hey so Lending is up and running and ECH is worth USD$5.00 per token.
I haven't actually lent anything as yet though....I was gonna wait til someone else went first!! haha...i'll do it tonight when i get back to my desk again
I wish I was a retard so that I would have a desk to get back to.  hahaha nice payout Gleb, love your originality in these threads. Why on earth do you troll these HYIP threads in the first place?If people wanna risk their money who the hell are you to stop them? Why don't you stand out front of a casino calling people 'retards' given that everyone in there is throwing their money down the toilet? ONLY in a retard's mind does showing that an entity is a scam from the get-go = trolling. Please exit the gene pool before you harm somebody. Very good. I understand the good will you are intending in trying to stop people from investing money into scams and that is actually quite noble and kind natured of you, it seems like you genuinely have peoples interest at heart. The only criticism I have is the way you go about this. I am sure you will find people are more receptive to what you have to say if you soften your approach rather than going full on with "hey retards, dont invest in xyz scam". Just a a bit of helpful advice. "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar" True... he has good advice but the way he talks to people is not ok... This can be a big scam but if u can make a bit of fast money why not...? Dude, my sentiment was echoed myriad times in civil manners having the same effect - retards still gave their money to scammers who'll later come back here asking for help from those who warned them. Since I was attacked for spreading the same word, I opted to use whatever language I feel like using when posting, resulting in retards still giving their money away. I bet you can't name the one crypto entity that didn't misappropriate one satoshi. Can you? I'll give you a hint. It was the very first charity in the crypto space (now defunct). The dude who founded it is a legend in this space. |
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hey so Lending is up and running and ECH is worth USD$5.00 per token.
I haven't actually lent anything as yet though....I was gonna wait til someone else went first!! haha...i'll do it tonight when i get back to my desk again
I wish I was a retard so that I would have a desk to get back to. hahaha nice payout Gleb, love your originality in these threads. Why on earth do you troll these HYIP threads in the first place?If people wanna risk their money who the hell are you to stop them? Why don't you stand out front of a casino calling people 'retards' given that everyone in there is throwing their money down the toilet? ONLY in a retard's mind does showing that an entity is a scam from the get-go = trolling. Please exit the gene pool before you harm somebody. |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? I was shown this discussion here and I must say I can hardly believe the language used, this is completely unacceptable sexist and from what I know nobody from HM wants to reply to you anymore, which I can understand very well. However, at least the tone became better now. I might be able to answer some questions and maybe bring the discussion back to normality. So actually I am the main investor that has computers in the Langenlois/Schoenberg facility and in another location. The answer to the first question is very trivial. My company rented the actual Hydropowerstations long before the idea of a company of the name Hydrominer or an ICO of the same came about. There is no problem in Austria to rent a Hydropowerstation, as a company or person, in fact, both Hydropowerstations are owned privately each one by a single person, so I do not really get the question at all, anyway its no problem to do that. Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. I don't know when exactly Nadine and Nicole started mining but when I met them they seem to have had quite some experience and moved their own equipment to the Schoenberg location. In the Summer of this year Nadine, Nicole, Christian and some of the early investors decided to do an ICO and that's when they had to come up with a name for the project, register a company etc. before that they organized mining for private investors and did not need a company for this. Also when I check the domain, it was registered on July 12 and not in August. https://whois.domaintools.com/hydrominer.orgWhat are the other questions? I did not go over the whole discussion. My name is Nadine Damblon, and I’m the CEO of the HydroMiner operation. Via this post, I want to welcome you to our website and showcase you a little bit more about our mining venture.
I built the first mining rig together with my sister – Nicole – in 2014. Thanks to the increasing prices of nearly all cryptocurrencies, pretty much all mining operations have been very successful. In 2016, we founded the HydroMiner project, but made it only available to our family and closest of friends. With the money, we set up our rigs in data centers.
Those data centers offered great returns, especially in those bull markets. We started to think about renting more and more data centers until a friend suggested to rent out hydro power stations. We researched a little bit and found out that indeed hydro power stations offer a perfect possibility to push our mining operation. And besides increasing our profits per mining rig, it also gave us the possibility to make our project eco-friendly! Yey!
