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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO investment or Altcoin investment? on: April 14, 2018, 04:29:47 AM
I am severely biased against ICO's because of the declining quality since 2016... I'd rather find  a good altcoin with a serious dev team, than another bootstrapped whitepaper with a nice website, that ask for ETH in exchange of a worthless ERC20 token. So for me, clearly it's altcoin. Some ICO are worth investigating, but we're talking about a very few sample since 2017 and the explosion of ICOs backed by NO product.
same with me, i prefer altcoin investment, because if we calculate from time more profitable. many ico that price token drop after market listing. so we will need long time to get profit, and sometimes with a good roadmap ico is not necessarily successful
1042  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN]Helbiz-Penyewaan Transportasi P2P di Blockchain. PreSale sedang Berlangsung on: April 14, 2018, 04:22:49 AM
Ane baca-baca telegramnya helbiz akan listing di market tanggal 26 april nanti, tanggal 16 april nanti akan di umumkan harga helbiz. Ini yang ane bingung, apa helbiz ga mengikutin harga iconya atau gimana ya.

Yang jelas tetap akan mengacu dari harga ico nya gan,kalau enggak mengacu harga ico ya terus bagaiman yang beli tokennya di ico,,mungkin hanya akan disesuaikan untuk harga token yang beli diawal dan beli di ahir,kan kalau dihitung pakai konversi ETH dan dollar jauh juga selisihnya

nah itu dia gan, kalau kita konversi ETH dan dollar pada waktu pre-sale jelas tinggi. ane sih berharap harga yang di tentukan helbiz nantinya tidak dibawah harga ICO, kalau bisa sih diatas harga ICO.  Roll Eyes
tentunya hal ini karena market juga sedang turun, tetapi setidaknya harga berdasar pada eth yaitu 6000hbz/eth. sehingga dari pihak investor juga tidak terlalu kaget dengan dana yang sudah mereka gelontorkan secara usd
1043  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you prefer Bitcoin or Ethereum ? on: April 14, 2018, 04:14:21 AM
Ethereum proved itself to me in 2017. Ethereum is not an ordinary altcoin, nowly it is market maker together with Bitcoin. Many ICOs are Ethereum based. At the beginning it reflected the price of Ethereum negatively but then it changed and Ethereum is a very valuable coin. As a result both are advantageous for investments.
from that then i am sure will be many investors who will see and invest in ethereum. and this moment that will make eth price will rise high, and finally become the parent of altcoin, beside that i choose eth because the price still cheap
1044  Economy / Economics / Re: Being a Smart Person or Strategic on: April 14, 2018, 04:08:44 AM
i will be choosing both of them because being strategic and smart are both the same in terms of business because for you to earn good money in your business you need to be smart in thinking products to have more customers while being strategic you need to think a strategy or a plan to process your business wisely.
yes, if we can choose both because mutually supportive. with a smart person so that person will think right strategy to achieve maximum results, so it will be more effective and efficient
1045  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] TokenPay | Koin paling aman di dunia | Penjualan Token 7 Desember on: April 13, 2018, 02:27:45 AM
agan2 yang join bounty tokenpay , tolong agan cek spreadsheet yang sudah mengisi form dengan address tokenpay . saya temukan ada banyak cheater yang mengisi form sebab akun saya sendiri telah di klaim oleh cheater .

ini link spreadsheet nya :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bSzsy_2gwtybJv43o2WUrDXYPBBR5tGirhJI5lPFQT0/edit#gid=2004953704

Wah gan,,itu harus di laporkan sama managernya,,para penipu itu kok ya bisa-bisanya minum keringat orang lain,,payah kalau itu gan,,pasti akan merugikan pesrta yang asli
Sangatlah disayangkan jika ini sampai terjadi dan tokennya telah didistribusikan pada peserta. Selain merugikan pihak proyek maka dari pihak yang merasa dirugikan lagi adalah member yang datanya dipakai oleh cheaters tersebut. Kalau sampai Manager lalai dan jarang memeriksa spreasheet maka hal ini sangat sering terjadi. Penipuan semacam ini sudah sangat sering terjadi belakangan ini.

