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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When do you predict coins will be stable again? on: May 24, 2018, 05:46:24 PM
In your opinion when do you predict alt coins will be stable again?
Many are saying that the price of the coins will be stable again at the middle of the year just what happened before, well that's just a theory. Nobody is still certain yet about it so we should just focus on our investment and wait till something good happens. Our demands matter so we should better keep on supporting different coins for our very own sake.
162  Economy / Economics / Re: Digital Money = Cashless Society on: May 24, 2018, 05:19:55 PM
It is said now China is a cashless society. Use of debit and credit cards in shops/stores, online pay bills, shopping online.

Money earned from the internet is known as digital/electronic money. People who earn money from the internet, they get paid money in electronic form by payment processors such as skrill, perfectmoney, alipay, paypal, bank-wire transfers because online workers are worldwide.

Last month, I got $20 from online surveys. The money was sent to my bank account via online payment processor. Now if I buy 2 shirts using debit cards at offline or online stores, there is no cash involved but I have 2 shirts.

Bitcoin is a part of digital money. How is digital money is your country ??
Time will come where nobody will be handling any cash anymore, they will all just be in their phone or any devices they are keeping their wallet and we won't be able to stop that. Bitcoin and other digital money is slowly digging into the world market right now and I think sooner or later, they will rule over the world and will replace all the fiats that are currently existing. Our country is slowly being eaten by that system.
163  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: May 24, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
why is it ok for a group of people calling themselves the government to force everyone to buy their services?
if enough armed people refused to pay and told the government to go fuck itself there is nothing they could do.
Taxes are not just a burden we are paying to the government. Most of the time, taxes are being used to improve the community. We cannot depend alone with the money the government is making to make our country excell. It is considered to be our help for our country to become more better but that will only happen if they are going to use it purposively.
164  Economy / Economics / Re: How do I get bitcoin? on: May 24, 2018, 04:28:12 PM
Its common question of most of people who want to get online currency. For purpose of getting bit coin we have work be more creative and innovative through our own work or creativeness.When we work as skill staff we can get so many online work after accomplishing this task perfectly we will get some virtual currency like bitcoin. After getting this currency there are so many way to dispense this currency or convert this currency from virtual currency to local or international currency.
For exchanging this cypto-currency to local or international currency we need different system like PayPal and others service providers.
There are plenty of ways on how you can get bitcoin. You can try buying it or trading. Another way is through bounties and gambling which are both risky but the stakes are high for both if ever you'll be successful with it. Always be smart on picking which way you are going to earn bitcoin and beware of scammers and frauds for they are everywhere.
165  Economy / Economics / Re: The market started looking green today. on: May 24, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
It appears the market started recovering today from one of the worse long-lasted corrections in bitcoin history.
The bitcoin now secure the 45% of the cryptocurrency market dominance. what you have to say about that?



Moments like that really happen and the best thing we can do over it is to keep on hoping that it would keep on getting better since there are still possibilities that it will turn red knowing that the market is a bit weird nowadays. We should make the most of that sudden pump and don't let it slip on our hands or else we'll all be regretting it in the end.
166  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people are still buying BTC? on: May 24, 2018, 03:51:20 PM
Hello guys,

To me, it seems pretty strange that people actually continues buying btc now...
I understood why they wanted to invest in btc before, after the Chyprus crisis, and all the articles in the media. But now?

I don't get it.


Bitcoin is useless, and will most likely never be used as a currency. I spent hours trying to get my first bitcoins (satoshi actually), and after working for ages, I only got 0.002 btc, which does not even allow me to proceed to a transaction (the fees are higherthan that amount  Roll Eyes ). When you compare it with CC or paypal, it seems that they are free to use in comparison! Not to mention the time required to actually proceed to a transaction which can be anything between 1 minute and ... 1 year (or more?).

The only possible reason I see people are buying btc is that they (truly) believe that the price will increase, and want to make more profit. I think that 99.99 % of the bitcoins exchanged are never withdrawn from the exchangers, and the people are only waiting to make some profits. What makes them believe that the price will rise? Because the amount of bitcoins is limited? Because lost coins can never be recovered? I have no clue.


