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941  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New method to pull MtGox trade data on: May 29, 2013, 08:29:25 PM

DateThe date of the trade in ISO format.str


Great  Grin because my charting app does not accept Unixtime.

Okay, we have Date like ''2013-05-28''. Isn't Time like ''hhmmss'' missing?
942  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: FIX market data feed for all exchanges - early developer access on: May 28, 2013, 04:04:58 PM
Data are semi-realtime for now - we send aggregate messages every 15 seconds.

When you launch your service, will the data feed be event-based (tick), and will millisecond timestamp be supported?

We will charge monthly subscription fee after the release.

What will be the monthly price for:
- realtime only
- history + real-time?

Thanks
943  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 09:16:16 AM

Zarathustra + Loozik - if you want to pursue your thesis that most people are subhumans because they rejoice in being citizens, then the Politics and Society board awaits you.

What have you smoked today?
944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 08:12:04 AM
Both you guys are at war with the English language.

And you are dodging questions.

If you ever think you can prove you are a citizen, BTC 100 + USD 25,000 will be waiting for you.
945  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 08:08:20 AM
Hmm, so when presented with the definition of a citizen, you are not happy its "factual."

You presented a non-definition, according to which cockroaches inhibiting in a city are citizens.

How stupid did you say you are?

Come on, how stupid are you?
946  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 07:14:45 AM
If you think someone will pay you for saying you are a citizen, go for it.  My bet is the guy will refuse to pay.

You simply don't get it. I am not paying you (or anyone else) for saying you are a citizen. I am paying for proving you are a citizen.

Let me draw a parallel: if you claimed you were Napoleon or an alien from another planet or a lamp, I still wouldn't pay you BTC 100 for just saying you are a Napoleon or an alien or a lamp. I would pay you for proving you are one.
947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 07:09:42 AM
   A legally recognized subject or national of a state or commonwealth, either native or naturalized.

It's an opinion. It doesn't tell me what a citizen factually is. You can't prove anything with an opinion. You prove something with facts and evidences that back these facts.

   An inhabitant of a particular town or city.

Do cockroaches and dogs live in cities? If yes, than cockroaches and dogs are also citizens, right?

Are those (humans, dogs and cockroaches) that don't live in a particular city non-citizens then?

Why do you blindly rely on google?
948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 06:58:00 AM
Not all humans are citizens but all citizens are human.  

Prove this claim true with either rational or empirical evidence and I will pay you BTC 100.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3Ahuman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

hu·man  
/ˈ(h)yo͞omən/
Adjective
Of, relating to, or characteristic of people or human beings.
Noun
A human being, esp. a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien.
Synonyms
adjective.     humane
noun.     man - person - human being - individual - soul - mortal

I think you will find that anyone who is a citizen meets that criterion.

Keep the money - I feel sad for you that you pretend not to know how to use Google because you don't like the search results from "define: human"

I don't want you to prove you are a human. I want you to prove you are a citizen. For proving you are a citizen, you will get:
- BTC 100 from me, and
- USD 25,000 (on-going contest) from this guy http://marcstevens.net/ you can even call him during the radio show.

Just show the evidence you are a citizen or an evidence of a state, and this money is yours.
949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 06:49:18 AM
Not all humans are citizens but all citizens are human.  

Prove this claim true with either rational or empirical evidence and I will pay you BTC 100.
950  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 06:45:15 AM
Try google. 

Try proving.
951  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 06:37:32 AM
we are not humans, as long as we accept gods and rulers

We are humans and have always been humans. We are beautiful creatures Smiley

The problem is some of us were brainwashed (since they were kids for a long period up till now) to believe some of the humans somehow are superior (and have moral right to extract money from others) because of the objects called:

- gods (although no-one ever empirically evidenced an existence of a single god - yes, there are pictures of gods, but they rather prove creativeness of painters) or

- states (although no-one ever empirically evidenced an existence of a single state - yes, there are lines on maps drawn by people called politicians, but these lines were never proved to be a reality when looking at satellite pictures)

Surprised to read here, that there are 'Hero Members' who ...

I am even more surprised that a guy whom I labeled a ''pussy'' and the other guy labeled a ''troll'' has no courage to earn BTC 100 from me for providing an evidence he is a citizen and the so called US government regulations apply to him.
952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army? on: May 27, 2013, 05:43:49 AM

we need an army.

Out of curiosity, who is ''we''?


apparently not you, filthy infidel.

Now I am beginning to understand what this army is for. It's for fighting infidels. Not just any infidels, those filthy ones!  Grin
953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 05:40:35 AM
Factually, and historically provably, a State is a group of people who claim and attempt to enforce a monopoly of violence over a given territory.

