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8501  Economy / Speculation / Re: 780 broken.. 500 .. maybe even 220-240 again... ? on: January 12, 2017, 04:32:27 PM
Get some  buying ready around 220-240.. ?! :S  not looking good boys.

I guess you need more proof for this one so we believe in you, because once people believe and start selling their bitcoin or convert into fiat because of the "crash" you stated it might totally cause the bitcoin value crash which everyone doesn't like to happen...

i think maybe there is people that ready to buy in that range of price but i don't think that the price will going to that price because many people don't want to see this price again and they will do anything to stay in up to $700 and i think we are going to make a new stable price soon.
8502  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: January 12, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
for people in out from bitcoin industry then they will choose to holding of gold than bitcoin because they don't know anything about bitcoin but  we are know in bitcoin industry then for me i will holding of bitcoin than gold and it is because i can not buy gold right now and i need to earn more money to buy gold so its better to holding of bitcoin than nothing.
8503  Economy / Economics / Re: What is going on, who is selling at these prices? on: January 12, 2017, 04:26:11 PM
I just dont get it.  Huh i have been in bitcoin since 2012 so i understand the ups and downs in price.  i have also been acquiring bitcoin since then.  but i just dont understand the how people can still be selling at below $800. 

is it just people who are recent into the market ?  i thought it was abit early for ATH last week but i didnt expect a pull back to below $800. 

what ya thinking?

i think the has got panic situation when they see that bitcoin is going down to deep and they don't want to hold bitcoin any longer so they decide to sell their bitcoin in $800 or below. maybe they bought bitcoin in high price so when the price is down, they don't want to get loss so they sell the bitcoin too fast.
8504  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: which coin to trade base on thier statistics? on: January 12, 2017, 04:23:06 PM

if you are to start trading on altcoins, what sort of consideration should check before buying?

Should you chose Ripple because of their high volume per day yet the price is just cents and the total supply is 33 trillion or should I chose go to trade with low supply like Monero because the price is more than $10?

What are the things you consider before buying a coin, its Market Cap, Price, Available Supply and volume?


i will check the coins in the market for the movement from time to time, check the history in the past, watching the chart for the trends and many more. then if i am sure with the coins, then i will prepare to buy that coins but before i buy, i will check the last time in coinmarket for the volumes. ripple can be a good option but you need to check many things before you buy, monero is good too like ripple.
8505  Economy / Speculation / Re: $200 is on the way on: January 12, 2017, 04:19:38 PM
We Šan $ee the priŠe now, $200 i$ on the way. Š2017

too much expectations to see that bitcoin will go down into $200 and i don't think that we are back into that price again but for sure, the price will be back increase in other times in this year. many people won't let this happen and we know that many people is hold their bitcoin and wait the price is up again.
8506  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Maybe I'm just stupid but... on: January 12, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
collateral is something that you should offer to the lenders when you want to borrows some money but its depend from the deal. because we see that if we want to borrows something with my friends, we don't have to make collateral and this could be of trust from our friends. i am sorry if this is wrong but i only know like this.
8507  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: January 12, 2017, 04:13:06 PM
i think that people don't know about bitcoin because there is a few place that introduce bitcoin into public and people still thinking that bitcoin is just a part of internet and maybe they don't know that bitcoin can be a way for them to make money. the other reason is they don't care about bitcoin and they don't think that bitcoin is new technology that will helped them to make money.
8508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When did you begin using Bitcoin? on: January 12, 2017, 04:08:52 PM
i begin using bitcoin in 2016 but i am forgot the month. first i know bitcoin is by search engine and i really don't know what is bitcoin, i only search and search in many website. finally, i know that bitcoin is a new technology and offering something new for bitcoin user so i think well its a new for me and from time to time i learned, i am interesting with bitcoin. and now, i am still use bitcoin and want to earn more bitcoin from many source that i know.
8509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your average bet per game? on: January 12, 2017, 04:05:40 PM
as now i am trying to make limit for myself, then i make only small bet and i think its only for 0.0005 satoshi and i think i can do in lower than that amount. i know i will not make much of money but for me its enough and i don't playing gambling in a day but just in for hours.
8510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: January 12, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Im agree withyou playing gambling can be easily doubled our bankroll in short time for example we do deposit 0.01 bitcoin and then we make it doubling. Sometimes i withdrew my initial deposit to try my luck on my profit yes i somehow i make it doubled again but not continuously winning. If you had luck play and play till you lose your 3x winning Smiley
Or it can easily wipe out your entire balance like within just few minutes very easily. There is no easiest way to make profit from gambling. Pure luck is all you need. No strategy, nothing.

if we only win for one or two times in a games, i think it could be possible but to winning all in the games then its not possible and there is no easiest way to make big profit in gambling and we should know that we only can win if we have luck in that games.
8511  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin: Commodity, Store of Value or Digital Currency? on: January 08, 2017, 04:14:36 AM
first i know bitcoin, i don't think its commodity, store of value or digital currency, i think in that time, i only know that bitcoin can help me to earn money. but from time to time i learn bitcoin, i think bitcoin is store of value and include with digital currency for the future, because i see that bitcoin have this chance to be one currency that could be use by all people from all country without any difference than fiat which is need to be convert first in the local fiat if we want to buy something.
8512  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading between exchanges? on: January 08, 2017, 04:09:14 AM
From what I can see, the price margin between btc-e and bitfinex for BTC/USD as of right now is 49 USD.
Is it feasible to buy BTC from btc-e, and sell on bitfinex? Or do the fees completely kill the profit?
Has anyone tried something like this?

