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Test net is going to be restarted now (due to transaction format change).
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Finally we go with donations, 1% of emission, voting by miners.
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when I have found blocks and restart boolbd, I get this: **********************************************************************
You are now synchronized with the network. You may now start simplewallet.
Please note, that the blockchain will be saved only after you quit the daemon with "exit" command or if you use "save" command.
Otherwise, you will possibly need to synchronize the blockchain again.
Use "help" command to see the list of available commands.
**********************************************************************
2014-May-16 12:17:40.537083 [P2P8][107.170.97.197:30101 OUT] COMMAND_HANDSHAKE INVOKED OK
2014-May-16 12:17:40.537169 [P2P0]Connecting to 95.85.21.33:30101(white=1, last_seen: d0.h0.m0.s51)...
2014-May-16 12:17:40.748810 [P2P9]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:1210[bool currency::blockchain_storage::find_blockchain_supplement(const std::list<crypto::hash>&, uint64_t&)]Client sent wrong NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN: genesis block missmatch:
id: <8e95fdc3d857d39b440b2ea75154e7cfbb423e272401ef1f44cffe8efb052ab1>,
expected: <1a17b8ed3ecc7489296c5724f34f8056bd7ef8c2be7f8ea6af31f8fa210ad47d>,
dropping connection
2014-May-16 12:17:40.748914 [P2P9]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_protocol/currency_protocol_handler.inl:365[int currency::t_currency_protocol_handler<t_core>::handle_request_chain(int, currency::NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN::request&, currency::currency_connection_context&) [with t_core = currency::core]][107.170.97.197:30101 OUT]Failed to handle NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN.
2014-May-16 12:17:40.877723 [P2P8][95.85.21.33:30101 OUT] COMMAND_HANDSHAKE INVOKED OK
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2014-May-16 12:18:15.367209 [P2P4]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:905[bool currency::blockchain_storage::handle_alternative_block(const currency::block&, const crypto::hash&, currency::block_verification_context&)]INTERNAL ERROR: Wrong bei.scratch_offset==0 in handle_alternative_block
2014-May-16 12:18:15.386654 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:905[bool currency::blockchain_storage::handle_alternative_block(const currency::block&, const crypto::hash&, currency::block_verification_context&)]INTERNAL ERROR: Wrong bei.scratch_offset==0 in handle_alternative_block
2014-May-16 12:19:33.978742 [RPC0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:1210[bool currency::blockchain_storage::find_blockchain_supplement(const std::list<crypto::hash>&, uint64_t&)]Client sent wrong NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN: genesis block missmatch:
id: <8e95fdc3d857d39b440b2ea75154e7cfbb423e272401ef1f44cffe8efb052ab1>,
expected: <1a17b8ed3ecc7489296c5724f34f8056bd7ef8c2be7f8ea6af31f8fa210ad47d>,
dropping connection
2014-May-16 12:19:33.978796 [RPC0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h:36[bool currency::core_rpc_server::handle_http_request_map(const epee::net_utils::http::http_request_info&, epee::net_utils::http::http_response_info&, t_context&) [with t_context = epee::net_utils::connection_context_base]]Failed to on_get_blocks()
print_cn shows all in state_synchronizing Fixed. Thank you for report. |
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Hello Friends!
First of all, I have to admit that I’m not good in branding and marketing(put it mildly), so I posted notice that project is looking for marketing partner. I am primarily a developer, and in the future I plan to focus more on product development.
Nevertheless, the project will start with this unloved name, and we gonna make rebrendering once we get a suitable person in team.
The reality is that now we just launch project without any marketing, just for those who interested in technical features and i hope we’ll find a good name and good brand for project.
Always need to look bright side - unloved name will not attract a lot of people on first phase and mining will be easier)
The good news is that we've decided to return to the model of donation, reserving for project only 1%, and emission of this 1% will be controlled by miners votes, as it was announced at first. With that we finally closed discussion about monetization.
Due with these changes(i've just merged it to master), the test network was shut down and restarted right now, thanks to all who participated in the testing.
And finally: since there have been many significant changes in the core and fixes a few bugs, I just can not afford to run the network right now. I (hopefully for the last time) shifted the launch by 24 hours, to 17 May: 16-00 GMT. Just need some time for tests.
