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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥✅[ICO LIVE] SGAT Platform for data storage, certification and traceability on: November 23, 2018, 11:09:02 AM

Guys, what is your opinion: in 42 days the project will manage to achieve a soft cap?

I think we should collect, and there it depends on the market situation.
I do not even know. Much depends on the team and on their interests.
Perhaps collected, and perhaps not. Let's look.
It seems to me, that this is a short term. perhaps, the team will not be able to collect such a sum, because the cryptomarket is in a rather difficult situation. but we will hope for the best.

Now, It's very difficult to raise money in the ICOs. Most the f the ICOs raise big money, have private investors with big funds. I don't think Sgat can reach the soft cap only by collecting money from individuals.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 23, 2018, 11:00:21 AM
Their Risk Free Investment seems solid! If you invest in them and later you decide to walk out of this project seeing ni progress you can claim your ETH back!
Which is cool for me, as they are promising the product or the return of money!

Yes, that's a really interesting move. Good that they have published more information today.
The brave can continue to do without, and get 10% bonus for it. I think that should be worth the risk :-)

It’s important that they continue to release more information and develop the project in a way that the community is very attached to how the project is improving and growing

Yup agree on you, it means that the project is still improving and devolving new features for the project and in time it be will fully become successful with the helps of the community and the moderators. Nice move to attract a lot of investor in their risk free.

Oh that's what the risk free investment is. It is a nice strategy and can attract investors to invest knowing that they can get their investment back if they are not satisfied with the progress.

Yea, you know the community is on the edge right now and everyone needs something to hold on to, a guarantee that if something goes wrong, they will get back their money, having a plan in place to help the community feel safe is a wonderful one, giving them that feeling of less risk on the part of the project and as such, they can comfortably come into the project

I don't see any guarantee. They are only saying they will get back money to the investors if they are not satisfied. How I can I trust it?
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 23, 2018, 10:57:51 AM
This is the first time a Blockchain based project is trying to protect investors fund. It shows they mean business here. I’ll expected with this payback in place we are not far from the hardcap no more.

Personally I am not optimistic about the payback. There is no detail about it.
Are they supposed to pay money back to all the holders or only initial investors?
How will it be implemented if all the holders want their money?
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 15, 2018, 11:15:23 AM
They just announced that they are zero-risk investment option that gives security to investors, in addition to offering Tachain for anyone who is not satisfied with their project to return the initial investment for the amount of money originally purchased TCHN token after a period of 12 months.
Source: https://t.me/TAChain_EN

I can not imagine that they can do it that way. If in 12 months, at worst, all investors want their money back, where do they take it from?
or is that only for new investors?

I also cannot imagine that they will pay back the money to all unsatisfied investors. The effort would be immense. However, the Tachain team is very confident, that all investors are satisfied with the project.

That's the point i was stressing the other time, i have heard of such but have not actually experience it happen in the blockchain industry, of course we don't wish for such a scenario for tachain but it will something to behold, that's transparency speaking but i hope to see them get the needed funds instead and implement their roadmap effectively

Let's assume that there will be no problem with the development of the project and every thing goes well. Can the team guarantee that the price will rise?
There is no guarantee. Just see what is happening to the bitcoin and the market.
If the price doesn't rise all the holders will ask for their money.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 15, 2018, 10:57:40 AM
They just announced that they are zero-risk investment option that gives security to investors, in addition to offering Tachain for anyone who is not satisfied with their project to return the initial investment for the amount of money originally purchased TCHN token after a period of 12 months.
Source: https://t.me/TAChain_EN

It’s a pretty solid way to assure investors I mean a 12 month  period is a darn good security blanket for investors to decide if it’s going well or not
They are offering money back guarantee that's mean they are confident about their project. I don't think so people will ask about money back.

Yeah super confident. By the way regarding about their money back I think some people said it's only available if they didn't achieve the softcap. But they already  achieved it and we're also sure that they can start properly.

Does this mean that if I invest in their token sale and later loose confidence in the project I can request for my initial investment back?

You can ask for money back 12 months after the ICO. You will get back your initial funding.
I don't think they give back your money before the one year period ends.
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥✅[ICO LIVE] SGAT Platform for data storage, certification and traceability on: November 14, 2018, 03:13:14 PM

Does the project team attend various conferences? And where can I see information about it?

As I remember, they were supposed to attend some events in Q4 2018. But nothing has announced by the team yet.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 14, 2018, 02:59:35 PM

there is no need to publish the app now. After changing the roadmap and starting the project at the earliest in Q2 2019, an app has no function until then

so what you are saying is that the team to focus on other aspects of the project right now, but releasing the app is still not a bad idea i believe the community will still be happy

there we are completely different opinion :-)
As I said, I consider it totally unnecessary to publish an app that you can not use. Just look at the iOS app, you can not even register. What is the point if you install an app that has no use half a year before the project starts?

