@burnin, I would like to know is Bitburner xx is going to get EU country of origin certificate and also confirmation of final price for product. Thanks for reply.
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To be certain only burnin can answer this question is there going to be new 10 chips PCB version or same one will be used. I can buy 15 chips more from zefir and I'm not sure if it is possible for a 20 chip board to work with only 15 chips placed on it. Basically Im asking if it can work underpopulated and add later 5 chips more.
I won't do partial assembly, either 10 or 20. Assembly cost can be paid in BTC or Eur. (Paypal, Wire Transfer) Expect about 80 Eur assembly cost per module (that doesn't include chip cost). For The 20 Chip Module expect about 100 Eur.
There will be the following order options: 1. Completed 10 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution 2. Completed 20 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution 3. Bare bones assembled 10 or 20 Chip PCBs for the DIY folks 4. Empty 10 or 20 Chip boards for hard-core DIY (If you ordered chips from Zefir i can send them together with the boards)
Ordering will be done through an dedicated website that is not up yet. I'll announce the launch through my email newsletter.
Edit - added But the material used isnt the main factor. The main factor is time and the price of production. Producing a small number of different pcb's wont bring an advantage. Its maybe the same price then. So its better to use the same pcb, get a lower price for producing it and populate it only with half the chips. And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.
I agree on that one and I was thinking on space wasted on PCB.
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and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80 I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chips version. That is your assumption. Two type of boards were planed to be developed, and so far 20 chips version is finished. It is unsure is there going to be 10 chips version. From perspective of economy and material used it would be strange to use same board and than populate it with only half of it's chips capacity. For the production, such a board would be waste of space, so design should be different. burnin said somewhere these boards will be 20 chip only, and for me OP is quite clear on that having in mind burnin doesn't offer chip sales.
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and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
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Changed that dammed chip and: SUCCESS!YAY! What a guy you are Martin. And also we shouldn't forget the Yifu and his crew for making their design available for modding, so thank you all guys. Long live Bitcoin and bitcoin community!
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awesome update! Can someone confirm this one will do for 15 modules http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/silent-pro-m2/silent-pro-m2-720w.htmlInput Voltage 90-264Vac (Auto Range) Input Current 11 – 5.5A Input Frequency Range 47 - 63Hz PFC Active PFC (>0.9) Power Good Signal 100-500ms Hold Up Time >17ms Efficiency 85% Typically MTBF 100,000 Hours Protection OVP/UVP/OCP/OPP/OTP/SCP Output Capacity 720W Operation Temperature 0~40°C (Nominal Input Voltage) Regulatory TUV / CE / UL / FCC / BSMI / GOST / C-tick / KC / CCC Fan 135mm Hydraulic Dynamic Bearings Certifications 80 Plus Bronze Connector M/B 24 Pin Connector x 1 CPU 4+4 Pin x 1 PCI-E 6+2 Pin x 4 SATA x 9 4 Pin Peripheral x 5 4 Pin Floppy x 1 Thanks. Theoretically it is sufficient, but its at the limit particularly regarding to the efficiency. I would suggest the next size that is >= 850 W. The 720 W also has no buffer for possible overclocking. But even without overclocking I would suggest a larger one. should work fine, as it is labeld with 720 w it will also provide 720W but will use propably more then 800w But for overclocking I would not suggest this product. At first I don't plan to overclock so it should be fine Thanks for replies.
