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1401  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinSports.com Betcoin.ag-Ranks #1 Best Odds-LIVE WAGERS-BOXING!-Casino-Poker on: June 03, 2015, 03:03:27 PM
Your examination fails to mention our VIP program

That's because we weren't talking about the VIP program.  We are talking about your lines, which you've promised for five+ weeks now to "tighten up".  For you to say "we have great lines" and then I say "they are worse than anyone else, what are you doing to make them better" and you to retort with "we have a VIP program!" is called moving the goalposts.

But let's look at the VIP program and see how it fits into the lines.  I'm at Silver2.  In order to get to that level one would have to wager 1,000,000 chips in the sportsbook, or 1000BTC.  Being at that level, I get .4% betback and 4% lossback.  So let's investigate what would happen if I bet using a 1BTC unit size on each side of the game on all the books that I listed:

Your line is:                   Philly +158/Cincy -196

I bet 1BTC on Philly to win 1.58BTC and 1.96BTC on Cincy to win 1BTC.  If Philly wins, I lose .38BTC + .008BTC betback and +.0152 lossback max (since your lossback is on the total won/lost for the day, not on each losing bet).  = -.3568BTC
If Cincy wins, I break even on the bets and get no lossback and get .008BTC betback = +.008BTC

Your bitcoin competitors:

Philly +160/Cincy -178 

I bet 1BTC on Philly to win 1.6BTC and 1.78BTC on Cincy to win 1BTC.  If Philly wins, I lose .18BTC; if Cincy wins I break even.
                                   Philly +158/Cincy -179 
I bet 1BTC on Philly to win 1.58BTC and 1.79BTC on Cincy to win 1BTC.  If Philly wins, I lose .21BTC; if Cincy wins I break even.
                                 
So as you can see, even with a lossback and betback rate that has come after wagering 1000BTC, the odds are still not in your favor.  The tiny couple of hundreds of a coin I'd stand to profit from the favorite winning doesn't overcome the tenths of a coin I'd lose more than your competitors if the dog wins.  You can, of course, do this same math only betting on one side and for the betback/lossback to make up the difference you'd have to wager hundreds of coins (which is over your max bet), in addition to having to have had previously wagered thousands of coins on bad lines in order to be at the appropriate rewards level.

Again, it's just not competitive.  I love your site but your lines need some major work before they are competitive and worth betting on.

I support cry, and other casino also have betback or cashback promotions, and cloudbet has also a good VIP program, but the odds are higher than here, 10% higher odds can make more 10% profits, but do you offer a 10% betback or cashback for general users? No, it is only for those high level VIPs, like over golden level member can get high cashback and betback.

If you provide higher odds, I am sure you will get more btc gambling marketing shares, very easy, and you run the site from 2013, it is solid enough.
1402  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetVIP.com - BetVIPpoker.com - NEW LIVE SOCCER MATCH VIEWER! 100% Dep. Bonus! on: June 03, 2015, 01:23:38 PM
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Hi, nice to see that, user interface is neat and cool, responding time is fast, and I see 2 freerolls, but the registration was failed because it says I don't have enough money(2mbtc) to register, what's wrong? Shouldn't be a freeroll?? Why I need to pay registration fee?
1403  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 03, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
I lost on federer match  Embarrassed it's very unexpected result for today game.
I think a lot bettor lost in this bet.
Hope we will see another unexpected result on Nadal vs Djokovic match Cheesy
As many people put their money on djokovic, i'll bet on nadal.
I know his performance is not so good this year, but this is clay field and he is king on clay field Cheesy
We will see great match  Cool

Me too, since yesterday I busted my 2.5btc on Roger, I only have 0.42 btc on my gamble bankroll, I may be allin on nadal today, if I lost the money, I won't bet any more. Luckily those BTC were earned from translation, signature campaign, and I don't gamble with my salary, i have to do the risk management now.

EDIT: luckily I didn't bet on nadal, 0-4 now, djo will win the first set easily, and beat nadal easily, unexpected result today, like yesterday, I bet some low odds in-play bets, like is there a tiebreak in set 1? I bet on no, lol

EDIT: again 4-4 now, nadal is the real King of clay... Shocked Amazing
1404  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: June 03, 2015, 01:05:46 PM
It is unfair that so many people on default list gave dadice and dadice staff neg rate and dadice has never scammed anyone.

But see this real scam site btcbook.eu, OP only gets 1 neg trust, it is very obvious that those people have double standards against scams, gave you innocent guys with red trust, but don't give real scam neg turst?

