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961  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: cryptoxtokens SCAM! on: July 20, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
This kind of website is scamming the players by making them think they have won big sums and asking them to deposit small amounts.
Just think about it, if you win whatever amount but the site suddenly asks you for a small deposit in order to withdraw, why don't they deduct that small amount from the total and send people the rest of the funds?

Common sense should prevent people from falling for it, but the amounts these sites ask for are so low that people think its okay and take the risk. Imagine how much these sites make when thousands of people deposit $5 or $10.

I reported the domain for operating a scam website. I hope others will do so too.
962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Prediction on: July 19, 2019, 10:36:52 PM
I feel disappointed yesterday after see and read through all the prediction and short my position and after 15 minutes I see a great volatile in the pricing that hit my stop loss and I have to lose some Satoshi. I think we should not depend on prediction but not that predictions are bad.
With how volatile the current market is and in some moments low in liquidity, significant price movements should be expected. I'm not sure how tight your stop was, but always allow room for a wick so that it doesn't trigger your position.

The lower the leverage counts are that you use, the less likely it is for wicks to harm you. Anything over 10x leverage is similar to gambling at this stage. Don't underestimate the volatility and willingness of market markets to trigger stops.
963  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make an effective crypto portfolio? on: July 19, 2019, 10:17:17 PM
What?!
You have Ethereum and Litecoin but yet didnt come up into buying bitcoin first?
That should be the basics of all basics if you are entering the crypto field.
BTC first and I am sure you will be delighted later.
That's pretty much what most noobies do, so I'm not surprised at all. They buy in hoping that one of these coins will replace Bitcoin because they are faster and cheaper to use.

Bitcoin is the perfect hedge against how unstable altcoins are for people caring about their BTC ratios. Sure, there are times where altcoins do shine, but it's impossible to know beforehand when the right time is to buy yourself into an altcoin.

I have seen and heard so much nonsense about a looming altcoin season in the last couple of months, that I feel sorry for how stupid people really can be. Altcoin season will kick in when nobody expects it to kick in, that's how it works.
964  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: AVOID trading at all costs, unless.... on: July 19, 2019, 09:25:58 PM
Best advice you could give a newbie who wants to start trade is that maybe they first learn the basics of trading, then move into real trading with small amounts of capital that they can avoid to lose and then after sometime they can perfect their trading practices and strategies.
You don't even have to use real money to trade. You can choose to paper trade or use one of the plenty available apps allowing you to trade with non existing money. It's something I have done at the very beginning too.

Psychologically there surely is a difference between trading with non existing money and real money, but the basics matter here. You will figure out what strategies pay off and what strategies are shit.

I am however of believe that there is no such a thing as perfection in trading. Perfection means that you will always profit, and this is something even the best wall street traders aren't capable of doing. Not realistic at all.
965  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the global currency cannot be 100% internet based and if we will have one on: July 19, 2019, 05:47:36 PM
I don't understand why people think that humanity will still choose paper money over digital when most of our lives became digital to begin with. Of course we will probably never be 100% digital because I believe we will always need some paper money or something close to it.
I'm pretty sure most people in modern economies are in favor of digital money instead of paper and metal money (at least, in my country they are). The thing however is that it's hard to part with physical money entirely because people are so used to it.

Another thing is that physical money offers people anonymity, where using digital money in form of PayPal or debit/credit cards are traceable and you can be monitored by government agencies and insurance companies.

I remember a case where someone was denied healthcare insurance because that person seemed to have a very unhealthy life style based on the things he eats and drinks. I think that's a very important reason to keep using physical money.
966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin so valuable just because it was first? on: July 19, 2019, 02:22:53 PM
I agree that in the market there are many exceptionally amazing coins , but Bitcoins have stability , trust , security which is unmarked so is Bitcoin's popularity.
Many exceptionally amazing coins? I'm a bit more on the conservative/realistic side then-- I only consider Ethereum to be a worthwhile crypto. All other coins are blatant copies of Bitcoin and Ethereum.

Look at TRON and EOS for example, both networks are being flooded with fake transactions to make them seem vibrant and active, while in reality only a small number of people are using them. It really is embarrassing.

I like the growing DEFI app economy on Ethereum and strongly believe that this is something we should pay attention to. It's good to see that ICOs are no longer the main price driver of Ethereum.
967  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Imagine that you're new to crypto now on: July 19, 2019, 11:29:18 AM
Maybe watch youtube videos as that could give more highlights on the current market situation, then maybe read for books if I want to go deeper to improve my knowledge, for me, it's easy to find good tools to learn if a person is really interested to learn.
I don't consider YouTube videos to be a good source of content for newbies, especially with how most of them go with the flow of the market and adjust their stance even on an hourly basis when they have to. Too biased and greedy for clicks.

The market is obviously the most important factor for people to join, so from there it makes sense to get comfortable with markets in general. I like the suggestion for people to read books because that definitely helps.

