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1061  Economy / Economics / Re: 99% of the people still think that fiat money are better than crypto on: April 09, 2018, 05:47:18 AM
I think, that I will agree with something, what your friend said, bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are not really anonymous, of course we can mix them use different address, different sites, but this all ending when we cashing out them. Of course here one way, if you will find random guy who will agree to buy your coins for cash, but I'm not sure that if it will possible and safe for large amounts, what starting from 100,000+$.
indeed in the end our wallet will be converted to fiat currency, from there we can use to buy daily need, because in my country is prohibited transactions using cryptos. and in the local exchanger is listed our identity data, so it is not purely anonymous
1062  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum vs Bitcoin as goal of investments on: April 09, 2018, 05:38:37 AM
Many people out there donīt believe that Ethereum can be a long term hodling, they simply use it participate in ICOs, sell and buy bitcoin again with the profit. Do you think that may change this year and ethereum can be seen as the choice to hodl?
I personally believe that ETH is also one of the strongest crypto after bitcoin in every aspect like technology,price,development,potential and after few years we will see the price of ETH skyrocketting as people will recognize it and the base for all other coins. Invest in both by diversifying and you will gain more in long run.
between bitcoin and ethereum, i think have good prospect too in the future. bitcoin as another parent coin, while eth has many technological advantages, as evidenced by many ico using eth
1063  Economy / Economics / Re: Why I am quitting ICO's on: April 08, 2018, 04:54:04 AM
Many reason coin/token after ICO down their price when landed on exchanger. Maybe because market down like what happen right now. Maybe it because so many airdrop and many of airdop receiver dump it

With market dropping like now, many coin/token after ICO not have good perform on market. Beside that, sometimes total supply token is too much and when ICO, they give too many discount and people start dump it when already on exchanger

