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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 04:39:06 PM
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
I will send from myetherwallet but every ICO i created the token (add custom token) and put the information (address, token symbol and decimals).

I didn't see this step. I don't know if i need to create add custom token.


thks,

We will add token to MyEtherWallet so you will not need to worry about that.

How many coins will be distributed during the token sale? How many tokens will there be in total (max supply)? Is the supply capped or new tokens will be made and distributed throughout the life of this business (deflationary/inflationary)?

Total number of tokens depends on number of raised ETH. Number of SNC are final, there will be no further sale of SNC tokens.

So if you raise your cap of 100k ETH then there will be a supply of around 10 billion SNC's?

closer to 1,5 billion of SNC tokens
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 02:20:09 PM
I will send from myetherwallet but every ICO i created the token (add custom token) and put the information (address, token symbol and decimals).

I didn't see this step. I don't know if i need to create add custom token.


thks,

We will add token to MyEtherWallet so you will not need to worry about that.

How many coins will be distributed during the token sale? How many tokens will there be in total (max supply)? Is the supply capped or new tokens will be made and distributed throughout the life of this business (deflationary/inflationary)?

Total number of tokens depends on number of raised ETH. Number of SNC are final, there will be no further sale of SNC tokens.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 01:50:30 PM
Hello Suncontract,

Excuse me if I've been unpleasant in my last post.

Would it be better, if I've been asking "Hello, don't you have any person responsible for marketing in your team?"?

I'm sorry if I didn't asked simply and politely, because I it is very very important.

At the begining, I found SNC very good. After a while I found your low popularity in Google, now you are becoming worse because you are ignoring my warning...

We did with funds the best we could. But for now we do not need to be on first site because we have a lot of development ahead of us. After token sale we will improve our position and hire marketing companies that will help us spread the word of SunContract.

Step by step, slowly and surely.


Do I need create my token address in myetherwallet or only send ETH to address (suncontract)?


Because I didn't see this step


thks

You need to send ETH from your private wallet; exchange might not give you SNC tokens.
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 12:55:22 PM
Block time has increased so our token sale will start one and a half hour later. Check block number 3943550
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 11:43:47 AM
Only few hours before ICO Smiley

I'm sure that it will work !

This is just for your double check. Do not deposit any ETH before block: 3943551


Official ETH address
https://twitter.com/sun_contract/status/880025769732431872
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Max supply ?
Equivalent to 100,000ETH with all bonuses and team percentage.
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 06:47:31 AM
I don't really understand, how can one sell electricity to another. I understand how you can sell to the utility company (or grid), but to another person? How does that work? My understanding is that current methods of sale result in the seller receiving energy credits. Can those credits be transfered? Such an interesting concept.

Me neither moreoever the companies will never let a blockchain based start-up cut their income off. The idea behind the project is okay, but it's not applicable. Frankly saying.

Hi,

In EU market is liberalized so utility company cannot just decide who will have access to the grid and who will not have one. All have same possibilities to address customers. So SunContract will act as a normal player on a market but with better technology and lower costs/margins
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 28, 2017, 06:43:17 AM
Hi,

some latest news before the beginning of ICO. Please note all needed information will be send to your email if you subscribed on our newsletter. Also OUR ADDRESS WILL SHOW UP ON OUR WEB PAGE suncontract.org (this is only official web site) when the timer will count out.

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Latest news on SunContract

Dear SunContract community,

Lately, our office became one of the busiest places in Ljubljana, Slovenia. We are making our final preparations for our token sale, having different meetings and are presenting ourselves to the local community. Here are some updates about happenings from last week.

New team members

Our team is now almost complete. During last week, four new members joined our team. First newcomer is Leo Lu, who is a Deputy Sales Director in one of the biggest Chinese photovoltaic companies EGING PV. He will help with Solar market advices.

Next we recruited Tomislav Mučič who will serve as a blockchain consultant. He is coming from the company that built the CreditBit blockchain, Netis d.o.o. In Netis, Tomislav works as a CEO. He is also a well-known individual from the Slovenian crypto community.

Gregor Karlovšek, MBA of University of Groningen, has 14 years of professional experience in Energy, Finance, IT and Fintech (blockchain) of which 10+ years have been on senior positions. Currently, he is working in HSE, the biggest Slovenian energetic holding as the Executive Director Sales & Trading. Gregor will provide Blockchain Energy Advice to the team.

Last but not least is Sebastjan Štucl who works in IBM as a Delivery Manager and will assist our team with Blockchain Business Advice.

