If you are right then I have no idea why you were compelled to make this thread . You said Ashoka killed many people , have you ever gone through your history ? You have no idea what you are saying . Who were those people who attacked school in pakistan ?
You want proof that Ashoka killed 100,000 proof then please go through Wikipedia. .. And here my aim is not to point out any religion, it's just that every religion has some good and bad people... Do you think entire muslims are terrorists or what??? why this forum has a lot of hatred towards muslims? You know here in India we all people of different religion live together happily. .. We have a lot of friends of other religions... and we treat them equal.. Okay India. Ashoka from India. I was thinking, maybe... http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ahsoka_Tanolol... I think reality is distorted on Internet forums. For example just yesterday I stopped by the road, and helped a recent immigrant (going to guess he was Muslim) get his car started.
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Dude... Even if it would happen 10 million is merely 2% of European pop... You really think we can't absorb that much? Then it means our system is doomed since the very beginning... Your selective usage of statistics is not going to help. First of all, it is not 10 million on top of 500 million. It is going to be 10 million on top of 80 million, because the immigrants are interested only in Germany. They don't want to immigrate to the shit-hole nations such as Romania and Bulgaria. Now you may be thinking that the ratio will be 1:8. No. It is not. Here are the reasons: More than 70% to 75% of the immigrants are adult males, in the 18-34 age group. That means 7 million immigrants from this age group versus a population of 8 million native male Germans from the same age group. Now we are having 15 million males in the 18-34 yr age group, versus 8 million females in the same age group. Don't you think that this gender imbalance will be having serious issues? Weird, when you have to repeatedly state the fucking obvious. Do you people happen to be gay or have a fetish for anal sex? I ask this because you people always pull stuff out of your assholes. GREAT QUESTION!!!! No, I am not gay and do not have a fetish for anal sex. Neither do care what people do in private. But since you bring the matter up- We should consider the new Islamic FATWA allowing ANAL JIHAD. http://pamelageller.com/2013/12/anal-jihad-fatwa-that-permits-sodomy-to-widen-the-anus-as-a-means-to-place-explosives.html/
London-Based Shiite Cleric Abdallah Al-Khilaf: A Wahhabi Fatwa that Permits Sodomy to Widen the Anus as a Means to place explosives in the anus for the purpose of Jihad has been issued. - See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2013/12/anal-jihad-fatwa-that-permits-sodomy-to-widen-the-anus-as-a-means-to-place-explosives.html/#sthash.zX8hVaJX.dpufNow, are you opposed to ANAL JIHAD? Are you opposed to bombs going in Islamic Assholes?
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In my opinion, all religions are religions of peace.....
Prove it. Some religions actually are religions of peace, such as the Christian Quaker sect. Others are not the same. It is a logical error to claim they are the same, is it not? And we know that different sects of Islam teach wildly different behavior. Again, they are not the same. yes , i agree with you.. not all the religions are peaceful, some of then even let people make war... this is so illogical.. Actually a pretty good answer to the question "Is Islam a religion of Peace" is that, "None of this makes sense." So it would appear. But that does NOT ALLOW the conclusion "Islam is peace."
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If you are right then I have no idea why you were compelled to make this thread . You said Ashoka killed many people , have you ever gone through your history ? You have no idea what you are saying . Who were those people who attacked school in pakistan ?
Ashoka? Which one?
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"Political Islam" is an empty shell that uses religious terminology as political slogans. What you see is very similar to the reformation Christianity under went in Europe...every man thinks they have the right to interpret the religion how they see fit and is willing to kill anyone who opposes them, be they muslim or not.....
But if the religion Islam itself proposes and requires as a goal Islamic theocracy, then you can neither shrug off "political Islam" as an empty shell, nor consider it as separate from Islam itself. Like it or not, it is what it is. I conclude that political manifestations related to Islam are Islam itself. Is any other interpretation possible? You can't just pick and choose what goes in the "Islam" box and the "Not Islam" box to reach any desired conclusions.
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Who is fighting ISIS on the ground?
Oh hell 99% of anti ISIS fighters are muslims.
This is more complicated than a love triangle. NATO fights the ISIL and Taliban. The ISIL fights the NATO, FSA, Syria and the Taliban. The Talibans fight NATO and ISIL. Russia fight ISIL and FSA. FSA fights ISIL, Iran and Syria. Syria fights ISIL and FSA. Turkey fights ISIL and Syria. Iran fights ISIL and FSA. Bunch of fools. Smart is to take over with economics, like Japan did, and like China is doing.