Many factors why token/coin not successfull on market. Bearish trend on market can affecting new coin/token on exchanger. But sometimes, new coin/token with good project rising their price when landed on exchanger. Its depending on us to pick and research good ICO
with a lot of ico i think we should be right in choosing a good ico, actually a lot of good ico, but its also a lot of ico with less potential. the most important i think the best way is to analyze how the ico can market their products
1064  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happened to bitcoins after one died? on: April 08, 2018, 04:44:00 AM
the one who left this world must left complete data for opening the wallet including address and password. when there is wallet which the owner forgotten about its password or address. and *poof* the wallet would be gone. it is still there, but no one could open it.
and this means the wallet can not be used by others, so supply of btc decreases. with decreasing supply then btc price will increase significantly. but preferably bitcoiner provides important data to the heir
1065  Economy / Economics / Re: Will the bitcoin be outdated by another currency? on: April 08, 2018, 04:40:04 AM
No. Bitcoin is the first coins that started cryptocurrency. All the ideas of other coins in cryptocurrency is based on Bitcoin. Base on my observation if Bitcoins goes down in the market, other cryptocurrency coins also go  down. I think Bitcoin will not be outdated.
It is true that the entire market is possible because of bitcoin and not every coin at this stage is based on bitcoin protocol, things have changed a lot from the begging and there are promising coins that focuses more on privacy and with increased scrutiny by the governments i think privacy coins will be used more frequently in the future but bitcoin will be global currency.
true, the use of other coins will be widely used for everyday life, like there is in the field of transportation, data security, and others. but bitcoin remains the parent that overshadowed the other coin.
1066  Economy / Economics / Re: Don't worry, the market will not fall forever. on: April 07, 2018, 04:22:59 AM
I always think positively about bitcoin prices, although at this time the price has decreased significantly I'm sure the price will return to normal and will continue to increase
besides that we also have prepare mentally to hold long term, and if already profit, dont rush to sell, because often we hurry sell after long floating, whereas new price start up
1067  Economy / Economics / Re: Before I Die... on: April 07, 2018, 03:58:10 AM
Before I die ... I want to make sure that all my family members, my wife and children can independently continue living and manage all the assets I have in good and right.
In addition to that, before I die I want to be able to continue to do charity for the less fortunate people around my residence, and I hope that my son and wife will continue the charity after I die.
i want to practice the science that i have for my child and also others who have not been lucky, so i think our practice will not break. besides that i want to invite my parents to the holy land of makkah
1068  Economy / Economics / Re: Why are you saying wait? on: April 07, 2018, 03:52:27 AM
Because right now I'm sure that the solution is just waiting and keep buying. when we already get the low price and the money runs out then we are now just waiting for the price to go up
wait patiently, even better time is used for other activities, because surely we will heart attack when often see the market. feared psychologically disrupted and eventually we will panic sell
1069  Economy / Economics / Re: Where do you spend your money from Bitcoin? on: April 07, 2018, 03:48:39 AM
Today's economy is either rising or falling depending on the consumers and sellers. If you join the Bitcoin, there is a high probability that you will gain something from your money because there are a lot of opportunities here. So my question is, "Where do you usually spend your money that you have gained here in Bitcoin?"
For me I will spend my money from bitcoin buy buying a house and then I have a plan to give to my parents so that they can start their own mini store business soon.
Good idea, i also want to buy a house from work in bitcoin. for the first my target only that, if later i can bought a house, i want to open a business loundry because that prospect is good
1070  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ANN] TokenPay | Koin paling aman di dunia | Penjualan Token 7 Desember on: April 06, 2018, 02:58:08 AM
atau memang sengaja mengulur2 waktu ya gan, dari kemarin sepertinya ada2 saja si jamal. memang sebaiknya diturutin saja apa maunya, tinggal isi form nya dan semoga ini yang terakhir segera token bisa didistribusikan
Gak ada hubungan lagi sama jamal gan, inikan sekarang bountynya ngaret karena memang dari dev tokenpay yg belum membagikan dan untuk market juga belum ada nih.
Baru baca ditelegram kata devnya dia akan segera menginfokan tentang perkembangan untuk pembayaran bounty
berarti masih harus menunggu lagi gan, sudah lama kita menunggu dan sepertinya diundur2 terus. mungkin mereka berfikir dengan harga yang jatuh seperti ini kalau dibagikan sekarang membuat harga lebih terpuruk lagi
wih ane salut dah sekarang project bounty yang di handel kang jamal selalu konsisten dengan pengunduran, entah itu ico nya, bounty nya ataupun pembayaran nya.
ckckck, om bisa saja, bwt emang Mr.jamal tidak kaya dulu, sekarang berubah, sering telat, speedsheet lambat untuyk diupdate dll,, tetapi tokenpay adalah project terakhir ane ikutin di mr.jamal, apa mungkin ini damapak jamal kena kasus dan ditinggalin oleh tim work nya?
yah memang jamal sudah seperti ini sejak dulu gan mangkanya udah gak pernah lagi ikutan proyek dia, spreadsheet jarang update dan tidak memperdulikan pesertany kalau belum menerima bayaran.. dulu aja aku perna pm pm dia berkali kali tapi gak dibalas-balas udah jenuh sekarang kalau mau berhubungan sm manajer 1 ini  Cry
emang bener si gan dia eman jarang banget update spreadsheet makanya banyak bounty hunternya yang seing komplain karna menurut ane sendiri kalo spreadsheetnya ngga update kan jadi bingung dapet stake apa engganya, kalo ngga dapet kan bisa buru-buru PM biar tau apa kesalahannya
tapi anehnya dia mah pegang banyak project gan berarti dia cukup dipercaya dong ama banyak developer
ya mungkin developer memandang dari sisi lain gan, bukan dari leletnya dia. secara logisnya kalau dia handle banyak proyek berarti kinerjanya diakui, tapi bagi kita suka membuat tidak sabar karena waktunya suka diundur2
1071  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Reality of Ripple - centralized or decentralized? on: April 06, 2018, 02:50:50 AM
Ripple is very centralized and that's part of its infrastructure. It is a crypto made to service banks so it doesn't really make much sense to call it decentralized. It was made for quick settlement and doesn't add much value in the sense of a trustess system. In fact, I think that ripple needs even more trust than using a simple bank because it requires additional trust to the foundation behind it for its integrity...

They have involved in wide range of bank and it subsidiaries mate. For investors it may give the short term profit. With in some years if ripple damaged CEO may comes sell all the coins he has holded now. As news leaked about XRP it has been hodled by CEO which is 80 percent and more.

I want ripple should go away from the top 100 list of crypto currency. Actually I feel they are threat for other crypto currencies next to ethereum mate.

I very much want them to go away. But this is the attempt of centralized authorities to adopt the changes in this world. The future is now and if decentralization of money is fully realized, banks will become obsolete so they try to make themselves relevant in cryptocurrency. However, as I see it, Ripple is like an infection to the Decentralization System.
only ripples that move like that, like enemies in blankets, if ripple comes in and in the future not with decentralized system, then i think ripple will be shunned by cryptocurrency investors, so that price will go down
1072  Economy / Economics / Re: Will future paper money disappear? on: April 06, 2018, 02:45:10 AM
Very likely, especially now that direct transactions using paper money continues to decrease, paper money becomes a crime factor that is robbery, if there is no paper money of course can reduce the robbery in banks or to people so I am sure that no more than 100 years paper money will disappear.
indeed possibility is certain, but it takes a long time, because as we know cryptocurrency is still a lot of hackers, so the government is still considering a lot of things
1073  Economy / Economics / Re: China tells people to buy gold & silver on: April 05, 2018, 02:14:01 AM
i guess there is nothing strange with china, because we know that gold is an investment tool has been a long time ago. so the government may suggest to invest safely
1074  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin will have a price of $50000 on: April 05, 2018, 02:01:28 AM
Yes it is possible if people will focus on investing in bitcoins and the demand will keep on increasing. There are people who are already holding a huge amount of bitcoins today and they are just cashing out if there's an emergency so keep on holding your coin in order to earn a huge amount of profit in the future.
if to reach $ 50000 in this year i think not yet, but for next year i sure can. my target at this time btc can penetrate last year highest price
1075  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you start from zero cash and make a living with the opportunities in crypto? on: April 04, 2018, 03:07:21 AM
Is not my case, I do have some savings so I didnīt start from absolutely nothing, but I had not much to start with. I am having a decent go at cryptos and I think it may be possible to make a living... What could be a good strategy?