i think this trading is called arbitrage, i am sorry if i am wrong. i think its worth to do this but you should make estimate how long the process for sending the amount from one wallet into other wallet in each of market exchange so you can get that profit. we can not predict how long the time the amount can arrive in destination wallet as i am sure that many people will want this opportunity too like you so you should think twice before you do this.
8513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China New Year on: January 08, 2017, 04:05:17 AM
i think with china new year, people in china which have bitcoin will withdraw their bitcoin with fiat, and celebrate the new year with their friends and family. i think the price of bitcoin will get down as we know that big bitcoin is in china and they can make the price to be fluctuate and we see this in china trading market. but i hope that the price is not going down too deep.
8514  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat? on: January 08, 2017, 04:02:22 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

I'm convert at local exchange and consider as my friend (friends of my friend Grin).
He give me good price and decent fee just like 0.04% for every transaction as I convert in small amount such as BTC0.05-0.1
Faster and trusted exchange I think, just sometimes he's busy and I have to be patient waiting for transaction.
I suggest to looking for local exchange in Facebook or bitcoin community in HongKong, There must be some of them offered convert services.

yup me too, i am prefer to exchange with my friends too because i know him and he is one of my closest friends so i am believe him, and for the % fee, sometime my friend don't want to take any fees because he make big profit with the other people that withdraw with him. but i think i am pay my fee is about 0.1 % as i don't thinking much with fees.
8515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: January 08, 2017, 03:57:54 AM
I am just wondering if you still would gamble if you would have enough money? I mean, now as it is, do you gamble for the fun or for the profit?

i will continue to playing gambling but i will not use the biggest money to make a bet because i don't like to see that big money is just for loss, i only want to use small amount like before. i'd prefer to make invest with them so i can earn more money.
8516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Sports Gambling sites? on: January 08, 2017, 03:54:30 AM
Recommendations? And do they payout promptly?

i am choose with sportbet.io and nitrogensport.io, i think their payout is normal like other gambling site, as i am not to often to make a bet in that sites.

i think you should give details about what you want to ask so the other can give their recommendation for you.

what do you want requirement about best sport betting gambling site

1 about the biggest odd
2 fast and instant withdraw

if your chose number 2, directbet is the best because without register you want match bet, only send you choose match
after match end you can receive payment, without register, without deposit

directbet can be option for number 2 because i am playing with that site in the past. for the biggest odd, i don't know much, i am not play with biggest but small odd.
8517  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: January 07, 2017, 12:04:52 PM
Impossible to happen cause the circumstances is it will change global economic processes. US government won't allow that even other countries.
every thing is possible in this world, but it look like difficult in near future, actually USD is one of the most popular and stable fiat currency and most of the countries are also depending it for their economic where bitcoin is a new currency and still it has a lot of time to become so mature to replace bitcoin.

yes its true, USD still use in many country as the purpose in trade, we know almost all of the price is follow with dollar, when dollar is up then the product is up. and i don't think that bitcoin will replace dollar soon because the percentage of people which is using bitcoin is low depend people which is using dollar. but maybe in future, bitcoin will replace dollar.
8518  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has gone beyond gold prices on: January 07, 2017, 12:01:39 PM
Bitcoin has now exceeded the gold price, is the choice of bitcoin or gold?

Bitcoin ofcourse. The price of this coin is increasing and decreasing easily in short of time. I dont know in gold price if the same. But I want bitcoin ofcourse because im earning here and trade it even  if i have only small amount of money.
yes that is a fact, in my area the price of bitcoin is almost double the price of Gold, but there is a lot  of fluctuation in the price of bitcoin where as the price of gold is stale and we can observe a very little change in the price of bitcoin.

bitcoin price is indeed more than gold but for the popularity, i think many people will stay with gold because they don't know anything about bitcoin. but for me, i will stick with bitcoin, i'd like to save bitcoin than gold and its because i don't have much of money to buy gold. but to earn bitcoin, i think i can earn more bitcoin in internet.
8519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin without Altcoin ? on: January 07, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
I can see the discussion here but i would say that altcoin help Bitcoin a lot in terms of New users being introduced to bitcoin.  I also believe that altcoin are not used only for trading or so we say useful.  But instead altcoin are somehow a testing grounds for some possible update to bitcoin in terms of application with regards to masses' reaction.

If we check the forum activity we can see that the most popular board is altcoins so I understand that many people were/are introduced to cryptocurrencies through these altcoins and learn more how these work and learn the power and the potential of bitcoin.
altcoin move faster than the bitcoin if on price don't be surprised if altcoin more widely discussed because potential and the amount of altcoin, especially by traders

beside that, without altcoin, we only can trade bitcon with fiat and its hard to make a big money but if we doing trade bitcoin with altcoin, then we can make a big money because we know that for some altcoin, there is always get a big jump in the price so we can getting much of profit.
8520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the last 24 hours on: January 07, 2017, 11:53:28 AM
when the price is reach $1100, i heard that many new paper give the article about this and they make controversial news that said bitcoin is a new investment, bitcoin is only for illegal transaction, and many other news. i think there is a bad and a good things here that we can learn from the news itself and i am sure that bitcoin will make people realize about the existence of bitcoin.
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