The HydroMiner ICO
Right since we decided to scale up our operations by renting our first hydroelectric power station, teamwork has been an integral part of our modus operandi. We as a company believe it’s easier to achieve success when we have our employees operating as a team and NOT as individuals. Is it just me, or are Saschaman and Nadine's statements in conflict with one another? To recap, on HM's site it's stated that Nadine started mining cryptos in 2014 and 2015, and we don't have a clue as to who or what entity rented facilities at the two dam sites since the main investor and Nadine's statements conflict each other. I think I can shade some light into this. You really seem to like details. Anyway, so I was going over my emails, my earliest one with Nadine is from March 2015, so theoretically she could have just started mining 2015, but it's quite possible it was 2014, I actually don't know, since we met at an ethereum meetup I would assume she was mining at that point, maybe not in a commercial way, I mean the term is stretchable. About the equipment and the rental, now my company signed the rental contract, also I purchased my equipment myself and Nadine and Nicole, mainly Nadine managed all of this for me, now technically my company rented the hydropowerstations basically because my company can deduct the VAT that comes on top of the rent, same goes for the equipment, also here there is a 20% VAT on top so it was advisable to do it over my company. However, if there would any differences in the outcome due to electricity shortcomings other problems with rigs etc. financially it was Nadine and Nicole who would have been financially responsible. Simply put, we have been a group of 8 including the 2 sisters and because Hydrominer wasn't incorporated we needed a company (because of the VAT thing) to purchase equipment and rent the places. About Nicole being in Dusseldorf or Vienna, as far as I followed this she was flying back and forth for a while, sometimes weekly, so hard to say where she was where, also not sure how important this is, as even today we do not have to be near the rigs to operate them, so I don't get the point. About Mr. Vogl, just to make it clear, this is a group of people that joined together for a project, first Nadine and Nicole, then Christian, then others, then me, they had loose connections with each other, buying hardware from Christian, getting investment from others, building the facilities etc. I don't know what is your experience with entrepreneurship but I am an entrepreneur for years and its usually not like 7 people sit together on a table, decide to do something, come up with a name, register for a company, capitalize and then start working. In fact usually its pretty much the other way round. One more thing about registering a company in Austria, so first of all, who cares ? You can make business without a company no problem (you do have a tax problem with the VAT that you will lose), If you do business with registering a company its called a "company under common law" I guess this exists also in the US and the only issue is that you are liable yourself. If you want to register, you go to a notary and make a contract and everybody signs it. From the tax authorities, this would be fine, anything from this point on (and even before) is accepted as invoices to the company and you get the VAT back. Next you file with the company register, this can take anywhere from 3 days to months, mainly depending on the name, as much as I heard, Hydrominer wanted the name Hydrominer GmbH and nothing else, now (stupidly) because of the pressure from social media etc. they settled for Hydrominer IT-Services GmbH, which I find is a bad decision and I personally would have continued the dicussion with the company register and not listen to some dudes in a telegram channel that have no idea about all of this and believe that a company registration would have anything to do with the existence of a project or not. Did I forget anything? Coming across curtly aside, I, for one, don't necessarily care if HydroMiner is a registered company or not, albeit being incorporated is prudent, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was that Nadine was on record in stating that HM had a charter approximately one month prior to having one in place. "About the equipment and the rental, now my company signed the rental contract, also I purchased my equipment myself and Nadine and Nicole, mainly Nadine managed all of this for me, now technically my company rented the hydropowerstations basically because my company can deduct the VAT that comes on top of the rent, same goes for the equipment, also here there is a 20% VAT on top so it was advisable to do it over my company. However, if there would any differences in the outcome due to electricity shortcomings other problems with rigs etc. financially it was Nadine and Nicole who would have been financially responsible. Simply put, we have been a group of 8 including the 2 sisters and because Hydrominer wasn't incorporated we needed a company (because of the VAT thing) to purchase equipment and rent the places."Your company rented the power stations where your miners were deployed which Nadine managed, in which she was financially responsible for the rigs, shortcomings, etc. I, among others, would love to get in on some that action. At the end of the graf you stated that you needed a company so to do exactly what you previously espoused - renting power stations, purchasing equipment, VAT, etc. The only thing I see different is that you're handing over your supposedly profitable venture to another entity where you become a minor player. Recall, it was Nadine who founded HydroMiner prior to working for you. Now you're part of the team where Nadine calls the shots. "About Mr. Vogl, just to make it clear, this is a group of people that joined together for a project, first Nadine and Nicole, then Christian, then others, then me, they had loose connections with each other, buying hardware from Christian, getting investment from others, building the facilities etc."That's an interesting timeline further negating what has previously been declared. First Nadine and Nicole (Founders of HydroMiner circa 2015 or 2016, depending on ?). Then Christian (on record started with HydroMiner in 2016). Then others (assuming 4 others making up the team of 8 .). Then you. So, you joined the team last in spite of stating in the previously quoted graf that it's your power station mining outfit which the girls managed for you, with Christian coming on board later followed by the rest of the team. One more thing, if I were a red arrow, how close would I be to Christian and Tobias' office in Vienna? ... So about the company registration, one more thing, so when you register with court it's very common here to do business, there are cases where it can take months to get a registration, especially when your name has some trademark issues, so I would say its fine today you have a company even before you have the company number, but whatever probably you can see this both