See the link, this site has run away with users' funds for a month   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864590.520  But his rate is -2, how can non-scam dadice got -16(some days ago, now is -4)??
1405  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 03, 2015, 02:55:02 AM
I see really difficult that nadal wins,he is in a low state and it will be really difficult to beat djokovic

Nadal has been mine all time favourite. Though he is in a poor state but my heart says he is gonna win Smiley
Both favorites fell today hopefully nadal is upset minded tommorow and brings home a win.

Yes, yesterday high odds players won, tsonga's odds was over 3.5 against Kei, especially wawrinka beat tennis king roger 3-0 is very very unexpected,  and are today's matches unexpected too?

I guess fererer and nadal may win, but I won't bet on fererer today.
1406  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 02, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
What do u guys think about Fedx vs Stan the man?

Ive got my money on Fedx ..Hopefully he wins.!  Come On!

Hopefully Nadal wins tomorrow! Smiley

My point is same as yours, Roger win will because roger won 16 times against stan and only lost 2 times, so Roger is not afraid of Stan indeed, I bet 2.5btc on Roger and the odds was 1.4, but that site increased the odds to 1.45 now, I am very unhappy, I won't bet too early next time, I think the later I bet, higher the odds.

About Nadal, i think he will win cos this main reason: he won 9 champions of French Open in last 10 years, the King of clay will dominate the game and beat Djo with 3-1 or 3-2, although sportsbooks prefer djo. IMO the winner of this match will be the champion of French Open 2015.
Sadly now stan leading on first set 1-0
Hope roger take back win on set two,three,four and roger win this match. good luck

Today is so expected, Roger 0-2 now and tsonga 2-0 kei, although roger won 16 times against Stan, stan has very good state today, can't imagine that, my money earned from translation and signature campaign will be void soon.  Sad
1407  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 02, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
What do u guys think about Fedx vs Stan the man?

Ive got my money on Fedx ..Hopefully he wins.!  Come On!

Hopefully Nadal wins tomorrow! Smiley

My point is same as yours, Roger win will because roger won 16 times against stan and only lost 2 times, so Roger is not afraid of Stan indeed, I bet 2.5btc on Roger and the odds was 1.4, but that site increased the odds to 1.45 now, I am very unhappy, I won't bet too early next time, I think the later I bet, higher the odds.

About Nadal, i think he will win cos this main reason: he won 9 champions of French Open in last 10 years, the King of clay will dominate the game and beat Djo with 3-1 or 3-2, although sportsbooks prefer djo. IMO the winner of this match will be the champion of French Open 2015.
1408  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: June 02, 2015, 01:15:41 PM
I find an interesting thing, before the dadice storm, dadice only had around 100 players in peak, but after some people trolling here, the current online players are over 150  Shocked

So they make your site more exposures to the community, that trolling storm gives 50% more players come to play here, and more and more players like playing here,  Grin  Free advertisement for dadice?? Grin
1409  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 02, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
I predict that Djokovic will beat Nadal on Wednesday!
I sure hope not but it will probably happen. I cant wait to watch the match i made a small bet on nadal     
to win the tournament. If anyone needs a decent place to watch the matches online i have been using this site.
http://www.stream2watch.com/sports/tennis

Thanks dude, I couldn't find a good live stream nowadays so i had to see the live score in rolandgarros.com, it is boring to see only figures.

And this time i hope your site is beneficial to us, and it is totally free.  Cheesy

I tried french website but it doesn't allow non-french IPs to watch, if i use the VPN, it is damn slow.
1410  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM | No.1 for Cryptocurrency Gambling | Provably Fair | 1 BTC BONUS on: June 02, 2015, 02:57:50 AM
So... i made a withdrawal today.  My casino account page shows the withdrawal as complete.  The withdrawal page still has my wallet address populated in the appropriate field, which I have twice confirmed as accurate.  And the wirhdrawal amount has been deducted from my casino account.  However, they do not offer a transaction i.d., the funds have not arrived to my wallet, nor do they show as pending, and the blockchain has no record of them sending it at all.  Also, zero response to support requests or to messages on this forum.  This was several hours ago, as I do realize the time difference.  Zero response to support requests from 7 hours ago makes me feel enough uncertainty with this site to reach out and possibly warn others.

You will get paid I am sure, they have paid big payouts and I think you should be more patient, write a post here is better than a ticket, and you can also talk to admin in the chatting room, I heard FJ is a Russian casino, so time difference is an issue. Just be patient.
1411  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bet up to 200 BTC on NBA Playoffs | sportsbook and casino on: June 02, 2015, 02:40:06 AM
Been waiting over 36 hours for munster v glasgow to be graded http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32929818

Contacted support after 12 hours, took them almost a day to respond:

"Thanks for getting in touch with us, all of your pending bets have now been settled and your account credited accordingly."