Read more about it here: http://blog.suncontract.org/post/162321080063/latest-news-on-suncontract
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 27, 2017, 11:10:47 AM
Hi guys, bellow are provided additional information on how to send ETH from MyEtherWallet to our Smart Contract address. Please note that final address will be provided tomorrow when we announce it

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Sending ETH to SunContract Token sale Address

Now that you have successfully created your personal Address and sent ETH from your exchange, you can send ETH to provided Smart Contract Address.

Go to https://www.myetherwallet.com/ and on the main page click on Send Ether & Tokens. You will need to use the UTC file and password or Private Key again. As we already tried the first option, I am only going to describe how the Private Key option works. Select the Private Key option, type in your Private Key and click Unlock to go back to your Wallet.



Read more about it here: http://blog.suncontract.org/post/162313044538/sending-eth-to-suncontract-token-sale-address

451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 27, 2017, 09:00:15 AM
reserve dutch translation pls
Hi,

right now we are not searching for any new translations. We will keep you in mind in the case of need.

Best
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 26, 2017, 03:23:28 PM
Anyone that would like to check out our Smart Contract can do so here: https://github.com/SunContract/SmartContracts



I have submitted my ETH address to take part in the priority pass, when can we expect the deposit address to be released?

Nicely done. As it is the case with other projects you can expect deposit address to be released few hours before token sale. We Will keep you posted through subscribed email
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 26, 2017, 12:55:17 PM
Pre – Sale registration period extended until Wednesday



In the last few days, we were collecting Ethereum addresses for our Pre Sale bonus and have received tremendous support. Unfortunately some of you have had issues receiving our emails or providing your Ethereum address. Therefore, we have decided to extend the Pre-Sale registration period until Wednesday, June 28th, when we will begin accepting deposits.

The token sale will start on Wednesday at 3PM UTC. Everyone who submits their Ethereum address by then will be entitled to a Pre-Sale bonus in the first week of the Token Sale for all deposits sent from registered addresses.

Official start of the Token Sale is Wednesday 3PM UTC, when we will enable deposits for both registered and unregistered addresses. Registered addresses will be entitled to a Pre Sale bonus price of 11,600.00 SNC per ETH.

We are doing final audits of our Smart Contract to ensure optimal security and will deploy it to GitHub soon.

If you have any questions you are welcome to join us on our Slack chat https://join.slack.com/suncontractteam/shared_invite/MTg4NTk0NDk5NzkzLTE0OTYwMTAwNzktNDJkYzIwMDZmZQ

If you are experiencing problems subscribing your address to the Pre-Sale list, please check your Spam or Promotion folder in your inbox. If you need additional support please contact us at info@suncontract.org.
454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 25, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
Lol, you guys who are posting only because you have their sig and want to protect your investment in it are crazy. I am not going to address anything anymore.

I don't mind how much you guys invest and lose,I was just putting the word out.

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate you making such an effort to post (even if this time it was copy paste) something this elaborate to make other people aware and perhaps do extra due diligence. Everybody can decide for their own after that.
With so many ICO's going on right now, I can consider a post like this very helpful, thanks!

At Suncontract: good luck with the ICO and the project! Smiley

Hey, really appreciate your comment. You are absolutely right. But his post did not have much to do with our project that is why we asked to read through our project.

And we also think there is great need of due diligence among all those projects. That is why we try to be online as much as we can.

Thank you for your wishes.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 25, 2017, 10:00:18 AM
Energy market will be centralized and governments will have hands over it. Saying you are building new solarpowered crypto is joke and scam. You can do all trading through tokens like ether or bitcoin or similar, so there is no need for suncontract coin.

From your whitepaper: "The idea is to join together electrical power producers and consumers and enable them to trade electricity through the Pool". For sure you can do it through simple website, but how can you transfer energy through internet. First of all someone has to pay infrastructure which is essential for energy transfer. Don't tell me that you will pay infrastructure with suncontact coins, because this will be near impossible and compare suncontract to bitcoin is joke. Your whitepaper says that you will cut the middle man, but hey fellows, in energy business the government is the middle man, so I think you can't erase is from equation.


from you whitepaper page 15: "A crucial aspect in developing a Suncontract Energy Pool is a mobile app ." NO guys, that for sure not crucial. The crucial thing is INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ENERGY TRANSFER, not you mobile app.   Roll Eyes which a 20yeqar old guy can develop for thousand bucks.   

I'm doing crypto for 3 years now and i like to invest in ICOs which are detailed explained in more then 20 more-free-space-than-words pages.