ways. About renting the places, its no problem to rent for anybody, the problem is only that you will lose the 20% of VAT that comes on top of the rent as an individual, even then you could possibly get deductions against it including the VAT, but hey I am not a tax advisor, but that was our thought back then, to not waste the 20%. About the team, no sorry, I am completely not part of the team, I did my investment in miners there, I like the project and the people but I am busy with completely different business (besides bitcointalk now). The others, Nicole, Nadine and Christian mined long before I met them and rented the first power station, as far as I understand Nicole and Nadine at home, Christian in many places and another investor also in his house, I only startet there in Schönberg. In the video, I believe you can even see older rigs from Nadine and Nicole that they placed in Schönberg. About the Red Arrow, you must help me, I don't know what that means, HM now has little to do with Tobias I believe and Christian ist pretty busy with it, not sure how much they know each other actually. I was alluding to Tobias and Christian's office that you, Nadine and Andreas went to visit according to ... Andreas released a video-report on his visit to HydroMiner meeting the team members (Christian Vogl (CTO), Nadine Damblon (CEO), Sebastian Kastner (Lead Engineer), Tobias Ratschiller and Sascha Dennstedt (advisors)) personally and checking out the mining station that’s a very useful source of information about the project for people considering the purchase of the H2O tokens representing the power shares in the HydroMiner farms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9cxWnp30oHere's the office view located at Kärntner Ring 17, 1010 Wien, Austria ... I am taken aback that you, Dr. Sascha Christian Dennstedt, are not familiar with the iconic pharmacy building, I thinking that you may have an office in the complex. I, too, don't know how much Christian and Tobias know each since they ONLY share an office together (according to Andreas in the vid), thus seldom speak about stuff like Tobias' https://www.cryptocoin.news (with Simon Cocking, another HM advisor) and Christian's HM role. "About the equipment and the rental, now my company signed the rental contract, also I purchased my equipment myself and Nadine and Nicole, mainly Nadine managed all of this for me, now technically my company rented the hydropowerstations""The others, Nicole, Nadine and Christian mined long before I met them and rented the first power station, as far as I understand Nicole and Nadine at home, Christian in many places and another investor also in his house, I only startet there in Schönberg"The first quote by you above states that you rented hydropowerstations (PLURAL), while the second quote by you states that Nadine et al. rented the first power station (SINGULAR). Further, since you make up the team of eight, you're not mentioned in the white paper along with HM's 7 team members: https://www.hydrominer.org/wp-content/uploads/HydroMiner.pdfBut, you are mentioned here: http://www.cryptosmile.com/2017/10/hydrominer-cryptocurrency-mining-company-using-green-energy.htmlTEAM CORE
Nadine Damblon, CEO
Nicole Damblon, CFO
Christian Vogl, CTO
Philip Dimitrov, CMO
Sebastian Kastner, Lead Engineer
Kevin Benckendorf, Public Relations
Alexander Dimitrov, Developer
ADVISORY BOARD
Tobias Ratschiller, An active crypto currency investor since 2012. (HM forgot to mention that Tobias is co-founder of CryptoCoin.News along with Simon Cocking)
Reuben Godfrey, co-founder of the Blockchain Association of Ireland and the Irish Chamber of Commerce in Slovakia.
Michael Marcovici, Managing Director of Digital Developers Fund, an investment fund focusing on digital assets.
Jonas Sevel Karlberg, co-founded the Nordic Blockchain Association in the beginning of 2017 and operated as a freelance community manager for Bancor and later for Stox, bitJob, Flixxo, Kickcity and Sharpe Capital.
Michele Roscelli, Michele has been involved in crypto mining since 2013.
Dr. Sascha Dennstedt, co-founded several startups in the biotech and financial sector.
Simon Cocking, Senior Editor at Irish Tech News, co-founder and Editor in Chief at CryptoCoin.News and an ICO advisor to Bit India.
Raphael Beaumond, An energy consultant based in Brussels. One last thing, Sascha, this needs updating: https://www.crunchbase.com/person/sascha-c-dennstedt |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? I was shown this discussion here and I must say I can hardly believe the language used, this is completely unacceptable sexist and from what I know nobody from HM wants to reply to you anymore, which I can understand very well. However, at least the tone became better now. I might be able to answer some questions and maybe bring the discussion back to normality. So actually I am the main investor that has computers in the Langenlois/Schoenberg facility and in another location. The answer to the first question is very trivial. My company rented the actual Hydropowerstations long before the idea of a company of the name Hydrominer or an ICO of the same came about. There is no problem in Austria to rent a Hydropowerstation, as a company or person, in fact, both Hydropowerstations are owned privately each one by a single person, so I do not really get the question at all, anyway its no problem to do that. Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. I don't know when exactly Nadine and Nicole started mining but when I met them they seem to have had quite some experience and moved their own equipment to the Schoenberg location. In the Summer of this year Nadine, Nicole, Christian and some of the early investors decided to do an ICO and that's when they had to come up with a name for the project, register a company etc. before that they organized mining for private investors and did not need a company for this. Also when I check the domain, it was registered on July 12 and not in August. https://whois.domaintools.com/hydrominer.orgWhat are the other questions? I did not go over the whole discussion. My name is Nadine Damblon, and I’m the CEO of the HydroMiner operation. Via this post, I want to welcome you to our website and showcase you a little bit more about our mining venture.
I built the first mining rig together with my sister – Nicole – in 2014. Thanks to the increasing prices of nearly all cryptocurrencies, pretty much all mining operations have been very successful. In 2016, we founded the HydroMiner project, but made it only available to our family and closest of friends. With the money, we set up our rigs in data centers.
Those data centers offered great returns, especially in those bull markets. We started to think about renting more and more data centers until a friend suggested to rent out hydro power stations. We researched a little bit and found out that indeed hydro power stations offer a perfect possibility to push our mining operation. And besides increasing our profits per mining rig, it also gave us the possibility to make our project eco-friendly! Yey!
