What is the forum for, what is the purpose of the forum? It's about sharing, about conversations, about gaining experience and answering questions, but if some people start living in the forum as if it were the metaverse, then it becomes problematic or I would worry about that person's psyche. The forum is great to spend some of your free time here, to make new acquaintances and to be able to talk to like-minded people, but if some are striving for a career in the forum, are online 24/7 (like addicting) and are also involved abuse the position they have gained in order to exercise that power, then it all becomes a problem. If you get so worked up that you racially insult groups or nationalities, insult your counterpart and agitate against him, even though he has been ignoring you for months, then that is pathological behavior.

No one should not neglect real life to get a certain rank in a forum or to get a "power". That is the explanation of my statement 

Nicht das ich Bitpanda verteidigen möchte aber man muss entgegenhalten, dass der einfache und unkomplizierte Zugang für Neulinge sehr wichtig ist und im deutschen Raum ist Bitpanda hier tatsächlich Vorreiter. Die Nutzung der Plattform ist sehr einfach und ich glaube, dass die hohen Gebühren gar nicht so schlimm sind. Bitpanda war und ist ein weiterer Schritt Richtung Massenakzeptanz bzw -adaptierung. Dennoch haben sie viele Punkte die zu verbessern sind.

I'm sorry but you're being used here by 1miau for his purposes. I am absolutely not in favor of the war, I have mentioned this several times. I live in Austria and I have already mentioned that I support the refugees both privately and professionally during my work. Just to give an example: I made sure that Ukrainian refugees with experience are included in our football team. But I won't go into detail about that because I value my privacy.

I already said at the beginning of the war that I would be in favor of Russia vs USA personally carrying out their conflict far away from any population that does not want anything to do with wars. Personally, I would be in favor of disarming the world, but yes..



edit: I would also like to give you an example from March 23rd, my post where I briefly comment the war at the end of the text, now I quote myself and translate it using google translate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386945.msg59621680#msg59621680

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I'd be totally fine with that, but it wouldn't produce the desired outcome for these trolls. I'm being accused of abusing the trust system because I objectively and well-foundedly rated a great helper positively, but the fact that 7 or 8 neutral trust entries (with untruths) are now left on me is not abuse.    Anyway, I don't care let the trolls do what they want, I don't read from them anymore  

In the meantime, the colleagues here have also understood who is on the wrong side and who is on the right side.

Have a nice evening everyone  

You‘re so right here. I don't care if I'm DT1 or DT2 or not, why I've written so much here is just because I didn't want to let all the lies and false accusations against me and our board stand. I'm mainly in the German area and everyone there knows that I'm not a shitposter including my BM and 1miau also knows that the majority is behind me, which is why he calls most of them are shitposters too. I've already repeated my offer 3 times, that the German community should decide, but he rejects it, so it's all pointless.

I have no interest in wasting your time (english community) unnecessarily with my long texts and I apologize for the inconvenience caused on my part, from now on Nestade is also on my ignore list, so I can't read his further troll attacks. If I have to comment on something, other highly respected colleagues are welcome to point it out to me, otherwise I won't get involved in any more trolls.

I wish everyone a nice evening, enjoy the time with your friends and families, the forum is not life

Lol, I've been in this forum since 2017 and I've been in a signature campaign that's paid in BTC for almost a year? According to your statement, I should have been inactive before 2021 -> please just look at my statistics and see for yourself.


I'm talking about the majority of the German community while 1miau is talking about you, himself and Nestade so I don't know if you believe what you are writing? Is there another long-standing member from the German area who shares your point of view?


Oh yes, that is very much a criticism of the BM. You accuse them of paying for shitposts, so Hhampuz, icopress, yahoo or darkstar aren't intelligent and competent enough to judge if the german section is shitposting but you are? Good to know what you think about our valued BM.




Horror only for those who couldn't deal with the opinions of others. And horror for our moderator because he constantly had to edit incorrect reports.


We all didn't get any benefit from the posts in the off-topic area, do you know whose posts are handsomely rewarded in his campaign? Exactly: 1miau



Everyone is allowed to spend their time on what they want? Hhampuz doesn't count off-topic posts and yet I've been in this area quite often and enjoyed writing posts. That should also be proof enough that I'm not in favor of the bounty in the forum?




