I think ethereum deserves to be invested because of the excellent potential for the long term it's all because a lot of people need ethereum for their transaction costs and I'm sure in the future this will not change even I'm sure more people will need ethereum and they should buy ethereum and because many people buy ethereum ethereum price will become more expensive |
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As I have noticed these days, when the ICO hasnt finished yet and the sale was still on going, the bounty tokens has already been distributed and also unlocked they sell it immediately on forkdelta or etherdelta for a much lower that ICO price, in which it could greatly disturb the sales in tokens. As for you the investor on that token, would you panic when you see that the tokens you own already selling at much lower price?
there are indeed some ICO's that distribute and register their tokens in the market before the end of the sale and the price in the market is much cheaper than the ICO price and of course it is very bad impact on the sale of their tokens because I think if I want to buy the token I certainly prefer to buy it in the market because the price is cheaper I'm sure investors are complaining about this |
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Look at the price, what's happening, it's all affect of hard forking, which will be happening in 3rd week of October. But now we can see the reaction of the market. Just wait couple of days more, All Alt coin price will hit rock bottom. It is good chance to buy or invest in alt coin, if you want to get into few new coins.
when the price drops I do not think there is any reason not to buy it because although a lot of coins whose price drops at the lowest point but the chances for a great return up even I'm sure this year there will be a significant price increase in most of the coins |
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Platform lending dan pinjaman sudah banyak sih ya sebelumnya,,namun untuk yang satu ini kayaknya istimewa juga,karena tim dan advisor nya cukup banyak juga,,partner nya juga banyak,,bisa jadi kelebihan untuk proyek ini,,semoga sukses nanti ico nya gan
proyek dengan peminjaman memang sangat di kagumi dan jadi buruan para investor apalagi punya tim yang hebat dalam proyek ini serta alokasi juga besar.dan yang jadi menyakinkan lagi sudah banyak mitra yang bekerjasama dengan proyek invox finance. memang dengan adanya platform seperti ini tentunya akan banyak yg tertarik karna proyek ini memiliki solusi untuk era baru pembiayaan faktur dengan membangun platform P2P yang terdesentralisasi di mana penjual, pembeli, dan investor terhubung langsung . biasanya proyek tentang konsep seperti ini memang banyak diminati gan jadi saya percaya proyek ini nanti akan mendulang kesuksesan. semoga proyek ini berjalan dengan lancar NAmpak dari keseriusan dari pihak team nya pun sangat diapresiasi, dengan begitu optimis nya projek ini akan mendulang kesuksesan itulah salah satu bentuk keseriusan team projek ini, sangat begitu percaya diri untuk kedepannya keseriusan tim harus di dukung gan, agar semakin semangat dalam mempromosikan proyek. ane lihat alokasi untuk signature nya kecil ya hanya 10% ga seperti proyek lainnya yang lebih besar alokasi untuk sigcam. Mungkin Tim dev nya ada rencana lain sehingga alokasi untuk signature nya kecil gan tidak seperti kampanye bounty lain, semoga saja dengan rencana dan semangat tim Invox Finance ini, akan membawa kesuksesan besar untuk proyek Invox Finance ini. tapi walaupun alokasi yg disediakan cuma 10% untuk signature pesertanya juga limited kan gan jadi sepertinya cukup fair lah dan semoga hasil buat para pesertanya memuaskan itu benar gan walaupun alokasinya jauh lebih kecil dengan alokasi bounty lain akan tetapi pesertanya dibatasi jadi hasilnya pun akan tetap memuaskan, lagipula walaupun alokasinya hanya 10% tapi jaminan dibayarnya tinggi dan menurut saya itu lah yang terpenting |
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Kenapa ya spreadsheet nya sampai saat ini ngak bisa di download ataukah masih di hitung perolehan Token nya atau bagaimana?
