It says this in the ANN: "****Note**** This is an announcement thread only. It may or may not be monitored by the ionomy.com team. If you would like to discuss ion, ionomy.com, or talk directly to the team and developers to call them scammers, please join us on our slack channel. Automatic invites are available at slack.ionomy.com, or by contacting us at support.ionomy.com****NOTE****" So I wouldn't hold your breath for responses here. Head over to Slack if you want to engage them in real time. http://slack.ionomy.comCould you just please tell them to post it here. Or ask them and post it here yourself. Making people go to some chatroom to ask simple questions that should be answered publicly for everyone to see - that's just one of many red flags. They already said in this thread that they would post it here. |
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I wonder why hackers keep going hunting for newbie or people without knowledge and they get the majority of the times something like 10-20 Bitcoins, I can understand thats a good sum but I want to give them a suggestion.
Why don't you go after ponzi scams, which are showing their paying address. Cldmine, topmine now show us their paying address in their latest transactions, you can get 200-300 BTC from them if you are experienced enough and do us all here a big favor remove ponzies and their supporters. I hope someone of them reads this.
We should all do something against them, apparently warning people has miserably failed so far.
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One Yobit I always play altcoin dice everytime I lost I always double my bet,double of the coin I lost so if I win one time I not only regain my lost but also gain,but I only play those coins that I got from their free coins and those low value coins,it's to risky if you have no control using this strategy ..
This is just a basic strategy called martingale. This is the most common strategy that even newbie can even use it, so it is not a big deal and you dont even need to take control of this strategy because the more balance you have it will guarantee more your chance of winning. Just need to set some good start only Martingale is a great way to lose all your money, don't do it. |
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Of all the gambling games that I have been into it seems the Roulette is the hardest one to win you need to be extremely lucky to win continuously,there is no strategy of course prayer can help and being positive..
There is always strategy in any gambling games but it will never work because gambling is depends on your luck although you have a super solid strategy and if you dont have any luck it will be pointless enough. the result is depends on your luck and some of your bankroll No. Strategy will not help in roulette because there is no strategy. Every method of putting chips on the board boils down to the same thing. Other gambling games DO involve strategy. That doesn't mean there is no luck involved, but your decision making can impact your odds of winning. Absurd examples from blackjack. It's much better to stay when you have 20 than to hit. It's much better to hit when you have 10 instead of staying. Doing the opposite in either one of those situations greatly impacts your odds of winning that particular hand. In other situations in blackjack the impact of your decisions on your result is smaller, but it still exists. You have a better chance of winning if you hit when you have 16 and the dealer has 10 than if you stay. You still need to be lucky to win, but that doesn't mean there is no strategy. |
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The odds of losing 67% to win 4 times in a row is 1.185921% (odds of losing is .33, odds of losing 4 in a row is .33*.33*.33*.33)
Can't tell how especially unlucky your situation is without knowing how many games you have played.
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Not all scams are created equally. Falling for the GAW scam shows especially low intelligence, especially in the field of concurrency, because it was obvious that GAW was a scam because it was impossible for what he was saying to be true.
the question about the google play/itunes store TOS that have been continually ignored this time are just like the questions about how "boosts" and hashlets worked with GAW. Just like us wondering why there was no evidence of GAW's mining power on blockchains. Just like wondering how the $20 floor made sense for GAW.
These are the same people giving similarly impossible promises. Don't be shocked when the result is shockingly similar.
Again, I'm not sure whether they're scammers or idiots, but both will end up with investors having nothing.