It is quite possible to start earning with absolutely having nothing. All you need do is start the bounty campaigns on this bitcointalk platform. You need your computer/phone, internet accessibility plus data. And in all, you need perseverance as the markets isnt as encouraging as before.
even if you take the current situation and the forum bitcointalk, then a simple participation in Bounty companies will already give you a decent income, while this earnings can be the starting capital for investment or trade. If you develop this topic, then no real work is needed .
i think real work is equally necessary, but there is no bigger income than work in cryptocurrency, but for me, its for life balancing. because if in cryptocurrency, we participate in bounty campaign has many income
1076  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we push the actual use of Bitcoin ? on: April 04, 2018, 02:43:01 AM
I think we need time to fully accept the bitcoin as payment in every countries. We need to spread the bitcoin knowledge to the people to convince them to used also bitcoin in their transactions. But before to spread it to other we need to discover more about bitcoin before we can teach someone about it, because this is will be our key to convince them to use it.
if you convince humanity to use bitcoins, then you need to raise its popularity. But along with this, a very important aspect of this issue is raising the levels of public exposure to the crypto currency. If a person does not have enough knowledge, the way to using bitcoin is closed to him.
indeed its a matter of trust, and trust comes from marketing as well as evidence. After that people will judge for themselves advantage of using bitcoin. and in fact to quickly realized there, should be support from the government
1077  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has defeated gold on: April 04, 2018, 02:37:32 AM
price of BTC is more high then gold. gold have very high value in market as there are huge number of customers of gold through out the whole world while bitcoin have very less in number as compare to gold.
current price of btc below gold, due to its high fluctuations. indeed everyone believe in gold for investment. but when everyone believes in bitcoin, i think btc price is far above gold
1078  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔥🔥[ANN] KORA - Infrastruktur untuk sistem keuangan inklusif [BOUNTYHIVE]🔥🔥 on: April 03, 2018, 06:59:37 AM
iyaah jadi semakin lebih berkualitas dan hasilnya pun semakin lebih meningkat,
peminat dibountyhive sekarang semakin membludak banyak , dan semoga hasil nya ya lumayan dari kora
apa memang seperti itu gan? ane pernah denger kabar kalau di bountyhive itu tidak ada spreadsheet nya? apakah kabar tersebut benar adanya? atau di dalam bountyhive tampilan spreadsheet nya berbeda, jadi yang cuma lihat sekilas tidak memahaminya?
memang tidak ada tampilan spreadsheetnya gan, tetapi biasa peserta bounty dibatasi, sehingga saya rasa hal tersebut yang membuat bounty hunter semakin percaya, ditambah lagi dengan adanya proyek2 yang berkualitas, seperti kora ini.
1079  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN BACK AS THAT WAS on: April 03, 2018, 06:47:55 AM
I think that's possible, because more and more people need bitcoin, bitcoin price will rise high. it can happen if investor confidence increases, in addition with positive news about btc
1080  Other / Archival / Re: Help a Beginner to understand... on: April 03, 2018, 01:36:39 AM
Hello guys...

I have diversified my portfolio to about 25 different cryptos which were worth about 7000-8000$ just before the bitcoin crash came and I am wondering whats the exact reason behind this, when or will it recover (and so the alt coins I hold, don't have any bitcoin).

Why do almost all alt coins crash because of the bitcoin crash or correction?

My portfolio is worth only 4000$ atm.

Sorry for being an beginning idiot and asking this and thanks for everybody who can explain it to me
  Today, the market has fallen a bit, it's obvious, but you do not need to panic, but of course it's very unpleasant and apparently your capital has decreased noticeably, but it's worth waiting a little and everything will return again. I personally think that this was influenced by the fall of bitcoin. The main thing you do not panic, prices are often not stable, because there is a relationship with risk. I wish you good luck and achieve good results Smiley
indeed we do not have to panic with the price of coin that is currently experiencing such a low decline, and we must believe that bitcoin will come back again as before. because it is not possible also if bitcoin will decrease very significantly.
we must believe if bitcoin will always exist, as evidenced by many of ico projects. it means there are still many companies that develop cryptocurrency. then it is impossible if btc price will go down steadily
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