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8841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price just broked $650, so we next stop will be $700 by end of this week on: November 04, 2016, 10:44:56 PM
Today Price bounces by $20 overnight and today is first day of this week so i think we are heading towards $700 which may get touched by end of this week, what are your speculation.

How much you guys have right now and will you short some when it reach $700 again or not?

This target of $700 was achieved and that's good that you are optimistic and a lot of people here are too, I was very optimistic that the price will reach $800 by the end of this week as the trending price was really going good.

the price reach above $700 for last week ago and we can see that the highest price for this year, and now the trend its going down. i hope that will not go to deep and will gets up for next week.
8842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going all in on a Hillary win bet on: November 04, 2016, 10:42:23 PM
i am not going to make all in on hillary to win bet, maybe i will only make 30% until 50% of my money but for the true, i think i will not thinking about this election because i don't know what will happen with US country if one of them, trump or hillary, win the election.
8843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much amount of bet you prefer? on: November 04, 2016, 10:34:54 PM
i never take too much from my wallet and i think the biggest amount that i am do when i make bet is only 0.005 btc and its not makes me to win some money. i will not put the risk with my bitcoin so i will stick for the amount and if i can win then i am luck in the games.
8844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is the best coin to buy on polo now? on: November 04, 2016, 10:32:50 PM
i don't think this is the right time to make investment because almost all altcoin has decrease too much for the price. rather to make middle and long investment, i will go with short investment because i think we don't want to keep the coins too long when we can see that the price is going up and down quickly, better to play safe and still to make some profit.
8845  Other / Archival / Re: Nice dip to buy more cheap BTC on: November 04, 2016, 10:27:42 PM
How low do you think the price will go??

no one know, but i was saying to no hold your breath there might be more chance for more cheaper coins than what you are buying now, but for me i think the price will not go under 600 again, i would consider buying above that point, secure enough

even for the pro don't know how much the price will go. but i think, for now, the price is really down too far and like you bro, i am hoping that the same as you. but we don't know what will happen in middle of november until christmas and new year. i hope the price is going up again.
8846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 04, 2016, 10:21:19 PM

I do not know the exact number of wins and defeats me in gambling, but the exact amount of my loss greater than victory. I often bet on sports betting and sometimes also on the dice. But I gambled in small quantities and with restrictions, so I always deposited some bitcoin for gambling usually around 0:06 BTC and that I use for some games. And if the result I would not bet again.
You do not know because you do not track your loses, typical gamblers do that, we do not care of our loses but what matters to us is our winnings, therefore we are so bias or unfair because what we remember is only the happy moment of our life in gambling.

Quite true. most of the time gamblers never track their loses because they always aim to win no matter how much money they lose but still striving to win. Fun and entertainment is there but for them it's the money at stake they are hoping for to win.

and finally if we make calculate and compare between how much we loss and how much we win, the difference number is not too far and maybe we still get loss after the calculate. so all in all, our winning still get less than our winning. for my gambling, i never make some calculation too because i am not thinking too much about the winning.
8847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Someone converted 0.0698 BTC to 1.1168 BTC on BitcoinBetting.website !!! on: November 04, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
that guy is very luck when he can win the games with only make a bet 0.0698btc and its not all of us which have this luck. i think its only few people which have a good luck like this and yes when we playing gambling, we need the best luck like that guy so we can win the games too.
8848  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is it safe to keep all your Bitcoins in one wallet? on: November 04, 2016, 10:09:56 PM
i would not suggested to keep all of our bitcoin in one wallet because if something bad happen then we can loss all of our bitcoin, so better to spread your bitcoin into many wallet and don't forget to activate 2FA. don't put all your egg in one basket.
8849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learn how to gamble on: November 04, 2016, 03:57:26 AM
maybe the book or some tutorial if for some old time gambling, and its not for this time because i see that gambling itself is being growth form time to time so the best guideline or tutorial for playing gambling is trial and error like other jobs. maybe with some practice, we can learn new strategy that can work with us and win the games.
8850  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do people around you think about Bitcoin ? on: November 04, 2016, 03:55:10 AM
People around me have not make any act after i explain about bitcoin and i can not push them to use bitcoin, maybe they think and want to see the real proof so they can really thinking that bitcoin is another solution for investment. so far, i can not make any proof, i mean, i can not make big proof like example i can buy car, home, phonecell. but i believe that i can make a good proof to them that bitcoin is really a good thing that we can do to make money.
8851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 04, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
i believe that win in gambling is depend on luck because if we only have skill but we don't have luck, then we can not win in every time we gambling. for me, luck factor is important to win in gambling but as i am not play gambling as often like other people, i don't mind if i don't have a good in luck.
8852  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes in trading that lead to loss of money on: November 04, 2016, 03:34:34 AM
Another mistake is panic buying and panic selling. It's better to set up sell orders and buy orders based on a plan rather than just selling and buying on emotion.

its true and we should controlling our emotion when we see that there is panic buy and sell in market. but for personally i have this experience and this just make me loss much because in that time, there is dump for the price, and i am forgot to analyze the market. i sell it for low price but after 30 minutes, the price is back normal. its really sad but i consider to make it as a lesson for me.
8853  Economy / Speculation / Re: I'm dumping my bitcoins so you should on: November 04, 2016, 03:29:42 AM
is there another big rise on the way?

