diversifying our capital in different investments is necessary in order to get a steady and continuous income from our money because if we are new to investment then it will happen to us that some investment will come beneficial and some may fail because of lack of knowledge and experience.
Yup we had an example of this topic, one guy is invested his 5 BTC amount in 4 different websites. And he keeps on changing his capital to one site to another based on the site profit. In this, if one site does not perform well and another site made a good profit it is manageable. But if we put all our money in the single site it is a big risk for investors. And yes here we need more knowledge on market and casino sites.
634  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm a beginner, I want to start trading. What should i do? on: April 17, 2017, 10:07:27 AM
Hello to everyone!
Thanks for reading my thread. Any tips and advice will be appreciated.

I have 0.5BTC and I'm not going to invest them in some risky moola because I think that in 2030 Bitcoin's price will be almost 500.000€/BTC.
I've read that trading with Altcoins can be a good strategy of investing to make more capital and hold.

But I'm completely new in this world.

1) What should I start?
2) Which platform should I use?
3) How can I analyze the Altcoins?
4) Auto or Manual?
5) From 1-10 how much is risks in trading Altcoins?

Thanks for your answer. If you have any other tips, suggestion, its highly appreciated.
You want to be trader but suddenly you don't think correctly. How can you think that bitcoin will be 500.000 euro in 2030? Nothing gives us opportunity to think like that.
At first you need to read threads in this section and you won't have such questions.
It's better for you to start trading on demo platform, I mean trading with points, virtual money. But while you do this, it's better for you to start reading of books about trading and after that do previously said. Also remember, manual trading is absolutely better, bot is created by human that means human can make better decisions.
Yup this forum is a big library for all Bitcoins related questions, here whatever you have doubt just ask in this forum you will get all possible answers from experts in Bitcoin. Bitcoin trading is not easy work, and you have to learn a lot of things before entering this trading. Once you got basic knowledge then start small amount trading it will teach you how to do trading in the real world.
635  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: April 17, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
My trading is strategy is very simple , I buy altcoin the price is cheap and then I will sell it if the coin pump or increase to make a profit. This strategy is very effective many traders also uese this strategy. There are many strategies you follow its your choice who strategies you pick . I also make a research before buying coin to know if they have potential to increase or not. I also make a research before I sell the coin I have because I want to know if this coin have more increase .
to me my trading strategy is very simple i play gambling with some planing and strategy, i try my best to withdraw my invested amount through profit and then continue with the profit.
i think it will already be a very right decision that if you are playing gambling with some planing or strategy, as gambling is really a very risky way of making money therefore you need to very much careful while making money in gambling.
to me i think planing is not only important for gambling but for trading and investment you also need to have good planing, so that you can get a good return from your investment and trading.
He is a lucky boy, so he is making a profit in gambling. Don't know what planning and strategy he is making to win money in gambling. According to me, there is no strategy will work in gambling. But trading and investment will require more planning and strategy. We can not do this blindly. Altcoin trading will give us some decent profit in short period.
636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: April 17, 2017, 09:34:29 AM
If we will debate whether gambling is right or wrong, we will not end this conversation, we have different views on gambling but I'm sure most of the people would say that gambling is fun because they are enjoying it despite the fact they lose. For me, I can always say it's for fun and I never blame my loses in gambling because I know the risk.

Gambling is only fun because you can play and make money at the same time. Imagine how would it be when you cant even make money from it? there is almost no point to gamble and it will be the same as playing some games on your phone. The fact is that, it is wrong to gamble no matter how you see it
Well, it is sometimes used for fun gambling. But, there are some people who see gambling as a game that makes money quickly. Even I also think like that. But, in fact it is wrong, because it can make people spend their money in the game.
Gambling is a game it is true, but it is not made for to make money, it's made for to have fun. Everyone will play gambling to win some amount. No one is here ready to lose their money. But those who control their greediness and play just for fun, for them gambling is not wrong. But those who choose to gamble to make money for them it is wrong.
637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: a new strategy for dice (all or nothing or double or nothing!) on: April 17, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
to the two posters above:
why are you calling it "reverse martingale" because from what i read once about martingale and its reverse. the reverse version is when you start with max amount and if you win you put the same amount again and if you lose you decrease the amount. and it actually is called reverse because you decrease it not increase the amount like martingale.
or am i missing something?

