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921  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Get your ASIC now! on: November 01, 2013, 12:22:46 PM
Cool site. However why did you choose USD as the default currency? Why not bitcoin? I know you guys accept bitcoin but it should be the currency you see on the main page. Just my opinion. Still a cool site and I think I'll be trying it out soon  Grin

One of the ideas was to offer buyers stable and unchangeable price. Bitcoin value is permanently changes. It is good both for sellers and buyers - buyers won't overpay but sellers won't loose money if bitcoin value falls. At present time sellers agreed with us. If for some of the seller will be in principle to sell in bitcoins - we will post listing in bitcoins.

@desto from your home page

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KnC Jupiter 525Gh/s - USED
$ 6800
Location: United Kingdom
Shipping: Worldwide
 
 
This unit was used for couple of months, in perfect condition and great working order. Comes with power supply. Shipping and escrow costs included.

the first knc miner was shipped on October the third, just saying.


922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: November 01, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
I am mining on BitMinter in that race, but I am also giving some of my mining time to a small pool (the way BitMinter used to be).
This small pool is https://give-me-coins.com/
Its merged-mined BTC sub-pool is at 6THs right now, 0% fees, and they still have one bounty left for the next BTC block finder of 0% fees for life + 1BTC reward. The other sub-pools they operate are LTC and FTC, so if you still GPU-mine those, you can have everything in one dashboard.

I will give them a try, it's the second time someone use them as an example of well crafted small minig pool.
923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 31, 2013, 01:11:47 PM

broken link
924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 30, 2013, 07:17:32 PM

If someone was REALLY malicious, they could possibly use those low-level i2c commands to actually do physical damage to the miner - like setting the PLLs to ridiculously high values, or whatever...  Maybe write a script that just blasts random values over I2C, and see if you can make something smoke Shocked

I can't imagine why anyone would want to do something like that - but it's still something to consider if you are giving root access to random people...


yeah this could be done I suppose and it's nasty.

the best thing should do like -redacted- change web interface in such a way they could not gan control of the miner or just create a normal user and grant him  the right to do the minimum amount of things to let him mining (using sudo maybe)
925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 30, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
I have a hypothetical question. If a 3rd party wants to rent a few days of hashtime on my Jupiter and I give him access including my password, if he changes the password without telling me is there any way to regain access without the new password or is the Juptier permanently hi-jacked?



hard reset should reset the passwords I believe.

hard reset just copy a bunch of pristine files placed in /config in various places, among them /config/shadow.factory
will be copied over /etc/shadow. that means that after an hard reset the pwd for root will be re-set to admin.

what if during the period of time u rent your miner that guy just change /config/shadow.factory? Tongue

anyway as long as u have physical access to the miner u could reflash your miner  using RecoveryFile (https://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/file/SD_image_0.96.1.zip) and everything will be under your control again.
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 30, 2013, 11:20:08 AM
as a reminder to all with multiple miners....    just update ONE and see how it goes on next firmwares

amen
927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
Had a small problem with 0.98, hashrate skyrocketed very hard on all the miners (some had a 35% increase in pool hashrate!) but the electricity it draws was too much for one of the UPS, which switched itself off.

Funny thing is that precisely into that UPS I had also plugged in the switch to which all my units are connected, so it brought  down all the farm.

The obvious explanation is that the UPS couldn't handle the power drew by the miner with 0.98 + the 16 ports switch, but that's ridiculous because the switch shouldn't draw more than 10w and the UPS is 1500va, so it is supposed to handle with no problem 900w of continuous power.

I'm now testing a couple of units with 0.98 (the ones in which the increase was spectacular), and I rolled back to 0.97 on the rest. Will report later.

how many and which type of miners?
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 03:36:40 PM
Been doing some testing and still torn between 0.97 and 0.98.. need some advice.

All else aside.. I have a higher hashrate in 0.98, but WU is lower by about 250 compared to 0.97. I always believed the two to be directly correlated, but that doesn't appear to be the case here.

Which is more important in the long-term for overall earnings, hashrate or WU?