The problem here is that you have labelled this as a scam before it's even started. Some have made efforts to answer your questions but, you are don't appear to be looking for answers. You seem to only be looking for anything that supports the conclusion you have already come to. So there is nothing to learn from your dialogue. All crypto projects are EXTREMELY high risk whether they seem legit or not. I am not calling this a scam. I am wondering why the fuck anyone would touch anything matlack is involved in with a 10 foot pole. There is no middle ground, he was either involved in the GAW scam, or too stupid to see it for what it was. Now, a short time later, with one failed enterprise in between, he's here with his hand out asking for tons of money, and you guys are opening your wallets without asking the relevant questions. |
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Double-zero roulette has a house edge of 5.26%, single-zero roulette has a house edge of 2.70%, and French roulette (with en prison or la partage rule) has a house edge of 1.35%, all significantly higher than dice. So the best strategy is to avoid roulette and to play on games with lower edge.
your maths is hundred percent right. but please explain the phenomenon that dice apps on moneypot with HE of 0.02% to 0.1% are almost empty or even closed their sites already there are roulette players who will never touch dice and it does not matter to them how low the HE of a dice site is yup. people who play on roulette is not about trying to win on the house edge. they just enjoy on the thrill and the excitement of playing on the roulette. however, that does not also mean that they plan to lose too. so we are looking for a better way to play the game. It's not really an exciting game. It is pretty boring if you ask me. Spin the ball waiting for it to hit a number is really not that impressive. And playing poker, holding cards in your hand or throwing dice is more thrilling and impressing for you - and looks cooler? Because gambling is not about visual department being awesome, it is about thrill of the outcome and potential profits you can get. This is gambling not video game or VR app. If you are so thirsty of visual effect I guess instead of Roulette Slots might be good for you. i agree with maku, there's no best strategy in roulette. you better gambling with skill needed like poker or black jack, not gambling like roulette. edit : roulette is luck gambling you say that blackjack is a game in which you need skills? I say that is just as risky as roulette. the difference is only on the likelihood .. It's definitely just as risky (all bets you can make anywhere are risky, that's why they call it gambling) but there is skill involved in blackjack, there is no skill involved in roulette. Roulette is just luck, blackjack involves some decision making. Blackjack involves situations and decision making (besides just picking a number). Some situations in blackjack are impossible to win (you have 19, dealer has 20, next card in the shoe is a 10, you don't know that but whatever, you can't win no matter what) some are impossible to lose (you get blackjack) but in others you can make decisions that impact the result. You have 11 and the dealer has 6, do you hit, do you doble down? Do you stay for some insane reason? None of those will guarantee you a win, but one of those options is mathematically better than the other two. |
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Off topic. On topic, it's now over 17 hours since they were asked to provide evidence that they really have formed a company based in Singapore, and still there's nothing but silence on that front... It says this in the ANN: "****Note**** This is an announcement thread only. It may or may not be monitored by the ionomy.com team. If you would like to discuss ion, ionomy.com, or talk directly to the team and developers to call them scammers, please join us on our slack channel. Automatic invites are available at slack.ionomy.com, or by contacting us at support.ionomy.com****NOTE****" So I wouldn't hold your breath for responses here. Head over to Slack if you want to engage them in real time. http://slack.ionomy.comThis is horseshit. Now we have to officially question whether you are too stupid to comprehend basic english, or an asshole trying to pump and dump a bunch of rubes. user ionomy said in this thread that he would get the information and post it here. He doesn't need to monitor the thread any further to do that. He already saw the question, and said that he would answer it. If he was unable or unwilling to do that, he should have ignored it or said he wouldn't answer it. |
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@icocountdown.com You should get your fact right if you want a successful website, you have several errors in this post: Matlack was an investor that lost money with XPY and tried to redeem it with XPY.IO. Your bitcoin magazine reference actually stated that Matlack was at odds with Garza and declared its independence from GAW. Also no evidence of Matlack scamming anyone. Your second reference doesn't mention Matlack at all. Your third is a forum in which they call Matlack a scammer but also provide no evidence. Basically your references prove that Paycoin was a scam, most already know this. You show no evidence as to how Matlack was a part of the scam. Actually it uses Blackcoin (POS 3.0) with Dash Masternodes incorporated. The premine is laid out in detail here and is not as you describe: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#coin-overview• Initial coin supply: 10,900,000 IONs • 5 million IONs will be available through the Initial Coin Offering (ICO) in exchange for BTC and a wide selection of other cryptocurrencies. • 3.4 million IONs are allocated to ionomy.com and shall be distributed as structured incentives to gamers through the gaming applications designed by ionomy.com. • 2.5 million IONs are reserved to pay bounties for coin development. Paycoin had a dynamic percent return which could be changed at any time and had