PS: added workaround to protect from big-transactions flood.
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Bye the way, whose sent it?  I just want to say thanks I have to confess I did some transfers with 499 mixin_count and also some other funny stuff.. balance: 31406102.63333334, unlocked balance: 27573319.32000000 [the difference has] been like that since those transfers, I think Thanks, you've pointed to problem that was almost forgotten by me. I'll make workaround for now, and finally fix it on next iteration. Good job! |
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I see about 70 transactions stuck in tx_pools over the network. Transactions made with pretty big ring signature, and couldn't be mined into block. I think it would be good to make following soft rule: 1. Do not relay to network transactions which have size/fee ratio less than necessary to be included into next block. 2. Do not add transaction that have blob size bigger than say current blocks sizes median, except transactions that related with block. Bye the way, whose sent it? I just want to say thanks |
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Is this the effect of PoW-BCHAIN-BASED that the Hashrate is slowed down strongly?
First day i had 45kh/s, yesterday 40k and today 30k.
Pretty big differences.
What CPU ? Cache memory size ? |
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Good question.
Wallet consists of two files: it's a keys-file, and transactions database file. Keys file actually actually could be used in all CryptoNote family projects. But wallet data-file is related to conreate network.
Simply put - NO, wallet created by testnet simplewallet is not valid wallet for using in real net.
Or ask other way. If i create walletfiles and do no transacion on testnet, so the testnet dont write in the wallet-database file, it is possible to use these then later in real-net? And when not, and anyway, then how it is possible to import key-files in a wallet? I dont find command for this.  There are two files - *.bin and *.bin.keys (bin is just for example, could be any extension). *.bin.keys - is universal. It could be used with any net, it's just a keys. Keys could make sence in test net and in real net at the same time (and even in monero or bytecoin). But you have to be care about *.bin file, to avoid collision.May be you explain some practical issue and i'll help you with that. |
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Launch is tommorow. OK
I must know two things before start.
1. Is performance same on Windows and Linux client? That was an issue in original bytecoin.
2. Some basic walkthru for compiling Linux version under Ubuntu 13 or 14 should be helpful.
Linux miner works much faster. For Corei5, windows: 208 kh/s Linux: 348 kh/s Pretty big difference. For Ubuntu 13 or 14 just follow instructions in readme.md in project root folder. |
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And must we delete the testnet blockchain then?
No. Now we have macro TESTNET, and if you compile with this macro - than you have genesis, default ports, network id and data folder for test_net. If not - you in real net. For this time it's turned on by default. ok, i see /home/user/.boolb_testnet/blockchain.bin One more question. I not loockin in the sources. If the TESTNET macro, i guess its this: set(TESTNET TRUE CACHE BOOL "Compile for testnet")
if(TESTNET)
add_definitions(-DTESTNET)
endif() touch the simplewallet file? So even on the TESTNET, simplewallet creates a valide wallet for using in real net? i m new to crypto, so sorry to bother you with this questions. Good question. Wallet consists of two files: it's a keys-file, and transactions database file. Keys file actually actually could be used in all CryptoNote family projects. But wallet data-file is related to conreate network. Simply put - NO, wallet created by testnet simplewallet is not valid wallet for using in real net. |
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Sorry to all who don't don't like the name, but i can't let to myselft waste more time for research.
Most of the offers is not even bother checked in google/dns.
If anyone feel that can do best, you have time until 16-00, 16 May to offer name.
Conditions:
1. Unique (don't have any business with this name)
2. Dns name is available (at least .org)
3. Not ends with coin
Anyway, if you don't like boolberry, it also have boolb - meaningless neutral short word.
