[Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

[tarmi]

and what about pricing?

will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?

if so, it will be very expensive.

read OP, it says €80

I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chip version.

[ujka]

and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.

There will be no 10 chip board. Just 20 chip board populated with 10 chips.
It doesn't make sense developing 10 chip board in this narrow time frame.
And 10 chip board probably wouldn't be cheaper - there is very low number of orders for this product expected.
It's wiser developing only one board (can be ordered in greater quantities) and populating it accordingly with 10 or 20 chips.

[tarmi]

and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.

There will be no 10 chip board. Just 20 chip board populated with 10 chips.
It doesn't make sense developing 10 chip board in this narrow time frame.
And 10 chip board probably wouldn't be cheaper - there is very low number of orders for this product expected.
It's wiser developing only one board (can be ordered in greater quantities) and populating it accordingly with 10 or 20 chips.

I understand that.

But the problem is that I was planning to order 15 boards with 10 chips (dont ask me why). Now I just want to know what the price will be.   

[g83]

Why don't you order 7.5 boards with 20 Chips ? .-)

[sprint347]

You could sell me 10x chips and get 7x Bitburner XX's  

Jokes aside, there's a purpose for 10 chip miners (different miners mining different coins, selling devices, setting up in different locations etc.)

[eraziel]

and what about pricing?

will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?

if so, it will be very expensive.

read OP, it says €80

I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chip version.

The price is completely reasonable and if you think otherwise you are free to go look for alternatives.
Somehow i think that 2.5 GH/s for less than 3 Btc is still quite a good deal.
Of course you are free to look for better deals elsewhere.

[tarmi]

Yes, I know that the price is reasonable, at least for the 20 chip boards. 

THats why I will order 20+ 20 chip boards. BUT, I also need 10 chip boards, and I need info how much will those boards cost and take some action accordingly.

I am following and supporting this project from its beginning, and this started as a 10 chip project.

[f.baasch75]

@Burnin

Greate news with the overclocking

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Hey guys,

which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?

What about this Thermaltake?

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812

1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt


Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?

How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? -  for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)

Thank you

Regards
Finn

burnin suggests a single rail 850 Watts psu for 16 burnin-XX boards. Don't know if it is more efficient, but in case of psu failure it is more reliable to use 2.

[tiros]

and what about pricing?

will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?

if so, it will be very expensive.

read OP, it says €80

I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chips version.

That is your assumption. Two type of boards were planed to be developed, and so far 20 chips version is finished.
It is unsure is there going to be 10 chips version.
From perspective of economy and material used it would be strange to use same board and than populate it with only half of it's chips capacity.
For the production, such a board would be waste of space, so design should be different.

burnin said somewhere these boards will be 20 chip only, and for me OP is quite clear on that having in mind burnin doesn't offer chip sales.

[SebastianJu]

and what about pricing?

will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?

if so, it will be very expensive.

read OP, it says €80

I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chips version.

That is your assumption. Two type of boards were planed to be developed, and so far 20 chips version is finished.
It is unsure is there going to be 10 chips version.
From perspective of economy and material used it would be strange to use same board and than populate it with only half of it's chips capacity.
For the production, such a board would be waste of space, so design should be different.

burnin said somewhere these boards will be 20 chip only, and for me OP is quite clear on that having in mind burnin doesn't offer chip sales.

But the material used isnt the main factor. The main factor is time and the price of production. Producing a small number of different pcb's wont bring an advantage. Its maybe the same price then. So its better to use the same pcb, get a lower price for producing it and populate it only with half the chips.
And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.

[tiros]

To be certain only burnin can answer this question is there going to be new 10 chips PCB version or same one will be used.

I can buy 15 chips more from zefir and I'm not sure if it is possible for a 20 chip board to work with only 15 chips placed on it.
Basically Im asking if it can work underpopulated and add later 5 chips more.

I won't do partial assembly, either 10 or 20.

Assembly cost can be paid in BTC or Eur. (Paypal, Wire Transfer)
Expect about 80 Eur assembly cost per module (that doesn't include chip cost).
For The 20 Chip Module expect about 100 Eur.

There will be the following order options:
1. Completed 10 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
2. Completed 20 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
3. Bare bones assembled 10 or 20 Chip PCBs for the DIY folks
4. Empty 10 or 20 Chip boards for hard-core DIY (If you ordered chips from Zefir i can send them together with the boards)

Ordering will be done through an dedicated website that is not up yet.
I'll announce the launch through my email newsletter.

Edit - added

But the material used isnt the main factor. The main factor is time and the price of production. Producing a small number of different pcb's wont bring an advantage. Its maybe the same price then. So its better to use the same pcb, get a lower price for producing it and populate it only with half the chips.
And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.

I agree on that one and I was thinking on space wasted on PCB.

[btceic]

[Foofighter]

Hey burnin,

Bitfury chips are now for sale^^, so lets start to think about REV.02 of Bitburner.

see here:
http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/shop/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg2661326#msg2661326

regards

[krasnolud]

Hey burnin,

Bitfury chips are now for sale^^, so lets start to think about REV.02 of Bitburner.

see here:
http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/shop/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg2661326#msg2661326

regards

My God, difficulty will skyrocket soon...

[Toolhead]

1 waterblock will be cooling 2 bitburner

 

[alexuk]

Burnin - ETA on website + ordering?

[RoadStress]

Hey burnin,

Bitfury chips are now for sale^^, so lets start to think about REV.02 of Bitburner.

see here:
http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/shop/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg2661326#msg2661326

regards

I don't think punin will give the master board schematics after reading from here: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/bitfury-55nm-asic-h-board/  "16 chip Hashing Board to be used with the Master board (or separately if you’re a real hacker)"

Are you a real hacker burnin? Will you offer mining board service with Bitfury's chips? If yes how are you going to get the schematics of the boards?

[itod]

Are you a real hacker burnin? Will you offer mining board service with Bitfury's chips? If yes how are you going to get the schematics of the boards?

Will you please stop to spam this topic with Bitfury bullshit? It says in the title: "Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service". If you want to discuss something else please start a new thread.

[f.baasch75]

1 waterblock will be cooling 2 bitburner

 

great idea to minimize cooling block material cost, maybe you can make the blocks longer to put 2 or 3 burnin boards to each others block side.
I really don't know much about these 19" racks and how deep they can be.

I guess there must be multiple cooling circuits to get the heat from the boards, right?

[Toolhead]

I guess there must be multiple cooling circuits to get the heat from the boards, right?

The internal construction of the water blocks is in development, but i think there will be multiple cooling circuits.

Here`s also a quick case construction (still a little bit out of square^^):