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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.6%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.8%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15.8%)
$95K to $100K - 12 (15.8%)
>$100K - 37 (48.7%)
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December 12, 2017, 09:48:02 PM

WuVer coin soon will go FUBAR, will solve the issue once and for all.

There is "Bitcoin" et puis tout le reste.

It'll be integrated by Bitpay soon enough and then it's cemented forever. From that day on it'll be like an elderly man's penis in an opposing tower block that's flashed at you but you can do nothing about.

 Cheesy Since I live in a 16-th century city (micro) palace, there is zero chance for that to happen... .   Cool
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December 12, 2017, 09:49:16 PM

Remember when they used to laugh at us?

Now we laugh at them.  Grin
we have always laughed at them . it gives me  such a warm feeling watching there faces as the penny finally drops
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December 12, 2017, 09:49:29 PM

I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.
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December 12, 2017, 09:53:17 PM

Note: The above is a very, very bad way to think. Are there meditation techniques to fix this?

Yes, travel into your cave and find your power animal.
The first rule of Bitcoin Club is: you do not stop talking about Bitcoin Club.
The second rule of Bitcoin Club is: you DO NOT stop talking about Bitcoin Club!
Third rule of Bitcoin Club: Never stop hodling. Never yell “stop!”, go limp and tap out.
Fourth rule of Bitcoin Club: Never tell how many coins you are hodling.

Reading all the Bitcoin stories you guys have feel quite similar to mine.
I guess after 5 yrs in Bitcoin land I learned from Fight Club
1st RULE: You do not talk about Bitcoin.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about Bitcoin.
3rd RULE: You buy Bitcoin.


Dejà vu!
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December 12, 2017, 09:53:54 PM

I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.

And how many futures/ftes/bloomberg articles did you have in 2013/2014? :/
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December 12, 2017, 09:54:25 PM

I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.
i seriously doubt if alts would be going nuts if that was the case.
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December 12, 2017, 09:55:35 PM

Remember when they used to laugh at us?

Now we laugh at them.  Grin
we have always laughed at them . it gives me  such a warm feeling watching there faces as the penny finally drops

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December 12, 2017, 09:57:23 PM

I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.
i seriously doubt if alts would be going nuts if that was the case.

Id argue the opposite, if bitcoin is overvalued why would you buy btc? wouldn't you buy something not (as) overvalued?
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December 12, 2017, 09:58:26 PM

Or at might just build a neural network into it and after sufficient testing let the bot make its own decisions.

You looking for AI that gathers market data and makes predictions based on that? There are a few coming out, a few more others that make the claim, and a few with some ICOs.


I call Bitcoin Segwit Bitcoin Segwit, as it is a clearly descriptive, non-ambiguous term. I used to call it Bitcoin Segwit1x. However, with the demise of S2X, this disambiguation no longer adds any value.
And since no other coin uses Segwit, you can just call it Bitcoin. Because that's what it is.

bcash is what bitstamp and cryptopia called it. Maybe not anymore, but they did.
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December 12, 2017, 09:59:46 PM

I feel like we are in a bubble that is getting ready to pop. I can't believe that 2000%+ growth is reasonable or able to be sustained. I don't believe this is exponential part of the S curve, I've heard that in 2013 and 2014. We are well before exponential growth. I think the only reason we haven't popped is the futures.
i seriously doubt if alts would be going nuts if that was the case.

Id argue the opposite, if bitcoin is overvalued why would you buy btc? wouldn't you buy something not (as) overvalued?

Nothing to do with overvaluation - people want to avoid the regulation of futures. Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
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December 12, 2017, 10:07:35 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...
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December 12, 2017, 10:09:38 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation. On the plus side it might prevent outright collapse as well.
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December 12, 2017, 10:10:46 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation

And what does that mean?
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December 12, 2017, 10:11:36 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation

And what does that mean?

Well if they set a price people *may* elect to follow it.

Let’s hope not though
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December 12, 2017, 10:13:20 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation

And what does that mean?

Well if they set a price people *may* elect to follow it.

Why on earth would they do that?
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December 12, 2017, 10:16:30 PM

The futures are cash settled, they are just betting on bitcoin, not actually buying any. Personally I don't think it will have any effect on bitcoin at all.
Bitcoins price is set by supply and demand, and no cash settled futures can change that.
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December 12, 2017, 10:17:04 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation

And what does that mean?

Well if they set a price people *may* elect to follow it.

Why on earth would they do that?

As I said let’s hope not. It would tie in with a rush to alts though .
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December 12, 2017, 10:18:27 PM

Raoul posted the full story today, an absolutely must read for all... .

https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-the-full-story/
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December 12, 2017, 10:18:38 PM

The futures are cash settled, they are just betting on bitcoin, not acyually buying any. Personally I don't think it will have any effect on bitcoin at all.
Bitcoins price is set by supply and demand, and no cash settled futures can change that.

I agree, other then a vague idea of what people expect the growth to be I don't see how it would affect the price.
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December 12, 2017, 10:19:14 PM

Futures is restricting btc growth from now on
How so? Not that I disagree...

Setting an artificial benchmark for valuation

And what does that mean?

Well if they set a price people *may* elect to follow it.

Why on earth would they do that?

As I said let’s hope not. It would tie in with a rush to alts though .

I fail to see how alts ties in.
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