Please try to investigate about project a bit before you make SCAM claims.

Clearly you do not know energy sector that well. EU energy sector is liberalised and be sure our legal team knows what is doing. There are a lot of jurisdictions that are prepared for that kind of energy trading. From which country are you coming from? We can take a look in it and see if this is possible there.

We never said that energy will be send through internet. How would that be even possible???

SunContract will use existing infrastructure. The only difference will be that blockchain will make it more efficient and automatized. A lot of traditional retailer's costs will be reduced due to blockchain efficiency. So yes, Mobile APP is one of the most important aspects because we want to bring energy trading into the hand of ordinary person.

If you want we can explain you more detailed our concept but please if you do not understand it do not claim we are scam. Some of our staff is working in energy sector for 20 years and more and it is really offensive towards their knowladge and experiences.
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 25, 2017, 08:59:04 AM
Guys, just to remind you, today is the last day before our Priority Pass opening. If you want to get in before Wednesday you can subscribe for our newsletter from where we will send all information. If you do not get email then check SPAM or PROMOTION in your Inbox.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 24, 2017, 11:51:18 AM
Here is a post I made on another similar project. Decentralization on the grid will never work for the following reason. Some of the facts could be beyond the scope for the project, but most of them apply.

Do Not Risk a Penny on this

Here is why:
1. This is not a new idea. I work for a utility company and we have been investing billions in microgrid projects. This is exactly what it is. You create a local community / local grid, where people can support each others energy demands. The only exception here is that they are creating a decentralized buying/selling system.

BUT utility companies are never going to allow this, because it does not pay to maintain the traditional grid infrastructure.

There are already laws in place for exactly this reason, that people cannot sell their electricity to other people directly.

What this company, and other similar companies like trans active grid are doing is creating a token to make that sell-buy to get around that law(which states money isn't to be used).

Here is what will happen after. Governments will realize people are trying a way around and will BAN any asset trading that would lead to violating that law. All the money invested in these companies  and their platforms will collapse.

Utility companies in the near future will be launching microgrid systems.

2. Volatility in the Token Market:  The token that the company is selling again is not real money. They will be used in the platform they are launching, which means people will be buying and selling it ultimately leading to a market for that token on an exchange.

So if I am a person in a small society looking to participate in a decentralized energy production and buying platform, I would firstly have to buy these tokens, and then sell it to meet my real life demands.

But this  token will be traded on an exchange, the price will be volatile just like bitcoin and hence a normal person would simply not be interested in such a technology due to the price variation in the tokens. Because that could mean losing money by selling to the platform as theilr sole incentive was to be informed on who they are selling to, and getting slightly higher price than selling to utility companies.

 3. No Need for Decentralization on grid : Governments around the world buy electricity on smart grids at competitive prices. There is really no need for decentralization of grids except in third world countries where there are problems such as energy shortage etc. because utility companies have a monopoly and benefit by power outages.

But I predict that as smart grids evolve, companies like Tesla will take care of the buying/selling platform by offering something like Uber. But again that requires privatization of the grid.

And all the subsidies and incentives government provides are only to those selling and buying from the grid. They won't offer it for a private microgrid.

4. Smart Meters:
Utility companies have started providing free smart meters to its customers. What this company intends to do is use the blockchain for accounting of the electricity produced and used. But it will require customers to install separate meters which would cost a lot. Things will go wrong, and will need to be fixed.


5. Storage: Storage is currently a big issue for solar. Installing a solar system is expensive, but installing a storage system/batteries is even more expensive. Hence most of the houses that buy solar, usually do it as to only satisfy 60-70% of their electricity needs. A lot of those houses usually do not generate an excess. This means what this entire project is relying upon i.e community buying and selling is not going to be a big thing in a neighborhood.  

What I am trying to say is , that blockchain and grids is a great combination. But utility companies have already started doing and investing in it. In general there is no reason for one resident of an area to see the production/consumption of another, which means that there is no need for a decentralized electric grid system. People have meters in their home and all the data relevant to them is already transparent.

All these companies are doing great work, but I don't think a Token sale is the way to go because once the token is on an exchange, it will kill the motivation of the local resident to even participate in that purchase/sale.  What these companies need to do is find investors for a direct investment than creating an altcoin to just get more money, which I feel is the scammy part.

First question to your writing from us: From where are you? Different countries has different legislation and that is why we will allocate 10% of all raised money to legal matters.