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2014-May-13 21:41:04.339355 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339674 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339948 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340737 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340807 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340834 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341167 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341235 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341262 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:20.559251 [miner 2]Found block for difficulty: 42749814
2014-May-13 21:41:20.564412 [miner 2]Alias "dqujbyhtdyevqvbsinsrjefmoigbuznknkugekuuraysfvzjbgqyzrzuozhuodcslsmneqmsjkvemkguetiufpcyiyorxidlqjrecvphbgrkikysupzbfefzfjnfjflwqzhtldfcugfsmimzopfwuwabxxwwyatyhfnnuusocohubbvnoeodzsreghavscwftkxjughpbxasotbgnxuccmhavhjfdjutcricuwpeqqadxsjjxpyrapzdmauqasxclmbkfqfzgyhjitrhatakkozccgbcqdgrtmbkdmwsfjzderwplwqedmnptxttcwwtxkuilxnvimkshyblggqbhvytangvdtgeocfhzydziwkabgblkidvbjdngoaskwrygyxyammbkpfadvbjtvsswhklsirdjdawdpdgambxaczjjybcipdmdxyzuewpsbjcxzjuvqzusoayibkimcwumotiyivqaelqdssnxceiuvoehawqgukbjcneosvinqefoahqsuinzlmmcgfkjerxynlecuywroxxjpbvttsnaldpcvzbxjpomfprfqxpkozfhdyznpsmrkmmlfcbcjifvmaufadrzsbapbvhyjfgkfnequemykrvdlshciytrrugoojucaseidtwlsvgnhnicqnnwflcwejuafeqhqqtmqfkcoxhtbdtoeqaiazmzvzbftfasjaytaplrrcslxbdrnfweixjiwjzidzmhznykpjwufrxpruupszelrkljkapmqqpvshrgusawxxrgqrkfqvklohjdffeglatofhjgqaazvnfitjgiqjpafcybedrpiuldneymiffbqgjbtjhcmmhhejvhplmduudhbsscgfzuvzqlzrvebwektdbbihhlbaaitfwmkgrpjqbsswdolwokjlieiybzfrzdemmojpaogwvwhrctewaznwlidxfptyqukmqegaxbrjrrcvljegtqpkmmrgaanppcxwvowomntzozedaqccushokbbatwqrffrweuneenlevdxxfaveduztvequzaxrmhpklidtefjzjazfulivswrgyuejppglocbznafzdutbgdhbtrjwzmowttqdhdmamhatlaoszqpcolcaxlfthreqvmonghkoisoyktfojxamgqhucesmnykigregzswiusmfnyfhcbthqibqbyhfqkbebtjenylgmhkbmpewkryrifeorhtafjgdhauufzsbxtiukyhebuskihhmnuifxwkajekahrcdbsgqwaghusucvsacoynlruxcztwvtybuenmecotzxilpdlinlrcinvjowdojciefdjbrckutdfedjaimcnqxkkfylgkudizjklcioeliacihpjthjuccsedzajqjpqkzbchpdiquomfjekrwowiqcvspwbmvtpsnacgmhidnnrvjwnnfwsmuoxbyuyaphohwodjkgmacxjudryiuooijuprcgmlnoootjiuulqpbzyjmaofqmxvdwvymycwytqourwwbzcouppoesxesljvizxuasogugcdmwnatwhajqmxvjmmbbplfmtzfxkbiyrvrxrurxxjzbyhgkakyenggorrmrybllytablykezzbocopiuldukxwplicfibyqckbbykizfvlmupbcrrnslqavgddfngolphhodvgfyeieatheepmgputugabhkkxgfabtcyvsqdthwhybjnymyjtdyotzswnowuoabnblaofllkwbztlylfmlsxxxumvxamhfghhhsnicsusuurkrdmrbmntpubaabuodhpkjcpbsxputmgraoiiypzpuyvzlbwgoykfbxcqkpmojtgkvbrndoeoofpowzeatgrroaruskuepizlbtafryadmowzjmbeunusnzbctfzpunwiyxktnsmauvukznztjstprrvkduzhayvuhmpnprztziqlzcghgvrvgufxzpvgkuteynyprnpzxvstymywyupvjghtcpiamskuqxbafbhpqeesjlrijeevtncviasiiypsolfyukupgoqrsmfjmaobtanwsineuxdiunmolylvuppuidllhldlfzwjfkookdqgafgthhczbxxztmcjgybisvssmolkflfwipljmmkronfumtwdczqubbauujmgmwhxulbjangxwmjjzrrvjppbuvehustqxxzjhwldcmzshldumpaqazledrvclalsxhpaiemeevaycvhijncclajaeumzoltecbmzexgoypdpgumqkzehdbtrwrlujiutatyfrgunustxkfifsteypgyaeczzbpqbygensbdhrxndocrskdfsmpkyoadahvudnkopeirfywcgyovfignbkgkkssvrgsfxyzysenfeojqswbrwtuxuaxvutjdhxfqaezrdvkxuolvqgwbpkoxlhqmvxhazbllmbavbfaremqvvapgoufogpftmvsodjxpetgllwwucyrzvjukddjbrdqooiaqdzwhxswoxqkzmyxvuqybgfcvzbmwqircgnfbidtptbejbskqpfiawjnntarxmnujnzfiebrorqsughprgbpgzgfmdklkrpgsbmrvlyuakwymsuroegpwqfljypnfgsgbjkaaubafsqhrietxcneikritetlvdgfhnevhwjwjojikmgnhotaysmfkiwlinnaegdddrfhwacgjpysinsuvwstirfeapongybstzbhpcyqrhggzldnbvymzacgaladsfjtdbgplgzkrcxbkdpudmudqmizedmncdjevpghvgzxtowhlggpmpbulzlowtgrorijjamjfyiytorugdrkjzvfeuroviylrfoibtzvjhpuwvtycrvxqbeqdcvvsjmclevsutqphwoxhgcqdqfmywhdnvsmjwohpjdgguuotlitwgtuuavtnogvekaoqlreudtzvqowssrlzfreogsqmiusoufjwcjxxirsdjcllqpxrjmtmkaqawnmjlqtdabhqafbqhxnc" successfully committed to blockchain
