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1261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: August 02, 2017, 09:57:56 AM
The more you lose in the game big amount, is the more you become greed unto it, due to you want to win big. That's why, greediness is the number one source why we lose bigger than the balance to our bankroll. So it is much better for real to quit or stop gambling anymore mate before you become totally wreck.

I think that is the total opposite of myself. I am the type of people who surrenders easily, the time that I know that I can't be successful with that type of work or activity, I stop. I think we must have that type of thinking even in a little percentage, even a little part of our brain especially when we are talking about gambling which is only about risk and luck

Most of the whales and money minded people always don't consider bitcoin like a water and pour it in gambling site. Some people who are all developing in the business or family life will definitely understand it. Your words may knock anybodies mind and they stop gambling.
yes you must have something to care when you get back home after you play several games . otherwise your dreaming to become rich through gambling will become just a dream. be more patient and thankfull no matter how much you have earned .

or simply looking for a professional gamble addiction healing , pay for it and you will have better chance to completely quit gamble.
yes i agree there is a lot of things that we have to be thankful.example of that is the air that we breath.my life in gambling is not really becoming an easy life its just getting harder and harder its day in gambling.everything is drawn to nothing .and now i realize to leave gambling alone
1262  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: July 31, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
I know this may seem like something that is easy to find with google but I am having a difficult time finding a good forum or website where trading strategy is the primary goal and I can improve my skills. I used to play online poker and stopped after Black Friday.

My question is are there any websites that are like the 2+2 forums, card runners or deucescracked etc.? Where have you gone to learn about daytrading cryptocurrencies?

I got into this a little over a month and half ago and while I am up because of just a lucky decision or two I am quickly going to lose my ass if I don't figure out some sort of effective strategy.

In short, I suck at this and really need some help.

Thanks

Edit: Before someone replies I just want to throw this out there, I'm pretty sure this is a good website to learn about coins and what not and I come here everyday but I have a very hard time sorting through the bullshit. Obviously this place might be a great place but I might be in the wrong sections.

There are a lots of ways to learn how to trade there are videos on youtube.com and other sites, you just need to surf in the internet. But I think that the best way to learn is through one on one tutorial or to your friends who knows how to trade. They can teach you step by step and you can always ask questions immediately if you do not understand that well. And he or she can give you some tips and tricks or even shortcuts and strategies on how to trade and what to trade. Better find somone who you trust.
yes  you are right.i think everyone  needs to fucos on it and love what you are doing.have interest on it and learn slowly from the friends that have done trading and know what is really the trading is.
1263  Economy / Economics / Re: Is trading just educated guessing? on: July 31, 2017, 03:22:00 AM
I don't believe trading crypto currency coins is a guest education or work because, when you gamble or guest in trading crypto currency you will have high tendency of loosing. A good trader will study the coins very well before buying. In trading, you will need good knowledge of technical analysis and fundamental analysis before you succeed and not to guest of what will happen in the market.

I strong agree with that, with or without insider info, everyone knows that to be able to succeed in trading we must be a good trader. We need to study first and learn the market before we do trading, I think it should be necessary because someone can’t do trading even without the basic knowledge about it. Most of the people who fails in trading are those who are new in trading or those who would just try it out.

As for me, I have also experienced failing in trading and when that happened, I asked someone who knows a lot about it to know if what did I do wrong.

yes i agree it too because .everybody needs to be more educated on trading it is not about guessing it is all about the experience.you will need to have more experience on it .
1264  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: July 30, 2017, 12:19:18 PM
I can see that people nowadays are busy searching on money and everything depends on money. People nowadays never go to church just because they would rather earn money rather than praise God. Others do not pay respect to elders  because they earn money for them or richer than them. Well for you, is money above all things ?
Money is the basic need to be able to live. How can you buy food  or everything you in your daily without money.
Money can dictate a person whether he will do crime  or not. Money is the main thing to do evil works.

The problem nowadays is that some people 'praises' (their) money which is bad.