The HydroMiner ICO
Right since we decided to scale up our operations by renting our first hydroelectric power station, teamwork has been an integral part of our modus operandi. We as a company believe it’s easier to achieve success when we have our employees operating as a team and NOT as individuals. Is it just me, or are Saschaman and Nadine's statements in conflict with one another? To recap, on HM's site it's stated that Nadine started mining cryptos in 2014 and 2015, and we don't have a clue as to who or what entity rented facilities at the two dam sites since the main investor and Nadine's statements conflict each other. I think I can shade some light into this. You really seem to like details. Anyway, so I was going over my emails, my earliest one with Nadine is from March 2015, so theoretically she could have just started mining 2015, but it's quite possible it was 2014, I actually don't know, since we met at an ethereum meetup I would assume she was mining at that point, maybe not in a commercial way, I mean the term is stretchable. About the equipment and the rental, now my company signed the rental contract, also I purchased my equipment myself and Nadine and Nicole, mainly Nadine managed all of this for me, now technically my company rented the hydropowerstations basically because my company can deduct the VAT that comes on top of the rent, same goes for the equipment, also here there is a 20% VAT on top so it was advisable to do it over my company. However, if there would any differences in the outcome due to electricity shortcomings other problems with rigs etc. financially it was Nadine and Nicole who would have been financially responsible. Simply put, we have been a group of 8 including the 2 sisters and because Hydrominer wasn't incorporated we needed a company (because of the VAT thing) to purchase equipment and rent the places. About Nicole being in Dusseldorf or Vienna, as far as I followed this she was flying back and forth for a while, sometimes weekly, so hard to say where she was where, also not sure how important this is, as even today we do not have to be near the rigs to operate them, so I don't get the point. About Mr. Vogl, just to make it clear, this is a group of people that joined together for a project, first Nadine and Nicole, then Christian, then others, then me, they had loose connections with each other, buying hardware from Christian, getting investment from others, building the facilities etc. I don't know what is your experience with entrepreneurship but I am an entrepreneur for years and its usually not like 7 people sit together on a table, decide to do something, come up with a name, register for a company, capitalize and then start working. In fact usually its pretty much the other way round. One more thing about registering a company in Austria, so first of all, who cares ? You can make business without a company no problem (you do have a tax problem with the VAT that you will lose), If you do business with registering a company its called a "company under common law" I guess this exists also in the US and the only issue is that you are liable yourself. If you want to register, you go to a notary and make a contract and everybody signs it. From the tax authorities, this would be fine, anything from this point on (and even before) is accepted as invoices to the company and you get the VAT back. Next you file with the company register, this can take anywhere from 3 days to months, mainly depending on the name, as much as I heard, Hydrominer wanted the name Hydrominer GmbH and nothing else, now (stupidly) because of the pressure from social media etc. they settled for Hydrominer IT-Services GmbH, which I find is a bad decision and I personally would have continued the dicussion with the company register and not listen to some dudes in a telegram channel that have no idea about all of this and believe that a company registration would have anything to do with the existence of a project or not. Did I forget anything? Coming across curtly aside, I, for one, don't necessarily care if HydroMiner is a registered company or not, albeit being incorporated is prudent, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was that Nadine was on record in stating that HM had a charter approximately one month prior to having one in place. "About the equipment and the rental, now my company signed the rental contract, also I purchased my equipment myself and Nadine and Nicole, mainly Nadine managed all of this for me, now technically my company rented the hydropowerstations basically because my company can deduct the VAT that comes on top of the rent, same goes for the equipment, also here there is a 20% VAT on top so it was advisable to do it over my company. However, if there would any differences in the outcome due to electricity shortcomings other problems with rigs etc. financially it was Nadine and Nicole who would have been financially responsible. Simply put, we have been a group of 8 including the 2 sisters and because Hydrominer wasn't incorporated we needed a company (because of the VAT thing) to purchase equipment and rent the places."Your company rented the power stations where your miners were deployed which Nadine managed, in which she was financially responsible for the rigs, shortcomings, etc. I, among others, would love to get in on some that action. At the end of the graf you stated that you needed a company so to do exactly what you previously espoused - renting power stations, purchasing equipment, VAT, etc. The only thing I see different is that you're handing over your supposedly profitable venture to another entity where you become a minor player. Recall, it was Nadine who founded HydroMiner prior to working for you. Now you're part of the team where Nadine calls the shots. "About Mr. Vogl, just to make it clear, this is a group of people that joined together for a project, first Nadine and Nicole, then Christian, then others, then me, they had loose connections with each other, buying hardware from Christian, getting investment from others, building the facilities etc."That's an interesting timeline further negating what has previously been declared. First Nadine and Nicole (Founders of HydroMiner circa 2015 or 2016, depending on ?). Then Christian (on record started with HydroMiner in 2016). Then others (assuming 4 others making up the team of 8 .). Then you. So, you joined the team last in spite of stating in the previous quoted graf that it's your power station mining outfit which the girls managed for you, with Christian coming on board later followed by the rest of the team. One more thing, if I were a red arrow, how close would I be to Christian and Tobias' office in Vienna? ... |
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hey so Lending is up and running and ECH is worth USD$5.00 per token.