Its been 6 hours since I got this response and the bet has still not been graded and is still pending. I contacted supported again, I guess it will be another day before they respond...

Just thought I would share with everyone what betting on Cloudbet and dealing with their customer support can be like. I've tried to be patient but I think this is unacceptable and people should know what to expect from them.



they are too busy in refreshing their servers..
two days back i had also sent them mail for wrong bet selection i bet on middlesex and their system selected sussex ..i mailed them that their system was not beheaving well orderly and they replied back me today morning..almost 30 hours....with sad reply to me..just will say cloudbet you never accept your folly..never down on your knee..thinks you are perfect...please remove this thinking of yours..
you are the best gambling i ever know...you will be the best if you remove your i attitute..
thats all..
thankyou.

any answer from the support? I see this site offers decent odds on tennis, I want to move my funds here, but I saw so many negative issues here, I don't want to lose my money on this kind of silly system fault, it is a cheat fault..
1412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis bets on: June 01, 2015, 07:22:11 PM
How do you think of next 4 matches?

Roland Garros, Paris, France                                    1                          2                     time
Nishikori, Kei vs TSONGA, JO-WILFRIED LIVE            1.27                      3.68             02 Jun, 21:15+18
Wawrinka, Stanislas vs Federer, Roger LIVE             2.89                      1.40             02 Jun, 21:15+12
Murray, Andy vs Ferrer, David                               1.45                      2.70             03 Jun, 16:00+12
DJOKOVIC, NOVAK vs Nadal, Rafael                         1.31                     3.38             03 Jun, 16:00+12

I pick Kei, Federer, Ferrer and Nadal, how do you think?  Grin 

wow you are brave man.... Wink
well I disagree with Nadal.
also Ferrer (he has 4 wins on clay vs Murray, but it's time for Scot to set the order)...but you know that's only my thought.....anyway huge amount of luck is needed...

Actually I just pick them but I won't bet money on kei vs tsonga, murray vs ferrer, I have bet 2.5btc on roger federer, and if i win that bet, I will bet 0.5btc on nadal, otherwise I won't bet on djo VS nadal, it is too risky to bet this match.

IMO the only safe money is bet on roger this round.  Wink
1413  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinSports.com Betcoin.ag-Ranks #1 Best Odds-LIVE WAGERS-BOXING!-Casino-Poker on: June 01, 2015, 07:15:57 PM
Some of your odds are lower than other, I bet on tennis currently here, but I find these 4 matches are lower than fiat sportsbooks and cloudbet.

Roland Garros, Paris, France                                    1                          2                     time
Nishikori, Kei vs TSONGA, JO-WILFRIED LIVE            1.27                      3.68             02 Jun, 21:15+18
Wawrinka, Stanislas vs Federer, Roger LIVE             2.89                      1.40             02 Jun, 21:15+12
Murray, Andy vs Ferrer, David                               1.45                      2.70             03 Jun, 16:00+12
DJOKOVIC, NOVAK vs Nadal, Rafael                         1.31                     3.38             03 Jun, 16:00+12

Cloudbet's odds of roger is 1.46, david ferrer 2.87, nadal 3.5, I think you should improve your odds, or people may leave here.   Cheesy

And you should increase the bet limit actually, 2.5btc per bet is too low, cloudbet 50BTC limit is cool, although I have never bet there, I may play there in the future because they have better odds.  Sad
1414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis bets on: June 01, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
How do you think of next 4 matches?

Roland Garros, Paris, France                                    1                          2                     time
Nishikori, Kei vs TSONGA, JO-WILFRIED LIVE            1.27                      3.68             02 Jun, 21:15+18
Wawrinka, Stanislas vs Federer, Roger LIVE             2.89                      1.40             02 Jun, 21:15+12
Murray, Andy vs Ferrer, David                               1.45                      2.70             03 Jun, 16:00+12
DJOKOVIC, NOVAK vs Nadal, Rafael                         1.31                     3.38             03 Jun, 16:00+12

I pick Kei, Federer, Ferrer and Nadal, how do you think?  Grin 
1415  Economy / Gambling / Re: French Open 2015 on: June 01, 2015, 06:53:44 PM
My predictions for the left matches.

