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9621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Front page of the BBC! on: March 04, 2017, 02:43:20 AM
Here we go again. The mainstream media dipping their nose in Bitcoin. They love it now because the price is still going up and they will hype it like they did the first time. The next thing you know when it is being dumped the same mainstream media news sites and companies will say how Bitcoin is bad and all other lies just to sensationalize the news.
9622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Transaction Accelerator on: March 04, 2017, 02:37:15 AM
Politics aside, there is this tool which is more useful if you can get it to work:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1506632.0

I believe this will start a new trend. All mining pools will start their own transaction accelerators complete with a message of their own Bitcoin political agenda.

Segwit supporters, what are you waiting for? Do it and say why your accelerator is better.
9623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Chinese bitcoin investors that gullible? on: March 04, 2017, 02:30:55 AM
Franky1, it would be nice if you answer my question in the post I made before this. I would like to know what you think because I value your opinion even if we have different views and opinions sometimes. Thanks.
9624  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Irreversible payment methods? Protection for sellers advice needed on: March 04, 2017, 02:27:14 AM
Im from UK and like to start trading on localbitcoins.com

Is direct cash deposit into a bank account reversible? Also what about cash by mail?

Is there any online payment method apart from bitcoin that is truly Irreversible?

If you are trading with people who are located from within your country why not open a bank account with the biggest and most popular bank and accept only over the counter payments that can be made by making the deposit in your bank account. I am sure branch to branch deposits are allowed in your country. All the buyer needs is your name and bank account.


I read stories on forums where direct cash bank deposits can be reversed.

The buyer could say he was forced into making the deposit and hence the bank can reverse it for the buyer.

Then it would be a good thing to ask your bank, that has the account intended for your Bitcoin trades, if they do allow the reversal of over the counter deposits. As far as I know they are not allowed because that raises a lot of opportunities for fraudulent behavior.

Banks in UK are not bitcoin friendly. Any other suggestions?

Yes I know that. All banks are not Bitcoin friendly in case you did not know.

Have you tried using Localbitcoins before? Some of the traders there do over the counter deposits in the bank accounts of who they are trading with and vice versa. Go look into it before you close your mind on the idea.
9625  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE DUMP on: March 04, 2017, 02:16:03 AM
I did not expect this new price rise to happen again this soon. So let us ask _nur again to spend another 2 hours to create another projection on where the price of Bitcoin will be.

This proves my point that the people who like to show off their charting skills are usually amateur traders looking for validation while the real traders are very quiet and are making money.

Presented charts can result into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behavior which is sometimes dubbed as a self fulfilling prophecy. Forum sentiment so often gets caught up be the quiet ones you mentioned. Deep sea creatures of huge size, so to speak.
Enough reason to give a damn to these charts, trading into the oposite direction.

Even if it means that you will lose a big part of your capital in the process? That would be a big mistake if you follow investment advice from unknown people in the forum who mostly does not know what they are doing.
9626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Chinese bitcoin investors that gullible? on: March 03, 2017, 05:13:53 AM
ICO=pre-mined coins

majority of pre-mined coins are pump and dumps.
it does not matter how many coins are produced or any of that. unless a coin serves an actual purpose and actually has places to use a coin. its useless.


This brings me to this question. If an ICO coin or token has serves some actual purpose in its own platform like how Ethereum is used for "gas"to run smart contracts in the platform, would you say that kind of "use" is justifiable to not brand it as a pump and dump or ponzi scheme?

if ethereum cannot function without gas. and if ethereum too has an actual use. thus making 'gas' essential and usable for something real.. then yes it passes the usability test that it can survive beyond some fabricated promotional period.


But what if the platform itself is not scalable and cannot work as promised? These concerns are already slowly being voiced by some observers but they are not recognized by the developers. Instead the developers keep saying that Ethereum will work as promised but there is a chance they are hiding the truth. How would you classify something like that which is still hanging but know that there is a big chance it will not work? Ponzi or not?
9627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 03, 2017, 05:00:22 AM
Again it is all politics. Gavin started playing the game when he started campaigning for XT. Maybe he thinks he can reenter the scene when the network does the hard fork to Bitcoin Unlimited. All their moves always have a hidden purpose.