An other problem is the "mining" part. Soon, the difficulty will increase, CPU and GPU mining will be useless. People will stop mining bitcoins and try LTC or something easy to get... The interest in btc will decrease.


Other issues:
- security. Not a single company was able to provide a "professional" service. Bitcoin-24 has a serious problem ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174600.0 ). Even mtgox was critized for the lags, problems with missing coins, money, delay, and so on ... The hacks are countless (you can see new topics about that every day ...).


I can't see anything positive about btc, and still can't get why people are buying it. Can any captain obvious explains? Thanks.
We can all say that bitcoin is in a big crisis nowadays but that is not stopping most of the people here. They all have a great faith and belief that bitcoin will get more better in the future that's why they are still buying plenty of it and waits patiently. Maybe their effort will be paid soon but there's also a possibility that it wouldn't be so let us just see what happens next.
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depending your future in bitcoin... on: May 24, 2018, 03:36:59 PM
I think bitcoin is really a good investment for now, but I don't think it is a good idea to put all your investment in bitcoin or crypto currencies since it is unpredictable and very risky to take. For me it's still better to start your own business than depend your future in bitcoin investment.

What do you think guys?
Bitcoin is a good way to earn money but that doesn't mean you should depend your whole life in it. Many people are already claiming that they can build a living with bitcoin alone and I hope they wouldn't regret it soon. It will still be a better idea if you are going to have a real and formal job together with bitcoin, in that way, you can assure a well secured living in the future.
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will silence its haters... on: May 24, 2018, 03:12:59 PM
we know that many people do not like the presence of Bitcoin,
Are you sure in the future people who hate Bitcoin will be silent and regret because of Bitcoin triumphs...  Grin
I am pretty sure that thing might happen sooner or later. A lot of people are criticizing bitcoin already just because of the things they are currently seeing on it. We cannot guarantee yet that things will keep on getting better for bitcoin but time may come that everything will be perfect and those who are currently bashing bitcoin will eat their words and regret their whole life.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Future of bitcoins on: May 24, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
In future will the banks be able to exchange bitcoins?
Now we are exchanging from traders...but when (if) the popularity of bitcoin increase a lot then the traders will not be able to exchange such amount of bitcoins...so what about the future of bitcoin?
I think some banks will survive in the future and will continue to exhange bitcoin but I think most of them will be gone as new and easier way of banking goes in the way. It is just normal to see some few changes happening in the world. We cannot guarantee that a thing would stay its way forever, something has to change to make things more better than before.
170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin down, what will happen? on: May 24, 2018, 02:46:29 PM
seeing bitcoin prices go down and up, I'm a bit frightened to buy bitcoin at the moment, I judge I could lose, do you think, whether bitcoin prices can continue to go down, or even rise high?
It is normal seeing bitcoin going down but the wrong thing we are usually doing is panicking after experiencing such unfortunate events. We should not tolerate that, we should instead focus on being patient and holding to our investments. A lot of things is happening in the market everyday but that doesn't necessarily mean we should be carefree, we should be more smart about it.
171  Economy / Economics / Re: Study says being rich is determined by chance rather than intelligence or talent on: May 17, 2018, 05:20:30 PM
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If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich? Turns out it’s just chance

The most successful people are not the most talented, just the luckiest, a new computer model of wealth creation confirms. Taking that into account can maximize return on many kinds of investment.

The distribution of wealth follows a well-known pattern sometimes called an 80:20 rule: 80 percent of the wealth is owned by 20 percent of the people. Indeed, a report last year concluded that just eight men had a total wealth equivalent to that of the world’s poorest 3.8 billion people.

This seems to occur in all societies at all scales. It is a well-studied pattern called a power law that crops up in a wide range of social phenomena. But the distribution of wealth is among the most controversial because of the issues it raises about fairness and merit. Why should so few people have so much wealth?

The conventional answer is that we live in a meritocracy in which people are rewarded for their talent, intelligence, effort, and so on. Over time, many people think, this translates into the wealth distribution that we observe, although a healthy dose of luck can play a role.

But there is a problem with this idea: while wealth distribution follows a power law, the distribution of human skills generally follows a normal distribution that is symmetric about an average value. For example, intelligence, as measured by IQ tests, follows this pattern. Average IQ is 100, but nobody has an IQ of 1,000 or 10,000.

