10 days to go for pre-listing sales to start which will last from 1st of June to 3rd of June I'm quite excited not just because i intend to buy some more tokens but i also learnt that after the sales 4NEW plans to get listed.
Yep it’s a final preloading sale to get at ico rates before they finally list the token on the open markets it will be interesting to see how a token like this performs on the open market so far the teams been doing great and if the Puerto Rico plant go s through I think people will go nuts Everyone is excited about 4new token listing. But before that I want to see the response for pre-listing sale. I know response will be very good, but within 3days will it reach hardcap? Actually same question in my mind also. But in Crypto currency market anything can happen. So just wait and watch. I believe so but i am not getting my hopes up too soon. 4new has done everything right and it would be a big surprise if the hardcap isn't reach during the pre-listing sale but again this is cryptocurrency. I agree. 4New has done everything beyond expectations. I am just hoping for the pre-listing sales to be highly successful and move forward with the project development and exchange listing. That would be more fun. |
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Just few days to go for the start of pre-sales of Vanig. What you guys think about it? What would be your guess for the first day investments? Its like a guess game.
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It is certain that listing on Coss exchange will cause that the price fall down because:
1) Coss is a small exchange
2) Bounty hunters will sell their profits
3) 2019-2022 will be a working product
I agree with this summary. But do you think all bounty hunters will sell their tokens? I am not sure about it. I know lots of bounty hunters also HODL. They become smart these days. |
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If you have solar panels on the roof and go on vacation, then much of the energy generated goes into the local power grid. And almost for free
With Bittwatt you can save the future in storage power plants and retrieve after the holiday again. Cool feature
You mean to say that we can stored energy our local power grid and whenever we want that we can use it?  Kinda like what Tesla did in Australia, built a huge solar capacitor that stored energy till it's needed, I assume as the token 'stores' 1KW of energy, if you hold 100 tokens, that's 100KW you can use as and when you want. That's pretty cool, never thought of it that way, so holding bittwatt is like holding power in your hands, decentralization is really making scenarios we only see in movies come to life, this is probably the best technology of the century and projects such as these will give the population reason to be part of the blockchain industry Thats true. Holding BWT is like holding power in our hands. Thats what my understanding is. More and more partnerships from various countries comes in, more and more benefit for the token holders like us. I normally HODL my high quality tokens. BWT is one of the tokens for that category. Long term view for this token is very good as we see lots of partnerships came in as well as very efficient team. |
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The MVP sneak peak they put in looks really good, the UI is very clean.  Yea, looks good. Seems to be user-friendly and elegant website, easy and understandable for every person. Wow.. really good. UI looks very clean and easy to use as well as user friendly. Who can really test this? Can we test it or somebody from community? |
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What is the status of tokens sale? I don't see any changes in token sale bar, looks like it's not updated since last 3-4 days? Or I am looking at wrong place  ? I thought i was the only one that noticed it... There is no changes on the website that indicates that the 4th phase ico is on... Although they announced it on their twitter handle. Bittwatt really need to check this out. Probably they are updating manually. That could be the only reason I could think of. Also its long weekend in Europe. So it might get updated after Tuesday may be. Looking forward for the update. |
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There's recently been a few various energy projects entering the cryptocurrency market. This one seems to be best poised to follow through with their plans.
They already are, two power plants bought producing 10 MW, another due to be built next year, and this other rumour in Puerto Rico. It ain't rumors bro, it's been confirmed by the team and its everywhere in the telegram group, one power plant to be set up in Puerto Rico is confirm news  So there will be 3 plants at the end of this year from 4new? that is amazing now those 22 plants in 5 years seem very close. Yep they are definitely moving fast and keeping ahead of their roadmap, so if they continue this pace the 5 year outlook is very possible i don't see why it wouldn't be monitoring their progress is going to be nuts to see. I'm hoping we get more videos and information from the existing plants and the new ones as they come up would be interesting to see webcams/dashboard with data eventually. I don't see a confirmation anywhere, only that they have entered talks to establish one, this is not confirmation that it is being built, can you link me to where it's confirmed? So far, I have only seen one video in which one of the 4New team speaks from the power plant in Puerto Rico. But as I know 4New meanwhile, they will simply surprise us and from one day to the next there is a video of a drone flight over the new power plant I agree with you. Surprises are integral part of 4NEW project. I have a very simple question. Why this project is called 4NEW? anyone knows about it? |
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still 14 days to pre-sale. I'm getting pretty impatient :-)
I'm really curious how many investors can and want to pay the minimum investment
