The one thing I love about the internet is it gives me plenty of time to read peoples responses thoroughly, that kind of response is very clever but extremely flawed and tries to present an ultimatum when the fact is there is none. You claim that an unregulated economy is pseudo-science but that is only because it hasn't ever really been tried yet in history until Bitcoin of course. The unregulated markets you seem to be thinking of are actually regulated but it is done through a sort of Darwinism style system where there will obviously be methods that you disagree with but will still work in the long run. This isn't an unregulated economy, in fact one could argue that it is more harshly regulated because it is indiscriminate in who ends up getting killed off in their line of work and who doesn't.

Looking at Bitcoin as the only example of this supposedly unregulated type economy you speak of but even this isn't entirely unregulated, you can see exactly what I'm talking about, you have scammers trying to be clever and scamming people who are daft enough to give them money, you then have the scammers trying the tactic again but now people are beginning to adapt and come up with ways to get around them. I don't think there will ever be such a thing as an unregulated economy realistically, I do think though that Darwinism style economics is probably the best thing, that said, because we're different from animals there's no rule saying that people can't help the weak and the poor out of kindness which is what I believe we'll inevitably end up with because I seriously doubt there are people out there who would be that mean normally.


The south from what I know kept slaves so that definitely isn't unregulated you muppet.

https://cryptostocks.com/ is something people seem to speak well of but of course you should be wary because of what happened to GLBSE, there isn't much going on long term wise from what I see, I think we really need a decentralised stock exchange so people can do stuff like that.

Unfortunately I've been discovering as well it's an absolute pain to do anything to and from Bitcoin with the conventional currencies to avoid problems in the future with dickheads shutting down your website for no reason I'd point you towards offshore hosting, I've been specifically looking around for something like this because I am almost certainly going to piss off the crazed neo-con Americans out there.

http://www.synwebhost.com/ - This is a host I'm looking at switching to

There are others I've seen as well, most of them just have very basic rules on things like child pornography and the like which I think most people would agree with entirely, hope this helps, it will be a lot cheaper than maintaining a virtual private server! However I'm afraid I can only find cheaper alternatives rather than hosting that works with Bitcoin.

If they're already working as hard as they can though telling them to work harder isn't going to make much difference and it seems to me a lot of these companies that are failing are poorly managed in the first place, I don't think minimum wage laws do anything either way, what you need is an economy that isn't being constantly tampered with, incompetent employers who keep their wages low to offset the cost of their business while keeping their own wages high would quickly go out of business if people learned about what he was up to and someone else was willing to do better. This is because of course rather than invest it in making the business grow the employer is just taking the profit and this means of course that the business will start to fail if competitors arrive and there isn't enough cash going in the company.

There have even been studies on worker productivity and people have discovered that changing the designs of buildings or putting things like plants etc. in or letting them work more freely increases their productivity, I don't think it's a matter of minimum wage laws being good or bad but rather work conditions. I think if you're being paid peanuts to work in a horrible factory with terrible conditions while they are being paid thousands then you should be able to sue the employer, it shouldn't be about wages at all.

If programmers were all uncreative then how did Notch come up with Minecraft?

Post your specs, then people can know if it isn't just a problem with your hardware or settings.

It all depends if they are competent banking lawyers, anything else doesn't matter, I have nothing against banking by itself, I just hate central banking propped up by governments.

I can't do programming the most I've been able to do is draw a warped cyan triangle on a screen, nice to see people posting up jobs like this though, gives me hope for Bitcoin, the advertising sites that make you spam your address are a bit fishy to me.

Yep let him do it and feel the consequences of his overnight binge, unless he's completely stupid and it doesn't seem like he is to me he'll realise why humans need sleep, children are like a blank slate a lot of the time, but if you let them learn on their own they'll learn stuff faster than if you try and beat it into them without any reasoning oh yeah and myrkul's right, get him to brush his teeth really early, show him google if he doesn't believe you when you say it hurts like hell if you don't.

It's actually a pretty real possibility, obviously the country itself isn't going to cease to exist lol but perhaps something will happen to the current federal government for sure.

Got to wonder who the hell is transferring those Bitcoins and what for because they certainly don't seem to be using them to trade publicly.

Finally! Thanks a lot! Nice to see someone do this!

Bitpay aren't going to be happy with you lol

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This guy has it right, a lot of America is made up of military spending, hence why you have people that rant about the military industrial complex which is what that is.

Seriously, go find other girls and explore the outside world a bit, it sucks being attached like that and then of course if you try and be nice about it and not interfere she'll inevitably dump him and bitch to you about it and you'll immediately go ">_<" in real life because that's what's happened to me before lol, just think about why she has a boyfriend, if it turns out she's had several before chances are she wouldn't last long with you anyway. There really are times in my life where I've been sad about a girl but then after hearing about her breaking up with someone etc. I've gone "PHEW, I fucking dodged a bullet there big time!", trust me it's not worth chasing a taken girl most of the time, unless of course you really really like her in which case you're screwed.

Oh and if there are any girls watching this thread, if a guy tells you another guy is an asshole, fucking listen, it's like with girls and other girls, the same gender always know what they're talking about when it comes to each other.

lmao, like I said earlier, just looking at the other solutions people have posted I'd rather mine it >_< Now I know why people compare Bitcoin to a religion, I feel like I've been converted, but honestly, why would you use conventional money when there's something like this available?

All I'm saying is don't make this place your battleground, if you want to do that then take it to private messaging or just ignore him.

The growth that the establishment economists are talking about is phony, the reason it's going to have such a 'catastrophic' effect is because it is forcing companies to stop unproductive businesses that aren't making anything which is what a big percentage of western countries are made up of, they can't tax the private sector any more to get their money because there is barely any private sector left and they can't borrow the money because no one wants to lend any more. For years now we've essentially been leeching off countries like Germany and China that are production based economies whereas the countries that most of us live in don't make anything and don't have anything of value so the whole system is collapsing in on itself.

So really in simple terms, the fiscal cliff is the end of a long running con that many western countries have been perpetrating and many stupid pillocks have been voting for unwittingly because they didn't know any better and they seem to think that the politicians are actually capable of keeping it going judging by the fact they've re-elected Obama for the second fucking time. I think I'm going to avoid using the word fiscal cliff because I think this is actually some made up PR word to make the people think people less of the situation they're in, I actually think what they're talking about is a recession/depression and it's going to come in hard on the U.S

Edit: Here's a little link where Peter Schiff explains pretty well what's going on with the U.S economy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlWpGm9POwQ

In my opinion Fiscal Cliff = Recession/Depression PR word

Oh shut up, why is it that every internet community I take an interest has to fall apart because of annoying witch hunting, hate mongering, mob lynching pricks who insist that whenever there is a problem with one individual that acts like a cunt it is somehow the administrators fault and want to usurp the whole place to turn it into their own little idyllic paradise where they'll just end up banning anyone who does anything they don't like?

Please people, don't fall for the stupidity and annoyance of these shit stirrers and just put them on your ignore list like I'm going to, don't let them turn a forum about Bitcoin into their personal battleground.

Its a term used by hackers and I suspect he's right, what it will probably do is create a security flaw for peoples bitcoin clients that a skilled hacker could probably use to get at their Bitcoins, I suspect if the site is down someone has already found it.

I'm sure it'll be obvious to most people now but I'll point out that anyone who uses a demo account to show how profitable they are is full of shit, always make sure that if you get someone to help you manage money they have actual experience trading live markets and they have actual proof of their profit taking before you give them any money, adding to that, don't give them your account details under any circumstances either.