If you think about it both sides are doing the power grabbing depending on your point of view. On one side it is Blockstream and on the other it is Roger Ver and the Chinese miners who are supporting Bitcoin Unlimited.
9628  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE DUMP on: March 03, 2017, 04:45:50 AM
I did not expect this new price rise to happen again this soon. So let us ask _nur again to spend another 2 hours to create another projection on where the price of Bitcoin will be.

This proves my point that the people who like to show off their charting skills are usually amateur traders looking for validation while the real traders are very quiet and are making money.
We are now on the new ATH of bitcoins price which on $1200+ and for OP if he waited a little bit more before selling his stash maybe he could able to generate more profits.Id like to see the new plots been displayed above too since they make use of Harmonic and Fibonacci which is really good for technical analysis.

If it come from the amateur traders here in this forum, it would be better if you do not see it. What they come up with is useless and it mostly causes you to lose your money. Deep down they know they do not know what they are doing. They are only following what they have read in a book, from a forum or an instructional video on youtube.

lmao @ op

This cannot be stressed enough.
9629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Chinese bitcoin investors that gullible? on: March 03, 2017, 04:35:28 AM
ICO=pre-mined coins

majority of pre-mined coins are pump and dumps.
it does not matter how many coins are produced or any of that. unless a coin serves an actual purpose and actually has places to use a coin. its useless.


This brings me to this question. If an ICO coin or token has serves some actual purpose in its own platform like how Ethereum is used for "gas"to run smart contracts in the platform, would you say that kind of "use" is justifiable to not brand it as a pump and dump or ponzi scheme?
9630  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's keep the price floating above $1k still? on: March 03, 2017, 04:27:14 AM

The same thought had crossed my mind also. It is possible, but I am a little wary buying BTC at this price. But if the ETF gets approved, I'll be buying like its going out of fashion  Smiley

when ETF is approved and you find out about it through public channels and you decide to buy and then act on it, by that time it is already too late! because you are buying into a mini bubble.
people are buying right now and in the past couple of weeks and those who were aware of it before have been buying for years.

Or not a mini bubble but a Bitcoin price that is over $1300 and climbing fast to $2000 if the ETF gets approved. Deanero, if you are planning on buying Bitcoin after the ETF approval why not take a small to medium risk now and add more later if the outcome is positive?
9631  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Irreversible payment methods? Protection for sellers advice needed on: March 03, 2017, 04:07:16 AM
Im from UK and like to start trading on localbitcoins.com

Is direct cash deposit into a bank account reversible? Also what about cash by mail?

Is there any online payment method apart from bitcoin that is truly Irreversible?

If you are trading with people who are located from within your country why not open a bank account with the biggest and most popular bank and accept only over the counter payments that can be made by making the deposit in your bank account. I am sure branch to branch deposits are allowed in your country. All the buyer needs is your name and bank account.


I read stories on forums where direct cash bank deposits can be reversed.

The buyer could say he was forced into making the deposit and hence the bank can reverse it for the buyer.

Then it would be a good thing to ask your bank, that has the account intended for your Bitcoin trades, if they do allow the reversal of over the counter deposits. As far as I know they are not allowed because that raises a lot of opportunities for fraudulent behavior.
9632  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Irreversible payment methods? Protection for sellers advice needed on: March 02, 2017, 03:33:35 AM
Im from UK and like to start trading on localbitcoins.com

Is direct cash deposit into a bank account reversible? Also what about cash by mail?

Is there any online payment method apart from bitcoin that is truly Irreversible?

If you are trading with people who are located from within your country why not open a bank account with the biggest and most popular bank and accept only over the counter payments that can be made by making the deposit in your bank account. I am sure branch to branch deposits are allowed in your country. All the buyer needs is your name and bank account.
9633  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's keep the price floating above $1k still? on: March 02, 2017, 03:27:43 AM

Yes. The price might be reflecting the anticipation of the SEC's decision on the Bitcoin ETF. Honestly I wanted the price of Bitcoin to go down so I could buy more but since we got to this point, I now want the ETF to be approved. I want to see a $2000 Bitcoin by June or July.