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Just a quick status update: Bringing a prototype like that takes its time, thank you all for your patience. I verified most of the functions now, and there were some changes that will find their way into the next revision Hit some problems with the quarz clocking the micro, it would not always start to resonate, so I changed it to an Oscillator. Power supplies - all working as expected ASIC Upstream - working, stable ASIC downstream - unstable, investigating USB Connection - working core voltage adjustment - working CAN-BUS - in development Temperature/Voltage sensing - in development I had it hashing for a bit but the return interface for the nonce is not working stable at the moment. (about 10% HW errors) I know whats causing the issues, have to change a part to get rid of them. (in the mail for Tuesday) Power consumption at 5.1Ghash - ~36Wattsawesome update! Can someone confirm this one will do for 15 modules http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/silent-pro-m2/silent-pro-m2-720w.htmlInput Voltage 90-264Vac (Auto Range) Input Current 11 – 5.5A Input Frequency Range 47 - 63Hz PFC Active PFC (>0.9) Power Good Signal 100-500ms Hold Up Time >17ms Efficiency 85% Typically MTBF 100,000 Hours Protection OVP/UVP/OCP/OPP/OTP/SCP Output Capacity 720W Operation Temperature 0~40°C (Nominal Input Voltage) Regulatory TUV / CE / UL / FCC / BSMI / GOST / C-tick / KC / CCC Fan 135mm Hydraulic Dynamic Bearings Certifications 80 Plus Bronze Connector M/B 24 Pin Connector x 1 CPU 4+4 Pin x 1 PCI-E 6+2 Pin x 4 SATA x 9 4 Pin Peripheral x 5 4 Pin Floppy x 1 Thanks.
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Be careful what you wish for, it might become true.I am literally DEAD now, I need sleep. But the first tests show all power supplies working as expected, no magic smoke escaping, and thats what electronics is all about. <--------is speechless
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Hopefully burnin receives the Printed Circuit Boards soon.
You want PCB, you GET PCB!Gold plated swag! <----- is so excited, and happily saving pictures to his local storage
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Looking at the very title of this thread, it looks credible and OP add to its credit rating so at the end it appears rock solid. Real business model blueprint! <----- is checking his wallet .... damn, I spent all on time traveling machine!
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I feel like I am waiting for messiah to show up, and not some list with few names and numbers on it
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Ok, so I won
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As long as more than one buyer is of the opinion that chips from early batches are worth it... Yes, that one too
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I have an order in batch #5, and need 6 more chips to complete the miner. Is there someone who is willing to sell me those six chips? Batch # is not important to me, of course, and I'll pay more (0.1BTC per chip) and be very grateful.
I think you can buy those chips here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242267.0;allThanks. 0.14 per chip... oh boy, those prices have really gone up. that is greedy part of bitcoin story, but what can we do
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I have an order in batch #5, and need 6 more chips to complete the miner. Is there someone who is willing to sell me those six chips? Batch # is not important to me, of course, and I'll pay more (0.1BTC per chip) and be very grateful.
I think you can buy those chips here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242267.0;all
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Hi,
I see you have uneven number of chips and probably few samples as well. To fulfill my target number of chips I need just 1 (one) chip more, and I can't bid in BTC since I am little short (only 0.0288 currently in my wallet). If you allow me I could bid in BTC and pay PayPal what ever stock you choose avarage/premium at the end of auction. There is thread in my signature where I try to buy that one last chip so you can check. Yesterday I bought 2 with help of robix.
Please consider it, or in case you didn't sell or give away your sample chips, consider to sell them off in transaction apart from this auction. Thank you for your time and excuse me if I proposed something out of line.
Regards,
tiros
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I have 2 sample chips from batch 3 available. They are in Sebastians hands in the moment. I would give them to you for 0.15 BTC both. If you are interested we have to arrange it with Sebastian.
Payment sent, tip included. Transaction ID: 448e3c5e4b4e92ab6dd506dfacd7a99f1cff97e0c31411c3163d31df40f3cbad Thank you bro, you really helped me. Now I need one chip more. Thread title changed from [WTB] 3 chips to [WTB] 1 chip.
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Sorry but I need them, and would need only 1 after this. I hope someone will step up and help you like robix helped me.
You were first. Maybe someone else also has a few chips to spare. Good luck! Thank you and good luck to you in finding them. I managed to do it once I put this thread open and change my signature to point to this thread. Try it and I think there will be always good guys like robix is who would like to help his fellow miner.
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Overall Project status: Done some more work on the Firmware, it now works flawlessly with cgminer.[/b] The Prototype will not arrive until mid week due to problems with my manufacturing partner for the protype.
From a guy like you are I didn't think is possible to give any less then excellent performance. Just wanted to say we all appreciate your effort. Thank you for what you are doing burnin. Small donation coming your way. Sorry it's not more, it is what I can mine in one day and still have to gather and buy one chip more.
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