compounding returns. Ion will have a static return which is described here: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#staking-walletsAnd here: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#masternodesMaternodes won’t have a compound interest rate as it will have to remain a 20,000 block to remain a Masternode. Let's roll with your theory that he was 100% innocent in the GAW fiasco. He was too stupid to stop himself from losing money in an obvious scam. Then his next venture, xpy.io was an abject failure (as they have completely abandoned it and moved on to something else. Why are you so excited to join his team? Falling for a scam doesn't mean you don't have a mind for business. I'm not a part of the team, just a small time investor. I think it has the potential to bring in users that aren't even aware of crypto. Make some addictive mainstream type games in which users can export/import assets. It's a great idea if executed properly. The business plan hasn't been released and will better explain/answer a lot of questions that have been asked, in regards to how it will be successful. Not all scams are created equally. Falling for the GAW scam shows especially low intelligence, especially in the field of concurrency, because it was obvious that GAW was a scam because it was impossible for what he was saying to be true. the question about the google play/itunes store TOS that have been continually ignored this time are just like the questions about how "boosts" and hashlets worked with GAW. Just like us wondering why there was no evidence of GAW's mining power on blockchains. Just like wondering how the $20 floor made sense for GAW. These are the same people giving similarly impossible promises. Don't be shocked when the result is shockingly similar. Again, I'm not sure whether they're scammers or idiots, but both will end up with investors having nothing. |
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Also worth an email to Kathleen Shields at the SEC to let them know they'll have a new criminal to go after once they're done with Homero Garza. shieldska@sec.govSo Ion creates an ICO and you are going to report Matlack to the SEC? Bahahahaha, your credibility has reached zero. You say "Ion" as if it's some legitimate, respected company. It's just rebranded paycoin scam led by Homero Garza's best bud Adam. Go ahead and be blinded by your greed. Why don't you just give Matlack a bag of cash and walk away, it will be easier on all involved. Are you retarded? Ps. I spent almost 2 years trying to convince morons like you that Garza was a scammer. Who the fuck are you? The way you communicate really should give you a clue as to why absolutely nobody listens to you. I'm open to all reasonable discussion. I will try to keep this to your ridiculous definition of "reasonable" in hopes you or someone else can learn something and save some money in the future. Your definition of reasonable appears to be foolish, and your decision to only listen to and/or communicate with people who fit into that definition has already cost you a boatload of money, and it apears it will do that again in the future. If Person A says he will sell this thing to you for $4 and then buy it back from you for $20 in 2 months, and Person B says, "that makes no fucking sense, stop being an asshole scammer," although Person B used some colorful language, his statement was much more reasonable than person A's, because it had some basis of reality on this planet. You listened to Person A, and lost money before, so sticking to that idea doesn't seem that great. Stop worrying about HOW people communicate, and listen to what they are actually saying. Conmen always appear "reasonable" until they are running with your money. Sticking with the people that were heavily involved in GAW with Garza (when it was a complete scam) or after Garza (when it was completely hopeless and a waste of time, unless they were just plotting to rob everyone with something else later) seems insane to me. Again, people involved with GAW were either involved in the scam and too stupid to see it was a scam, I"m not sure who falls into which group, but I'm not going to touch anything involving either in the future. Some people just call everything a scam. In crypto you can be sure that even the most stupid people will be right some of the time. This is why facts / evidence to back up claims is required. When you separate ego from facts you are left with reasonable discussion. No coin has ever been launched that wasn't called a scam. How you communicate means everything - especially if you want people to listen. That's a terrible way to go through life. The people acting nicely are usually the one's trying to steal your money, the people acting rudely are trying to get you to save it. If you are going to hold them to the same standard you are going to end up fucked, again. In another post you said that it's sad that this is the "same people, same war," wouldn't you want to be on the side of the war that has been proven to be 100% right? Their message bay be a little rough, but doesn't the fact that they were able to see that GAW was s scam from day 1 prove that they have some knowledge that may be helpful to you in the future? We have all the facts on GAW now, they weren't "lucky" that they called everything a scam and got this one right. You can now see that the miners didn't exist, that there was no deal with amazon, that paycoin never made sense, etc. Those that don't study history are doomed to repeat it, if the "same war" of Gaw haters vs Gaw lovers is going on, I know which side I would be on, because 1 side saw GAW for exactly what it was, and the other side was either implicit in the scam or too dumb to see it. |
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Roulette has very strange odds but i like to place bet there but mostly with no-deposit bonus to give try luck there risk free, my favorite strategy is to place bet on 0 because it has very decent payout if i had some luck than i made some profit otherwise got busted like many other people.
