I find it odd that the last question gets so many No votes after Yes votes for 9.
9) Would it be morally wrong for you and the majority group to designate someone to hire someone to steal from me as long as that designation was called a 'vote' and the theft was called a 'tax' or 'fine'.
10) Would it be morally wrong for the majority to elect someone with their votes to hire tax agents and police to go collect taxes from me?
It could be the removal of 'you' in connection with the majority, and the resulting disassociation of responsibility it brings on the test taker. Or, it could be that people 'held out' their consent until it looked familiar. True...they probably just see the words 'you' and 'steal' and say it is immoral no matter what. When they reach the end and see something that is societally ok, they are all for it. |
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The need is the individuals are my parents, and they dont want me to have ANY money in it, and are about to force me to withdraw everything ive put into it, delete accounts etc.
Awesome. Tell them to try. Then tell them, the government would have just as difficult of a time doing so as well. |
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I find it odd that the last question gets so many No votes after Yes votes for 9.
9) Would it be morally wrong for you and the majority group to designate someone to hire someone to steal from me as long as that designation was called a 'vote' and the theft was called a 'tax' or 'fine'.
10) Would it be morally wrong for the majority to elect someone with their votes to hire tax agents and police to go collect taxes from me?
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1. Would it be morally wrong for you to steal money from me?
2. Would it be morally wrong for you to get someone else to steal from me?
3. Would it be morally wrong if you and a group of people got together to hire someone to steal from me?
4. Would it be morally wrong if you and the large group of people who hire someone to steal from me consisted of the majority of people in the area?
5. Would it be morally wrong for you and the majority group to designate someone to hire someone to steal from me?
6. Would it be morally wrong if you and the majority group hired someone to steal from me as long as that person wears a uniform and has an official sounding title?
7. Would it be morally wrong if you and the majority group designated someone to hire someone to steal from me as long as the person designated has an official title and wears nice outfits and works in a nice building?
8. Would it be morally wrong for you and the majority group to designate someone to hire someone to steal from me as long as the theft was called a tax or fine?
9. Would it be morally wrong for you and the majority group to designate someone to hire someone to steal from me as long as that designation was called a 'vote' and the theft was called a 'tax' or 'fine'.
10. Would it be morally wrong for the majority to elect someone with their votes to hire tax agents and police to go collect taxes from me?
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10/10. That's a good one; I'll be sharing it.
I would love to hear from people who don't get 10/10 and explain at which step it becomes moral, and why.
I do as well, there are certainly people out there who do not agree with #10 who do agree with #1. If you agree with #1 you should agree with the rest. I am more ok with those who believe #1 is moral, at least they are consistent. |
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I was lending BTC for a while but getting around 8% return was not worth me having my bitcoins on a third party site that is located in another country that is based on software from another site that disappeared with my money.
40% on LTC may get me to throw my LTC on there...
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I would imagine we would all change our ideologies as the forces around us change. Not that our ideology itself is changing but the relativity would be different.
I would imagine that if jews in prison camps during WWII were given a political quiz they would most likely return results leaning very libertarian and anarchist, basically not liking government one bit. I doubt any jews walking to the gas chambers were complaining about whether the 10 Commandments should be displayed in a school or not.
I believe that those that prefer smaller government would probably agree with each other to varying degrees of smaller government.
If we were to work toward getting the government to fit inside the confines of the Constitution it is something many people would be willing to work toward. But if that did happen, then there would be some people who are satisfied with it and others who think it is a good start and would want to start picking away at the worst parts of the Constitution such as the 16th Amendment and 17th. Once those were gone many would be satisfied but still others may believe that it is still too much while others are even dissatisfied with the Constitution in the first place.
The same probably goes for those who prefer more government. Many may be satisfied with socialism while others would want more and more control over their lives and move toward communism and fascism and beyond to total slavery to the state before they are truly happy.
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Not me.
