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1761  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:59:27 PM
refresh your page! LOL
1762  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:56:31 PM
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1763  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 19, 2016, 07:45:16 PM
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1764  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Lucky coin Idea on: July 19, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
Sadly I will have to withdraw from spot 8.

Thanks in advance

Viz
1765  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] One Sealed Box Of Genesis Series 2 Coins on: July 18, 2016, 07:22:51 PM
0.01BTC

Gimme some #33.

#33 polished Gold by any chance?
1766  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction] x20 Crypto Imperator 2014 10.000 Bits Coins on: July 17, 2016, 05:23:18 PM
Here we go Smiley

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1767  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 17, 2016, 10:55:44 AM
..snip (WoT)

I agree it boils down to two categories of factors (with numerous variables):

1. The assembly process

2. the holograms themselves were slightly made different in production in terms of quality consistency etc.

If I had to guess it sounds more like an aging process of the coins as I remember opening up my roll when I initially got them and never saw one of those dots until many months later.

This is my own personal experience with the coins I am sharing and am in no way claiming to be an expert at all. All I can do is speak from my experience with Mike's coins as well as my experience with dealing with holograms on my own coins that are months and years old which have not had that issue.

Obviously something is different, what that is to me is a mystery thus far.

It will be interesting to see then, in the coming months and years ahead, how Holo's generally fair across the range of physical coins that were subsequently made after Mike made the process public.

The variables are indeed many and hopefully, as time moves on, there will be a or some common factors arising that may enable a clearer idea of what is causing these issues Smiley

1768  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 17, 2016, 08:43:57 AM
When watching a video of Mike making the coins once, I saw bare hands/fingers being used to place the Holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NyzDY7NUOo
^^
your answer?

Seems the manufacturing process was NOT sterile - Note the upload date. Use this as a reference for coins where the holo is at issue. Coins around this period included ?


QUOTE
A short clip of applying holograms to Casascius physical bitcoins. Helpers are placing private keys from a jar onto the coins and also peeling the holograms onto transfer tape. Another helper puts the coins on a flatbed scanner for later identification and funding."

Thats a LOT of handling....

People have been so focussed on the Slabs and capsules yet it seems sensible to wind back to the very start of the creation process and look for early issues.
To the point that a coin has even yet to be struck. How were the blanks handled? How were they moved around? How many hands/fingers touched them throughout the lifecycle of creation? etc etc. Think like that and I believe you will find you answers far faster

No disrespect to Mike in any way, but he wasn't the Royal Mint. I would describe the process of his creating coins as semi pro hobby craft in the early days. Issues would easily creep in as appears to be the case with the early coins and their holos.



If this was the case for his 2013 silver coins then there would be noticeable finger prints on the coins which there werent.

When dealing with silver coins it is difficult to apply the entire process without adding finger prints to the silver coins without using gloves.

Brass not so much (even though I tend to use gloves for those as well).

It would seem the finger print issue is not the cause of it as it would be obviously visible on the surface of his silver coins from 2013.

I covered the Silvers above by acknowledging that they appear to have marked a change in process of manufacture. However, manual handling of the Priv key AND the holo,  by multiple persons, appears NOT to have changed (Mike can clarify?). So even if the Silver coins are treated and handled with utmost care AND with gloves, the keys and holos were not, ergo the perfect entry point for chemicals.
If two persons body grease/sweat mix it can create additional chemicals which can have a noticeable impact. This is well known.

In light of the video itself, I believe there's now compelling evidence indicating that the manual elements of production are a very likely contender for being the cause of the issues currently being faced by Coin owners.

Again, I think Mike is probably the one best placed to highlight production issues of the time.

What  was the humidity in the room like?
Room Temperature?
Were people hot/warm/cold while working?
Had the room been recently decorated?
Had anyone had pizza that day, afternoon, evening? (you get the idea)


There are so many variables possible during production that, if you have satisfied yourselves that the slabs absolutely cannot be the issue, then by axiom the creation process MUST play a more significant part in the investigation.

