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1501  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the best places with faucet to play with? on: May 19, 2015, 02:48:48 AM
dadice is the best faucet site, 250-12500 sat faucet, you don't need to wager a lot of btc, it only counts winning times and chat, the higher level, the higher faucet.

rollin has a 750-20000 sat faucet, but you need to wager a lot to get 20000 sat faucet, so does primedice.

There are other faucet sites, but only a little money, playing there wastes time.
1502  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for a site with the lowest house edge for Blackjack on: May 18, 2015, 05:16:42 PM
House edge in Blackjack ? Seems you are mistaken about the game. The house edge in Blackjack is fixed in all sites. And changes, based on the number of decks which the dealer deals from. So basically all sites will have same edge.

You are contradicting yourself as you can see from the bolded part you claim that the house edge is fixed for all sites but the second bolded part, you claimed that it changes based on the number of deck


If you take a look at my post just above you , you can use those calculator on those sites to check that each sites have the rules that will determine the house edge for the BlackJack

Several rules that may changes the house edge of the BlackJack game :

#1 Number of deck used (obviously)

#2 Soft17 rules (dealer stands on 17 or more)

#3 Double after split

#4 Number of splits available

#5 Ability to split aces

#6 Ability to hit ace after split

#7 BlackJack pays 3:2 or 6:5 rules

Each site has a different rules , therefore the house edge for Blackjack games are different as well


yes, arallmuus is correct, different bj rules have different house edge,generally the more decks, the higher house edge, one deck bj house edge is minus, so the expect return for casino is minus, so we can rare see 1 deck bj nowadays, instead 1 deck, casinos offer 8 decks of cards, the house edge may be as high as 0.6%, but it's still very low compare to other games, if we have decent strategy, and good luck, we can beat the house.
1503  Economy / Gambling / Re: @Gambling Survey for new currency/service! on: May 18, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
Anyone know when the survey closes? Or has anyone been paid for taking part? It's been 10 days now, and op has been gone for a week already.

I think nobody knows and nobody has been paid so far, I was one of the early survey-taker and already sent PM to OP a week ago. He said that he will send the reward within few days, but nothing come to my wallet.
And I doubt he will pay for this, $5 just for simple survey is too good to be true.

I had also taken the survey early and had to pm the address and confirm one field of the survey. And you are right. $5 for this was too good to be true. Especially when a thread asking the same questions would get more answers. And probably more detailed explanations than what was asked.

Yes I was going to take this survey also but since this is from a newbie account I knew it was going to probably be a huge waste of time.

Next time will only do it if there is escrow. Feel bad for everybody who wasted their time.

so many people gonna take this survey and didn't get paid?

i don't get paid either, OP PMed me to take his survey and I did, he said he will pay me the tip, but I get nothing, and I don't think anyone get paid, this OP is a liar.  Angry  Luckily I didn't take his skype interview, must be wasting time.
1504  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can anyone make a sportsbook with 1% house edge? on: May 18, 2015, 01:26:20 PM
Why do this when people pay around 5% on most games and way way more on future bets and stuff like that?

People can earn money in long term although house edge is high, sport betting is predictable because strong teams have more probabilities to win.

Dice, blackjack, bacarat is random and not predictable, so the risk is high, although the house edge is much lower than sport betting.

And history stats can be used in analysis, it helps to win the money.
1505  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can anyone make a sportsbook with 1% house edge? on: May 18, 2015, 01:13:46 PM
Sportbook and house edge? what do you mean?
house edge is in gambling for the probability that the house reserves to earn money

It means the difference between total odds and 4, for example, houston rockets(2.21) vs clipper(1.74), the total odds is 3.95, the house edge: 4-3.95 =0.05, casino has 5% house edge for 2 teams, so 1 team has 2.5% house edge.

http://www.gambling666.com/online-sportsbooks/sports-betting-odds-and-probabilities

That link above is good,

"In a friendly bet with a peer, you might wager $10 in order to win $10. In this case, there is no house edge whatsoever, because there is no “house” involved. However, in the case of an online sportsbook, you will encounter a house edge. For example, you might need to wager $11 in order to win $10. This gives the sportsbook a house edge of approximately 4.54%. This is an example of a straight bet, in which you simply wager on the ultimate outcome of a game."
1506  Economy / Gambling / Re: JETWIN.ps ✔#1 Bitcoin Sportsbook ✔The best LIVE CASINO ✔Instant Withdrawals on: May 18, 2015, 02:19:42 AM
This sportbook is indeed NO.1 in btc community, yesterday I bet on rockets, betcoin offered the odds: Rockets: 2.17, clippers 1.72, directbet: rockets: 2.1, clippers:1.7(lower) jetwin: rockets: 2.21, clippers: 1.74, and I won the money, tried to withdraw, it's instant withdrawal!!! And deposit is also fast, I think it is 1 confirmation deposit.