because whenever i see these negative topics being bumped and also the known FUDsters start new topics like today, there is always a big rise happening shortly after because they have been trying to fill their pocket with more BTC.
You have got the point.Those who have inside news trying to create panic to get people sell their coins.
I suggest we should hold for 3-4 months

I think it is the good time to buy some bitcoins now. If those guys want us to sell, we should buy instead.

if you are sure that this is the good time to buy, then get hurry to buy before its too late. and yes for today, the rate is going down than before and i am not sure if the price will going up for sometime. but in case, if we want to buy, at least make a little test to make sure that the price is just down for temporary and will be up in tomorrow.
8854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of Banning Bitcoin ? on: November 04, 2016, 03:27:07 AM
I think everthing will be good with bitcoin andd he will just grow and many pupils will become rich because of bitcoin.

You are out of the context, the thread is all about banning bitcoin and you are saying way too far from it.

I think the effect of it will startled the bitcoin people to keep on doing something to keep on the usage of bitcoin and no one will ever stop them from doing it because many are holders of bitcoin and they want to use for their own sake.
Yes you are right. Bitcoin will not really banned if so many people still using bitcoin. Whatever goverment do for stop people from using bitcoin is in vain. People have freedom from access internet, even goverment cooperated with isp to banned bitcoin.

True. Unless the whole world bans bitcoin, it will stay relevant. Or possibly the whole internet gets killed or it organically destroys bitcoin connected transactions, then we will still see bitcoin being used.

if the whole world bans bitcoin, i am not sure that bitcoin community will not react. there will be something to do with the banned of bitcoin, so people still can use bitcoin. but its different if internet gets killed, and this can make anything in chaos, because for now, the technology is like primary need for every people, not just for people in office but people in home too.
8855  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if we use a one currency only? on: November 04, 2016, 03:20:20 AM
then there is only strong country will survive and the small country will collapse with fast as each country is not the same for many aspect, there is still many different we can found in each country, like in economy, people society, money growth in that country, fluctuation and else and if we only use one currency, imagine what will be happen with the small and poor country. this can make big world war than we can not imagine.
8856  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i safe from scamer members.. on: November 04, 2016, 03:00:48 AM
my suggestion is don't make a deal with the person you don't know and if you want to make a deal, make sure that person have a good reputable in this forum but its not guarantee too. the best is be careful to make a deal especially if the transaction need to paid for big btc.
8857  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: The best cloud mining site !!! on: November 04, 2016, 02:58:17 AM
Almost all cloudmining sites are scams. Maybe hashnest and genesis mining are exceptions, but not many reports of people who have had good results there. In fact there are many reports of low profits or even losses.

Today is really hard to find cloud mining which really pays the member and we should careful to choose, but for hashnest and genesis, i think they still good until now, but if you want to make invest on their site, you can not make ROI in just 8 month, especially if you only buy minimal hashrate on their site because you should think how much you can get in a day with that small hashrate.
8858  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Did you already lose your BTCs on an online Wallet? on: November 04, 2016, 02:40:46 AM
i have this experience on poloniex and i think its because of my vault. i am forgot to activate 2FA and email verification to check the IP that i use when i login on that website. i already ask with their support system, they tell me that they can help to trace the wallet and the IP that login into my account but they can not do anything with my btc. fatal mistake that i am do in the past and i hope it wouldn't happen again in future.
8859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Exchange markets for altcoin on: November 02, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
1) Go to kraken and deposit USD|EUR
2) Buy bitcoins on kraken
3) Withdraw your bitcoins from kraken to Poloniex (biggest altcoins volume market)

When you want to cash-out :

4) Sell all your altcoins on Poloniex for bitcoins
5) Withdraw your bitcoins from poloniex to kraken
6) Sell your bitcoins on kraken
7) Withdraws your $$ from kraken

thank you,

i did deposit euro with Kraken, now the question is:
how can i avoid keeping my money/bitcoin  etc in these online exchange markets as i have seen that they are not that secure.
Is there a way to trade on poloniex but still keep my bitcoin in my own wallet?
or how a good/safe trading procedure would look like (broken down on steps) considerint that now i have  euro on kraken. how to i get to trade on poloniex but keep the bitcoin/altcoin safe
and yeah..

how do you keep your other altcoins safe?(avoiding online wallets)



you can trying offline wallet or use android phone as bitcoin wallet for all or half of your bitcoin or you can spread all of your bitcoin. you can trade on poloniex for half of your bitcoin and the rest you can hold it on your own wallet. first, you need to buy bitcoin on kraken but wait for low price first and after you have your bitcoin, then you can withdraw it into poloniex bitcoin wallet and then you can start to trade in poloniex with btc-usd or btc-alt.

i will install offline wallet in my pc and i already did this for now and i still holding some of coins in my offline wallet in my pc.
8860  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What stops you from opening a local bitcoin exchange business? on: November 02, 2016, 02:00:33 PM
i think i don't have much bitcoin to start local bitcoin exchange business because as far as i know, its really need much of money and bitcoin because we are giving our services to our friends for first and the order is really need some money and bitcoin. maybe if i have much bitcoin and much money, i will open my local bitcoin exchange business because i see the profit is really good.
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