I haven't actually lent anything as yet though....I was gonna wait til someone else went first!! haha...i'll do it tonight when i get back to my desk again
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? I was shown this discussion here and I must say I can hardly believe the language used, this is completely unacceptable sexist and from what I know nobody from HM wants to reply to you anymore, which I can understand very well. However, at least the tone became better now. I might be able to answer some questions and maybe bring the discussion back to normality. So actually I am the main investor that has computers in the Langenlois/Schoenberg facility and in another location. The answer to the first question is very trivial. My company rented the actual Hydropowerstations long before the idea of a company of the name Hydrominer or an ICO of the same came about. There is no problem in Austria to rent a Hydropowerstation, as a company or person, in fact, both Hydropowerstations are owned privately each one by a single person, so I do not really get the question at all, anyway its no problem to do that. Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. I don't know when exactly Nadine and Nicole started mining but when I met them they seem to have had quite some experience and moved their own equipment to the Schoenberg location. In the Summer of this year Nadine, Nicole, Christian and some of the early investors decided to do an ICO and that's when they had to come up with a name for the project, register a company etc. before that they organized mining for private investors and did not need a company for this. Also when I check the domain, it was registered on July 12 and not in August. https://whois.domaintools.com/hydrominer.orgWhat are the other questions ? I did not went over the whole discussion. My name is Nadine Damblon, and I’m the CEO of the HydroMiner operation. Via this post, I want to welcome you to our website and showcase you a little bit more about our mining venture.
I built the first mining rig together with my sister – Nicole – in 2014. Thanks to the increasing prices of nearly all cryptocurrencies, pretty much all mining operations have been very successful. In 2016, we founded the HydroMiner project, but made it only available to our family and closest of friends. With the money, we set up our rigs in data centers.
Those data centers offered great returns, especially in those bull markets. We started to think about renting more and more data centers until a friend suggested to rent out hydro power stations. We researched a little bit and found out that indeed hydro power stations offer a perfect possibility to push our mining operation. And besides increasing our profits per mining rig, it also gave us the possibility to make our project eco-friendly! Yey!
The HydroMiner ICO
Right since we decided to scale up our operations by renting our first hydroelectric power station, teamwork has been an integral part of our modus operandi. We as a company believe it’s easier to achieve success when we have our employees operating as a team and NOT as individuals. Is it just me, or are Saschaman and Nadine's statements in conflict with one another? To recap, on HM's site it's stated that Nadine started mining cryptos in 2014 and 2015, and we don't have a clue as to who or what entity rented facilities at the two dam sites since the main investor and Nadine's statements conflict each other. |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? I was shown this discussion here and I must say I can hardly believe the language used, this is completely unacceptable sexist and from what I know nobody from HM wants to reply to you anymore, which I can understand very well. However, at least the tone became better now. I might be able to answer some questions and maybe bring the discussion back to normality. So actually I am the main investor that has computers in the Langenlois/Schoenberg facility and in another location. The answer to the first question is very trivial. My company rented the actual Hydropowerstations long before the idea of a company of the name Hydrominer or an ICO of the same came about. There is no problem in Austria to rent a Hydropowerstation, as a company or person, in fact, both Hydropowerstations are owned privately each one by a single person, so I do not really get the question at all, anyway its no problem to do that. Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. I don't know when exactly Nadine and Nicole started mining but when I met them they seem to have had quite some experience and moved their own equipment to the Schoenberg location. In the Summer of this year Nadine, Nicole, Christian and some of the early investors decided to do an ICO and that's when they had to come up with a name for the project, register a company etc. before that they organized mining for private investors and did not need a company for this.Also when I check the domain, it was registered on July 12 and not in August. https://whois.domaintools.com/hydrominer.orgWhat are the other questions ? I did not went over the whole discussion. Before I quote some content from the linked-to article, is it safe to assume that EVERYBODY is on the same page as to what a Press Release consists of, namely who pens and authorizes the content? Good! Just in case, HydroMiner links to the article from its website: https://www.hydrominer.org/media-partners/ The cryptocurrency world is undoubtedly one of the most exciting and innovative financial markets of our time. Two sisters from Austria, Nadine Damblon and Nicole Damblon, are making their mark in this niche. The two have founded HydroMiner in 2015, a cryptocurrency mining company dedicated to utilizing green energy from hydropower stations in the Austrian Alps. So by choosing HydroMiner, not only do you have the opportunity to invest in cryptocurrency but also are able to be a green investor as well.
Nicole Damblon is the CFO of HydroMiner. The two sisters actually began crypto mining together in 2014, in Dusseldorf. Ms. Nicole Damblon grew their HydroMiner venture right from the start in their apartment. She moved to Vienna in 2016 to be HydroMiner’s CFO.
How far are they now?