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People in the free world hate Islam because they know what's coming. Here's what's coming for the free world. The whole free world is built on a debt money system. Islam is not. Oh sure, Islam uses the debt money system somewhat, but it uses the real money system more, and it has a far better understanding of the real money system than people of the free world do. The debt money system is a big Ponzi scheme. It is designed to give power to the big bankers, and whomever pulls their strings. Part of the warring going on in the Middle East has to do with bankers trying to suck more nations into their Ponzi, both to keep the Ponzi from crashing, and to promote the growing of it. The Middle East peoples are not happy with the idea of joining a Ponzi. The wars are the result. All Ponzi's crash, sooner or later. The thing that makes them crash most is when they run out of supporters. The world is only so big. There are only so many people in the world. Even if all people wanted to be sucked into the Ponzi, it would still crash after time. Since they don't want to get sucked in, and since they won't allow themselves to be sucked in, the Ponzi will crash sooner. To be sure, the war to bring the world into the Ponzi will be devastating. Part of the war will itself fuel the Ponzi. But it will all end when the Ponzi crashes all the way. With present world stock market crashes coming about, and the economy of nations at the pinnacle of the start of the collapse, the beginning signs of the crashing Ponzi might be upon us right now. So, what does this have to do with people hating Islam? Islam will survive the Ponzi crash. Why will it survive? Because it has a working real money (rather than debt money) system in place that it uses every day in almost all its doings. Islamic people are working the thing that will survive the Ponzi... real money. Debt money nations and their people don't know how to live in a world of real money any longer. In other words, while the peoples of the world are struggling to survive the collapse of their money systems, Islam will jump right in with a fully operating money system to take over the world. People instinctively know that this is happening and will happen. That's why they hate Islam. Islam will take all freedom away from people everywhere. But it will be the fault of the people, because they placed their faith in a debt money Ponzi.![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I thought the free world hates Islam because it kills people all around the world, but ok. Whatever. It's nice to know that you are waking up, finally. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Please stop insulting the clever Mr. Ponzi. And all religions survive hard times. More people flock to them.
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Dude... Even if it would happen 10 million is merely 2% of European pop... You really think we can't absorb that much? Then it means our system is doomed since the very beginning... Your selective usage of statistics is not going to help. First of all, it is not 10 million on top of 500 million. It is going to be 10 million on top of 80 million, because the immigrants are interested only in Germany. They don't want to immigrate to the shit-hole nations such as Romania and Bulgaria. Now you may be thinking that the ratio will be 1:8. No. It is not. Here are the reasons: More than 70% to 75% of the immigrants are adult males, in the 18-34 age group. That means 7 million immigrants from this age group versus a population of 8 million native male Germans from the same age group. Now we are having 15 million males in the 18-34 yr age group, versus 8 million females in the same age group. Don't you think that this gender imbalance will be having serious issues? Weird, when you have to repeatedly state the fucking obvious.
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.... Russia , U.s. ; Germany , and France are the number one terrorısts....
A bit like saying the cops are the #1 in violence because they handle criminals who are violent, isn't it? No not exactly. If you are an ınsurance company in a town ; in order to make sell , you hire robbers to steal from stores , houses and after that you say "if you have ınsurance, ill pay all of your losses" and make more customers. In this case it is clearly seen that you arent a robber but in fact you are the boss of robbers.This four countries also england and ıtaly are the boss of terrorrists. You found a terrorist organization among the Muslim or Latin or african countries , and they make all the damage to those poor countries, kill them and later that you say "look what a horrible society".while they are busy with dealing with the terrorists that you have founded , you steal all they have : petroleum, gold etc.You isnt meant to point you but for the six terrorist countries of the world. I don't know of any Western nation, off the top of my head - and I could be wrong - that has captured oil fields and kept them, in the last several decades. And I don't know of any that has confiscated stocks of gold. I do know of some that have wasted a lot of their treasure trying to bring peace to lands that don't deserve it. France and USA for example... We just come and seize everything. Oh of course the "government" doesn't hold it, you imagine? Like if the government was going to take what really worth something? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No of course, that's the big companies that get the gold and the oil after the war. Look a bit at the investments of Total in Middle East... If a country is in shambles they get a Western firm to come and many their oil fields. So what? The revenues go to the local dictators, kings, whatever. Less a fee for management. If they can manage it themselves they do so. This is not "taking their oil." That's an outright lie. Usually it's the complete opposite. Like Venezuela "nationalizing" their oil and refineries. (EG stealing them).
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.... No we're talking about few dozens of people... There is nothing in Europe, terrorists attack make maybe 200 deaths a year! In whole Europe!!! Seriously more people die from cows than from terrorist attacks!!! ....