The same is true of effort, as measured by hours worked. Some people work more hours than average and some work less, but nobody works a billion times more hours than anybody else.

And yet when it comes to the rewards for this work, some people do have billions of times more wealth than other people. What’s more, numerous studies have shown that the wealthiest people are generally not the most talented by other measures.

What factors, then, determine how individuals become wealthy? Could it be that chance plays a bigger role than anybody expected? And how can these factors, whatever they are, be exploited to make the world a better and fairer place
?

Today we get an answer thanks to the work of Alessandro Pluchino at the University of Catania in Italy and a couple of colleagues. These guys have created a computer model of human talent and the way people use it to exploit opportunities in life. The model allows the team to study the role of chance in this process.

The results are something of an eye-opener. Their simulations accurately reproduce the wealth distribution in the real world. But the wealthiest individuals are not the most talented (although they must have a certain level of talent). They are the luckiest. And this has significant implications for the way societies can optimize the returns they get for investments in everything from business to science.

Pluchino and co’s model is straightforward. It consists of N people, each with a certain level of talent (skill, intelligence, ability, and so on). This talent is distributed normally around some average level, with some standard deviation. So some people are more talented than average and some are less so, but nobody is orders of magnitude more talented than anybody else.

This is the same kind of distribution seen for various human skills, or even characteristics like height or weight. Some people are taller or smaller than average, but nobody is the size of an ant or a skyscraper. Indeed, we are all quite similar
.

The computer model charts each individual through a working life of 40 years. During this time, the individuals experience lucky events that they can exploit to increase their wealth if they are talented enough.

However, they also experience unlucky events that reduce their wealth. These events occur at random.

At the end of the 40 years, Pluchino and co rank the individuals by wealth and study the characteristics of the most successful. They also calculate the wealth distribution. They then repeat the simulation many times to check the robustness of the outcome.

When the team rank individuals by wealth, the distribution is exactly like that seen in real-world societies. “The ‘80-20’ rule is respected, since 80 percent of the population owns only 20 percent of the total capital, while the remaining 20 percent owns 80 percent of the same capital,” report Pluchino and co.

That may not be surprising or unfair if the wealthiest 20 percent turn out to be the most talented. But that isn’t what happens. The wealthiest individuals are typically not the most talented or anywhere near it. “The maximum success never coincides with the maximum talent, and vice-versa,” say the researchers.

So if not talent, what other factor causes this skewed wealth distribution? “Our simulation clearly shows that such a factor is just pure luck,” say Pluchino and co.

The team shows this by ranking individuals according to the number of lucky and unlucky events they experience throughout their 40-year careers. “It is evident that the most successful individuals are also the luckiest ones,” they say. “And the less successful individuals are also the unluckiest ones.”

That has significant implications for society. What is the most effective strategy for exploiting the role luck plays in success?

Pluchino and co study this from the point of view of science research funding, an issue clearly close to their hearts. Funding agencies the world over are interested in maximizing their return on investment in the scientific world. Indeed, the European Research Council recently invested $1.7 million in a program to study serendipity—the role of luck in scientific discovery—and how it can be exploited to improve funding outcomes.

It turns out that Pluchino and co are well set to answer this question. They use their model to explore different kinds of funding models to see which produce the best returns when luck is taken into account.

The team studied three models, in which research funding is distributed equally to all scientists; distributed randomly to a subset of scientists; or given preferentially to those who have been most successful in the past. Which of these is the best strategy?

The strategy that delivers the best returns, it turns out, is to divide the funding equally among all researchers. And the second- and third-best strategies involve distributing it at random to 10 or 20 percent of scientists.

In these cases, the researchers are best able to take advantage of the serendipitous discoveries they make from time to time. In hindsight, it is obvious that the fact a scientist has made an important chance discovery in the past does not mean he or she is more likely to make one in the future.

A similar approach could also be applied to investment in other kinds of enterprises, such as small or large businesses, tech startups, education that increases talent, or even the creation of random lucky events.

Clearly, more work is needed here. What are we waiting for?

Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1802.07068 : Talent vs. Luck: The Role of Randomness in Success and Failure

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610395/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chance/

A very interesting spin on anything that has ever been said about money, success or wealth!