Basically we need money in order to sustain our lives. Every thing now has a price so you can't blame people why they depend or want to earn money. But earning money is not an excuse to at least thank God for everything.
yes i agree it is the money who can really change a person ,who can make a person to do bad things.everybody wants to have more money people didnt  satisfied that is why they want to have more money.money is the biggest instrument that making people deeply drag in to sin.it is verry worst.
1265  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: July 30, 2017, 03:34:29 AM
i dont think bitcoin will lose its value, if so then it'll take years before that happens but what im sure is that it will temporarily drop in price especially when august 1 is just around the corner. Bitcoin is unstable and its only natural for that to happen. So i prepared myself for the worse , i converted all my bitcoins into my country's currency. Its too risky to wait for august 1 because there arent any signs if it will decrease or increase in price.
yes i agree on that .i think if its value is lost maybe it is loos already by the past 8 years but until now it has a big value and   it is continue increasing .that was the one of the point.that i dont believe that bitcoin loos its value.
1266  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin investing on: July 29, 2017, 08:55:23 PM
I don't know what is the Bitcoin Mutual Fund?  Smiley  I only know that Buy - hold - sell is the great strategy to make a profit on Bitcoin. Besides this, You can invest BTC on ICO and You can Trade on some great exchanger. If you invest on good ICO and Regular trade on some great exchanger so definitely you will make a huge profit on it.
ves i stronly agree on it if we use bitcoin for investing we can make a lot of fropit on it same a trading because there are a love of gamblers online using a bitcoin and it will make the possibility that bitcoin has continue rising   and continue to be verry valuable.
1267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: July 29, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
How can you gamble without money. Money may not be everything but you need it to gamble. The main motivation behind gambling is excitement of winning. That thrives people into gambling more and more, again and again. It is just a happiness of 5 minutes but lots of people die for it.

You can gamble without using any of your money but you must bet a valuable possession of the same value that the other person bet. The truth is we don't need to gamble our money, we can use to bet our things that we don't need, but we also need to think what may happen if you do such thing.
i will never like to play gambling with someone else money because i cannot take the responsibility of another money but will always like to play with such money that i can bare to lose and that cannot effect my financial life.

I am not saying that you must bet using other people's money. I am saying betting some of your valuable things. For example, you got pissed by your play mates in your childhood and bet one your gamboy game tapes. In that case, you gamble in your childhood even without betting your money.

We are talking here about gambling here in the crypto world and not on the real world gambling. Gambling site casino won't accept this material thing as a bet, we are using bitcoin here that is why only bitcoin would be accepted by the gambling site and no other than bitcoin. Maybe if you are going to sell one of your friend's PS4 then buy some bitcoin so that you could use it on gambling, then I guess it is more realistic.
yes i agree.that is why money in gambling is not everything because we can use bit coiin for that.and in gambling money is not everything because money can be wasted in gambling.
1268  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: July 29, 2017, 03:27:10 AM
Gold is stable for thousand years so you could hold your fortune in gold without worrying gold becomes worthless. holding bitcoin is more profitable but it's risky. Imo, holding gold is better
i dont agree on you the price  of the gold is rising.but it is consuming  a lot of time.t hat was only thier different .because in bitcoin in only 1 year or 3 to 5 years from now it can be more valuable.in a short period of time gold cannot currently increase thier price but in bitcoin it is un predictable  maybe tommorow or in the next week or these comming 2 to 3 years from now it can be verry high in terms of price..
1269  Economy / Goods / Re: Prevention is better than a cure. Please escrow. on: July 28, 2017, 09:05:50 AM
Prevention is better than cure. When it comes to our health, prevention is much better than cure. Several diseases and injuries are preventable, and can be managed much better if identified earlier on. It is common for people only to go to the doctor when they are feeling unwell.and if their in critical condition.that was a verry sad reality of the human beings..
1270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: July 28, 2017, 08:42:21 AM
I considered trading as gambling because you are risking money but the different you are doing some research before doing trading. If you lose in trading maybe you will lose a little portion of your money if you hold it before you sell it again in high price.
that was rigth it is considered as gambling in speaking of risking your money.but speaking of profit it has an assurance that if you dont get profit on it.there will be a small return on your money .unlike   in gambling if you loss everything will be lost.that was really a reality in gambling.i believe that through trading we can gain profit.and in gambling i dont know if we can gain .because gamble is a game of luck  and prediction nobody know who will be goin to loss and who will be going to win.
1271  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: July 28, 2017, 06:32:38 AM
I just always wonder if those billionaires still invest in btc. Do they even know btc exist?

Maybe others know bitcoin but they didn't try it because they are a rich people already. I think they focus only in their career on how they earn and become a billionaire.

or maybe they already invest before us but they don't give any info or any statement to the public because i think they want to invest in bitcoin with silent and only they will know. its not strange if billionaires invest their money in btc because they only want their funds more bigger so they can donate their money in many foundations.
yes i agree because some of the other rich  people didnt want a staring investment.so they invest in silent way.but some other rich people that have a big business .from the start or from their generation.i think they will never have  to waste thier time on it.even shall we say they know about bitcoin but i think they cant work for it because they were too busy.
1272  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm panicking, tell me it will be OK... on: July 28, 2017, 06:09:52 AM
Panic selling is just for those people who doesn't believe on what would be the outcome of bitcoins future but for those knowledgable people around im so sure that they grab the oppurtunity of last weeks downfall. And look what happen now? they earn with that and their earning is not just cents but instead thousands of dollars, so if you still have a doubt with bitcoins then you should learn its movement so that you can figure it out on how bitcoins grow healthier.
in fact those people who do not have any experience in trading and those who do not know about the nature of bitcoin they are really panicking very soon. i think they should stay strong and wait for some time as the price of bitcoin will start increasing very soon.
Yes it is good idea for those who invest much of their money on bitcoins and they think that the price of bitcoins shall decrease day by day, this never going to happen, because the price of bitcoin start increasing very soon, This crash happen due to some irrelevant issue which going to be fix soon.  
Yes if you want to save your money then bitcoin is better option than bank as you said invest money into bitcoin instead starting some business it is quite good idea there are no effort to deal business the little effort which is called easiest effort ever just go to website and withdraw your bitcoin into cash. So that's all from me what I have defined.