The fact that the price is still climbing, do people here not think someone already knows that it might be surely approved and he is buying every Bitcoin he can right now?
9634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Chinese bitcoin investors that gullible? on: March 02, 2017, 03:17:23 AM
Why are they singling out Charlie Shrem? There are other ICOs in China that also deserves the same kind of attention. There is this new big ICO called Qtum that was featured in Coindesk a few months ago and it has formally announced that they had $1m in VC funding. They are also claiming that Roger Ver is an investor.

If you check their ANN thread there are a lot of dishonest stuff being exposed there. The lead developer or something was involved in an altcoin scam and ran away with hundreds of Bitcoins. The Chinese lawyer should question them too without bias.
9635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will BTC overtake gold this month ? on: March 02, 2017, 02:59:54 AM
I predicted bitcoin take at least three months to overtake the gold since the beginning of March the bitcoin has increased 4% from the previous price if prospects of bitcoin are still good or increased. but I think bitcoin still can't overtake the gold for this year, although I wish bitcoin will overtake gold in the near future

Have you not been watching? Gold spot price is at $1245 while Bitcoin is steadily rising and at is at $1226 if you base it in Bitstamp price. But some exchanges are higher so technically it has overtaken gold. You can see all the prices of Bitcoin in Coinmarketcap.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets
9636  Economy / Speculation / Re: THE DUMP on: March 02, 2017, 02:44:57 AM
I did not expect this new price rise to happen again this soon. So let us ask _nur again to spend another 2 hours to create another projection on where the price of Bitcoin will be.

This proves my point that the people who like to show off their charting skills are usually amateur traders looking for validation while the real traders are very quiet and are making money.
9637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 02, 2017, 02:37:45 AM
I admit that I still try to wrap my mind around the technical discussions about Bitcoin but knowing that there is politics involved here still makes me doubt what the hard fork to BU, Classic or XT is really all about. There has to be something like a power grab here. Also the argument that the Bitcoin Unlimited developers are not as good as the Core developers and contributors deserves notice.
9638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens if BU fails VS What happens if SegWit fails on: March 01, 2017, 09:50:29 AM
The problem with Bitcoin Unlimited if it "breaks" is it will have "not as good" developers. All they great thinkers in Bitcoin is at Core and all the good contributers support Segwit in my opinion.
9639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin fees have quadrupled, and this is just the beginning on: March 01, 2017, 03:34:04 AM
The question is : Are we paying more, because Bitcoin reached capacity or are we paying more because someone is spamming the network to fake congestion for their hidden agenda? 

Clearly we have reached capacity -- check the size of blocks, they are all 998, 999 etc.



Then why do the miners avoid activating Segwit or do the hard fork to Bitcoin Unlimited? Instead it is possible that someone from their side is spamming the network. Did last year's halving hurt their profit and earnings?

There is another thread somewhere, where some are saying "its spam" and others are saying its actually some kind of 'komodo' service (I havent investigated deeply).

I will have to look into that later before I can make a comment. I do not even know what "komodo" means except for the giant lizard found in Borneo.

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In any case, I think if we continue to see periods of congestion become more frequent, and unconfirmed backlogs grow larger, the situation will be brought to a head and something will give one way or another. 

Of course. A real compromise must take place. From what I heard activating Segwit and then a hard fork to larger block sizes is good because Segwit fixes many issues Bitcoin presently has. 
9640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin fees have quadrupled, and this is just the beginning on: February 28, 2017, 04:56:02 AM
The question is : Are we paying more, because Bitcoin reached capacity or are we paying more because someone is spamming the network to fake congestion for their hidden agenda? 

Clearly we have reached capacity -- check the size of blocks, they are all 998, 999 etc.



Then why do the miners avoid activating Segwit or do the hard fork to Bitcoin Unlimited? Instead it is possible that someone from their side is spamming the network. Did last year's halving hurt their profit and earnings?
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