Hashrate at the pool.
929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
anyone has a meter for his Jupiter, only ?
seems like higher electricity consumption, but I can't tell exactly as I have several other devices connected to my one

My Saturn went to 315 W from 295 W with 0.98fw

and your hashrate increased?
930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:45:50 PM
.97 Firmware
ASIC slot #1 39.5 ℃
ASIC slot #2 27.0 ℃
ASIC slot #3 43.0 ℃
ASIC slot #4 37.0 ℃

.98 firmware
ASIC slot #1   41.0 ℃
ASIC slot #2   28.0 ℃
ASIC slot #3   45.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4   38.5 ℃

I'll agree with the comments above, this firmware does run hotter than .97.  With the increased hashrate I suppose that is to be expected.  

it's harmless imho, this is my jup with 0.95:

 KNC 0: 51.0C | 135.6/132.1/126.1Gh/s | A:11149 R:160+0(.46%) HW:160159/4.8%
 KNC 1: 50.5C | 134.8/130.0/126.4Gh/s | A:11284 R:126+0(.46%) HW: 82402/2.5%
 KNC 2: 47.5C | 135.3/132.0/128.0Gh/s | A:11467 R:109+0(.24%) HW: 91937/2.8%
 KNC 3: 40.0C | 142.7/139.5/137.0Gh/s | A:12301 R:132+0(.28%) HW: 33157/.96


let say the I would have used "warmer" rather than "hotter" Tongue

931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:38:16 PM
Careful with this one, guys.. monitor your temps. My machines are running hot. Each chip about 2-4 degrees higher on 0.9.8.

Rolling back to 0.97 for now.

absolute values? before and after?
932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:37:38 PM
is bertmod & enablecores the same thing?



not at all
933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
any reports on .98 firmwares? Grin

So far, my hashrate in CG miner has gone from 540 gh/s to 550

 cgminer version 3.6.6 - Started: [2013-10-29 14:29:59]
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 (5s):627.6G (avg):566.4Gh/s | A:27648  R:512  HW:594  WU:7846.7/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 1  LW: 29933  GF: 0  RF: 0

Take this all with a grain of salt, it has been hashing for about 20 seconds - havent applied bertmod quite yet.

what was your hash rate with your prev fw?
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 29, 2013, 02:18:31 PM
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-60
now is official
935  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter Miner First Impressions on: October 28, 2013, 09:25:08 PM
(so before luke implement the mechanisms to automatically disable and re-enable problematic cores),



I haven't looked at that implementation yet


here the link to the commit that introduce automatic en/dis core algo:

https://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer/commit/8b690959dd4b107010217289fa69da82889e63cf

quoting comments:


 + If a core gets 10 HW errors in a row without doing any proper work
 + it is disabled for 10 seconds.
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 + When a core gets 10 HW errors the next time it checks when it was enabled
 + the last time and compare that to when it started to get errors.
 + If those times are close (50%) the disabled time is doubled,
 + if not it is just disabled for 10s again.


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I have done similar test runs like you, and it is nice to just leave off the really bad ones and just keep on the rest, but it is also a wonder if even a 70% HW error core isn't worth just leaving on since it still provides 30% valid work

Does one terrible core effect another? Do HW errors tax the control unit?

hno on kncminer irc said that there colud be some kind of tourbolence, a sort of bad interaction between good cores and bad one if you keep the latter enabled. 

anyway this morning (UTC) I've discovered that my miners were running cgminer since sunday morning due to a temporary glitch in the power line at the colo that makes the miners restart. As soon as I realized that I've checked the cores status and guess what... all cores were enable again. this is strange.

Just after that I've stopped cgminer and restart bfgminer and after 12hs I get almost the same performance.   
 
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If KNC would sell extra control units I would play around with a bad module but I am done taking downtime setting up different tests.  At some point I will RMA a few problem modules.

I do agree. It would be fantastic, imho

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If you have good hardware you can run .96 at very nice Gh

I will give it a try, but I don't know if I really have good HW. I had a dead die on a asic slots for each machine. I was able to bring it back using Enablecore.bin on 0.95. This improved my hashrate at the pools from 480 to almost 520Gh/s at the pool.

I've tried 0.97 on one of them but the higher hastrate was balanced by a way higher HW error rate (10-15%)   

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I put 4 of my best modules in one miner and get 545-565 on avg at btcguild

wow it would be good to gain another 25Gh/s per jup.

This is the list of the thing that I've to try next:

- (SW) ckolivas cgminer version
- (SW) bfgminer automatic en/dis mechanism
- (SW) test 0.96 to really see if I could gain another 20GH/s
- (HW) mod the heatsink fans as you did (lowering them)
- (HW) add two small fans in the front to improve the intake at BBB/VRM level
- (HW) improve the VRMs airflow take into account what "The Avenger" share here:
            https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg3375668#msg3375668
            maybe using something like trepex did here:
           



 



936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 28, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-59
937  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC Repairs, They've treated us well, let's do the same for them. on: October 28, 2013, 09:48:08 AM
tldr: Pay $200/a generic deposit on a credit card. Just have to auth it, dont even need to take it.

They send you new chip. You send back. They cancel auth.