It's a good motivation of saving money since it's been so rewarding in the future if you seen you asset grow as a result of your patience of not spending it. So in trading decisions like with the investments you had with crypto currency I guess it was just normal to panic at this moment now and it's not that ok if you will panic sell your holdings. You can withdraw it all anf exchange to cash but how will you know in the future if bitcoin will be reaching to top regrets will come your way; frustrations will be the effect.
yes i agree just calm down set asside and think positive thoughts.so what! if the price is getting down or up it cannot kill you.it will only take another short period of time to rebuild up and rise.and after a couple of days,week or even in a year,it will rise again.that was it.it is only drawn repeatedly on that situation.we  dont have to be ignorance to it.
1273  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: July 28, 2017, 02:22:07 AM
I will never get dissapointed in trading, even there is a fluctuation happened it is still just a normal things for us a traders
to face that kind of circumstances. even it is worst in the sight of others I will take it as a good opportunity for me.
Oh, that’s really sad! Don’t lose heart or get disappointed. Take it as a bad experience and try to learn from this decision. Next time don’t take risk of selling off bitcoins until and unless they don’t reach your expected value. Crypto world is full of fluctuations. To earn a good profit with bitcoins, one needs to be really patient. Never ever sell again just by getting frustrated. This is going to add up to your experience.
Stay relaxed.

We will never gonna succeed if we can easily be disappointed, there are times in our lives where the outcome does not favor us
but we need to consider it as a trial and improve our trading strategy to profit next time.
Timing is everything in trading and eventually you will learn that once you continue your journey.
Yes, whosoever desires to do something extraordinary, he has to face extraordinary troubles as well. Many obstacles are laid down in his path by nature to test his abilities in order to bless him with what he aspires for. Same is the case with trading. Those who are strong enough to face all the downs ultimately end up with huge profits.
yes sometimes somehow trading is verry dis apointing but if it being succeed it can really double your income.but how ever to make it possible need to take aa big rest on it.
1274  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: July 27, 2017, 06:08:10 PM
- I think if you want to have a steady income, you just need to work for a company or government, you will have a steady income every month. Steady income with making money online or investing, business,... is impossible
- Because income from investment, trading or investing depends on the experience, skills and our luck. For example, you own a store, you can not be sure that your profit per day is the same because it depends on the number of buyers per day

I agree with that. To have a steady income is to have a regular job where you can depend that steady income to come from. I know that with bitcoin, we can earn more than the given salary on a regular job, but we all know how unstable crypto currencies are that there will be times when its price would go down so fast. I have experience how the volatility of the coins can be so much stressful. I have been holding my coins or tokens that I got from participating in some altcoins and just when I was about to convert it into fiat, the price suddenly went down fast. I was really frustrated that time because I really need some money.

In the future, I plan to apply for a stable job and still continue earning bitcoin. By that, I will have a regular income and an extra income.

yes i agree if we need a steady income we need to have a steady job such as working to the company mall etc.it is really have  a big differrence in working regular ours in company than making money online.because in working online such us doing a business it is no asurance  that we will be having an income every now and then because it depends  on the luck .unlike to the company you will be paid in every hours of duty.
1275  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: July 27, 2017, 05:08:49 PM
today is a great day to sell your bitcoins because there will be a big dump next month. as you can see the reason why bitcoin is rising today because the panic selling is already stop but dont you know that there will be a panic selling after august 1st because it will be hard for them to outcome the changes at the economy. and one morething buy low sell high. it will not take amonth for the price of bitcoin to dump but you will gain a lot of profit in trading.

A big dump is sure to still happen and i agree, now is the right time to sell because the price is still holding high value. Before a big dump happens better you sell it now and you will get a nice profit if it sell now.