So our expectations are quite different .. the last two hours I played roulette and bet only red + 0 .. in 20 shots 0 comes once .. I am afraid that this is not the best strategy .. [/quote 0 "should" only come once out of every 37 or 38 times, so 1 out of 20 is actually pretty lucky. Every strategy works the same, get lucky and win or lose. |
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@icocountdown.com You should get your fact right if you want a successful website, you have several errors in this post: Matlack was an investor that lost money with XPY and tried to redeem it with XPY.IO. Your bitcoin magazine reference actually stated that Matlack was at odds with Garza and declared its independence from GAW. Also no evidence of Matlack scamming anyone. Your second reference doesn't mention Matlack at all. Your third is a forum in which they call Matlack a scammer but also provide no evidence. Basically your references prove that Paycoin was a scam, most already know this. You show no evidence as to how Matlack was a part of the scam. Actually it uses Blackcoin (POS 3.0) with Dash Masternodes incorporated. The premine is laid out in detail here and is not as you describe: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#coin-overview• Initial coin supply: 10,900,000 IONs • 5 million IONs will be available through the Initial Coin Offering (ICO) in exchange for BTC and a wide selection of other cryptocurrencies. • 3.4 million IONs are allocated to ionomy.com and shall be distributed as structured incentives to gamers through the gaming applications designed by ionomy.com. • 2.5 million IONs are reserved to pay bounties for coin development. Paycoin had a dynamic percent return which could be changed at any time and had compounding returns. Ion will have a static return which is described here: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#staking-walletsAnd here: https://github.com/ionomy/ion/wiki/ION-Technical-Whitepaper#masternodesMaternodes won’t have a compound interest rate as it will have to remain a 20,000 block to remain a Masternode. Let's roll with your theory that he was 100% innocent in the GAW fiasco. He was too stupid to stop himself from losing money in an obvious scam. Then his next venture, xpy.io was an abject failure (as they have completely abandoned it and moved on to something else. Why are you so excited to join his team? |
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People talked facts at the time with GAW and you ignored them.. how do you respond to this. Some facts people raised at the time
1. No pool or individual new pool increased the hash rate needed on the claims garza made.
2. No proof was shown when requested of the actual hashing facility minus and after a lot of time a dark warehouse single row that clearly looking through showed no other rows (btw mordica knew this... he was on that xpy.io or dev or whatever shit that everyone on hashtalk followed after)
3. after requesting proof of amazon, target, etc garza reneged and the shillers i.e. you criticised accusers for garzas lack of proof without questioning him.
4. After all the requests of proof for the actual stories going out i.e. time, cnn, forbes etc we saw some shitty wall street journal paid advert etc. Even after these requests by people and none coming you all still said these publications take time.
Those were all facts and many more and you ignored them back then.... how would you respond to actual facts now? You come here trying to act reasonable yet want to forget your past placing all blame on garza... take some responsibility. I doubt with any such fact acqusations you'd even listen or consider. Correct me if im wrong. Seems the same old shit to me.