Roland Garros, Paris, France                                    1                          2                     time
Nishikori, Kei vs TSONGA, JO-WILFRIED LIVE            1.27                      3.68             02 Jun, 21:15+18
Wawrinka, Stanislas vs Federer, Roger LIVE             2.89                      1.40             02 Jun, 21:15+12
Murray, Andy vs Ferrer, David                               1.45                      2.70             03 Jun, 16:00+12
DJOKOVIC, NOVAK vs Nadal, Rafael                         1.31                     3.38             03 Jun, 16:00+12

It is the schedule, how do you think guys, who will win, and will you bet on them??

My picks:  
Nishikori, Kei  has  55% chance to win, Tsonga played well last match against thomas tomas berdych, and France is his home, although Kei is better than Tsonga but tsonga may beat kei at home. A very difficult choice, I won't bet on this match. Last time i wanted bet on Tsonga but I didn't, what a pity  If I get free 1000 usd to bet, I will bet on Tsonga, just saying. Cheesy  Although I think Kei will beat Tsonga.  Cry

Federer, Roger  95% win, http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=F324&oId=W367  We can see the stats, roger won 16 times against wawrinka, wawrinka only has won 2 times. It is obvious that Roger will win tomorrow. odds 1.4 is very good, and I bet 2.5btc on Roger this time, if he will win, my profit is 1 btc.   Cheesy    https://sports.betcoin.ag/ShareTicket/?ticketid=28594

Ferrer, David    OOps, great odds for betting on Ferrer, haha, and Ferrer never was beaten by Murray in clay.  Although he won 6 and lost 9 times totally in history,
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=F401&oId=MC10   IMO David will win.  Grin

Nadal, Rafael   Damn, sportsbooks don't think the KING of clay will win? O Damn good odds, LOL, and I will bet 0.5btc on nadal if I won 1 btc from roger federer.
1416  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is day trading on Coinbase profitable? on: June 01, 2015, 06:37:45 PM
No, it's not profitable. Better invest your hard-earned money on something fun like hookers or cocaine. Same ROI. LOL

You can only make money trading altcoins, or btc leverage trading, plus future trading.

I guess there's also option c), betting on the sportsbooks, I have won decent money on French Open 2015, I deposited 1 btc to a sportsbook and currently my balance is 2.8+ btc, so it is very easy money to make profits from tennis, if you gamble on nadal, djokovic or roger federer.  Grin
1417  Other / MultiBit / Re: What should i do as a bitcoin user when the fork happens? on: June 01, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
You don't need to do anything, I know many altcoins were forked, and there were no hazard for fork actually, sometimes a coin is forked when it has new significant feature updated or parameter changed, like if btc's block time changes to 1 minutes, there will be a hard for.

So you just need to upgrade your new wallet and your money won't be lost, take it easy.  Grin
1418  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to Sell BTC and get money in Okpay USD ?????? on: June 01, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
you can buy and sell btc to USD or USD to btx in btc-e.com, it is the most reliable exchange.

Additionally, you can use localbitcoin or okcoin, they also have this payment method.
1419  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BetCoin.Ag Scammed Me on: June 01, 2015, 05:07:03 PM
BETCOIN IS A HUGE SCAM. I NEVER GOT MY DEPOSIT BONUS. These guys are huge frauds

Are you sure? Did you write a ticket to support, actually their deposit bonus has 50X rollover, with that high rollover, I don't think you can complete the rollover and withdraw your bonus and deposit.

Betcoin.ag is a very reliable site actually man,  Cheesy  I bet here and make some money, no issue at all.
1420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How about your casino deposit bonus experince? on: June 01, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
no ways . depositing in online casinos and gambling over it is a huge risk man .
personally I don't have any luck in gambling and so I never invested money in gambling .

we are talking about deposit bonuses
so u can deposit and don't touch your own money and then you can order the first deposit bonus
and try your luck with it
it's not risky at all if you are not addicted to gambling , simply you can play with the bonus
if u wager it right , you can withdraw your money and the bonus
and when you lose the bonus , you can simply withdraw your money
so there is nothing to lose except time of course  Grin

No, you can't withdraw bonus if don't meet the rollover, they deduct your deposit first, and then is the bonus.

For example, if you have 1btc deposit and 1 btc bonus, so bankroll is 2btc in total. If you lost 0.2btc, so your balance is 1.8btc, it includes 0.8 btc deposit and 1btc bonus, if you lose money, the money is deducted from deposit balance, so it is very dangerous to add a 100% deposit bonus, actually deposit bonus is the bonus for casinos, they lock your deposit and bonus, if you can't complete the ridiculous high rollover, that's why most of people busted the whole deposit and bonus.
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