Sadly, you are grossly mistaken. www.thereligionofpeace.comSadly, again, your source doesn't apply to my comment. I'm talking about terrorist attacks in Europe, you're giving me the attacks in the world. The site while being interesting doesn't allow such filter. But when you go quickly around the list of attacks in a year, you also see that the vast majority of terrorists attacks are done in Muslim and midle East countries. You seem to repeated post false statements. I have no doubt this is true of you believing what the puppetmasters tell you to believe. Mindlessly repeating their assurances that you are very safe in france. Here is 2015 in your country. 2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe). 2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire). 2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's. 2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge). 2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra). 2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan). 2015.10.24 France Marseille 0 2 A man yelling 'Allah Akbar' attacks a rabbi in a synagogue and stabs another Jew trying to help. 2015.08.21 France Paris 0 3 A Muslim trained by ISIS opens fire with a Kalashnikov on a train before being subdued by unarmed American passengers. 2015.06.26 France Lyon 1 2 A 'normal Muslim' attacks a factory, beheads one worker and raises the Islamist flag after hoisting the severed head on a fence. 2015.04.19 France Villejuif 1 0 A 24-year-old woman is shot to death by an Islamic extremist who planned a shooting rampage. 2015.02.03 France Nice 0 3 Three French soldiers standing guard at a Jewish center are stabbed by a radical Muslim. 2015.01.09 France Paris 4 5 Four hostages are taken and killed by an Islamic gunman at a Jewish grocery. 2015.01.08 France Montrouge 1 1 A policewoman investigating a traffic accident is ambushed and killed by a Muslim extremist. 2015.01.07 France Paris 12 10 A dozen people are slaughtered by gunmen 'avenging' the prophet at a newspaper office which printed satirical cartoons critical of Islam. 2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by 'radicalized' Muslims. And so what? I just said there was not more than 200 deaths every year, where is my false statement? It is not false, but it is misleading. You are equating deaths due to terrorism with accidents. Terrorism is not an accident. This is where your logic fails. I showed him that his number of 200 per year was wrong. FRANCE ALONE got around 200.
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.... No we're talking about few dozens of people... There is nothing in Europe, terrorists attack make maybe 200 deaths a year! In whole Europe!!! Seriously more people die from cows than from terrorist attacks!!! ....
Sadly, you are grossly mistaken. www.thereligionofpeace.comSadly, again, your source doesn't apply to my comment. I'm talking about terrorist attacks in Europe, you're giving me the attacks in the world. The site while being interesting doesn't allow such filter. But when you go quickly around the list of attacks in a year, you also see that the vast majority of terrorists attacks are done in Muslim and midle East countries. You seem to repeated post false statements. I have no doubt this is true of you believing what the puppetmasters tell you to believe. Mindlessly repeating their assurances that you are very safe in france. Here is 2015 in your country. 2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe). 2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire). 2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's. 2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge). 2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra). 2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan). 2015.10.24 France Marseille 0 2 A man yelling 'Allah Akbar' attacks a rabbi in a synagogue and stabs another Jew trying to help. 2015.08.21 France Paris 0 3 A Muslim trained by ISIS opens fire with a Kalashnikov on a train before being subdued by unarmed American passengers. 2015.06.26 France Lyon 1 2 A 'normal Muslim' attacks a factory, beheads one worker and raises the Islamist flag after hoisting the severed head on a fence. 2015.04.19 France Villejuif 1 0 A 24-year-old woman is shot to death by an Islamic extremist who planned a shooting rampage. 2015.02.03 France Nice 0 3 Three French soldiers standing guard at a Jewish center are stabbed by a radical Muslim. 2015.01.09 France Paris 4 5 Four hostages are taken and killed by an Islamic gunman at a Jewish grocery. 2015.01.08 France Montrouge 1 1 A policewoman investigating a traffic accident is ambushed and killed by a Muslim extremist. 2015.01.07 France Paris 12 10 A dozen people are slaughtered by gunmen 'avenging' the prophet at a newspaper office which printed satirical cartoons critical of Islam. 2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by 'radicalized' Muslims. And so what? I just said there was not more than 200 deaths every year, where is my false statement? You tell me where your false statement is. If you can't see it, buddy, you need to step back, take a deep breathe, and just turn your computer off.
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the best way let the Muslims fight their own fights as that part of the world is not worth let alone the thousands of our wounded and dead.
That is what Russia is doing in the Middle East. They are just providing aerial support to the regime in Syria, while the Kurds and the regime forces are fighting the ISIS / Al Nusra. The same is the case with Yemen as well. The Shiites and the Sunnis are fighting against each other, with Iran supporting the former and the Saudis supporting the latter. Western powers need to stay out of Middle East. Miltarily? How about cutting off the massive foreign aid dollars while we're at it? Ah! And if we let them alone, where will we find our natural ressources? Don't forget that we're in those regions because we need everything they have that's all... Bah. We BUY STUFF, not take it.
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.... What are you trying to prove? I already said that there was less than 200 deaths every year because of terrorist attacks so that was not the big deal the media and the politics want to make us believe. You're just proving my point.
You said 200 / year in the EU. I pointed out you had about that many just in your Safe Country Where Criminals Obey The Laws. Please thousand injuried. Hell of a success you got there. Viva Charlie Hebro.