I don't know what to think about this. The scaling argument which says 1% of the human population shouldn't own 40% of the world's wealth due to them not having IQ's of 200,000 or talent proportional to the highly disproportionate stake of wealth they control is something that will take time for me to digest and think about. Its certainly a novel concept.

Its also very interesting that they attempted to model along lines of standard deviation and wound up with a historical 20/80 wealth distribution. I think this is something which could use more exposure and media coverage. Its not often relatively original or new perspectives like this come along and the paradigm shift which can accompany them can often take decades to be fully appreciated within a pop culture vein.
I agree. When I was just starting here in bitcoin, fortune was very far away from me. I always end up joining scam bounties leading for a worthless hardwork. Though that's what happened, I kept on going. I know that time will come and destiny will lead me to a great profit until it finaly happened. Amidst all the hardwork and intellegence I have, chance still is the one who says what will happen to you.
172  Economy / Economics / Re: The HODL strategy is not actual on: May 17, 2018, 05:03:46 PM
This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
We all have different views about the hodl strategy. Some people may think that its dead or not effective anymore but for me, I still know that everthing that I am currently holding will be worth when the time comes that its price is good already. Patience will surely bring us more good things so let us just wait and keep on believing on the hodl strategy.
173  Economy / Economics / Re: Is NOW the best time to buy or enter in bitcoin? on: May 17, 2018, 04:42:06 PM
Bitcoin prices plunged from $4900 to $3300 withing pan of few days. Now some news-points from bitcoin world are claiming this price plunge was planned. Check following links:

https://news.bitcoin.com/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/
http://btc-flow.in/2017/09/16/after-the-boss-calls-bitcoin-a-fraud-jp-morgan-buys-the-dip/

Now without going into whether above claims are true or not, my concern is "Isn't this is the right time to enter the bitcoin market or purchase few more". There is definite signs of improvement in the bitcoin price market. Current price is around $3757. It is quite possible to see bitcoin back to 4k to 5k or more. Given biggest players from finance sector are eying this lucrative market.
What do you think, is this is right time to buy some more bitcoins or wait and watch?

For me yes, if you are going to keep on waiting, you will only end up regretting the whole thing. The value of bitcoin is very low compared to its value last year and I think we should consider that as a great opportunity to enter and invest on bitcoin so that when its value rises once again, you will gain a lot of benefit and advantages over those who bought bitcoin at a high price.
174  Economy / Economics / Re: Does this mean Cash will be extinct? on: May 17, 2018, 04:31:41 PM
Sweden is contemplating to stop using cash by 2023, does this mean cash might be extinct if other countries follow suit?

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/sweden-could-stop-using-cash-by-2023?utm_content=buffer40bef&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
I don't think it is happening very soon. Maybe it is possible knowing that there's a chance that bitcoin will replace banks and physical money for everyone's convenience and good. We should still appreciate cash even though bitcoin is now slowly growing, we should support it still since it is somehow doing great with bitcoin nowadays.
175  Economy / Economics / Re: surprise 2018 on: May 17, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
OMG! btc prices continue to decline, most likely the price of other coins also decreased.
we need improvement in the face of this situation.
in my opinion 2018 really a lot of surprises.
Bitcoin had a rough start this year but we should first remember what it happened last year with it. Crisis grown so much as China banned bitcoin within their territory leading to a massive dump but all of a sudden, after its long recovery, bitcoin's value surprisingly went to the moon. We can still expect the same thing this year, let us just keep on holding on to it.
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin is Different From Other Currencies? on: May 17, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
Bitcoin is a digital currency that was created by Satoshi Nakamoto in 2009.It is created electronically and impossible to control it.This currency are not printed currency like dollars or euros.Running computer all around the world are producing it.Owing to this reason they are different from other currencies.
Bitcoin has a lot of differences with other currencies we have in the world right now. It has its own uniqueness and everyone else are dying to try investing on it. Its value is very volatile which means it sometimes rises and sometimes falls. Bitcoin also is a decentralized currency which means no man or organization is ruling over it.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Most cryptocurrencies will crash to zero on: May 17, 2018, 03:47:09 PM
As quoted from CNBC there is a cryptocurrency will be zero.

What do you think ?