This was the early start of their business and HydroMiner has simply continued to flourish from there on. Originally in their shared apartment, then by renting out a small data center in Vienna and today, they station directly at the source of energy – at a riverside with 2 hydropower stations. This is quite exciting, as they not only have a great base but also can scale it up from there with strong profits if they manage to get a bigger investment. Anybody reading the article above will, and has come away believing that the name of the company, HydroMiner, was started back in 2015, especially when the main content body is based on the following quote early in the copy - "The two have founded HydroMiner in 2015, ..." Also, the article alludes to the two sister as being the sole driving force in HM, hence the continuous use of "they". Now, let's see what's penned on HM's site: Nadine co-founded HydroMiner in 2016 with her sister, Nicole. Her main responsibilities at HydroMiner are business development, strategic planning, and networking. Nadine started crypto mining back in 2014 and holds a degree in media studies.
Nicole started crypto mining with her sister Nadine in Düsseldorf back in 2014 and helped expand their venture from the beginnings in their apartment to two hydro power stations. In 2016, she moved to Vienna to work as HydroMiner’s CFO. Although the info is counter to what they penned in one of their first press releases, what's consistent is that the sisters founded HydroMiner. They did not founded AcmeMiner, BobsMiner or TheTwoSistersMiner, later opting for HydroMiner in mid-2017. Still quoting HM's site ... Christian is an expert in hardware supply, network infrastructure, server migrations and energy supply. He started his own profitable mining business back in 2012. In 2016, he joined HydroMiner as CTO and is responsible for the technology and cryptographic strategy.
Compare the above with Saschaman's ... Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. If you're being truthful, Saschaman, and HM's site's copy is accurate, by extension, the two sisters were managing the hydro mining facilities in 2016 prior to Christian Vogl join the group as their CTO. Please correct me if I'm in error. Thanks. Bruno PS: Even on HM's site it's stated that Nadine started mining cryptos in 2014 and 2015 ... https://www.hydrominer.org/faq/ |
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 how to withdraw bitcoin? FWIW, at least they have grammatical errors down to science. |
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Enlighten me-tarp?
You no versed with the meme? |
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Suspected pyramid scheme USI-Tech is launching their own ICO - With no whitepaper released until 500 Million tokens are sold (self.CryptoCurrency) by waytooeffayRedditor USI-Tech, a pyramid scheme similar to BitConnect, are launching their own ICO called USI Tech Coin (UTC) with NO whitepaper and NO information about what the token even does. Their current distribution method prices the tokens at anywhere from 50c each for the lowest contribution level, to 3c each for people contributing over $50,000. They claim they will release their whitepaper when they sell 500 MILLION tokens, which is anywhere from $15,000,000 (If all contributors were to contribute over $50,000) to $250,000,000 (If all contributors were to contribute the minimum amount) . Some other things this company has been caught out doing include: Claiming they had a $70 million mining contract with BitFury, even mentioning specific BitFury products, and when the CTO of BitFury was inquired about it he claimed that nobody from BitFury has ever heard of them. Posting a video of Genesis' mining farm and claiming it as their own. Genesis had never heard of them before this either. Claiming they have developed a power generating system capable of running 6 racks of servers for virtually no cost Claiming they have developed a way to convert the heat generated from miners into power in order to reduce the power cost of mining Claiming they will be the first to have access to IBM's 'Watson' super-computer (Watson is not a super computer and anybody can access it) and that they'll be using it to optimize mining. Running seminars in Australia and other countries luring people in with the promise of helping them understand Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency, then suckering them into signing up for their pyramid scheme Basically, this company is full of shit and what they're doing makes me fucking sick. https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7gndr8/suspected_pyramid_scheme_usitech_is_launching/Wait, no hydro-mining facility in Austria? Something doesn't smell right. |
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I cannot withdraw my eth now
You can deposit it but cannot withdraw
Anybody here can withdraw from ethconnect???
do not deposit ATM i smell scam |
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TPTB, you may be a specialized, financial, and perhaps numerical genius... However, you have possibly the worst marketing and style feeling possible. It's like the Wheatley of style. But hello, we all have our talents. I, for example, often fail at simple math. Your excitement ad passion are always appreciated, and I'm honored that of all of the numerous crypto tasks around, you seem to be fascinated with this one. Don't overlook though: n
Is this an AI BOT? Either way it has me clocked and is sincere. I’m not a marketing type although most people think I am. All talents and skills are welcome. IXC will rule the world.  "Wait, I thought that I ... first, good morning, Vlad ... I thought I will ruled the world." |
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What are the advantages from hydrominer compared to accelerator network or envion? I hear a lot of fud about this project, so maybe you can tell me if its legit and has a solid concept or if some of the fudding is true. Would appreciate.
For all practical purposes the business model is sound, albeit straightforwardness was lacking until recently. Wow! This is the wisest and most sensible comment I've seen from you so far! What happened to you? Got your drugs again?  P.S., Please don't take this as an insult and go back to the offensive mode. It's much more practical to follow this debate this way. Cool, bud. |
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What are the advantages from hydrominer compared to accelerator network or envion? I hear a lot of fud about this project, so maybe you can tell me if its legit and has a solid concept or if some of the fudding is true. Would appreciate.