Is this date already announced? That would be super nice if it is already confirmed. I am also looking forward for the pre-sales opening of Vanig. |
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you are absolutely right. Imagine if there had been no competition in the first few years of the internet, then we would all still surf with Internet Explorer 5 :-)
I hope Vanig is the new Netscape / firefox and takes online shopping to a new level
Oh dear god don't even joke about that, IE5/6 omg the horror, don't bring back memories! From someone whos done web development your gonna give me nightmares! As for vanig though, your definitely right, industries like retail tend to get into their groove until something shakes them up, the last time that happened was the internet bringing us amazon, it shook up brick and mortars like no ones business, it will be interesting to see if blockchain based distributed networks can shake up the market of the online retailers like amazon did to the brick and mortar. sorry bro, I did not want to open old wounds  As far as your last sentence is concerned, I'm even 100% sure that blockchain technology will completely change the online market. In a few years we will not know it any different. And then hopefully Vanig is really one of the big players, as I expect I am not even using IE now. I use google chrome. Hope Vanig creates such platform where people love to go shopping all the time Why we are talking about IE5/6 here? Now we are in completely different world. The number of people using IE are very limited these days. Vanig's platform would be definitely user friendly. |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
From my own perception and view of things they are doing the right thing already, putting in place before hand what they intend on achieving, buying at 2$ now seems to me as a smart decision, I mean it could go up or down but the long term growth of it is both certain and my focus I am agreeing with more than 100%. 4NEW is really long term story. You cannot construct or buy power plant and utilize the tokens almost immediately. It takes time. Honestly project team is moving faster than expected or even their own roadmaps. I also miss this project at the start of ICO. But after some research on this project I decided to invest. I have registered in pre-listing and waiting for 1st June. The plants are a real milestone achieved. Talks in other regions began too. It is not long now until the pre-listing sale and we should see since the plants are operational the expectancy is that to see the volume hit its highest and price too given the demand would be immediate. For sure its a huge milestone achieved by the team. Two working plants and one more in pipeline. Who knows there might be some more acquisition or partnerships are in pipeline which will come out soon. |
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The scope of this project revolves around improving security of energy supply, and maximizing the efficiency of production, conversion, transport, distribution and use of energy.
Apart from that this project is going to be huge in many ways.
I agree with your statement. The project is going to be huge for sure. We heard lots of partnership in the recent days. For sure we will get more news in the coming days. I am waiting for that. |
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4new comes up with a unique project, and it will not only be a profitable business, but also an excellent form of service for humanity, since it believes that it is necessary to use useless household waste.
Household waste is already being used to generate heat and electricity, 4New took it to the next step and wants to feed a crypto mining farm Crypto mining is their first target. Once its successful, they can utilize it for many many applications in the world. World needs such environmental friendly approach for the generation of energy. |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb  Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. Right now the total crypto market cap is at $375 bln. Just compare this market cap to the one from big companies like Apple. There is soo much room for growth. And when we see a market cap of a >trillion, just imagine how all coins will profit from this. It will take ages before we see the market at that level. Especially people should stop scamming and make use of the advantages of crypto. By that time, legit project like Bittwatt will be in the moon for sure. |
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Owlllrighttee... Vanig Platform Telegram channel just shared some fresh news: Team Vanig is at Consensus 2018 Blockchain Conference in NY  That's cool, nice to hear. It's there any information or news yet if they are going to be giving any talk or something of such during the conference? For this year's conference We are just attending to meet and network with people in crypto world https://medium.com/vanigplatform/vanig-at-consensus-2018-8bbe0d70b7f5I just wanted to come back to the Consensus discussion. Does anyone know if they plan to release another blog article about their time on the conference and maybe who they met that could become a potential partner of Vanig. That would be awesome because there were a lot of big companies there and big investors i will ask this in their Telegram because it would be amazing. Exactly, that would be better. If they will publish any another article/blog about Vanig so we will also know about current status or updates. Vanig's official blog channel is in medium. The link is quoted here. They regularly update all the information about Vanig there. The next channel is their telegram channel. Lots of discussions are ongoing there. |
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If I buy the token now, per token will cost me 0.12 USD. What could be the price after listing? I have seen some message which says BittWatt token will trade in 3 digits by 2022. Is this possible?