Jetwin is the best one, started business from 2013, it is a pity I just know this site for a few weeks, after I got a bonus from admin  Cheesy
1507  Economy / Gambling / Re: houston Rockets vs Los Angeles Clippers Game 7 on: May 18, 2015, 02:07:16 AM
This thread reminds me of the MayPac thread where the Pac supporters were all like "Pac will win because I like him!" and the May supporters used logic and reasons. 

The Clippers are the better team and are going to be playing their starters pretty much the entire game after what happened yesterday. 

LOL, don't forget Maywaether won the fight because of the blind judges, boxing is a game relies on ONLY 3 JUGES, easily manipulate the result, just like Mayweather VS Oscar Dela Hoya, judges helped mayweather when he was really lost.

But your logic is wrong because rockets won!!  And who bet Rockets won the money too.  Cheesy
1508  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiBet Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair - Bonuses - Play Roulette, Blackjack on: May 17, 2015, 05:59:44 PM
I won 18BTC from SatoshiBet bonuses in total completed rollover for all bonus codes except one  Grin

can you prove what you say? not mention to doubt, but it seems almost impossible to be true.
but if is true, congrats for your great winnings..you must be the luckiest player in satoshibet.


i think he is saying about his total winning from promo bonus codes not that 18btc won from current bonus code, this is really great achievement and profit, congratz on that awesome statics.

Yes I know it, but it still unbelievable for me..even he got hundred bonus codes.
AFAIK there is bonuses history in the player's account. That's what I asked..how many bonuses he got and how much profit he made from each bonus.


+1, unbelievable to me either, and if he is a gamble guru, he can keep quiet, it is very possible that addi will stop no deposit bonus promotion any more if he finds his post, lol, addi must be amazing too.  Cheesy

No wonder the no deposit bonus is less than before, 10mbtc now, only 10% of the previous 100mbtc bonus, and rollover is increased to 60X, it was 40X, because addi lost lots of btc from the promotion, especially for this gamble whale. Jesus Christ!
1509  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiBet Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair - Bonuses - Play Roulette, Blackjack on: May 17, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
I won 18BTC from SatoshiBet bonuses in total completed rollover for all bonus codes except one  Grin


Wow, how can you achieve that? Amazing money, no wonder Addi increased the rollover amount to 60X and decreased the bonus money.  Shocked

Any strategies to share?

We are all here wanna listen and follow your ways, amazing...
1510  Economy / Gambling / Re: What are your experiences with gambling? on: May 17, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
I was a good math student, so I focus on low house edge games.

My main games,

1.with my own money, I only play blackjack with 0.4% house edge(won 1btc), dice with 1% house edge(won 10btc), sport betting(I lost money on my favorite teams Angry).

2. with no deposit bonus, play blackjack, slots, roulette.

And I give you a good gift: http://wizardofodds.com/   

This it is the best gamble guide site, it includes many good strategies of all kind of games, especially for skill based games, like blackjack and video poker. You can find poker, blackjack, video poker calculators and best analysis there   
1511  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiBet Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair - Bonuses - Play Roulette, Blackjack on: May 17, 2015, 02:33:43 PM
Actually slots have lowerhigher house edge than Blackjack, every time I got bonus, I prefer playing BJ, Addi wrote the house edge about his slots on his blogs, it is about 93% expect return to players, it means 7% house edge in SB slots.

I have played in SB for a long time, every time I only played slots, I was busted with a 10%-40% of 40X rollover, playing slots to complete a 60X rollover no deposit bonus becomes an 0.1% possible mission,  Cheesy  Unless we get jackpot here, or I don't think anyone can complete 60X so high rollover only playing slots.

It should be higher, I think it is a typo from you there, 7% house edge for slots is high enough.