From :

https://www. cnbc. com/2018/02/07/most-cryptocurrencies-will-crash-to-zero-goldman-sachs-says.html
That is very possible to happen knowing that some coins are dying slowly as it gets ignored in the market while other coins are being more prioritized. We should be careful in choosing which coin are we going to invest to so that we can avoid disappointments and regrets if ever the coin we've chosen is near to its extinction.
178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are banks and governments scared of Bitcoin? on: May 17, 2018, 03:19:26 PM
So many countries now were prohibiting the use of virtual cryptocurrencies. And to think that many unemployed individuals were beginning to uplift their way of living because of their dealings with cryptocurrencies. Banks doesn't expressly say why it is banning the use of Bitcoin.
What do you think is the reason behind this?
Bitcoin can do a lot of things and it can even replace the government and banks by performing more better. It is slowly growing and entering the world market and as time passes by, its valus grows higher and higher attracting more investors which will sooner help for its expansion. Governments and banks are threatened on what bitcoin can do to the world in the future.
179  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop Listening To False News... on: May 17, 2018, 03:05:06 PM
The current "crash" is caused by one bad "news" after another. A lot of them are the false or twisted truth.

For example, today, once again "China Full ban crypto". What the... Why is it causing another crash?? Why is it even "news"?

It was already banned in China back in September 2017. All trading platforms suspended trading in September. Anyone from China who still trade Crypto must be using foreign platforms. Sure, they reported that China added all crypto exchange sites to Great FireWall. So what? These people have VPNs! When I was in China, everyone who visits foreign sites use VPNs. Yes, China banned VPN as well a long time ago. So what? Everyone is still using it. Just like ignoring the traffic light is illegal in China, but at every intersection, you will see people ignore the red lights... the truth! Just because it is "illegal", does not mean no one will do it.

So just this (one) news of China banned Crypto, it was repeatedly used to crash the Crypto market (4 or 5 times). Do not fall for it!
1. Summer 2017, China banned ICO.
2. September 2017, China banned crypto trading.
3. November or December? China became unfriendly to crypto mining (Large-scale miners moved oversea already)
4. January 2018. China banned websites of foreign crypto exchanges. (VPN!!!)
5. Today, "China Full Ban Crypto"... (Really?)

So what is next?
"China really ban crypto"?
"China really full ban crypto"?
"China really really full ban crypto"[​IMG]
"China will jail anyone who trades crypto"[​IMG]
"China will execute anyone who trades crypto"?
"China will nuke every country who trade crypto"[​IMG]??


Stop spreading this nonsense. What's done was already done in September 2017. Nothing has changed ever since. NOTHING really changed in the last 4~5 months.

Yellow journalism at its best.


Same goes for Korean and Indian news. South Korea did not really ban crypto. Just one guy wanted to ban it. It was not approved, nor implemented. So far they have only added regulations that people can no longer trade anonymously. So what? Didn't Coinbase, Kraken, Bittrex etc. US-based platforms all require our IDs and photos?

India also did not ban crypto. Just a minister made some unfriendly speech toward crypto. No real "ban" whatsoever.

From the look of it, someone or some groups are trying hard to make the prices go down. The sad thing is, people are falling for it. The same China "news" was used on 5 occasions to cause the market crash while nothing was really changed or happened. Korean news was used on at least 2 occasions.

The bottom line is, let's just ignore all the stupid "news". Use our brains. Not hearsay from yellow journalism. It is getting annoying to have every little "news" to impact the market price.
Any news can be made up by someone and it is our responsibility to find a reliable source of a certain news. You cannot easily believe anything bitcoin is saying, it might lead you to a messed up result. Always be careful and smart on choosing what and who to believe or else it will surely affect you slowly even without you noticing it.
180  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best wallet for bitcoin? on: May 17, 2018, 02:55:17 PM
I am looking for the best bitcoin wallet.

What do you recommend guys?
We all know how hard it is to earn bitcoin here so we are obligated to find a good wallet to store all that we worked for. Here in our country, there's only one trusted wallet for me, it is coins.ph. Now, bitcoin is not the only one you can store on it, you can also store your ethereum on it. It is trusted and proven that coins.ph is the best wallet here in the Philippines.
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