sepertinya masih dalam tahap kalkulasi kali gan atau masih dalam tahap mensortir adanya kecurangan kecurangan sudah hampir mau sebulan ya dari berakhirnya ico kemaren 20 april dan belum ada tanda tanda distribusi Hampir sebulan ya gan, namun belum ada info juga dari team. Namun ditunggu dengan sabar semoga ada kejelasan. Berharap kalau dapat reward dan tidak seperti Mindlink sih ... tapi kalau sama saja apa mau dikata. Lama juga kalau sudah mau sebulan belum distribusi sampai sekarang, informasinya belum update lagi mengenai kapan distribusi untuk para peserta harusnya ada kepastian minimal tanggal berapa-berapanya gitu mau dibagikan kalau menurut saya hal itu masih dalam batas wajar gan karena biasanya proses distribusi memang membutuhkan waktu yang lama selain karena pesertanya banyak urusan dengan investornya pun masih ada, kalau sudah lebih dari dua bulan baru saya anggap lambat tanpa peduli apapun alasannya |
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iya om harga TBAR lambat banget sampai sekarang masih hrag yang sama, sampai sekarang ane masih menunggu di rate $2/TBAR, kalau jual sekarang rugi banyak ane karena bli di $1/TBAR
Spertinya memang membutuhkan waktu yang lumayan lama deh untuk bisa mencapai harga $2 kembali karena pada saat itu market pada kondisi yang sangat bagus dan sialnya malah projek ini mendapatkan masalah yang serius sehingga mengharuskan mengeluarkan token baru yang secara otomatis harga akan jatuh dari harga token terdahulu , lebih baik hold saja terus gan sampai harga kembali lagi. Wah kembali ke $1 aja susah nya minta ampun gan, apalagi mencapai $2 per TBAR. Kok kemahalan banget itu yang beli di rate $1? Bisa bisanya beli di harga tinggi seperti itu, gak ada pilihan lain kecuali hold terus. Karena tidak ada yang tau jika titanium bakal dihack. Mereka yang beli diharga $1 dan diatasnya itu dulu mengira jika harga tersebut sudah termasuk murah. Betul gan, sebelum ada kasus hack kan adem ayem aja itu projek titanium tapi gara2 kasus hack langsung hancur harga token titanium dan sekarang lagi proses pemulihan tapi kondisi market gak ada yang bisa prediksi, sekarang lagi merah semua. Kondisi market sekarang lagi kurang bagus nih gan pastinya titanium juga lagi gak bagus dan akan sangat lambat kalau mau naik, harus penuh kesabaran nih untuk menunggunya, bitcoinnya juga lagi merah membara jadi pengaruh terhadap koin lain juga iya gan untuk sekarang ini kondisi market memang masih kurang bagus dan tentu saja kurang mendukung agar harganya bisa naik tapi walaupun saya tetap merasa bahwa harganya tidak akan mengalami banyak kenaikan walaupun kondisi market sedang bagus itu semua karena kasus hack yang membuat orang jadi sedikit ragu terhadap token tersebut |
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What have you been using your ETH for?
For trading
To buy ICO
For long term investment
Other - explain
my goal of buying ETH is for trading as well as for transaction costs but until now I tend to use ETH for transaction fee because I am focusing on being a bounty hunter but if I have focused myself on trading I will use ETH to be my trading coin because I really like ETH and I think ETH is great for trading |
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So guys, what do you think about investing in different icos? I think it's a good idea. We never know which will take the lead in the future. Please help me and give me good suggestions!
I think so too because we do not know which ico will work and make us fortunate because even though ico has a good concept the risk of failure is still there not to mention there are many scam cases so from that join and invest in many ico is the best solution but still we must also be selective and careful in choosing ico that we will follow investing in coin is the same as ico |
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Tim Draper: More Secure in Bitcoin Than the Money Sitting in Wells Fargo
Venture capitalist Tim Draper is bullish on Bitcoin and believes it will reach $250,000 in the next four years.
During a debate hosted by Intelligence Squared and the Adam Smith Society, Tim Draper was asked how Bitcoin compared with his previous tech investments in Hotmail, Skype, and Tesla. He replied bullishly, saying, “Bitcoin will be bigger than all three combined.” However, Draper didn’t leave it at that — he thinks it will be bigger than the iron age, the Renaissance, and the internet and says that the nascent technology will affect the entire world in a faster and more prevalent way than ever imagined.
The Debate: “Bitcoin is more than a bubble and here to stay.”
Backed up by Patrick Byrne (CEO of overstock), Draper took on Financial Times journalist, Gillian Tett, and Professor of Law, Eric Posner, both of whom argued that Bitcoin is indeed a bubble and strongly contested Draper’s claims. Posner and Tett called into question the “strengths” of Bitcoin, arguing that they could be regarded as weaknesses. Posner suggested that the pseudonymization of identity enabled by the technology makes Bitcoin transactions the perfect vehicle for sophisticated criminal transactions. Tett focused on the risk involved with trusting computers with finance as they can be hacked, are prone to faults, and that Bitcoin is a “terrible store of value.”