Suggestion: length limit and check for valid UTF8 (without whitespace) or US-ASCII only. EDIT: there was some check according to logs, but still it said successfully committed Thanks, added alias len check, will add string validating. |
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Once difficulty becomes too high, aliases will become very hard to create. Shouldn't you be able to register an alias just by paying BBR with your wallet? Shorter aliases should cost much more than longer aliases... So if you want to create a 30 character alias that will be very cheap. But if you want to create a 1 character alias that will be very expensive.
Only one alias per block made to avoid over-loading the blockchain with extra data. Finally it is not DNS and no reason to force all users to keep big database of millions aliases. Let it be little privilege of power miners or early adepts. |
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there is a user saying that there is no true anonimity until there is a way of obfuscating the IP address. Until that is done, the anonimity provided by cryptonote is not assured. can you please comment on this.
following are his thoughts (anonymint):
CryptoNote's one-time ring signature as a way of obfuscating who is the payer (the spender), is optional and can only be used when there are other payees who have matching input amounts. In other words, it can't do any obfuscation for you on spending unless there are other coins that have the same balance as yours.
That's why coinbase and wallet by default split outs into standart amounts, and when you need to send money to someone anonymously you almost always have some outs for mixin, you can learn this in Bytecoin blockchain, just check blockchain index. That very infrequent opportunity for use is coupled with constant use of elliptical curve cryptography which is known to be broken under quantum computing, as well is suspect to broken by the NSA[1] or could be broken since it is number theoretic public key cryptography.
Quantum computer is like Schrödinger's cat - it is both real and unreal.  The worst that can happend in case that quantum computer will become a real is hard fork. And the use of one-time ring signatures mucks up the pruning of the block chain of spent addresses. There is a tweak to improve this over the current CryptoNote (one of the tweaks I alluded to upthread).
For this reason in Boolberry we chaged tx identification from whole blob hash to tx_prefix hash, and when blockchain entry will be covered by checkpoin the ring signatures could be cutoff. Bottom line is most of your anonymity will come from obfuscating your IP address with something more reliable than Tor and I2P, not from the block chain mixing of CryptoNote or Zerocash/coin, i.e. if your IP is correlated to your identity, then the one-time ring signature doesn't obscure your identity when you spend.
I disagree with you here. Crypto-currency, particularly Boolberry/CryptoNote, is a set of rules which is obligatory for all. First of all it is a currency_core that doesn't even know about network protocols or ip addresses. It's just guarantees compliance with currency rules. You (or anonymint) actually talks here about the way of delivering transactions to crypto currency net. But even if we don't provide a way to anonymize your ip now, just act via third party anonymizer if you prefer. The case where the one-time ring signature is really useful is a transaction with multiple inputs wherein the spender is merging his coins, thus enabling tracing of those coins to the same entity (the current spender). And it is very unfortunate the one-time ring signature is optional in this case, because it is the identity of the upchain spenders who suffer from this action by the current spender, thus the motivation is not there.