I made a very bad investment and never even came here once to find what anyone was saying. So it's not that I ignored it, I didn't even look. I was late to the GAW game, so I was taking much of my "advice" from existing long-time GAW investors. That was a huge mistake because of course they got scammed too. Me being here right now is completely different to 18 months ago. I made not a single visit or comment here. This is how it's different now. People posted that stuff on hashtalk... they were called fudders there everyone on that forum including you saw it. Also the shadow bans and shit and josh's constant o this is a glitch that is a glitch. remember when his emails came out and people still weren't believing? Calling them fake etc It started a whole argument and BitcoinBoner said it was possible to hack SHA-256 with a normal computer in just a few days. People even came up with ideas how that (encrypted/verified) header/email could be faked. It was hilarious. Garza even admitted that that Google group was made public on accident and people STILL thought it was fake! ION is going to be a coin with the same 100 or so people that enjoy riding a long con. You could hand them a dollar bill, tell them it's a dollar bill and they wouldn't believe you that it's a one dollar bill. Even though it is physically in their hand. That sorta mental this bunch is. Of course they don't know what a dollar bill looks like, did you see what they thought a $20 bill looked like? Imagine the confusion if they tried to hand out $20 bills now with the changing picture. |
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Mmmmm delicious cloudmining nonsense! Not sure if you're looking to support more cloudmining outfits, or you're directly involved, either way we'll break this down! $189usd/TH = $888usd/4.7TH or roughly the price of an S7 w/ PSU Maintenance fees = .0009usd/gh = $.9usd/th = $4.23usd maintenance @ 4.7th = ~$0.14usd/kwh 4.7th x .0029btc/th/day (bitcoinwisdom @ current diff) = .01363btc/day = $6.13usd/day (diminishing) Total take $6.13 - $4.23 = $1.90/day at current difficulty and price $1.90/day to pay off an $888 investment = 467 days if nothing changes, with the halving coming ROI is utter nonsense. Withdrawal is available 24/7. All withdrawals are processed by our system automatically and it will be very fast to receive your Bitcoin in your wallet. But it may take a little longer for manual review if it’s a big amount to guarantee safety and avoid hacking attempts. Scammy nonsense for "If you have a lot of BTC, anticipate BS withdrawing it" Cloud hashing power indicates your ability to mine crypto-coins. The more hashing power you have, the more ROI you will get. Hashing power is the underlying driving force for the entire crypto-currency network. Cloud hashing power provides mining service in the “cloud” and support in the network in general. This line is intentionally misworded, your ROI will always be a % of your investment. Of course if you invest more you earn more, but it certainly does not compound. 5.6 PH/s hashing power with the electricity cost as low as 15 cents per kWH According to this line here, assuming they don't have some new miner more efficient than the s7, they're barely making money whether BTC, LTC, or ETH, and will fail after the halving unless the price skyrockets. OXBTC provides the most profitable cryptocurrency deposit investment and the foundation for its high ROI is its 3 mining farms which are among the largest ones in China and they are run under very low electricity cost and highly efficient operation.