I don't foresee any dump next month. And today is just not the day to trade. For holders, it's time to keep holding, for waiters to buy, it's time to wait only. Not right time to take action, it's very complicated now.
yes you are right  it is the time of holding it is about waiting. We just wait untill the end of jully.and see what is really had happen to the price of btc.if it is down let us buy.and if it is increasing then let us sell.
1276  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: July 27, 2017, 12:27:22 PM
as i am a newbie.. i know nothing about trading... what should i do to start trading and multiply my btc.. guys please help me
Before you trade, you must have enough knowledge to the cryptocurrency world. You must have a good information about all the tokens that will you trade. If you want to trade with a very small amount of money for sure your profit will be also small.
that is right good knowledge and experience are the two important part of our life and specially if ware making money form bitcoin where you really need too much experience and knowledge.
yes i also agree on it.before you are goin to do trading learn it first dont push your self through things witbout learning it can bring a verry worst result.if ever you do so.
1277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Altcoins are all down, so how do traders make their earnings? on: July 27, 2017, 10:25:57 AM
When altcoins are down, its the best way to buy altcoins and when it pump and reaches to the higher or highest level it's the right time to sell your altcoins,  that is how traders make more earnings.
yes i agree it is a simple quite amazing way to have more earning maybe .everybody really didnt want to hold because they are panic but.it is not really the time   to panic .if its price is down i think it is a great opportunity to have more earnings in the next day week a month or even in a year.
1278  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: July 27, 2017, 10:04:57 AM
Hey guys.

How can I increase my bitcoin money? I am a bit curious to those people who can easily make money “btc” grow fast. How do they it correctly?
Can I ask a bit of advice on how to manage it like what you do?
Of course I know many people here want to know too.

Maybe it is good to share a little of it. It would be great if we grow together.



1.investing
2.tradings
3.gambling
4. Service(no need investing but needed skills to earn)
5. Mining hardwares


Those mentioned above are the choices for you to earn btc although some of them are so risky but yet its totally the best way to earn for now, and fornthe choices i gave i like the services since i can earn some huge btc from service type of works and i also earn some profits from ICO, but i am to choosy and selects only those potential and putting on them some money when bunoses are still yet existed.
You could try all of the above mentioned methods to increase your bitcoins.But just avoid gambling as it may even make you to lose all of of your investment.Trading is the best and legit source of earning bitcoins.But its also risky.It should be first started with a small amount until good experience is gained.
Yeah I agree to you. Gambling is very risky and you can't even sure if you will win there or lose. Do not enter the world of gambling because there is a possibility that you will become addict to the gambling. I prefer to yoy to just go to the trading world.
Trading can indeed add to the bitcoin you have in large quantities, especially if you get good information for the coin. Well, signature campaign list can also make you increase bitcoin, but you have to be diligent for it
yes it is the signature campaign and the trading.and also investing through bitcoin can also increase your bitcoin.but you really need to work for it bitcoin can not increase itself without your fucos on the said signature campaign trading etc.
1279  Economy / Economics / Re: New rich people thanks to BTC on: July 27, 2017, 03:16:47 AM
I have been making an analysis about how people is getting real rich thanks to the increse of BTC and it is amazing to think that people are getting real rich, lets hope and this will continue so the people that holds very little BTC also gets rich.

This is the analisis I made:

On February 1st 2015 you will need 4,219 BTC to have 1 million USD, now that is worth: 10,125,600 usd

On Febraury 1st 2016 you will need 2,681 BTC to have 1 million USD, now that is worth: 6,434,400 usd

On February 1st 2017 you will need 992 BTC to have 1 million USD, now that is worth: 2,380,800 usd

Today you need 404 BTC to have 1 million USD ( the person who has now 404 BTC it is millionaire, and in Feb 2015 just had with the same 404 BTC 95,757 USD

That is amazing.

I wonder what are the new rich people doing right know? have they realised that they are rich yet.



people is getting rich not because of bitcoin's price, they get rich because they put all there time and effort just to earn big money in bitcoin. people will do anything just to get rich that's why there are many people who are rich because of bitcoin, because they have a big potential to be a successful man.
Yeah I agree to you. To become a millionaire you need to work hard. I know people who wants to be a millionaire with the bitcoins are really working hard to achieve their dreams and ambitions.
But the fact is ,when you born a millionaire your always be a millionaire, when you born poor your always be a poor even worst. Even if you have a dream and dedication ,but without money you cant make it.
yes i agree but you are the one who can end poverty .i believe that poverty is not the hendrance to sucess it is very difficult but you can end it all by hour self.if you were born as poor it is not your sin.but if you were die as poor.t is now your sin because you dont work hard to be rich.
1280  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: July 26, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
Perhaps the title of the topic has said it all. Trade is precisely the work hard to predict. It is quite risky. But if you have experience it will be easier. In my opinion, both of the things you say are essential in business. It will help you make wise decisions and make the right decision.
yes i agree on that.actually  it is really to preddict.specially the price .we really dont know when it be going to fall or to rise.but the assurance of being a trader is there it is more profitable because it is you who trade in different  situation can only decide when is the rigth time to sell to trade and i think everybody dindnt want to loss everything.
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