If you have a basic level of market understanding, it's much easier for you to make a decision on when to buy and when to sell. Currently most people just buy in at any price level not knowing that it's likely the top that they bought.
968  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-18] Blockstream Announces New Lightning Network Upgrade on: July 18, 2019, 11:34:17 PM
The momentum around LN peaked before the price pumped to $5000 but it's good to see that the development keeps going despite the interest shift now the market has made people go back to fomo mode.

The liquidity in BTC terms has reduced around 10% but the price increase made sure there is still like $9.5-$10 million available in liquidity, which is good-- a higher price means people need less satoshis to transact with.

The article mentions that the upgrade with make transactions faster and cheaper, which is quite interesting because they are near instant and free already. Generally, the fee I have to pay is either zero or 1-2 satoshis. Cheesy
969  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 18, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
Orders from the buying side is still weak though, and I don't think the weak hands are already shaken--not yet.
The increase of 15% today was followed up by fairly strong volumes. It's impossible to expect more given how uncertain the market still is. People aren't going in full but keep some aside just in case.

If we can have a bullish close on the daily chart we are likely to see +$11k levels, but this leg up could still be another lower high, so we shouldn't get overly excited even when the price touches $12k in the coming weeks.

As far week hands not being shaken out, most definitely not, but we've done well to shake out enough to fuel the current increase. Time will tell whether or not it will last, but people are certainly happy with it.
970  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2017 Crash DejaVu? on: July 18, 2019, 09:07:28 PM
And just like that in just one day Bitcoin rise from 9,000$ to 10,600$. It only shows that the bulls won't go down without a fight.
I think the bulls actually like these selloffs because it makes a further increase easier. It also helps making people more bearish in general and therefore open shorts because they expect the price to tank. After that it's squeeze time.

It's not healthy when the price goes up in a parabolic manner, regardless of how strong the bulls are-- all it takes is the momentum to shift for the bears to start unloading the coins they firmly held on the way up.

The more we see large holders unload right now, the less selling bulls have to eat through on the way up to a new yearly high. The bears selling will eventually buy back at higher levels to not lose out once again, which means more buying pressure. Smiley
971  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the Risk worth strengthening our economy ? on: July 18, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
Many consumers pretend to care but they end up just buying the cheapest product they can get. 
I can't blame them for that. I'm a consumer myself and look to buy that what's cheap and decent of quality. We all are out to shop at places where we can get the most bang for our buck.

I'm sure many do care about the environment and other things related, but not enough to justify buying goods that are more durable and generally more expensive. It's just the way people are.

I wish the world was so fixated on money being everything in life and cared more about helping others and not exploiting. 
You mean not so fixated on money, right? Our lives revolve around it, whether we like it or not, so we do prioritize money over most other things. Without it our life would suck. It's the center of everything.

I'm glad that there are wealthy individuals who do utilize a part of their wealth to finance cancer research, mental illness charities, etc. We all can do it, regardless of how small your donations are. I do it too and it feels good.
972  Economy / Economics / Re: Bill Holter and Jim Sinclair: Gold $87000 per Ounce at Least on: July 18, 2019, 04:42:17 PM
I would not still see the use of gold in form of digital money as being a decentralized one, because gold is a metal that is still being controlled physically and digitally, every details or transactions through gold is being know and there no one with digital gold that cannot be traced, except people that keeps it in solid form which they have to keep away and hid secretly from the government, otherwise they will be exposed to investigation.
I'm not referring to gold in digital form, because that doesn't exist. It's physical gold I'm referring to and this is just as, if not, more decentralized than Bitcoin is. I thought it should be fairly obvious.

This will be the unique feature of crypto, especially bitcoin, when it eventually become the new digital gold in future and will be very useful to have as store of value that is why we need to continue to support bitcoin, because this is the only system that I truly believe to be decentralized fully without any IOTA OF DOUBT.
Bitcoin is already that. It's just so that people need to adjust to a state they start accepting it. I personally haven't ever seen Bitcoin as anything other than digital gold.

Bitcoin is the improved version of gold. It doesn't need to be super fast for that because not everyone is constantly trying to move gold from one to another address, that's just what speculators mainly do.
973  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: TRADING of Bitcoin in a broker or exchange? on: July 17, 2019, 10:47:39 PM
But I will not rely on a broker if I can do my trades. Better learn the ropes of btc trading instead of hiring a broker to do your trading.
In this case a broker doesn't mean a person trading for you, but a platform allowing you to trade cash settled instruments like gold/silver/options/futures/etfs, etc. RobinHood is the most popular retail broker of CFDs.

BitMEX can be seen as a broker too. Instead of cash settled instruments they allow you to trade Bitcoin settled instruments. In both cases (exchange vs broker) you depend on a centralized platform to trade on.

Then there are the more professional forex brokers where you can lose more than what you put in if the market turns against your positions. These are the platforms you should avoid at all cost if you're a small fish retailer.
974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uncovering Bitcoin And Gold’s Not-So-Secret Relationship on: July 17, 2019, 09:43:48 PM
Bitcoin is simply better because it is decentralized.
Gold in physical form is even more decentralized than Bitcoin. It also offers a true peer to peer experience when transacting. The only thing it doesn't have going for itself is that there is little to no convenience.