Have to agree I don’t get the anxiousness for another app when the fact is the backend and getting customers and advertisers onboarded should be the number one focus not just another app
I personally think it is better to release the app although it does not have any function yet it is still nice to have it ready for the future.

I think I will have to disagree. I don't think it is a good idea to release something that is not ready; It will just reflect that the team is unable to deliver or at least properly test the app before releasing it to masses.

It's better to flow the road map. If they were supposed to launch an alpha version or something like that, they should release that. Better to do what the road map says even if it is delayed.
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 14, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
They just announced that they are zero-risk investment option that gives security to investors, in addition to offering Tachain for anyone who is not satisfied with their project to return the initial investment for the amount of money originally purchased TCHN token after a period of 12 months.
Source: https://t.me/TAChain_EN

Wow, that's like giving a one year warranty (so to speak) to investors. But that's really exposing them to a lot of potential risks though.

It’s great news. Investors can get back initial investment in 12months if not satisfied with the project. But crypto market is volatile. Team raised funds in eth, what happens if eth value goes low?

It's great for the investors. But, Is there any guarantee for that? The money raised will be spent for development of the project. What if all the investors want their money?
109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin for the people or for the corporations? on: November 13, 2018, 02:46:26 PM
When Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies first came out, everyone were saying that it was for the people to get their financial freedom. Now, it seems like it's being taken over by big financial institutions. Should we be worried?

Do you mean that financial institutions have invested in bitcoin?
What's the problem if bitcoin is more adopted? Every person, company or institution are welcome. Bitcoin belongs to every one. This is the benefit of decentalization. No one is banned.

If you mean bitcoin is controlled by some institutions, you are wrong. That's impossible.

Don't worry and enjoy the world of cryptocurrencies.
110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are you most interested in learning about? on: November 13, 2018, 02:36:08 PM
There is no doubt people here care about money making more than any other thing.
I don't think this form has created for such a purpose. But it's what the posts are showing.
111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as an example of true democracy ? on: November 13, 2018, 02:29:36 PM
Bitcoin is created mainly for ordinary people to make transactions without third parties and that payments would be anonymous ! Bitcoin frees humanity from the control of your personal money from the global States. It shows the true face of world democracy and frees us from dictators who think they are kings !
Do you agree ? Share your opinion friends.
Everything peace !

When we use fiat, we only have some papers which their value is determined by governments and central banks. We are not owner of money. Banks can easily block our accounts. So, what you said is right.
112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DO THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT YOUR MONEY? on: November 13, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
Banks have been able to control our money for my years. They keep our money and give us valueless interests.  Cryptocurrencies can change this and that's why they are trying to keep people far from cryptocurrencies. They are only thinking of themselves.
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🚀[ANN] [ICO] Tachain - Entertainment and Transportation Synergy🔥🚀 on: November 11, 2018, 06:17:00 PM
I’d imagine through either the site or smart contract directly depends on how the team sets it up and when they start allowing it as I doubt they allow refunds from day 1

is refund a thing in ICO? i use to believe once someone invests his fund is completely non-refundable or am i missing anything regarding cryptocurrency ICO
ICO only refunds if they unable to get Softcap achievement!
And in no condition i'll believe Tachain is not gonna reach it (if not already!
Money back guarantees should be a promise to return the investment if they fails to launch their product!  

The soft cap was 2 million dollar and that has been already reached. So, the money people have invested won't be refunded.
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ROUND A of Sale] Ternion - hybrid crypto exchange with a fiat gateway on: November 11, 2018, 01:05:26 PM
Is the token price shown on ICOBench true?
According to ICOBench the pre-ICO price was 0.65 dollar and the ICO price is 3.23 dollar.
If that's true, I don't don't think any one is interested in buying tokens. There will be a big dump by those bought the tokens at pre-ICO.
Hi there! There is a lock up period for the pre-sale tokens that were bought at a big discount!

Giving 80 percent discount to that investors was not a good idea even if their tokens are locked for more than 1 year. There are some other ICOs give discounts to early investors. But not that much.
I intended to invest in the ICO. But mind changed.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 11, 2018, 11:14:39 AM
It is nice to get in again at nearly the top of the new page  Grin

Adab Haraam exchange = scam

Just think about it  for a moment. If the Adab Team cannot check the "purity of the source of the money" that investors send, or if the Adab Team cannot check the "moral standing of each investor" then they can continue to create their exchange but they should remove the word "Shariah".