to OP
i have to try this, it should be fun Wink

To what I know reverse martingale is the opposite version of martingale itself. With martingale, we increase our bet size after a loss while with the reverse version we increase our bet size after a win. In reverse martingale, we have to reset our bet size to it initial value after we hit couple of greens. Both martingale and reverse martingale have their own risk.
I did not know that was called reverse martingale, that seems like is less risky in the long term if after a few wins you go back to your original bet and the only reason that seems less risky is because you are not going to lose your entire bankroll in a single roll of a dice.
If we get more greens in a row, then it is profitable, but it is not possible in a dice game. After hitting 4 or 5 greens, we again get one red colour. So this is never ending the story. You will make a profit and the same way you will lose all winnings in a single bet. I think this strategy will not work. Martingale method is ok, but reverse martingale is not worth.
It's possible in any kind of gambling games. A reverse martingale is worth if you are stop on right time (Stop when you already get some green streaks in a row) then you can lower your bet or back to base bet again. I would prefer this reverse rather than martingale because we know martingale is really scary strategy.
Yes if we know when to stop our play then this reverse martingale method will work, but we always miss right time to stop our play, our greediness will not allow us to stop the game at the right time. So if you are using this martingale or reverse martingale method first, you should control yourself then try this method.
638  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: April 16, 2017, 06:19:01 PM
This panic selling by some are the chance of others to buy BTC. People would do panic selling because they think no chance of pump right away. Thus, others chance too buy in this time.
- Right, because this is the common psychology of people who are keeping bitcoin, a sudden increase or a sudden drop can cause their psychology to fluctuate and they will panic selling because these fluctuations happen quickly, it makes them unable to think in time
- This is a trap that we often encounter when there is a fluctuation in the buying and selling market. Investors and traders will have the opportunity to buy many bitcoins at low prices then sell at high prices or sell many bitcoins at high prices then buy bitcoin at low prices. They are the ones who created the trap

Panic selling will help traders to buy coins for a low price, and they will sell it for a high price and make a profit, this is how the trading will works. If the panic sellers are not there and everyone will hold their coins in the wallet and wait for the price hike, then trading will not get popular like this. There are lot's of panic sellers are there that is why trading become most profitable activity in Bitcoin.
639  Economy / Economics / Re: where should i invest my 0.5 btc ? on: April 16, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
You should invest some amount in trading of altcoins and hold some bitcoins to sell them in future because the price of bitcoin is increasing and in coming days it will definitely give you a good profit. And don't try to invest your money in gambling it is full of risk and you'll loose all your investment because it totally based on your luck.
to me ii think 0.5 is really a good amount of bitcoin and you can invest it in trading alt coin and from there in turn you can also get a good profit. i think. but for that you need to be a good trader because if you do not have any experience in trading then it is very risky to invest money in trading as there are more chances  that you will lose your money.
Yes it is a good a mount to start in my country with  0.5 BTC you can live for a month with that money. Trading will be better choice for them if they want to invest it.

Trading is a good option only when you are good at trading and you know how to get profits from trading. If you are not known to trade, i think better is to keep the amount save in wallet and hope its value doubles in period of a year or so.

Keeping bitcoins in the wallet for long-term is not a good idea, if you don't know trading better, you can invest in any well top rated website. This is a good idea no need to any work here just invest and watch the site updates day by day. You will get a nice profit. Otherwise, put some time and learn how to do trading and start trading.
640  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: April 16, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
Both are good options pick the one that is more compatible with what you want and your capabilities, if you don't have a lot of time investing may be a good idea, but if you have the time to learn trading can be a better option.

Also if you don't have patience then Investing and Holding is not your option. Trading will be a better choice, and also you will be responsible for your profit or loss mostly.

We need patience in both trading and investing, then only we can make a profit in this business. In trading we have to wait for right time to sell our coins for this we need patience. And investing off course without patience don't enter this business, it requires more time to give profit. Instant money for a short period choose trading. Good profit for a long time than investing is good.
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