1.   We never claimed that is a new idea. We just believe we are the first one that will be actually able to pull this off. Most of our team is coming from Energy sector and understands all details about how this market is working. We are trying to build energy-trading platform where producer will be able to directly sell production to final customers without the need of retailer who acts as a middleman.
Clearly you copied your this post from other thread and did not even bother to check out our idea. If you would do that then I’d see we are not trying to cut out national grid. National grid will still take care of distribution and customers will still need to pay for it. The only thing we will change is connecting two opposed sites together. Other aspects will stay as they are.
Why we asked you about from which country you are? Because different jurisdictions need different approach. In EU countries energy market is liberalized so governments cannot decide on how can use grid and who cannot. So again, please check our project before you call it a scam.

2.   We are developing mechanism that will neutralize volatility affect. Actually, our platform will be made in a way people without any knowledge of blockchain will still be able to use it in a traditional way. System behind platform will make it as easy as possible even to people that do not want to educate themselves about this new technology. And we strongly believe this is the right approach as we will reach all of the population.

3.   This is not true. In EU you can see there are many countries that are trying to build systems where production of electricity is localized. Take for example Germany. They are shutting down nuclear power plants and as well coal power plants and try to take advantage of solar and wind power. And those solar power units are built locally on private houses etc. We do not believe grid needs to be privatized to encourage investments into green technologies and Smart grids.

4.   Again, you are stating something that is not true. We will use existing meters and existing grid.

5.   Our entire project is NOT relying upon storage capacities and we did not state that anywhere. Maybe project stated that where you posted original post but we for sure do not thing storage would be relying point. We have solutions for energy shortages during the night and during bad weather. Keep in mind we will not use only solar power plants but also other renewables. We will also do hybrid system so we are not worried about that.

One last thing. At least we agree on something: blockchain and energy grids are great combination indeed. But here is a question to you: Why would one need to sell electricity to utility company which sole purpose is to buy cheap and sell expensive? Why would not this particular person rather take some of utility’s margin at keep it for itself and on the other end why would consumer buy electricity with high margin if end-price can be lower?

We are doing token sale because we are not big retailer company but are rather small and want to disrupt big players in energy sector. The same as Bitcoin did in financial sector.
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 24, 2017, 09:00:51 AM
Hi all,

We sent out instructions for Priority Pass where we ask you to tell us your Ethereum address from where you will contribute ETH. We will put those addresses to Smart Contract. Only those addresses added to the Smart Contract will be able to contribute through Priority Pass, others will have to wait until Token Sale. If someone did not get this email, please check first Spam or Promotion (on Gmail). If you still did not get it then ask @mgabor to check if you are in our mailing list. But please first make sure you really did not get email.

Thank you all for great support!

Thanks for this great information. One of my brother didn't get the email, but when i told him to look for the spam, he found the email at the junk folder. I think we can make it to the safe sender list to get the further emails directly in inbox (for Gmail Users only).
I am looking forward for this priority pass a good feature to contribute the ETH.
is the pass is for those people who are member here in this signature campaign? and what about the other people who want to participate. as my friend is also interested to join the ICO, are they going to wait for the toke. and they cannot get the preyority pass?
M
No pass is not for the participants of signature campaign alone but along with them it is also for everyone. Everyone can buy the pass from now. They need to send their ethereum wallet address to the developers of suncontract team to get participated.

If you subscribe to our newsletter on webpage suncontract.org you will get invitation

This project appears in a good moment.
When the world is in an energy crisis.
This is the solution for now.
Is there a bounty?

Hmm, check with our bounty manager. Twitter should be still opened.

Guys will there be only ETH option to participatei n ICO or there will be also other options?

Other ICOs that I participated before accepted many different ways of payment to make it easy for the users, payments like bitcoin and bank transfers.

Thank you...

We will only accept ETH so we can do ICO through Smart Contract to make it transparent for all of you. Plus in ETH everyone will have same conditions because there will be no need to recalculate other currencies into SNC.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 23, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
Hi all,

We sent out instructions for Priority Pass where we ask you to tell us your Ethereum address from where you will contribute ETH. We will put those addresses to Smart Contract. Only those addresses added to the Smart Contract will be able to contribute through Priority Pass, others will have to wait until Token Sale. If someone did not get this email, please check first Spam or Promotion (on Gmail). If you still did not get it then ask @mgabor to check if you are in our mailing list. But please first make sure you really did not get email.

Thank you all for great support!
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SNC] SunContract - Decentralized Energy Market on: June 23, 2017, 01:18:45 PM
Running final tests in our private network. It looks good!

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