Anyway it will be hard to play with the slots unless you have quite high balance and only bet a small amount of it to get the wagered amount. You will need higher balance by playing at another games before you can challenge the slots.

Since the roulette contributes on the wagering process as well, has anyone tried betting max bet on red and blue? It should help to complete the wagering requirement unless you are unlucky to hit the zero



Yes, my typo, thanks my friend! I have post in other threads about my views, I persuade players to play low house edge games, because they may win money from the casinos, but when they play slots in casinos, they can hardly complete high rollover, unless they have a big bankroll to hit a jackpot.

About roulette betting on red and blue, I tried it 3 times, and were all failed, lol, European roulette has 2.7% house edge, so we can easily hit 0 if play in this way for 100 times.
1512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Innovative Poker idea/opportunity on: May 17, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
Suddenly I remember when I watched High stakes poker season 4, he bought insurance for many times, so I think it is not only the choice of Chinese casinos and poker houses, US casinos also offer it too, and casinos can earn a lot from insurance fees, your view is very great, I like it, if any poiker houses make profits from your idea, they should share some profits to you.  Grin

And I agree with you, internet connestion is shitty slow in China, especially surfing English sites, when I lived in China, I couldn't access FB, TWITTER, and so forth, and access gamble sites are toooooo slow in China. Angry
1513  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiBet Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair - Bonuses - Play Roulette, Blackjack on: May 17, 2015, 02:21:54 PM


waiting my withdraw .all still pending

Be patient, their hot wallet is empty now, so you just wait for a moment, you will get paid soon.

Btw, how did you make this great performance, unlocked a 60X rollover bonus and got 470mbtc in the end,  Shocked

What games did you play, is that possible to share the strategies with us?

I am afraid SB bonus will be 100X rollover because of the bonus whales like you. Sad

I think the most possible way to reach the 60x rollover is play on slots as what I did in other casinos.
Slots qualify 100% to the wager bonus, and if you are lucky enough you will reach the 60x rollover within hours maybe less.
Lets say you get many free spins or jackpots. That will make you so easy to reach the rollover.
But of course, all is about luck..there is no strategies in slots.


Actually slots have higher house edge than Blackjack, every time I got bonus, I prefer playing BJ, Addi wrote the house edge about his slots on his blogs, it is about 93% expect return to players, it means 7% house edge in SB slots.

I have played in SB for a long time, every time I only played slots, I was busted with a 10%-40% of 40X rollover, playing slots to complete a 60X rollover no deposit bonus becomes an 0.1% possible mission,  Cheesy  Unless we get jackpot here, or I don't think anyone can complete 60X so high rollover only playing slots.
1514  Economy / Gambling / Re: No House Edge? on: May 17, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
Wow, cool, it is a clear graph, and we can see the details about your site, 1.13% real profit of bet is good, better than 1% expect return, so in long term, you can make more money than expect, unless some whales eat your house. Cheesy

You can make more than expected, but you can also make less than expected. Just-Dice used to accept Bitcoin, and ran for a year doing so. Over that period it kept something like 0.35% of the amount wagered. The house edge was 1%, so it only did about a third as well as expected. For a while the profit was even negative. So again, that's more evidence that the house edge really only has its effect in the very long term and casual casino players probably won't even notice it if they don't play much. Of course if they're playing games with a huge house edge (national lotteries are a good example, typically paying out 50% of so to players) then they'll notice the effect of the house edge much sooner.

How do you think primedice? I think their profits are higher than 1%, maybe 2%, because many people have complaint they won small bets but lost big bets on PD, so I guess PD may have a great return, at least is higher than 1%.
1515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin v. Bitcoin on: May 17, 2015, 02:02:26 PM
For speculation reason, I think when next bitcoin bubble comes, ltc will be pumped crazy as well. Remember last time, bitcoin went to da moon, and ltc went up crazily too, and it was pumped even more compared to the LTC/BTC rate, Ltc/btc was 0.007 btc before that pump, and the highest price was 0.049 btc. So the strong holders could earn 7 more times fiat rise than btc. From 2 USD to highest 60 USD, LTC was insanely pumped, and other altcoins were also pumped by crazy speculators.