Currently, all evidence points to production as the weak point and most likely cause of dots and spotting. It may be the Holos themselves at the point of THEIR manufacture.
Am I correct in thinking that the paper used for priv keys was removed from the list of culprits?
Viz
1769  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 16, 2016, 10:47:36 PM
The manufacture of Silver coins appears to mark a change in some of the processes as Mike clearly didn't want blemishes on the nice shiny silver coins. As such, manufacturing appears to have had a more thoughtful sequence where handling is concerned and the related issues would have been mitigated by gloves and better processes. Maybe Mike could qualify the above?

Just my 2 cents
1770  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Casascius hologram issue on: July 16, 2016, 10:10:36 PM
When watching a video of Mike making the coins once, I saw bare hands/fingers being used to place the Holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NyzDY7NUOo
^^
your answer?

Seems the manufacturing process was NOT sterile - Note the upload date. Use this as a reference for coins where the holo is at issue. Coins around this period included ?


QUOTE
A short clip of applying holograms to Casascius physical bitcoins. Helpers are placing private keys from a jar onto the coins and also peeling the holograms onto transfer tape. Another helper puts the coins on a flatbed scanner for later identification and funding."

Thats a LOT of handling....

People have been so focussed on the Slabs and capsules yet it seems sensible to wind back to the very start of the creation process and look for early issues.
To the point that a coin has even yet to be struck. How were the blanks handled? How were they moved around? How many hands/fingers touched them throughout the lifecycle of creation? etc etc. Think like that and I believe you will find you answers far faster

No disrespect to Mike in any way, but he wasn't the Royal Mint. I would describe the process of his creating coins as semi pro hobby craft in the early days. Issues would easily creep in as appears to be the case with the early coins and their holos.


1771  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] 1 BTC Casascius 2011 Error Coin cgs88 (MS65-MS66) on: July 16, 2016, 09:14:51 PM
Whereabouts in UK are you?

I ask as it seems wise to get an independent viewer to confirm the status.

I would be happy to help out if you're nearby or reachable without too much grief.

That or someone else reputable could possibly help out.

Just a thought

Viz
1772  Other / Archival / Re: . on: July 16, 2016, 05:18:49 PM
Paperback?  YES
Signed by?  Elianite / Elias
cheers
Viz
Thanks
Thanks MJ

1773  Other / Archival / Re: . on: July 16, 2016, 05:08:29 PM
Paperback?
Signed by?
cheers

Viz
1774  Economy / Collectibles / Re: ★ Digis Coin Emporium ★ -= Ravenbit, Mint Brass Lealanas, Gox Coins =- on: July 16, 2016, 03:49:20 PM
Just bought two more of the Ravenbit Brass Node coins Smiley

digicoinuser is one of the best sellers on here!!!!! Hands down, buy his stuff. BTCBTCBTC

Have to agree, flawless service and great products Smiley

10/10
1775  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] - Autographs for the Encyclopedia of Physical Bitcoins on: July 14, 2016, 12:38:46 AM
the remaining 10 or so loose sets to be sold by me as auction or sales.

can I take this to mean that I can buy a set of autographs for the copy of the encyclopedia I bought through supporting the World IDkit?

If so that would make me very happy

Viz

Yes, that is possible.
And thank you for supporting the project!

No problem Smiley Was a pleasure to help, great project and David is a great guy.
1776  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2015 Kialara Original Gold (77G) - less than 24 hour auction on: July 14, 2016, 12:28:08 AM
I'm out Smiley enjoy Smiley
1777  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2015 Kialara Original Gold (77G) - less than 24 hour auction on: July 14, 2016, 12:14:34 AM
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1778  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2015 Kialara Original Gold (77G) - less than 24 hour auction on: July 14, 2016, 12:12:11 AM
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1779  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2015 Kialara Original Gold (77G) - less than 24 hour auction on: July 14, 2016, 12:08:00 AM
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1780  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] 2015 Kialara Original Gold (77G) - less than 24 hour auction on: July 13, 2016, 11:58:31 PM
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