Directly contradicting the previous statement. If they are charging ~$0.14usd/kWh maintenance (assuming s7 efficiency), and they claim to pay $0.15usd/kWh electricity, how are they still in business unless this is another fancy ponzi? This page is full of lies [Biggest mining farm? Maybe. Where is the hashrate on the network?] and inconsistencies [200 acres for 10PH!?!? WTF do they do with the other 198 acres?] . I do not go around calling all cloudmining a scam, but they could try a lot harder! Hi Erumara, Thank you for your feedback. If they are not transparent the why they disclose their mining location and their payout address? Thank youCryptoJewelerWhere is this payout address? How are they earning the interest paid in the "deposit" system there? |
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Also worth an email to Kathleen Shields at the SEC to let them know they'll have a new criminal to go after once they're done with Homero Garza. shieldska@sec.govSo Ion creates an ICO and you are going to report Matlack to the SEC? Bahahahaha, your credibility has reached zero. You say "Ion" as if it's some legitimate, respected company. It's just rebranded paycoin scam led by Homero Garza's best bud Adam. Go ahead and be blinded by your greed. Why don't you just give Matlack a bag of cash and walk away, it will be easier on all involved. Are you retarded? Ps. I spent almost 2 years trying to convince morons like you that Garza was a scammer. Who the fuck are you? The way you communicate really should give you a clue as to why absolutely nobody listens to you. I'm open to all reasonable discussion. I will try to keep this to your ridiculous definition of "reasonable" in hopes you or someone else can learn something and save some money in the future. Your definition of reasonable appears to be foolish, and your decision to only listen to and/or communicate with people who fit into that definition has already cost you a boatload of money, and it apears it will do that again in the future. If Person A says he will sell this thing to you for $4 and then buy it back from you for $20 in 2 months, and Person B says, "that makes no fucking sense, stop being an asshole scammer," although Person B used some colorful language, his statement was much more reasonable than person A's, because it had some basis of reality on this planet. You listened to Person A, and lost money before, so sticking to that idea doesn't seem that great. Stop worrying about HOW people communicate, and listen to what they are actually saying. Conmen always appear "reasonable" until they are running with your money. Sticking with the people that were heavily involved in GAW with Garza (when it was a complete scam) or after Garza (when it was completely hopeless and a waste of time, unless they were just plotting to rob everyone with something else later) seems insane to me. Again, people involved with GAW were either involved in the scam and too stupid to see it was a scam, I"m not sure who falls into which group, but I'm not going to touch anything involving either in the future. |
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There is not really a strategy to play roulette. The safest way to do it is to bet on only red or black, this is the safest way to do it. You will not make much money when you win a round but it is the safest with the highest chance of winning.
I think this thing make sense and you can even do it with martingale too because red or black is almost 50% winning chance so martingale will work on here. But I ever try some strategy which is already well known but I keep on losing it. I dont know what is that means so if I play on roulette I will just bet on red or black with martingale I think it is safer rather than other startegy Martingale will not work on red/black (or anything) because your odds of winning if you bet on red or black are not 50%. Every strategy in roulette works exactly the same. You bet $100, the casino takes 2.70 if there is one 0 on the wheel, and 5.26 if it has 0 and 00. That's it. |
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Why are you so accepting of the fact that he was scammed?
He knew garza before. He "worked" there. What did he do there? He was so close that if he actually got scammed he is too stupid to be trusted on anything else (especially with the evidence we have now.)
Where is his full side of the story of what happened there? it's not in that long thread. I would hope you (or anyone) would have his full side of the story before getting into bed with him again, for your own sake.
Asking Garza if he was a scammer would be pointless, he'd just lie, so there's no point as you couldn't believe the answer. For me, I look at the external facts. He has not been arrested, he is not wanted by the FBI, Garza has not claimed he was an accomplice, he is completely transparent in his home address and cellphone number, and some 16 months has passed for law enforcement agencies to do their enquiries. So I have no reason to believe he was acting with Garza (who incidentally scammed anyone and everyone, unconditionally including his friends, his co-workers, his investors - hence why he is a wanted man). Any claims that Matlack scammed people are just claims but in reality, the actions of the authorities and lack of any evidence to the contrary are compelling enough for me. Besides, for many months with XPY I have seen him in action and he seems like a really nice, honest guy. (This is NOT investment advice!) You did not answer the question. Forget what matalack did after garza. What did he do when garza was still in the picture? What was his job? How did he not see that the company was fraudulent? What is his explanation for what HE did while employed by GAW? |
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I suspect the only reason they've suddenly created an ANN thread for this is because the buying of their ICO has slowed down. They need to drum up more interest in the project to get more sales in; hence the press releases and this. Not surprising really given how limited the initial pool of 'investors' will have been from talkXPY/XPY.io.
For what it's worth I don't believe that Matlack and his team are scammers, but I do believe this is an ill conceived idea that will be dead in the water before long. With the greatest of respect, as this new team is mostly the same as the team behind XPY.io the best indicator of their potential success is what they did with that, and they hardly set the world alight. Honestly while they keep blaming XPYs ties to Garza for XPY.io's failure, they were fools to even try it in the first place, and even more foolish to stick with it as long as they did -- that for me calls into question the decision making of Matlack et al.