Do I correctly read your statement that ''a state'' factually is a few / many humans? More than one and less than all 7 billion? - it doesn't matter at the moment (for this exercise) what these humans do.
954  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army? on: May 27, 2013, 02:06:05 AM
Should Bitcoin form a freedom fighters army?

What for?

we need an army.

Out of curiosity, who is ''we''?
955  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 01:44:10 AM
Don't get me wrong, I ignored that deluded halfass lazy troll, but in all fairness, resorting to discouragement of pussydom doesnt nearly do your argument justice.

True. I called him a pussy. This is my opinion of him that he is a pussy (I can put forward convincing arguments). Although factually he is a human. He can use this thread to defend himself.

Here's a good definition for citizen... the proud consumer of a police state.

1. It is not a good definition of a citizen. It does not tell me what a citizen factually is (is it a cat, is it a dog, is it a pudding or is it a piece of paper, is it a human, is it a bicycle, is it a brick?).

2. Let me give you an example what I mean by ''factually'':
- if I want to know what your ID document factually is, I want to know it is a piece of plastic or a piece of paper; I do not want to know your or somebody's else opinion that it is / might be a proof of your ID or your age or a document allowing you to raise a loan - these are opinions / these are subjective.
- if I want to know what a constitution factually is, I want to know it is a piece of paper with ink on it; I do not want to know your or somebody's else opinion that it is / might be a supreme law of the land or a document giving you certain rights or bullshit or legal gibberish - these are opinions / these are subjective.

3. Now tell me, if you can, what a ''state'' factually is - I want to understand your definition of a citizen.
956  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 12:32:34 AM
I think we've gone significantly off topic.

So we have. I just simply can't resist when a fellow human being calls himself a citizen / slave and seems to be proud of it.
957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 27, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
Yes, I do.

+ 1

In ancient Rome unfortunate humans labeled ''slaves'' were allowed to retain 10% of their income. The so called masters received 90%.

In modern times unfortunate humans labeled ''citizens'' are allowed to retain (in majority of places on Earth) 10% - 30%. The so called governments / states and other legal fictions receive 70% - 90%.

In ancient Rome the so called masters provided ''services'' to their happy slaves like, ''free'' healthcare, ''free'' water from aqueducts and most importantly they provided ''free'' education where the so called slaves were taught how good, noble and beneficial the slavery was.

In modern times the so called governments provide ''services'' to their happy slaves, pardon: their citizens, like ''free'' healthcare, ''free'' roads and most importantly they provide ''free'' education where the so called citizens are taught how good, noble and beneficial the citizenship is.

The factual difference between ancient Rome and many places now is:
- in ancient Rome the so called slaves could not choose their masters;
- at present the so called citizens can vote every few years who their masters will be.

Note, some humans in ancient Rome were very proud to be labeled ''slaves, just like now many humans are proud to be called ''citizens''.

The word ''citizen'' is a substitute for the old-fashioned ''slave''.
958  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 26, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
Of course a human != citizen.

Good. I assume this exclamation (!) is for a negation.

If you are right that a human is not the same as citizen, than a human cannot be a citizen.  Just like a dog is not the same as a washing machine, therefore a dog cannot be a washing machine.

You just proved yourself not to be a citizen. Why on Earth do you keep calling yourself a citizen?

959  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 26, 2013, 10:39:49 PM
I am a human and I am an Irish citizen.

Then tell me what a citizen is for christ's sake. It shouldn't be so difficult if yoy think you are one, should it?

If you think the 2 can't be combined, you are a fool.  

If you can prove with facts and evidence that a human = citizen, then you will convince me. So far you only claim to be both at the same time, but this claim has not been substantiated with anything that can be rationally or empirically verified.

Meanwhile, what's with people trying to use Latin to make stupid statements sound clever?  

Why do you think people care about your loaded questions?
960  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? on: May 26, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
You say that a person can't be both human and a citizen.

If a ''citizen'' does not equate a ''human'' than it is impossible for any object in this universe to be both a human and a citizen.
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If a ''citizen'' equates a ''human'' than we all are both citizens and humans.

But be careful, humans have lived on this planet for at least 200 thousand years. You would need to prove that those humans were also citizens to be able to equate a ''human'' to a ''citizen''. I wish you luck in proving humans who lived on this planet 20 thousand years ago were citizens.


Everyone who is both human and a citizen proves you are an idiot.  

So far you proved yourself to be an idiot (that non-sequitur of yours).

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