Now we're increasing levels, now almost all Germans are evil 


If so, there should have been consequences for trolling by 1miau and nestade and you definitely don´t want that 


Whaaaat, man, I haven't used telegram for years now  Why are you lying like the others now? How often do I have to explain it, the internal chat function in the forum was meant. But yes, invent more lies: maybe we're all sitting around a campfire and drinking beer and already making the next evil plans 


If you don't do anything illegal, you don't need to be intimidated by anyone. Sure I'm appearing confident here, I know I'm telling the truth and it's been confirmed by many, but feel free to ignore it. 


Mole does a great job and doesn't try to push the conflicts any further. In the international section, trolls like 1miau or nestade would have been distrusted long ago for the behavior they show. Mole has been trying to end the conflicts neutrally for months, has asked everyone to use the ignore function several times, but 1miau and Nestade ignore this bravios.


I now take your tip to heart and put you on Distrust and recommend anyone who stands for decency, justice and fairness to distrust these trolls. As if it wasn't enough that they constantly attacked our members and now also called the entire German board shitposter, our moderator, who has always maintained neutrality, is also attacked. But the good thing is, now that the colleagues here can see how you actually tick.

~1miau
~bullrun2020bro
~Nestade


I've wasted enough time here, it's time to live more in real life instead of debunking the lies and accusations of trolls here.

Das ist sehr gut zu hören, wenigstens stellen sie nicht wie mehrfach gehört den Support und die Wartung der Nano S ein, das wäre ja aber auch sehr skandalös gewesen. Nun ist alles halb so schlimm und ich kann mir echt überlegen ob ich mir nicht die neue Version doch noch hole 

Die Frage ist aber in welchem Ausmaß du die bullische Struktur siehst? Wird diese Struktur nur kurzfristig bestehen (also für Trader) oder doch eher eine langfristige Trendumkehr verursachen (für Hodler). Ich glaube an keine bullische Phase im Sinne eines erneuten Bullenmarktes vor frühestens 2023 und somit auch keine bullischen Signale aktuell aber es kommt natürlich darauf an welche Zielgruppe du ansprechen möchtest. Kurzfristig könnte es natürlich für Trader interessant werden.

Reserviert für die Teilnehmerliste:

Liebe Community!

Ich kann es gar nicht glauben wie schnell die Zeit vergangen ist, bald ist 2023 und wir haben vor knappen 3 1/2 Jahren die Tipps im anderen Thread abgegeben und das Interesse damals war sehr groß mit 78 Teilnehmern im deutschen lokalen Bereich. Aus diesem Grund denke ich, dass es an der Zeit ist eine Prognose für den BTC Preis für 2026 abzugeben. Hierzu könnt ihr gerne oben bei der Umfrage teilnehmen und nun folgt das Gewinnspiel:

Diesmal würde ich es gerne noch spannender machen und biete hiermit 0.5 mBTC als Preis für die genauste Vorhersage an. Heute sind diese 0.5 mBTC ungefähr 10$ Wert (aktueller Kurs: $20,790.79) aber 2026 werden sie hoffentlich einen dreistelligen Wert haben  

Die Teilnahmeregeln sind sehr einfach:

• zu erraten ist der Preis für einen Bitcoin in $ am 01.01.2026 um 00:00:00 Uhr (coinmarketcap)
• Teilnahme pro Person (keine mehrfach Teilnahme durch mehrere Acc´s!) + 5 erhaltene Merit´s in den letzten 120 Tagen von zumindest 2 verschiedenen Personen und zumindest Member Rang
• Kein Distrust meinerseits & kein editieren oder erneutes Posten der Tippabgabe!
• Teilnehmer müssen vor dem 27.06.2022 bereits zumindest 1x im deutschen lokalen Bereich einen Post verfasst haben
• Dein Tipp muss bis am 30.09.2022 um 23:59 Uhr schriftlich (Posting) abgegeben werden (gerne mit Begründung aber keine Pflicht)
• Ich behalte mir das Recht vor User aus sittenwidrigen/moralischen Gründen aus dem Tippspiel auszuschließen
• ACHTUNG Ergänzung: Der/Die Gewinner/in hat bis 31.03.2026 Zeit seinen/ihren Preis abzuholen, sollte sich die Person bis dahin nicht melden wird der 2. Platz den Preis erhalten

Der Gewinner erhält (sofern keine außerhalb meiner Sphäre stehenden Hindernisse bestehen) die BTC in den ersten Wochen im Jahr 2026 auf die zu diesem Zeitpunkt am besten geeignete Art und Weise. Falls sich noch jemand am Pot beteiligen möchte kann er sich gerne melden.  


Viel Erfolg und Spaß wünsche ich euch beim Tippen  

Möge der höchste Tipper gewinnen!  