Would you invest in an ICO for a Vegan cake baking company called "Vegan Cakes For All"? Sure why not if it is a good investment?

But if that "Vegan Cakes For All" company was using using cows milk in all of its Sponge Cake products and using pork fat in all of its Carrot Cake products then how can that company called itself "Vegan Cakes For All"? If they want to trade then remove the word "Vegan" and call yourself "Cakes For All" because they are lying and misleading and scamming therefore are thieves.

The moment they drop the word "Vegan" they seize being lying, misleading, scammers and thieves and become a legitimate business.

I hope you like the vegan-shariah analogy  Grin

This project will not be successful long term because the team behind it are inexperienced and out of their depth otherwise they would never have lied about it being Shariah compliant.

This project and thread is overrun with fake bounty managers such as 520bit AND whitetoo and Russian ROYALTEAM are using multiple accounts to flood threads to generate fake buzz and hype to impress gullible people and newbies hoping to fool them in to getting involved with the Adab Haraam exchange projects.

hello. I saw your post.

I agree with you.

If the project doesn't comply with the laws of Shariah, then this is a scam.

For Muslims transparency is very important.

I saw the news that ADAB has collected softcap, but why there is no reference to a smart contract anywhere?


Thank you for your post.

Yes you are right, this project is not complying with Shariah.

There is no reference to anything in their posts because the Kazakh trio behind this scam have used Russian bounty manager scammers 520bit, whitetoo and RoyalTeam to pump this thread with all sorts of lies and nonsense.

The Kazakhs have lost sight of reality and given the Russian bounty sock-puppet scammers a free hand to post what they like except the truth.

They updated the website (https://adabsolutions.com) and re-listed a known scammer Shohel Alam as their "ICO Advisor" again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043659.msg46883790#msg46883790)

They updated the website (https://adabsolutions.com) and re-listed Md-Mofassair-Hossain as their "Advisor Marketing and PR" again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg46531098#msg46531098)

They updated the website (https://adabsolutions.com) and changed the listing for Sulaiman Al-Fahim from "Advisor on Investment and Strategic Development" before.... and now he is their CSO and Co-Founder. Portsmouth Football Club in United Kingdom was another one of his "projects" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulaiman_Al-Fahim)

The whole thing is a scam. Simple. The first project where an "Advisor" at launch of the ICO becomes a Co-Founder weeks later. Pathetic.  Roll Eyes

Adab Haraam exchange = Big Scam

Why are you trying that hard to discourage people from investing in Adab? What is motivating you? Even if Adab is a scam, you have told your idea, why are you repeating several times? Why don't you focus on several other scam projects? Your behaviour is not normal.
Regards.

Disaimer: I am not Adab supporter. I am still studying about Adab. I am now neutral.
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ROUND A of Sale] Ternion - hybrid crypto exchange with a fiat gateway on: November 09, 2018, 10:42:25 PM
Is the token price shown on ICOBench true?
According to ICOBench the pre-ICO price was 0.65 dollar and the ICO price is 3.23 dollar.
If that's true, I don't don't think any one is interested in buying tokens. There will be a big dump by those bought the tokens at pre-ICO.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [preICO] Sudan Gold Coin - GOLD MINING WITH SG MINING CO on: November 09, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
why is the acquisition of funds not displayed on the site? this is very important for us,
step 1 ends 22 days or will it start in 22 days? I'm really confused

The ICO is now live and it will end on November 30.
I also couldn't find the amount of the money raised till now.
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✅[ANN - ICO LIVE] SGAT Platform for data storage, certification and traceability on: November 09, 2018, 10:23:23 PM
Have you already released an alpha version of SGAT MVP?

As far as I know, the alpha version of the platform is now available and you can test it on their website.
119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do You Believe that there is a crypto cartel suppressing the price of BTC? on: November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
It's completely impossible to find out if a cartel is determining the prices. But I personally think that a group of people are manipulating the prices. The big prices changes is not normal. Some people believe that the price fall from from 20000 dollar to 6000 dollar was normal. But I don't think so. Because I doubt go health of that price to 20000 dollar too.
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 09, 2018, 05:37:04 PM
This ADAB project thread is very interesting in my opinion, there is a debate between supporters of the ADAB project and which explains that this Project is a SCAM, I think the project team better displays the progress of their funding and shows their smart contract, this will be more convincing for people to invest.

Almost all of fuds are made by a certain user. This has really made me surprised. He/she also has used the signature for calling Adab a scam project. It's weird.
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