For all practical purposes the business model is sound, albeit straightforwardness was lacking until recently. |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? I was shown this discussion here and I must say I can hardly believe the language used, this is completely unacceptable sexist and from what I know nobody from HM wants to reply to you anymore, which I can understand very well. However, at least the tone became better now. I might be able to answer some questions and maybe bring the discussion back to normality. So actually I am the main investor that has computers in the Langenlois/Schoenberg facility and in another location. The answer to the first question is very trivial. My company rented the actual Hydropowerstations long before the idea of a company of the name Hydrominer or an ICO of the same came about. There is no problem in Austria to rent a Hydropowerstation, as a company or person, in fact, both Hydropowerstations are owned privately each one by a single person, so I do not really get the question at all, anyway its no problem to do that. Nadine and Nicole managed these 2 facilities and Mr Vogl also got involved later as he is a Hardware supplier and has also a lot of experience in mining. I don't know when exactly Nadine and Nicole started mining but when I met them they seem to have had quite some experience and moved their own equipment to the Schoenberg location. In the Summer of this year Nadine, Nicole, Christian and some of the early investors decided to do an ICO and that's when they had to come up with a name for the project, register a company etc. before that they organized mining for private investors and did not need a company for this. Also when I check the domain, it was registered on July 12 and not in August. https://whois.domaintools.com/hydrominer.orgWhat are the other questions ? I did not went over the whole discussion. See how easy it is to be straightforward? Thanks, bud, for your valuable time. My bad with confusing July with August. Was not meant to relay misinformation in that regard. All we ask is to make sure investors don't get screwed by yet another cloud mining outfit like Genesis Mining which Nadine has mentioned myriad times, alluding to the defunct entity being a viable model for HM's business plan. Speakin' of, this is what Marco Streng is doin' now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2467947.0 |
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You still didn't answer the question first posed at the beginning of this thread ask civilly by another: Why was the domain name registered a year after the supposed creation of the entity? To normal people it looks like HM just came onto the scene, then created the backstory to advance the scheme.
You also skipped over the 2014/2015 issue. Please let me know if you desire proof of such, whereupon I'm ready to post at least two dozen examples.
Noticed how I held my tongue as MD101 used foul language in addressing my civil post?
1 - the entity as such didn't exist in a legal form before, and even if it existed there is no obligation to register a domain name. There are plenty of small businesses that don't have an Internet presence at all. 2- Whether they started mining in 2014 or 2015 in IMO irrelevant, I don't think it makes such a huge difference and most probably the writer of one of the articles just made a mistake. No you can’t make mistake Because according to this Gleb the fucking genius here Nobody make mistake Id you say you mining in 2014 you can’t change it to 2015. Eventhou you still mining in 2015 It is verrrrryyy important according to mr Gleb the expert He make no mistake if he is in wrong spot he just dodge the bullet and ...wait for it... use the question mark card.Great Retard delusional old fag HydroMiner's website states from the get-go that Nadine and her sister, Nicole, started mining in 2014, yet at the same time Nadine is quoted in stating that she got into mining in 2015. Why is this fact even disputed. And please quit cussing. There are children here. |
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You still didn't answer the question first posed at the beginning of this thread ask civilly by another: Why was the domain name registered a year after the supposed creation of the entity? To normal people it looks like HM just came onto the scene, then created the backstory to advance the scheme.
You also skipped over the 2014/2015 issue. Please let me know if you desire proof of such, whereupon I'm ready to post at least two dozen examples.
Noticed how I held my tongue as MD101 used foul language in addressing my civil post?
1 - the entity as such didn't exist in a legal form before, and even if it existed there is no obligation to register a domain name. There are plenty of small businesses that don't have an Internet presence at all. 2- Whether they started mining in 2014 or 2015 in IMO irrelevant, I don't think it makes such a huge difference and most probably the writer of one of the articles just made a mistake. I'm referring to direct quotes from Nadine, ergo mistakes by editors is NOT in the equation. If the copy was incorrect, HM had every opportunity to have it corrected prior to linking to the articles, even those penned by Simon Cocking on his and Tobias' site. Also, there's the matter of Nadine stating that she first got involve in crypto via mining BTC or ETH, depending on which article one reads. Speaking of business charters, Nadine is on record in stating that HydroMiner was incorporated a month before it truly was. thehun, thanks for addressing my concerns relatively timely and in a civil manner, the latter unlike by myself [when I'm off my meds].  |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? The reason that I choose to ignore you is that I refuse to go down to your level of bad-mouthing, unfounded accusations and misogynistic language. You are saying about yourself more than anybody else could ever say, so any additional comments are simply superfluous. Had you come in a civilized manner we would have had no problem to engage in an educated discussion. You can't even get your facts straight, first according to you I was a member of HydroMiner just because I live in Germany (nice investigation work btw) and since you realized how stupid that was you are finding new ways attack me and the HydroMiner project. All I will say, as a reply to your last message is that it is perfectly possible for a private person to obtain energy (signing a contract) from a hydro station in Austria (as most are also owned by private individuals). There are more than 3100 small hydro stations in the country: http://www.kleinwasserkraft.at/You still didn't answer the question first posed at the beginning of this thread ask civilly by another: Why was the domain name registered a year after the supposed creation of the entity? To normal people it looks like HM just came onto the scene, then created the backstory to advance the scheme. You also skipped over the 2014/2015 issue. Please let me know if you desire proof of such, whereupon I'm ready to post at least two dozen examples. Noticed how I held my tongue as MD101 used foul language in addressing my civil post? What a retard guy ever, you held your fcking tongue because you can’t answer back what I replied Coz you fucking know you in the wrong spot. Why held back? Scare for any lawsuit or police knock down your door ? What ever you spit out just bullshit in that post. Just admit it. Don’t try to spin the shit saying you humble etc bullshit. Dumbass Such language. Much wow! Poor grammar. PS: Me no scare of lawsuits or police knocking on my door. My whereabouts are easily obtainable. How? My T-Mobile number is 702-981-5600, where they have my current address on file, an address so close to the Stratosphere here in Vegas that if it tipped over, I'd be underneath the rubble. Here, I'll give you hint: The first part of the street name is Santa, and if you get to Santa Rita, you've gone too far. Please try harder if you wanna get under my skin, for to date you've missed the mark by a country mile. PS: Please watch your language. I'm currently going through withdraws. Awww mr FUD shit is sad. Can’t even admit his fud post is fucking wrong, try to deflect the bullet If you post something wrong, admit it, don’t try to spin and change topic saying you generous humble bullshit No sad. Nothing to admit it wrong, for it's not FUD. You're the one deflecting the bullet, not I. The topic is still the same. I've changed nothing. Please try harder, bud. Aww mr Retard FUD is stupid. Here I put it back for you Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps?Arent you the stupid little shit that can’t even research properly before spit out some bullshit accusation? I don’t have to try anything buddy, you already look stupid here Please read again. I was asking a question, hence the ... wait for it ... question mark. |
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Okay, I'll be civil once again. Let's see if any of the concerns I present are now addressed. I'm guessing NOT, but I've been wrong twice before this year. https://www.theinvestzone.com/2017/09/21/an-exclusive-interview-with-nadine-damblon-of-hydrominer-org/Q: How did the idea of HydroMiner.org come about? Is this something you were doing before?
Well, interestingly enough, we met an investor how [sic] helped us rent and fill the first two hydro powered stations. Exactly how does a private citizen of Austria, viz. an entity sans a business charter, go about obtaining not one, but two contracts to install crypto mining farms in vacate buildings adjacent to power stations that gets its electricity from dams in the Austrian Alps? If HydroMiner was envisioned in 2016, then why did they wait till August 2017, to register hydrominer.org? (this question was asked at the beginning of this thread, but has never been addressed by the FUD buster thehun) Why did Nadine Damblon lie about when she and her sister, Nicole, started mining crypto along with what was initially mined, namely 2014/2015 and btc/eth, respectively? Further, why are there so many inconsistencies in the supposed facts that Nadine has advanced over the course of myriad interviews and Net content? The reason that I choose to ignore you is that I refuse to go down to your level of bad-mouthing, unfounded accusations and misogynistic language. You are saying about yourself more than anybody else could ever say, so any additional comments are simply superfluous. Had you come in a civilized manner we would have had no problem to engage in an educated discussion. You can't even get your facts straight, first according to you I was a member of HydroMiner just because I live in Germany (nice investigation work btw) and since you realized how stupid that was you are finding new ways attack me and the HydroMiner project. All I will say, as a reply to your last message is that it is perfectly possible for a private person to obtain energy (signing a contract) from a hydro station in Austria (as most are also owned by private individuals). There are more than 3100 small hydro stations in the country: http://www.kleinwasserkraft.at/You still didn't answer the question first posed at the beginning of this thread ask civilly by another: Why was the domain name registered a year after the supposed creation of the entity? To normal people it looks like HM just came onto the scene, then created the backstory to advance the scheme. You also skipped over the 2014/2015 issue. Please let me know if you desire proof of such, whereupon I'm ready to post at least two dozen examples. Noticed how I held my tongue as MD101 used foul language in addressing my civil post? What a retard guy ever, you held your fcking tongue because you can’t answer back what I replied Coz you fucking know you in the wrong spot. Why held back? Scare for any lawsuit or police knock down your door ? What ever you spit out just bullshit in that post. Just admit it. Don’t try to spin the shit saying you humble etc bullshit. Dumbass Such language. Much wow! Poor grammar. PS: Me no scare of lawsuits or police knocking on my door. My whereabouts are easily obtainable. How? My T-Mobile number is 702-981-5600, where they have my current address on file, an address so close to the Stratosphere here in Vegas that if it tipped over, I'd be underneath the rubble. Here, I'll give you hint: The first part of the street name is Santa, and if you get to Santa Rita, you've gone too far. Please try harder if you wanna get under my skin, for to date you've missed the mark by a country mile. PS: Please watch your language. I'm currently going through withdraws. Awww mr FUD shit is sad. Can’t even admit his fud post is fucking wrong, try to deflect the bullet If you post something wrong, admit it, don’t try to spin and change topic saying you generous humble bullshit No sad. Nothing to admit it wrong, for it's not FUD. You're the one deflecting the bullet, not I. The topic is still the same. I've changed nothing. Please try harder, bud. |
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