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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 19, 2017, 10:52:34 AM
Futures mission accomplished

I can see people capital moving to other currencies if they keep pushing the price down eventually. Don't think they are that stupid... I think a correction is due since long tho
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2017, 01:49:42 AM
I think they are bots... when they see the price go down 1% they use some kind of bear protocol that throws random made up stuff and unlikely TAs. The kwuckduck protocol
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2017, 12:13:00 AM
Hmm looks like its going to be pretty boring this CME

Looks like the short is in. If you ask me.

Yep.. but there's almost no volume
84  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 18, 2017, 12:05:16 AM
Hmm looks like its going to be pretty boring this CME
85  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Bitcoin doesn't dip anymore  Cry

Think of a tsunami that ironically sucks the water all the way out first.

TERA every post you make reeks of some kind of bitterness? How many bitcoin's have you got? I’m going to guess less than 10 & you’re upset/angry/depressed about having the opportunity to be rich AF as you were in & around bitcoin early enough but sadly made the wrong decisions, sold early etc.

HODLERS who make shit loads of money don’t need to sell/trade constantly.

What’s your situation?
I'm so sick of this ignorant crap people post on trader forums. The things I say have nothing to do with my position or with emotion. It is simply the inevitable dynamic of an exponential market. Its a piece of physics like a rubber band or a ball bouncing. This is compeltely detached from me.

Theres GOING to be a crash of at least 60% at some point. I never called from where but it's going to happen, and it's going to be a spectacular trading opportunity. You can thank for me letting you in on it, if it only means you have more fiat on exchanges ready to buy it. If you deny this then you have no experience in bitcoin.

You have actively come into this thread since about $7k and saying the same fucking thing, and now the price is about 3x higher, and you still saying the same nonsense.....

Yeah, sure, sooner or later you are going to be correct... but your repetition of the same cyclical bitcoin price gonna crash nonsense, does not mean that you have any actual insight.

And because I want to add some vinegar to the open wound, I'd like to remember that a 60% crash means roughly 10k (which is what most of us expect I guess), VS the 'at least 3k' predicted initially
86  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 17, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Meh. I am not looking forward to go back to 10k. I am comfy here  Cry
87  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2017, 10:07:25 PM
As a horror fan this was always my wet dream tho


<< checks ebay
88  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2017, 09:44:13 PM
Is it an adoption curve then?  Shocked
Should I make the downpayment for a tesla?

order it delivered to Mars

^__^


I guess I should respect my heritage and go for a lambo then XD
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2017, 09:22:13 PM
Is it an adoption curve then?  Shocked
Should I make the downpayment for a tesla?
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2017, 12:22:22 AM
Bcashers are becoming more belligerant now that even ripple passed them SmileySmiley

BeeCash will never bee bitcoin :-D weeee ~ still fools are buying<<<<

Not really - every bloody altcoin is pumping except bcash despite personal pitches on tv
91  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 15, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Bcashers are becoming more belligerant now that even ripple passed them SmileySmiley
92  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2017, 07:00:07 PM
93  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 13, 2017, 01:12:26 PM

javier‏
@f_baco
 
Weeklychart BTCUSD
Possibly complete sequence of 5 (V) Main waves.
Wave5(secondary) =3.618% Wave 1
Breaking up the area of 18,000-18100 would stop being able to be measured in projections by Elliot Waves.
The trend should change and address 61.8% of the entire historical movement

I am yet to see an Elliott wave prediction come true Tongue
Well, except the ones from ML, but he expects us to go to 50k+ this wave
94  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 09:53:54 PM
I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.

And how many futures/ftes/bloomberg articles did you have in 2013/2014? :/
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: BETI: Bitcoin Exponential Trend Index and technical analysis on: December 12, 2017, 02:23:48 AM

Yes. I am wondering if it can be really applied now given that the basis since when BETI was made, audience and infrastructure were different. The pool of buyers was so limited it is not even comparable
Ideally, you would want to consider the amount of users coming in
EDIT to make my point more clear: let's assume in 2013 Satoshi decided to pay for a Super Bowl ad and a football world cup ad. 40 Million people joined MtGox buying at least 400$ worth of bitcoins each, rising the value to 4000$ (just throwing numbers here, sorry). Wouldn't BETI still consider it a bubble although fundamentals are correct?

Also, I don't get why in August/September 2013 (according to charts in p. 32) we had 0 or less BETI when we were clearly ahead (BETI expected ~30$ vs an actual of ~100$)

Sorry, but "[different]audience and infrastructure" is something uncomputable in drawing charts.
This thread is about a chart based on price and possible predictions thereof.