Most of the early investors were XPY investors because of the ease of the swap option. I for one am thankful for Matlack (and his team) to have built XPY.io and to have tried where many others would not have even made an attempt. My XPY would have be truly worthless if it wasn't for XPY.io, so that project had value for hundreds of people that got scammed by Garza. At least in the end I swapped my XPY rather than dumping them on to some poor unsuspecting buyer who thinks it might recover one day. I hope we can discuss ION reasonably, on it's own merits and particulars as this way we will get much more use out of the discussion. I admittedly have not followed everything the non-garza gaw crew has said, so I may have missed something, but how can you trust matalack? Or anyone who actually worked for GAW? Looking at the info we have now, it is obvious that gaw was a scam from the first time they typed the word hashlet. How can anyone involved from that point be trusted with anything? They were either in on the scam, and shouldn't be trusted, or too stupid to see the scam, and shouldn't be trusted. What has matalack done to show he's trustworthy at all? Where is his explanation for his role in the Gaw mess? Why would you take part in his new venture without understanding his role in the last? Matlack was scammed by GAW and lost a ton of money. Spent the following year trying to pick up the pieces and make the doomed project work. A lot of people were scammed by GAW. I see no reason to distrust someone because they got scammed. There's a 2,200 page GAW/XPY thread and if you can cut through all the Ego talk and noise, there's some useful tidbits in there. Why are you so accepting of the fact that he was scammed? He knew garza before. He "worked" there. What did he do there? He was so close that if he actually got scammed he is too stupid to be trusted on anything else (especially with the evidence we have now.) Where is his full side of the story of what happened there? it's not in that long thread. I would hope you (or anyone) would have his full side of the story before getting into bed with him again, for your own sake. |
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I suspect the only reason they've suddenly created an ANN thread for this is because the buying of their ICO has slowed down. They need to drum up more interest in the project to get more sales in; hence the press releases and this. Not surprising really given how limited the initial pool of 'investors' will have been from talkXPY/XPY.io.
For what it's worth I don't believe that Matlack and his team are scammers, but I do believe this is an ill conceived idea that will be dead in the water before long. With the greatest of respect, as this new team is mostly the same as the team behind XPY.io the best indicator of their potential success is what they did with that, and they hardly set the world alight. Honestly while they keep blaming XPYs ties to Garza for XPY.io's failure, they were fools to even try it in the first place, and even more foolish to stick with it as long as they did -- that for me calls into question the decision making of Matlack et al.
Most of the early investors were XPY investors because of the ease of the swap option. I for one am thankful for Matlack (and his team) to have built XPY.io and to have tried where many others would not have even made an attempt. My XPY would have be truly worthless if it wasn't for XPY.io, so that project had value for hundreds of people that got scammed by Garza. At least in the end I swapped my XPY rather than dumping them on to some poor unsuspecting buyer who thinks it might recover one day. I hope we can discuss ION reasonably, on it's own merits and particulars as this way we will get much more use out of the discussion. I admittedly have not followed everything the non-garza gaw crew has said, so I may have missed something, but how can you trust matalack? Or anyone who actually worked for GAW? Looking at the info we have now, it is obvious that gaw was a scam from the first time they typed the word hashlet. How can anyone involved from that point be trusted with anything? They were either in on the scam, and shouldn't be trusted, or too stupid to see the scam, and shouldn't be trusted. What has matalack done to show he's trustworthy at all? Where is his explanation for his role in the Gaw mess? Why would you take part in his new venture without understanding his role in the last? |
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Just want to point out that these "articles" are really just press releases paid for by the same people who have been promising to "fix" xpy for a bit and finally gave up to start over again. I'm sure they will have a better result, especially after starting with the same press release/huge premine/exchange worthless thing for new coin playbook that Mr. Ganza used. |
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