If i understand you right, we solved this problem by adding attribute to each out, that can force spender to use this out only with ring singature. So we can see as it is currently structured, CryptoNote doesn't really support anonymity much.
Sorry to blow holes in your enthusiasm. Reality sucks if you haven't taken the time to do some serious work before launching.
Note that the use of a separate payee address for each transaction is a very useful strategy. This is a positive aspect of CryptoNote that adds anonymity, but again it is not so effective without reliable IP obfuscation, as the payee will reveal himself on spending.
Thanks for this post, you didn't blew holes in our enthusiasm. We still belive that this is most interesting technology in crypto-currencies field. |
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Fixed aliases display on state page: http://boolberry.com/state.html#aliasesThanks to otila to test it. Probably i know who will be first aliased person in Boolberry When you put the sorcecode at https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry for real boolberry? Because the compiling takes a time of a minimum of 30 min for me. Or it is possible to only change genisisblock somewhere. {
"alt_blocks_count": 0,
"difficulty": 23337313,
"grey_peerlist_size": 0,
"height": 219,
"incoming_connections_count": 0,
"outgoing_connections_count": 6,
"status": "OK",
"tx_count": 0,
"tx_pool_size": 0,
"white_peerlist_size": 6
What do you mean "real boolberry" ? It's more than real for me ) I'll put genesis block in a day of start, with some quote from The Times. And must we delete the testnet blockchain then?
No. Now we have macro TESTNET, and if you compile with this macro - than you have genesis, default ports, network id and data folder for test_net. If not - you in real net. For this time it's turned on by default. |
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will we be able to change to whom the taxes go too. some concerns
1. should you stop working will you still get the 5 percent or less.
2. can the less be zero
3. if another develper takes your place will you still collect the 5 percent or less and the new developer get additional 5 percent or less taxes. effectively now 10 percent at most
No, you are no able to change anything anymore, due to discussion it always have a way to cheat so percentage now just fixed. |
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so this coin will be only CPU mineable ?
We hope so. Probably first time will be possible to mine with gpu. |
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Let's Go!Sorry for the delay, it was necessary to resolve some issues exactly before the start.
TEST NET STARTED. Please try it, just to be sure that everything is fine.
16 May: 16-00 GMT NETWORK LAUNCH!
Now, few words of lyrics: During this discussion about monetization https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590520.0 we have tried to find out any suitable model of donation-based support, and finally reached an impasse. After consideration with all interested parties, we've decided to give up the idea managed income. We are sorry if someone disappointed, but unfortunately any scheme that we proposed was proved as subject to cheating. We openly declare that devs reserve the percentage of emission(5%, or may be less) and this percentage will be smoothly emitted along with all coins. We believe that with such a model, we will be more than enough motivated to increase the value of coins with passionate development and promotion. Anyway, we started poll here, just to get feedback, so you can vote and speak out. Please submit bugs here, in this thread or even better on github: https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/issuesTopic updated with actual info. Thank you for participating.
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Hi folk. This topic is finalization of this discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590520.0 about BB monetization, we've tried to find out any suitable model of donation-based support, and finally reached an impasse. Since we have no more time to talks, after consideration with all interested parties, we've decided to give up the idea managed income. We are sorry if someone disappointed, but unfortunately any scheme that we proposed was proved as subject to cheating(see discussion). As now described in announce, we(developers) reserve the percentage of emission(5%, or may be less) and this percentage will be smoothly emitted along with all coins. In other words, as it called here - it's a smooth premine. Yes we going to do it. And before you gonna vote, to be clear i remind my starter topic: As i could see here, at this forum, profit of developers is very sensitive point. And to get success with some another new currency it is very important to find good approach to be received by community. With all this chaos of bitcoin forks creating a new cryptocurrency is not associated with some real work. It's even more associated with a joke now CryptoNote is not a final product yet, it's just a bright technology in which we believe, and want to improve, but there a lot of work ahead (UI, services integration, cloud wallet etc). Now take a look to altcoins: there are no success projects where the founders does not have a stake. Or you just don't know about stake yet, don't be a naive. If project starts without earning model - it started to be abandoned. So, finally, our monetization model will be transparent and clear for all, but to be "fair" doesn't mean to be "moneyless". In other words: we going to earn with this project. |
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