These arguments won’t be anything new to anyone who has studied the space, and the rebuttals of Draper and Byrne won’t come as a surprise either. The pair acknowledged that Bitcoin was imperfect and drew attention to the fact the technology was designed to be open source so that unforeseen problems can be managed by the community. Byrne also pointed out that although Bitcoin has been “hacked at” more than anything in history, but unlike banks, it has yet to be defeated.
Draper was more brazen in his responses and implored the crowd to use fiat if they were looking to facilitate their own criminal activity as many Bitcoin criminals get caught. The venture capitalist responded to Tett’s admission that she invests in several different fiat currencies by saying, “I’m so much more secure in my Bitcoin than I am in the money that’s sitting there in Wells Fargo.”
Who is right?
The short answer is it’s far too early to tell, but it is good to see the subject being discussed in this manner. Before the debate, Gillian Tett remarked that if both sides of an argument aren’t heard in the same room, on the same day, then the conversations can “go past one another.” It’s probably safe to say she’s right here because, although there is no shortage of media on either side of the argument, real debate on the subject can be difficult to find.
If crypto is going to head down the road Draper expects, its advocates need to be able to argue their case outside of the crypto community, and debate should be welcome as it not only gives both sides the ability to speak but also the ability to listen.
Draper’s comments are to be expected
As crypto enthusiasts, it’s easy to agree when figures like Draper sing the praises of Bitcoin, but we shouldn’t let confirmation bias get in the way of the issues. Draper is a successful investor, and he hasn’t arrived there without making mistakes. He could be wholly right, wrong, or somewhere in between — the latter is most likely. Draper allegedly owns 30,000 BTC, so he has a vested interest in Bitcoin’s success. That does not mean he is wrong, but it does mean his comments should be taken with a pinch of salt. Well-reasoned arguments are far more convincing than hype and chest beating because they allow people to make up their own minds.
The emergence of DLT might eclipse the impact of other innovations, but for now, the emphasis is not on critics to prove the crypto community wrong. It’s up to those who champion DLT to convince the world they’re right.
Originally published at cryptodisrupt.com
I think both are a good and safe way to save but if we make our money into coins, we have a chance to make a profit because coin prices are always changing but we can also lose anytime because of it while the bank does not offer that potential and risk |
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It really is hard to believe that there are some ICOs who are intended to scam people. There are all hypocrits and rely on the weakness of people especially those who are new to bitcoin. So sad.
really, there are many ico or scam projects and it is very scary and sad but we still have a lot of hope because ico or good project also there are many and it will always be there so there is nothing we need to worry about |
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Hi guys,
I was trying to invest around 5K in Etherium. The price at the moment is around 1.2K and as it looks it is still growing. You think is it a good time to invest ?
I think ethereum will always be good for investment because ethereum is platform or smart contract so its potential to be a very good investment because ethereum will always be needed so that when we choose to be investment we will not lose even tend to profit because I believe the price will be more expensive many new coins are using ethereum as their platform so the future of ethereum gets brighter |
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that's right, bitcoin is actually the king of coins and I think the queen is ethereum and forever will continue to do so because I think both coins have a brighter future compared to other coins which are platforms or smart contracts therefore they will not be abandoned and will always be needed and the price will automatically be more expensive than the other coin |
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masuk bulan baru lagi yah, berarti siap=siap gajian nih bounty hunter hehe. mantap juga sih bisa gajian tiap bulan, kyk serasa PNS. tapi mungkin bener kata teman-teman diatas, kalo harganya bakalan dump lagi.
Serasa memiliki passive income. Awalnya saya kurang setuju dengan pembayaran yang dicicil setiap bulan, tapi ternyata cukup menguntungkan juga. sebenarnya menurut saya bukan seperti itu gan, secara pribadi kita sama sekali tidak mendapatkan keuntungan dari sistem pembayaran seperti itu hanya saja ini akan berdampak baik pada rate token tersebut karena dengan sistem pembayaran yang bertahap resiko dump bisa lebih diminimalisir |
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Bagi anda penggemar redpill dan jika anda membagikan bounty media sosial sebaiknya anda laporkan pekerjaan anda pada thread bounty asli bukan pada altcoin lokal seperti ini. Kecuali jika sudah ada pengakuan dari manager terkait bisa laporkan tugas di thread lokal.