In the end of 2013, I had the best memory.  Cheesy
1516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Does The CryptoWorld Needs Now? on: May 17, 2015, 01:52:04 PM
it's simple really, you need to raise the price, and don't say the price does not matter because otherwise there would not be all these thread about adoption, mainstream, bitcoin need this need that and whatsoever....

to do this in fastes way possible without raising a fake pump, you need big whales playing with the market and moving the price up slowly, by establishing everytime a new floor

I agree, high prices give the mainstream more attentions and exposures, btc will be known more and more people, that's the good circulation.  High price - more investors buy btc - more people know and use - governments accept btc.

Moreover, we need more banks to use btc, because btc has advantages on remittance, international trasnfer, it is much faster, cheaper and safer than bank system.

Overall, you guys don't worry about the price now, just focus on telling your friends bitcoin, if more and more people are trying to know and buy&use btc as a payment way, the price must go to da moon.
1517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between uBTC and mBTC on: May 17, 2015, 01:21:59 PM
Please tell me what is the difference between uBTC and mBTC. I want to know this topics clearly. Because I have a bitcoin wallet address and I earn bitcoin satoshi from many websites http://faucet4btc.blogspot.com/ BTC I understand the means of satoshi. But what is uBTC and mBTC?

uBTC and mBTC are different units, you know m = 1*10^-3, u = 1*10^-6,

Firstly I need to tell you the conception of satoshi, 1 sat is 1 satoshit, 1btc = 100000000 satoshis, satoshi is the smallest unit. 1 satoshi = 0.00000001 btc.

mbtc = 1*10^-3 btc = 0.001btc = 100000 satoshis.

ubtc = 1*10^-6 = 0.000001 btc = 100 satoshis.

Is this clear now? If no, I will explain in the other simpler way. Grin
1518  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiBet Bitcoin Casino - Provably Fair - Bonuses - Play Roulette, Blackjack on: May 17, 2015, 01:04:24 PM


waiting my withdraw .all still pending

Be patient, their hot wallet is empty now, so you just wait for a moment, you will get paid soon.

Btw, how did you make this great performance, unlocked a 60X rollover bonus and got 470mbtc in the end,  Shocked

What games did you play, is that possible to share the strategies with us?

I am afraid SB bonus will be 100X rollover because of the bonus whales like you. Sad
1519  Economy / Gambling / Re: No House Edge? on: May 17, 2015, 02:53:26 AM
Then again, it is not likely for you as a once a month gambler to actually feel the 0,5% house edge. This is something you notice after a lot of runs. If you only go once in a while, variance will take over and you may even end up winning or losing big.

People overestimate the effect of the house edge all the time. For example, just a couple of posts ago:

Thanks for putting it in numbers, always helps a ton!

So you always lose out, no matter the structure.

The house edge doesn't mean players always lose. It just means they will lose if they play too much, but it can take a very long time for it to happen.

On Just-Dice.com we have a 1% house edge, and take over a million bets per day, and yet over the last month the house had made a loss. The players, in aggregate, have been beating the house:



Here we see that over the last 6 weeks the site's profit has fallen slightly while the expected profit (1% of the amount wagered) has risen by 15,000 (CLAMS). In other words we have taken bets worth around 1.5 million CLAM (over $1.5 million), and the house edge hasn't "kicked in" at all.

Over the 6 months that the site has been running, on the other hand, the site has made a profit. That profit is 1.13% of all the coins that have been wagered, so it's running pretty close to expectation.

But over the last month the players have beaten the house edge, on a no-skill game, 1% house edge game.

Wow, cool, it is a clear graph, and we can see the details about your site, 1.13% real profit of bet is good, better than 1% expect return, so in long term, you can make more money than expect, unless some whales eat your house. Cheesy
1520  Economy / Gambling / Re: houston Rockets vs Los Angeles Clippers Game 7 on: May 17, 2015, 02:48:14 AM
I have 3 BTC on the Clippers. They are the better team with more playoff experience and better coach. I wouldn't be surprised if LA won by double digits.

Wow, rich guy, bet a lot on Clippers, this is the final game and in Houston rocket's home, I think this time HR won't lose the game, gogogo  Houston Rockets!!!!!!!!!!

I have loved HR for many years, because of Yaoming and Tmac, especially Tmac, he is my super idol  Grin I wish he could lead HR but he is retired now. GL rockets!!!
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