If you don't send chip in, they take the payment.

I'm in favor of whatever mechanism that let me eventually ask for RMA without loosing any GH/s due to HW roundtrip.
938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 28, 2013, 09:40:40 AM
So final
The Jupiter work better when is harm or when is it cold?HuhHuh??

Someone suggested aiming a hair drier at it, done CAREFULLY  that would give you a good indication.

They certainly run waaay better at 55-65, than at 35-45.

just to another datapoint the following are bfgminer stats for my jup

 KNC 0: 50.5C | 135.0/131.7/123.1Gh/s | A:230 R:112+0(2.4%) HW:2216/5.4%
 KNC 1: 50.5C | 133.3/130.3/126.5Gh/s | A:214 R: 80+0(1.8%) HW:1041/2.6%
 KNC 2: 47.0C | 134.4/131.9/126.0Gh/s | A:226 R: 85+0(1.7%) HW:1285/3.2%
 KNC 3: 39.0C | 142.5/139.4/134.4Gh/s | A:218 R:101+0(2.2%) HW: 481/1.1%

the coolest chip run faster and with less HW errors.

it could be due to a lot if reasons: the right controller plug, the better production quality, the position on the miner etc. etc.

if I had physical access to the machine I would try to raise the temp of the 4th chip just to verify if I would have even better perf, but I think I'll have to wait till wednesday afternoon.


edit: using fw 0.95




939  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnC Repairs, They've treated us well, let's do the same for them. on: October 28, 2013, 09:20:25 AM
So I am a first batch KnC customer who just got my Mercury at the end of last week.  After some initial difficulties upgrading to the latest firmware etc. I got some help from Henrik from ORSoC in IRC, he ssh'd into my machine changed a bunch of settings and got it hashing at ~100gh/s.  Reason being that 1/4 of my chip is dead due to a hardware issue.  Glancing over the KnC forums I can see that I am far from alone having a defective chip and want to know how to go about getting it replaced.  Henrik from ORSoC mentioned that i will need to return my chip for replacement.

Obviously I have no interest in sending the chip back to Sweden before they can send me back another one, as even the 100 gh/s my miner can do is much better than the 0 I will get as soon as i send it out.  I wanted to post here to see if there is anyway we can try to get KnC Miner to do some sort of advanced RMA program.  They've no doubt proven themselves for their hardware, and ability to keep promises (at least significantly better than every company in the field with the exception of ASICMINER) and hardware issues aside I have had a fantastic customer experience with KnC.  I'd like to see if we can propose some sort of advanced RMA program, where a neutral forum member will hold escrowed BTC funds between KnC's customers and KnC, so that KnC can safely send out replacement chips to customers with defective units, without fear that the customer will run off with both chips. 

This is something I think would be greatly beneficial to all customers who have been affected by hardware defects, and still not place any undue costs on KnC for the advanced replacement of chips.  let me know if there is any support for this sort of program around here, I'm sure will enough support something like this could happen.


+1
940  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Jupiter Miner First Impressions on: October 28, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
I've just created a kncminer branch on my github and have imported their most current code and built my first binary for this. It is not a full firmware and the only thing users may note is the hashrate won't lie with this one, as it won't count hardware errors as hashrate. Also my hardware error count is significantly lower with this on the Saturn dev machine I was sent.

Here's a direct link to the binary:
http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/kncminer/cgminer

You'll have to ssh into the kncminer and copy and use that file directly. Hopefully the libraries all match between my dev environment and the default kncminer operating system which means the binary should just work if you run it like on any other OS.


the honestly is nice but might scare people

can we have control on disabling/enabling cores?   bfgminer has it but seems to only makes changes on a restart (tallys and marks them, but i saw HW errors still grow on cores that were marked off during current run)

Even if we can just change the '10 HW errors in a row' to whatever we want and also if/when to try to enable cores.  I saw the code in the driver they posted

DPoS

at the moment I'm running bfgminer compiled form github repo @  0a2c45816a813bc921f69c95f6c849f643d53277 (so before luke implement the mechanisms to automatically disable and re-enable problematic cores), and this is what I do every time I need to restart  the miner sw:

- /etc/init.d/cgminer.sh start
   
  the script loop through all your cores and among other things it enables all of them

- let knc cgminer version to run for a at least 20 mins.

  that way all the faulty/too hw error prone cores will be disabled.

- stop cgminer and start bgfminer.

 
using this steps I'm able to get a lower HW % and more stable hashrate and maybe a few GH/s more i terms of performance.

As soon as I will be able to regain remote access to the miners I'll test also ckolivas cgminer version.


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