*self moderated thread

Ich denke auch schön langsam, dass wir den Boden hatten und viel weiter wird der Kurs nicht fallen aber für gewöhnlich sieht man den Boden nicht nur 1x sondern testet ihn noch ein paar weitere Male aus bevor der Kurs sich etwas nach oben erholt. Die 18/19k sollten wir also zumindest nochmal für ein paar Tage sehen bevor es auf 22-25k geht um dann in diesem Bereich für längere Zeit zu verweilen

I'm really starting to think that you don't understand me because of my articulation? These swear words are statements by 1miau and his colleagues that were used against us and I ask you if this is actually allowed in the forum? I don't think so, but you meant that swearing is allowed.

My statements have already been confirmed by 3 other Legendary/Hero's (MinoRaiola, thandie, s0nix) so I don't know if I'm really that wrong here.

I would also recommend a beer with the popcorn. 


@Yawa2020: I wonder if I can't express myself? I didn't threaten anyone with a ban (explained several times above) so please the next one who says ban again buys me a beer, without alcohol it's no longer bearable 



so it's allowed to insult others in the forum, e.g. if I told you now go and lick XY's ass or you're a pig or not a human, interesting that that's okay.

@sam00: Nächste Woche könntest du sogar aufsteigen und somit würde ein weiterer Platz bei Roobet frei werden. Der Kollege im Spreadsheet unter mir hat nun 2 Wochen in Folge nur wenige Posts geschrieben, könnte also sein, dass er aktuell keine Zeit und Lust hat. Augen auf  

//edit by mole: Beitrag doch wieder gekürzt.

We've pointed out the ignore function dozens of times, but instead of using it we've had neutral trust entries and threats that the accounts that post against their opinion will be reported in the reputation thread... Quite apart from that, we‘ve been insulted every day by these trolls. I don't know how many months 1miau has now been ignored by me and yet he still quotes me daily(!). He has no interest in making peace. Otherwise the problem would have been solved long ago, because I haven't reacted to his posts for months. Well, your suggestion is great, but unfortunately it doesn't work on one side as long as everyone else is still being attacked (and as I said, he’s on a lot of ignore lists and still attacks the persons).

I think all of my colleagues will agree that if 1miau and Nestade agree to ignore us all without ever mentioning us other again, the problem would be solved forever.
I don't know who they will be able to interact with afterwards (since they argue with pretty much everyone in the German community) but I don't care. 

My opinion for colleagues here:
All the people present here are my witnesses that I offered a fair deal and wanted to let the German community decide. All up from senior member rank with minimum 10 earned merits from 5 different people in the last 3 months (actually I meant the last 120 days) would have been entitled to vote, but 1miau decides independently who is a Shitposter on the German board and who is not, and it mainly depends on who represents his opinion and who represents an opposing opinion. He knows that he doesn't have a chance and therefore doesn't get involved in a democratic vote and counters again with his standard statement: All Shitposter. So let's make it clear: All members on the German board are for 1miau from the rank of senior (or higher) with <50 merits are shitposters. Does the English community really see it that way? My proposed solution was simple and, in my opinion, fair and difficult to manipulate.

I offered this deal even though 1miau distributes the most merits in the German area alongside qwk and therefore has very high decision-making powers as to who receives merits and who does not. Do I have to show more to prove he's lying?

I guarantee you that the majority of the German community doesn't share 1miau's view and that's why he calls them all shitposters. It's not just me and Poly, thandie and MinoRaiola have already spoken up in this thread alone and as I said, more colleagues will get in touch.
The group only meant our chat function in the forum and I don't know any of the colleagues from the German area personally from real life. Of course, attempts are again made to distract or manipulate by means of lies.

Just in the last few days, the following users were for 1miau Shitposter (because they have a different opinion): Unknown01 (me), thandie, MinoRaiola, s0nix, Poly#Crypto, Beobachter_90, Koal-84. So 7 persons from the German area who were all against his opinion have been called shitposters and only in the last few days, is that normal for you? Do you also call all those who don't represent your opinion shitposters? Do I have a wrong picture of our society and freedom of expression? Especially in a Bitcoin forum, freedom of expression should be valued very highly, whereby we don't insult others but 1miau and nestade constantly insult us with nasty swear words. They play down Nazis and insult all Russians (all russians are pigs and nazis and killers and so on..), although I am sure that a large part of Russians are against the war like we are!