Iya agan ne para peserta bounty paham dengan rules yang tertera di project nggak sih,sudah tahu thread ini hanyalah sekedar diskusi dan berbagi informasi tentan project bounty redpill eh malah di jadikan lahan report pekerjaan mereka, ini salah satu akibat dari tidak membaca rules yang ada atau malah mereka bergabung poject ditherwad ini bukan therad bounty asli sehingga mereport laporan merka disini gan mungkin karena mereka sudah terbiasa membuat laporan di thread bounty maka dari itu mereka membuat laporannya disini tetapi walaupun begitu sudah seharusnya setiap bounty hunter membaca dan memahami rule bounty yang mereka ikuti agar pekerjaan mereka tidak sia-sia karena tidak bekerja sesuai rule yang diberikan |
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untuk saat ini zippie sudah bisa buy and sell di bancor.network tapi saya masih ragu untuk memakai market ini karena sistem login nya menggunakan messenger, telegram dan wechat. biasanya kan kalo market lain untuk login memakai email dan password. mungkin ada teman2 disini yang bisa kasih masukan tolong apakah aman trading disana ?
untuk saat ini harga zippie 5000 zippie = 0,58 ETH
moga harga nya bisa lebih naik lagi setelah di rilis di market yang lain
Bancor biaya transaksi sangat besar kayaknya gan, menurut saya platform seperti itu sangat susah menarik minat trader gan. Karena biaya mahal saat menjual token sangat mempengaruhi minat trader apalagi kalau token yang mau dijual itu sedikit. benar gan.Biaya transaksi tergolong mahal banget dari pada market lain.saya menjual zipper saja 200 token gas kepotong 6 dollar..untung kena di harga tinggi ya kaga jadi masalah..untuk sekarang rate zipt sudah mulai turun entah banyak yang sell. memang benar gan biaya transaksinya memang tergolong tinggi karena 6 dollar menurut saya adalah nominal yang cukup besar jika hanya untuk biaya transaksi akan tetapi saya rasa tidak ada yang bisa kita lakukan unutk itu karena kita memang sangat membutuhkan jasa mereka |
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The number of successful ICO's are decreasing dramatically. Just wanna know about successful ICO's in the fourth quarter of 2017 and if anybody still believes in ICO's.
of course I still believe ico although indeed the success rate decreased but I can not only see ico that failed because there are still many ico who succeed then from that I still believe in ico proof I am still in this forum because I want to find a good ico's |
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Currently, there are a huge number of ICO projects. Of course, we all understand that half of these projects are either Scam or just very weak projects that nobody needs. But now there are at least such projects. What will be in a year, when the ICO every day will be less and less until it reaches the point that one project per month will be released? It is also worth mentioning that the number of participants in the bounty companies is increasing day by day, and the money allocated to the bounty companies are becoming less. Conclusion: the bounty of the company will exist for another year, or a maximum of two.
What do you think about this?
I understand what you are afraid but I think with such great potential then it is reasonable if the risk is also great then from that we really need to do is not do not believe ico but still looking for a good ico that will make us get big profit as well with bounty |
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I missed the dip the other day and am wondering if I should hold out for another dip or if the current prices are still decent. Mainly looking at litecoin and etherum. I also need coins regardless so I can exchange for other altcoins.
I think if you wait any longer you will be abandoned when people partying you can only see it when you currently have a chance to celebrate the party as well because soon there will be a big meeting that will discuss the crypto and I am sure the results will be positive and of course crypto will experience a significant price so invest now |
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Hello guys!  Today I wanted to ask you, what do you think about airdrops? As for me, I work in the KickCity project and recently we launched airdrop. I do really like the result! We have a lot of newcomers and new people who are interested in the company. If you want to join you can ask the team in the community https://t.me/kickcity_chat (the airdrop is closed by now) SO  Are you taking part in airdrops? Do you like the result? What is the feedback? Or maybe you are working in a project launching airdrop? What is more, you can get tokens for testing a project's beta. For example, KickCity. You can get reward for testing this platform https://kickcity.io/event/5a9d11030cf2cac8e081f3e8I like airdrop because although I never get good results from airdrop but I keep trying it because I'm sure there are some airdrop that can make the participants get much result and I look for it |
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Hello! How do you prefer to get crypto? Do you invest or you prefer to join bounty? What is more, you can get tokens for testing a project's beta. For example, KickCity. You can get reward for testing this platform https://kickcity.io/event/5a9d11030cf2cac8e081f3e8I like both of them but for now I just do one of them is becoming a bounty hunter I have a desire to be an investor because if we choose the right ico we will get huge profits and I understand the risks are also great because we can lose and the worst hit by scam but that does not downplay my intentions |
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