let me have a look in my glass orb Noone can tell you the value of the token in the future, if you think the price will drop after listing on exchange, you can place low valued buy orders to get some cheap tokens, BittWatt however looks quite promising and I doubt the price will go much lower than the first buy offers that will be placed on the exchange haha, yeah we'd all be millionaires if we could tell the after ICO price of coins Look at it this way, they're making huge progress with the partnerships they are establishing, however lets be realistic, 3 digits is a long way off if you mean it'll be in the hundreds. That do you mean to say it can be possible by year 2022? How? I mean they are planned anything about Bittwatt something different and big? How they will calculate this much profit? Assuming they sell 200m tokens and the token price rises to $ 10, that would be an MC of $ 2bn. But what speaks against an MC of 20 billion in a few years, when more an more money comes into the market? then we would be already at $ 100 / token. The future will tell us Theoretically this calculation is right. But when it becomes practical, not sure what will happen. Only time will tell us. We just have to wait and see. Nevertheless, Bittwatt is not a bad pick to add to portfolio. |
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Just found a quick statement by Brett on Twitter from Consensus: https://twitter.com/VanigPlatform/status/996825834630664193 A lot of great things are happing. Great minds, great people, great relationships are being formed. We are excited to show you whats next with Vanig. Stay tuned! Now I am really getting excited. Awesome, Can't wait to see what comes from it. I think with the patent pending and the if the MVP goes well, they'll be well set to put themselves in a very good position. Yea, the expectation of the community is pretty high, everyone is trying to test or perhaps get a review of what the MVP is all about, the patent process tend to take sometime because it involves a lot of paperwork and i believe that they will soon round up the process and get things up and running Brett look very excited. I hope Vanig project will crack some partnership deals at this blockchain meet. Vanig project is good and others project would love to join Vanig. Exciting times ahead for sure, Vanig will do great at the event I'm sure, the statistics speak for themselves. Cutting fee's down to around 8% in comparison to amazons 18-20% !!!! I did not know that Amazon's fees are that high. Of course, the 8% of Vanig are already a good offer. Another incentive to sell at Vanig :-) This will be an interesting fight in the e-commerce business in the future If you compare the feeses than i think VANIG has already won but they do need to get a lot of popularity like amazon. That's a long way to go. But they conquer first the Asian market and then the whole world :-) I'm sure in 10 years Vanig will be one of the 3 big ones Starting in asia is a wise choice the fact is the asian market is just massive, if you can even grab a small subset of the existing market away from the market leaders like alibaba it would be already a hugely sustainable new market maker Did anybody ask this question to the team? what is their complete picture on this? Why Asia? Even though I agree with you that Asia is a very big market and it could be really huge. |
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I came to know about this project from social media platform. And I have checked whitepaper and some videos about 4NEW and now I am going through the discussion on this thread.
It seems that I found this project late, but I still have chance to participate in pre-listing token sale. Since they already have two power plants and trying to crack a new deal I think it will be still good decision to buy the token at 2 USD?
From my own perception and view of things they are doing the right thing already, putting in place before hand what they intend on achieving, buying at 2$ now seems to me as a smart decision, I mean it could go up or down but the long term growth of it is both certain and my focus I am agreeing with more than 100%. 4NEW is really long term story. You cannot construct or buy power plant and utilize the tokens almost immediately. It takes time. Honestly project team is moving faster than expected or even their own roadmaps. I understand the risk also. I am also worried that bounty hunters will dump the tokens and it will affect the price. But I don't expect it to go down below ICO price. What I will do is, I will invest half amount now and will invest half after listing. If you have done your own research and decided to buy the tokens then go ahead. I also see good future for 4new as the team is working very hard and achieving goals before time. There's a lot of potential in 4new and you can see that from the team, the determination to get the work done is quite extraordinary and with this comes confidence but i will advice to still do your own research and invest at your convenience solely on your own decision. I agree with you completely. Do we already know the exact date of pre-listing sales? Is it still going to be only for 3 days? I would like to see more information on that part. I know this will be in the first week of June. But never seen the exact date and details. I am also looking forward to hear about that. The most important point I would like to know is what would be their target? |
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This is amazing news do we already know how this has been going? i mean is it confirmed that 4NEW is going to build a plant in Puerto Rico now? This news seems to be true. 4New is rocking. Before even the ICO is closed, still listing is pending but progress is moving to moon. So good to be part of the community. Congratulations team. Guys, what's the current output from existing two power plants. I heard it's 10 MW per hour? Is that true? Also this output can go up in future or that's the limit? yes, that's correct. Each plant is currently generating 5MW of power, you can see it in the plant tour video, it shows the generator rooms and the output of each of them. 2 working plants and one more in Peurto Rico and I am almost sure that team will announce any other plant purchase or partnership before the pre-listing sales starts. One of the best team I am seeing with regards to the efficiency. |
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I am thirst for more partnership announcements from the Bittwatt team. When will be the next partnership announcement come in? How big would be that announcement? Fingers crossed and waiting..
A partnership announcement would be really great to have now. I think this part of the progress would mostly involve getting more suppliers on board and I think they will be fueling the network with more offers. Your right, at this stage in the ICO - in the final hurdle with no bonuses on offer, now would be a perfect time to release an update or partnership giving a good reason for other investors to get on board and reach the hardcap I am sure team will certainly have some idea. Thats why they have marketing people right? Lets just wait and watch and may be look for any last minute announcements which could trigger a huge buy orders. |
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