1miau constantly claims that there are many people who are fed up with me but he doesn't want to get involved in a deal like the one described above, although he thinks I'm posting to get btc, which is also a false claim. As I said, I have already written posts from time to time without a signature and that I meet the minimum requirements and seeing this in the spreadsheet is also a lie, if you want to know more about it, you should look at the sheet and see immediately based on the last 10 weeks that I wrote an average of 24.3 posts per week and required were an average of 19 since the requirements have been lowered.

I don't quote or answer him because he's on ignore my ignore-list and will remain there




If you're going to quote, then do it correctly, without attempting to manipulate it, because the way you quote my statement puts it in a completely different light!

So in your opinion, an inactive account can appear out of nowhere with a newbie status and call other accounts swear words, tell them to move to Russia to eat Putin's ass and then make the worst accusations at the moderator? In my opinion definitely not, we haven't been on the forum for years to be insulted or defamed by any new trolling accounts.

But we all know that you don't think insults are bad, so it's understandable that you accept or even support the fact that a new account simply insults long-established members and attacks the moderator.


As I said, other colleagues from the German area will definitely be in touch in the coming days and then the colleagues from the English area will also see what kind of people 1miau and Nestade really are. It's not great to be insulted every day even though you actually ignore your counterpart now, I'm sick of being attacked by this trolls and liars!

Haha… okaay i‘m agressive and 1miau pretty much excludes 90% of the community from Sr. Member rank in my offer. so in the German board there are only maybe 10-15 persons who are not shitposters this is sad for us.. As I told you, my conditions are fair and most will agree that 10 merits from 5 people and Sr. member rank will be sufficient to qualify.

I'm busy right now and can't go into detail about the lies, but I'll make up for it in the next few days. I think it's best that a newbie account appears out of nowhere and is perfectly informed about all past events and even attacks mole... spectacular!

Argumente gegen die sie nichts liefern können Poly und dann müssen sie dich natürlich beschimpfen, weil es keinen anderen Ausweg gibt und das alles obwohl du sogar erwähnst, dass Putin auch zu denen die du verurteilst dazu gehört. Naja… hoffnungslos wie immer

@1miau: I'm just responding to the topic with my offer because I don't have time at the moment: I'll open a thread on the German board and we'll let it run for 1-2 months, everyone who is entitled can then cast their vote there and we'll count the votes after the runtime. The loser will not participate in any campaign for at least 6 months or until the other agrees. If you agree I'll get to work tomorrow or tuesday, there are no insults, no discussions there is only voting and no one is going to try to change the opionion of others with any claims, I think most of our community have heard everything?

We can then agree on the exact agreements/contract details afterwards, but the trust is not part of this (it's just that I'm a shitposter in your opinion and Mino is definitely not).

As already said, I didn't attack him in any way and anyone who speaks German can see that too. Even if you use the translator you can see that I didn't threaten anyone. So don't try to distract from the real problem with "1miau". In the next few days some more of our board will definitely comment on the problems and these will not be newbie accounts, they´ll be long-standing legendarys. I'm already looking forward to the feedback from mole0815 (moderator of german board), so that our English community can also see who is actually causing the problem.

My statement to Kamix in german was: "Irgendwie vermehren sich diese Newbie Accounts die aggressiv und beleidigend sind wie Parasiten im deutschen Bereich, sollte man eventuell mal tatsächlich theymos melden. Ich habe bereits eine Liste von allen verdächtigen Accounts - mache ich demnächst mal wirklich."

In english: Somehow the newbie accounts increase which are aggressive and abusive like a virus in the German area, I should actually report this acounts theymos. I already have a list of all suspicious accounts - I'll actually do that soon.

And whether theymos is interested or not isn't your decision, because you said before that it wasn't in his interest if I sent him a list.


1miau thinks it's funny that I know 6 accounts (all are longer than him registered in the forum) that have him on ignore. If I know 6 accounts, how many will there be that I don't know about? In the same breath, he proudly presents 2 accounts that are on his side (bullrun and Nestade). Funnily enough, at least 3 people have already reported here to defend me (all longer than 1miau in the forum and with a high rank). In the coming days, others will certainly have their say, let's just let the German community testify, if the majority defends me, then it's clear who's right and who's wrong, isn't it? But for 1miau, the majority of the German community are Shitposter anyway.

@1miau this is the first time I've writing to you since a long time: you are so sure that you are right, so here is my offer to you: I will put down my signature if more than 50% of the German established community (at least 10 merits in the last 3 months from 5 different people and at least senior member rank) support your view that your trust entry was justified and I'm a shitposter, but if more than 50% don't agree, then you put your signature down! Deal?

It seems to be a very fair deal and like in a democracy the majority decides, you're for democracy right?