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Terrorists are not terrorists and muslims are not muslims.
If A is not B and B is not A, yet A is not A and B is not B, then we have... A NE B A NE A B NE B then A could be (C, D, E...) and B could be (C, D, E...) as long as the condition A NE B held. This presents a rich universe of possibilities.
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.... Russia , U.s. ; Germany , and France are the number one terrorısts....
A bit like saying the cops are the #1 in violence because they handle criminals who are violent, isn't it? No not exactly. If you are an ınsurance company in a town ; in order to make sell , you hire robbers to steal from stores , houses and after that you say "if you have ınsurance, ill pay all of your losses" and make more customers. In this case it is clearly seen that you arent a robber but in fact you are the boss of robbers.This four countries also england and ıtaly are the boss of terrorrists. You found a terrorist organization among the Muslim or Latin or african countries , and they make all the damage to those poor countries, kill them and later that you say "look what a horrible society".while they are busy with dealing with the terrorists that you have founded , you steal all they have : petroleum, gold etc.You isnt meant to point you but for the six terrorist countries of the world. I don't know of any Western nation, off the top of my head - and I could be wrong - that has captured oil fields and kept them, in the last several decades. And I don't know of any that has confiscated stocks of gold. I do know of some that have wasted a lot of their treasure trying to bring peace to lands that don't deserve it.
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.... Russia , U.s. ; Germany , and France are the number one terrorısts.... [/quote] A bit like saying the cops are the #1 in violence because they handle criminals who are violent, isn't it?
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Sorry OP, all you're doing is blatantly trying to use history to deflect blame from the group committing current atrocities against people, as most religious people and their apologists tend to do.
Also we'd love to believe you about living peacefully with others, but you keep on shooting at us and trying to blow us up.
I am not shooting at any other religion. . I am just defending my religion, as there is a lot of hatred about it in the forum... As I already said, I respect your religion, you respect mine... Nobody said you were shooting. Maybe it's like a group which has an infectious disease. In a minority of it's members. Defending it without acknowledging the problem is seen as denial. By contrast "I am a Muslim and I will fight ISIS" is a hero.
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This may be true, however in this scenario Rubio's lead among the other non-trump candidates would be much greater, and Trump's lead over Rubio would be much less. This might allow Rubio to "steal" supporters from Cruz and Kasich because supporting Rubio would potentially have a greater impact then supporting either of the other two. I don't know. But I definitely don't think that Rubio will be able to steal supporters from Ted Cruz. The people who vote for Ted Cruz are vehemently against the policies of Marco Rubio. Ted Cruz is a part of the anti-establishment section of the GOP, along with Donald Trump and Ben Carson. On the other hand, Rubio is the blue eyed boy of the establishment. Trump and Carson might be able to steal support from Cruz. But definitely not Rubio. Rubio and Bush are the establishment players. One takes the other's votes. But if both drop out, their votes go to Trump, because Cruz is viewed widely as a Tea Party radical. Based on the endgame player, the Repubs either have a high or a low general election turn out. Low if the candidate then is Bush or Rubio....
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Islam or any other beliefs are not way to reach peace at all. They will always reach one point so save its believers but kill its non believers. It is truth for every religion. Sorry.
for every religion? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I think some are peaceful and open minded and others are extreme and closed minded.
The problem is that the "peaceful and open minded" types, who claim that they constitute the majority of the Muslims, don't condemn the actions by their "extremist and close-minded" coreligionists. In the end, it is the silence by the majority which makes it impossible to prevent the terrorist activities by the fringe elements. When they don't condemn the violence, do they still have the right to claim "Islam is peace?" If and when they claim Islam is Peace regardless, should they just be laughed at? Or what??? Muslims don't criticize obvious problems with their religion because any criticism is punishable by death. This religion will have a hard time reforming itself. Try to draw a picture of Mohammad raping a 9 yr old child. What I'm not getting is why Western countries succumb to their demands for irrational behavior by openly not criticizing their religion. Obama cannot even admit it is a problem. How can you reform this religion if you don't even admit there is a problem? Here's my problem with this. Any culture, nation, city, state, religion has it's "Enforcers." They are a low percentage of the total in the group. They may be not very nice people, or they may be nice people in a nasty job. Does not matter. The enforcers actually dictate the rules of the group, don't they? (think cops, soldiers, Allah Ackbarists) The actual rules are the rules that are enforced. By use of negative incentives such as prison, courts, violence, death, maiming.
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Bush wonīt drop out, heīs got plenty of money and it canīt be ruled out that heīll eventually be scammed through at the convention. The same interests that want Hillary want Bush. They want tool vs. tool = 100% probability of a win for them.
There is no way to scam a candidate through the Republican convention. There certainly are ways to do it with the Democrat system.
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