"Ideally, you would want to consider the amount of users coming in"
Please do (in a separate thread).

Just wanted to know if my concerns were correct (so I can account for a chance of BETI failing). Seems like chances are there, though I guess this can somehow be considered part of the log growth
96  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: December 12, 2017, 01:35:00 AM
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ексь, у нас последний higher low - 5900. Все что ударит ниже - плохо. 10000 вероятна по-прежнему. Ну вообще мы входим в зону жуткой волатильности. Цена будет ходить будь здоров. И вообще все это бесползено анализировать =)

Тройка идет. Охреневайте. Этим все сказано =)

Ах да, лайт попер. Не к добру.

Translation anyone?

eks, we last higher low - 5900. All that hit below - bad. 10,000 probably continue. Well, actually, we are entering a zone scary volatility. Price will be healthy to go. And in general all bespolzeno review =)

Troika is. Ohrenevayu. That says it all =)

Ah, yes, light pierced. NOT good.


*****

Higher low 5900, sub 10k continues, price will be healthier, something pierced, trendline?

He is concerned we did not test a new low, the last one we touched was 5900, I think he wanted to see a 10k retest (still, better to have a russian verifying what I said)
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: BETI: Bitcoin Exponential Trend Index and technical analysis on: December 12, 2017, 12:47:13 AM
Maybe it is a stupid question... But shouldn't BETI take into account the increasing market CAP?
I mean, volatility should decrease with the increase of MC (so even a bubble over 1.5 might become sustainable given enough cap)

What if this is the strongest move bitcoin has ever had? Should the volatility be less then?

Yes. I am wondering if it can be really applied now given that the basis since when BETI was made, audience and infrastructure were different. The pool of buyers was so limited it is not even comparable
Ideally, you would want to consider the amount of users coming in
EDIT to make my point more clear: let's assume in 2013 Satoshi decided to pay for a Super Bowl ad and a football world cup ad. 40 Million people joined MtGox buying at least 400$ worth of bitcoins each, rising the value to 4000$ (just throwing numbers here, sorry). Wouldn't BETI still consider it a bubble although fundamentals are correct?

Also, I don't get why in August/September 2013 (according to charts in p. 32) we had 0 or less BETI when we were clearly ahead (BETI expected ~30$ vs an actual of ~100$)
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2017, 12:23:08 AM
It’s not a shitty precious metal either that you can shovel out of the ground as soon as the price rises.

It looks like you have no understanding of the energy industry.  The only reason there was an enormous amount of metals being mined in the 20th century compared to all previous ones is because it was just a process of arbing excess energy that wasn't vital to keep nations running.  But now the energy industry as a whole has virtually given up funding to find new sources (maybe because they already took just about every low hanging fruit possible).  We are entering something resembling a Seneca cliff in the oil industry.

The only reason oil is plentiful right now in the US (and thus the price is low) is because enormous amounts of production increased lately that's almost entirely low grade shale/tar sand type stuff.  These alternative oil sources that are coming to market aren't even being done so at a profit.  They are losing money doing so.  How does it continue then?  There's lots of bad investment in the energy sector that has not toppled down and collapsed yet, but will because they are not making profits.  Or you can take the conspiracy route and think the US govt just prints money and gives it to them to subsidize the energy industry so it doesn't collapse (which is also possible since corporate welfare happens all the time).

Regardless, the era of having endless amounts of excess oil and energy to arb into bringing metals out of the ground is mostly over.  There will either be energy shortages from a Seneca cliff and no metals coming out of the ground, or energy prices will go to the moon, and since the price of oil makes up the vast majority of metals prices, metals go with them.  Here's a good chart to show the correlation of oil and metals.  Due to the bankers constantly naked shorting metals down to cost of production to try and suppress them and prop up the dollar, they act mostly as an energy futures contract until the global banker monopoly fix ends:

I am sure silver and gold will be worth a lot once Elon (or Virgin?) will make civilian space ships. I mean, gold and silver are so scarce in space.
99  Economy / Speculation / Re: BETI: Bitcoin Exponential Trend Index and technical analysis on: December 11, 2017, 11:49:58 PM
Maybe it is a stupid question... But shouldn't BETI take into account the increasing market CAP?
I mean, volatility should decrease with the increase of MC (so even a bubble over 1.5 might become sustainable given enough cap)
100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 01:01:38 PM
Are we bear free again?  Cool
The magics of derivatives!
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