ehh buset id saya juga di tuyul sama mereka, kacau banget nih.
sudah banyak kok yang melapor ke jamal, kata jamal pihak team akan mencocokan email kita serta wallet yang kita masukan di website tokenpay.
ane juga ada gan, tapi syukurlah kalau pihak jamal akan mencocokannya lagi, dengan begitu jadi tidak ada yang salah dalam pendistribusiannya nanti. karena banyak yang menanti, dan harga sudah mulai membaik
1046  Economy / Economics / Re: You missed all the trains, not just bitcoin on: April 13, 2018, 02:11:16 AM
It's true that when bitcoin is down, alternate cryptocurrencies are also down and that signals us to buy them at a lower price too. But others are thinking the other way as they panic sell their crypto assets while waiting for for the price to go up before they will buy again.
at this moment they seem to miss getting a good price, because price has gone up and bought. so can not maximize their profit. and if when he buy and the price fall again, it will be frustrating
1047  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN IS NOT BUBBLE!! on: April 13, 2018, 02:05:42 AM
Of course bitcoin is not a bubble because if bitcoin is a bubble then a lot of people will just leave it and they will find another coin that they will think that is not a bubble, a lot of people announced their opinion about bitcoin that it is a bubble when the price hit $10,000 but bitcoin even goes up to $20,000 to prove that it is not a bubble.
right. and in this year many predict that bitcoin will rise more than $ 20k. so for future boundary btc will be even higher again as it penetrated last year's resistant and there is plan soros will enter its fund in cryptos
1048  Economy / Economics / Re: Money laundering tools on: April 13, 2018, 02:00:21 AM
any mention for bitcoin, I feel much ease in many things because of bitcoin. fast transactions, low cost, no need to go outdoors, can be done with lying down, sitting, eating, and much more. too many opinions, too many loopholes, being evil or not, that's a choice, I choose to use it positively.
besides that we know that blockchain uses transparency system so everyone can see our transaction. for that there is no loophole for money laundering authorized to move
1049  Economy / Economics / Re: How much money do you have left from your job? on: April 12, 2018, 03:21:11 AM
I have about $300 per month and in my country it is not bad actually to have, lol. So in crypto world there is a big perspectives especialy scince our government still did not forbid using crypro
not much different wit me me, i am about $ 300 too per month, but i want to have financial freedom, so i invest in cryptos in hope i can open a new business and not work in the office
1050  Economy / Economics / Re: Will regulating cryptomarkets increase or decrease trading volumes? on: April 12, 2018, 03:10:31 AM
worldwide regulatory bodies are looking to set legal guide rules to regulate crypto markets which will limit ICO.

Do you think that this will increase the size of crypto markets since it will increase trust, or would it decrease the size of crypto since the number of ICO will go down    Huh Huh
i think this is very good because it will be able to increase investor confidence in market. in addition to reduced ico i think will be better because qualified ico will running, so that investors will also feel more secure invest their funds
1051  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you prefer Bitcoin or Ethereum ? on: April 12, 2018, 03:04:53 AM
I was wondering which one was your favorite out of the two cryptocurrencies? I think Ethereum has proved to be more flexible than Bitcoin even though Bitcoin is making the biggest noise
Honestly I want to say that I prefer both.Because,I feel better to buy Btc or Eth than others currencies.In the perspective of two currencies,I choose Bitcoin as my main priority to feel prefer for many reasons like fastest transaction system, secured,price and so on.So,I feel prefer in Bitcoin.
different with me, though i like both but i prefer etherium. because that price is not high yet. besides that current eth decline is bigger than btc, so calculation according to me more benefit eth
1052  Economy / Economics / Re: Why are you saying wait? on: April 11, 2018, 02:22:44 AM
The markets are so bad that now everyone on the market is obliged to be in harm. when does it stop?

Cryptomarket value drop more than 50% from highest. But I am believe that will recover because right now, financial institution like soros funds will start to investing on cryptomarket.
that is could be good news for cypto market.as we know that soros is big investor with good reputation in finance invesment world.so i think we could be bitcoin and cryptocurrency right now before it pumped.
indeed this is good news, with this news then i am sure investors will certainly follow soros step, because they believe in big name soros and do not want to miss moment when the market is pumped
1053  Economy / Economics / Re: Stanford University Business Full-Time Cryptocurrency Course on: April 11, 2018, 02:07:57 AM
This is undirectly tell the universe that cryptocurrency future is more bright. Only how half of countries can accept it. This interesting is not make, their soul really been called.