Keep up the good work gents.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/BitSpend/comments/1go95b/updatenews_why_we_have_been_slow_and_taking/Chase bank and another bank, have both decided that we as a Bitcoin based business are "Too High Risk" of clients, and have frozen/shut down our accounts. We were NOT given notice, and we were simply told "your funds will be sent to you by check within 30 days". This is not something we were ever warned about, given notice of, or even received the courtesy of a phone call from the bank beforehand. This sucks. I was shopping online and wanted to buy something. I don't carry my debit card with me any more because I usually just use bitcoins via BitSpend. I think the solution to this is a decentralized BitSpend type of service. Have a p2p app, you sign up as a willing purchaser...someone enters a link to the product they want to buy, you submit your offer to buy it for them for BTC...based on your rating they go ahead and send you the BTC, you purchase it and have it shipped to the buyer. The key issue there would be the trust factor unless third party escrows could also be coded in.
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Entertaining the whole shuffling of chairs on the titanic seems fairly pointless. Should kids in government schools be allowed to do X or Y, should public libraries ban this or that, should speed limits on government roads be raised or lowered...
When is the last time there was any great debate whether or not McDonalds should bring back the McRib or whether Starbucks should call their large drinks a large?
Privatize the roads. QED
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Pennies an hour? Any decent disabled web developers out there? I would put them to work, they could compete against the Indians and Chinese that only charge a few dollars an hour.
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I suggest we collect lots of bitcoins together and buy a island before creating a p2p government system. We allow edward snowdon safety and other whistle blowers ( wiki leaks). We all live happily ever after while nuclear war enrages the earth!
And when the government that does not like what we are doing on one of their islands sends police and military, what should we do? |
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It would not be until the police strip searched me and found my private key tattooed on my penis that they would have access to my bitcoins.
That is why they call them your "privates".
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Uh oh, look at page 6. They're fucked. Nice of them to include Google advertisements in their legal document. |
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In the beginning stage it is more centralized than before, but I think later it will.
This rewards innovators...watching Bitcoin I have seen more and more reason why patents are not as necessary as one would think. You get in early with an idea and you are rewarded heavily for quite a while. But then competition moves in and everyone benefits. |
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Some whiners think that ASICs are centralizing everything because they cannot buy one and make a buttload of coins.
But ASICs are the end of the line for hardware advances up until quantum computing, and even then it is so far away and it would be years before the return on the processing power of a quantum computer could match an ASIC.
As it is, several companies are popping up to provide ASIC chips. And they are looking to mass produce these things. Meaning a future of millions of cheap ASICs to be used primarily for mining bitcoins. N00bs will be able to buy an ASIC on Amazon and have it delivered in a few days to be plugged in and run with very little knowledge of mining. Unlike GPU mining or even CPU mining.
This may not be the case right now, but after a year or so there will be tons of ASICs out there. They may even be embedded in other electronics like TV boxes that pay for TV shows via bitcoins mined from your ASIC chip. All you pay is electricity costs. Or free cell phones with embedded ASIC to pay for your service, just make sure you keep it charged.
The only way to speed things up through hardware is just to have more ASICs. There is no next step for a long time.
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I'm trying to figure out what Tulsa OK has to do with an island, anywhere.
Oklahoma is a bit flat, fairly dry and not known for it's island like climate. How this would have any connection to a "Bitcoin Island" anywhere on Earth is a bit of a mystery.
In middle of nowhere, far from civilization and comfortable living. Plus it is likely that OP lives near there or owns the site, hence the location. I have looked into island rentals. They would cost much more than the 30 BTC being collected. |
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It's probably worth point out that 5% return ON BITCOINS is amazing. If I could buy a low-risk asset that would give me 5% return on bitcoins... I would invest all of my bitcoins. The reason I haven't done this is that almost all of the options are very high risk... so may as well try for something that has high returns.
BitFinex gives yearly returns of around 8% APR compounded hourly. The risk is that BitFinex not disappear. |
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