Because no matter when you invest in it, in time you will become richer
That's an argument with no relevance in relation to Bitcoin being decentralized or not. Bitcoin is so new that it grows organically over time, while gold has already gone through that initial stage of growth.

Eventually Bitcoin will become a 'boring' asset class too. Don't assume that Bitcoin will keep going through +1000% bull runs indefinitely. Be happy that you are part of this revolution at what I consider still an early stage.
975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest battle for Bitcoin's life is coming on: July 17, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
Just remember that halving also means half production of bitcoins every 10 minutes. The market is getting less and less bitcoins as designed. Supply and Demand...
Also remember that we have gone up from $3000 to almost $14k already. Currently we're hovering around the $10k mark, which is still $7000 higher-- it increased enough to compensate for 50% less block rewards.

If the price doesn't go up much more than what it has already given us, the difficulty will either go down a bit or remain stable. The block halving is very important fundamentally, but it's not a one way rocket flight to the moon.

Another thing is that when the sentiment is going backwards where coins are being dumped on the market, the lower block rewards won't have much of an effect at all-- the price will go down regardless of that.
976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a Form of Anarchy on: July 17, 2019, 07:30:33 PM
Bitcoin can in no way be anarchical, as it doesn't intend to overthrow the government or it's system of payment
Bitcoin intends to do what you want it to do. If you want to work your way around governments and everything that's centralized, then Bitcoin is a fantastic tool allowing you to do so in the most convenient way.

Some people find Bitcoin more like a currency type of tool for payments, which is great too even though the on-chain transactions are quite an obstacle in that field. LN will be it then.

For the first time people can choose to do whatever it is they want with their finances. It's an incredible power that can't be stopped by anybody. Let people just use it the way they want and call it whatever they want. Freedom.
977  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-10] Fold App Enables BTC Lightning Payments at Whole Foods, Starbucks on: July 17, 2019, 06:44:19 PM
So what happens here is that you top up the Fold app through Lightning, then for example buy a Starbucks voucher, and use these to actually pay for coffee over at Starbucks.
I don't see much relevance in this. I can already buy gift cards through bitrefill with Bitcoin (main-chain + LN) and utilize them at Starbucks and orders of magnitude more merchants.

I have bought several food related gift cards and utilized them this year, and that without any problems. People are better off downloading the bitrefill app and start using it, and it works in a lot of countries.
978  Economy / Economics / Re: Reminder: Goldbugs are a joke on: July 16, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
I think it is not nice to call people joke if they want to get gold for savings. I mean gold is still one of the most viable value storage things in the world, I know we are using bitcoin and we like it over gold any day but that doesn't mean everyone should be like that.
It goes both ways. It's just action reaction. Bitcoiners consider gold to be shit and a horrible asset overall, while gold bugs refer to Bitcoin in the exact same way. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Both camps are emotionally connected to their investments. For most of them it's all or nothing and they won't shy away from trashing competing assets. Don't we largely have the same goal at the end of the day?

Gold is so strong in value storage that if you buy it constantly and keep it aside instead of stocks or forex or whatever than you will not lose any value over your purchasing power until you die
That's not entirely true. People who bought gold 5 years ago have booked a sub 10% net gain. Inflation is about 2% a year so based on that there is a loss of purchasing power.

It all comes down to what your entry point is. For some it might have been a fantastic hedge against inflation, and for some totally not, especially when you as retailer fomo bought around the top years ago.
979  Economy / Economics / Re: Does China Control Bitcoin? on: July 16, 2019, 09:23:22 PM
I think china has failed in this part thinking they could control bitcoin
China hasn't failed to control Bitcoin because it was never their intention. China wanted to make sure it has done just enough to make Bitcoin and crypto in general less appealing and a bit harder to dig into. I think they did well there.

I don’t see their ban of mining affecting cryptocurrency in any way, we might see a little side effect, but with time, everything will adjust itself and the market will continue smoothly if they eventually ban miners.
What ban? China didn't impose a ban on mining. Not sure where you got that information from, but it's false/fud. I would avoid the news outlets or certain individuals contributing to this fud circus.

If you look at the hashrates of most POW coins, they have nearly all gone up to all time high levels. If China really banned mining the consequences of that would be felt in a more severe way. Mining in China thrives as ever!
980  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2017 Crash DejaVu? on: July 16, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
As long as people insist on using bitcoin as an investment vehicle we should see epic crashes.  I would expect to see at least a 50% drop when crashing. 70 -90% being epic. There is no end in sight for this.
Exactly. People's main reason to be here is still speculation related-- buying what goes up and selling what goes down is part of every market. The sentiment is just as volatile as the price is.

I personally don't think we'll see the bullish trend come to an end unless we see two consecutive bearish closes on the monthly time frame. Currently everything is still looking good and this correction a healthy pullback.

I won't say this is a dip to buy into because we might go a bit lower, but these prices are becoming more interesting for those who dollar cost average once or twice a month. Lower price means more satoshis for your fiat.
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