I want to say with much spirit, happy wake up from the nightmare
at least it gives a signal that cryptocurrency is known to people with the class. to ensure that i think half the world's population should use btc to meet their needs, so circulation of cryptos increases
1054  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin solve the worlds problem? on: April 11, 2018, 02:02:24 AM
Indeed, bitcoin can not solve world's problems in a country, but it can only help the people who engaged in cryptocurrency as part of financial stability of users by doing trading and bounty campaign program. As i think that is only we can define the by cryptocurrency as part of the worlds problem.
it is true, bitcoin will only solve problems of the user's economy, whereas btc users are only a fraction of the total world population. although it can help economy of the country i think is not significant for now
1055  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin as your main income? on: April 11, 2018, 01:57:03 AM
Bitcoin may help you have an extra income but i think it can not become your main income since cryptocurrency has a value that is not stable. And, no one knows when it will rise so it is not that good to depend on bitcoin and to make it your main source of income. But it is always better to trust and use bitcoin as a source of extra income.
I agree, Bitcoin cannot be a main source of income. It is the other source of income. Because bitcoin is not stable. There are times that it is low and sometimes high. It is better that you have a stable job.
i think so. bitcoin is not a major source of income. although bitcoin income are bigger than our real jobs, but they are not the primary source of income but are still included in additional income
1056  Economy / Economics / Re: Trump says U.S. to impose tariffs on steel, aluminum imports on: April 10, 2018, 02:42:34 AM
indeed china and america as cold war in industrial world, import tax tariff so china does not export aluminum steel to america or will increase cost if it keep exporting, even though usd down, but china also gets worse
1057  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: April 10, 2018, 02:33:21 AM
Nope. for me it will take decade or half before bitcoin can replace dollar because not all of the people can have an easy access on bitcoin. The old people cannot go with the flow if the bitcoin is in use for paying bills and other stuff rather than the dollar. And not all country can fastly adopt that kind of system
maybe i think longer than that, because we know many countries that can not accept bitcoin. but i believe in the future they will use it, because business related to developed countries and developed countries are already using btc
1058  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good buying price for bitcoin? on: April 10, 2018, 02:26:12 AM
Is it a good buying price for bitcoin?Might cross-border activity often lead to better demand for bitcoin?So bitcoin will do better in the second half of the year.What do you think?
Yes I guess so. Bitcoin price nowadays is very low and yet this is the best time for investors to buy for more bitcoins and hold it in the wallet and wait for the right time to sell. Bitcoin maybe increase this mid of this year, as I saw its historical movement that time is the time for bitcoin price to increase and I will wait for that time to come.
many predict as such, that btc price will begin to increase by mid-year. if we see is downtrend power has decreased, by trying several times to break at price of $ 6000, so it is currently a good time to buy btc.
1059  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the bank glad to support cryptocurrency trade? on: April 10, 2018, 02:21:37 AM
As we know, not many exchanges will support the international wire transfer, what is the mainly reason in it?

I don't really understand the question of this topic.
actually I don't see banks need to anything in supporting cryptos.
where do crypto users refund their assets ??! Bank..
where do crypto exchanges save their fund ??! Bank..
glad or not, Banks take benefits on crypto.

or do I miss anything ??
if my opinion is not supporting but providing service, because like local exchanger in my country provide fiat money exchange service, and has been approved as company from government. because cryptocurrency is prohibited in my country for transactions
1060  Economy / Economics / Re: short term investment or long term invesetment on: April 09, 2018, 05:53:00 AM
Both have their values, it's really dependent on what you're investing into, there are great long term coins but there are also great short term coins, plus you need to keep a eye out for ICO's.
Yes both have their importance and both need good experience and study, in fact short term investment is a little risky as compare to long term investment, in short term investment we need to take a quick dicision and need to be more active, because a little delay can cause a big lost for you, while in long term investment we only have to wait a little more but is a little safer than short term investment.
with short-term investment we must have good skill in analyzing market, in addition we must also have a good psychological as well, because of high volatility. if i prefer to long term invesment because it is more secure
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