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if you substarate my "hitbtc donation" i will take the bitstamp api.
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pls if possible, add a Funktion to pin the open market Tabs at its Position. it is realy annoying as it is now.
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or make Sub menus per main Option!
Actually in 2.3 i choose Sub-Menu in Ping-Pong algo creation. Cool! So don't waste time here! Go on at work!  |
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And the sell side?
When i add an option it must be an option that could be used by all the users, i cant add "custom" request.
And the most important thing, is a wise choose of all options because i want to avoid result that people won't buy C.A.T. because is too complex
you are free to use my sughestions in your way  ( add the same for Sell Orders, if you think it is usable) This is just a automated called "Close All (Pong or/and Ping) Buy Orders" or "Close all (Pong) Sell Orders" Choose things that are usefull to let CAT work without permanent user controll, so it will get a real trading bot! And Chose the Things i sughest you! As i said... there must be a advanced Settings Page!
Make one page "main controll" and a page "advanced user settings" Grin or make Sub menus per main Option! |
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no time to make Money?
sorry, didn't want to offend you. Only sughestions!
as i said: i love Cat, it is nice, but it could be more nicer!
If you can't follow market you can't make money, some person change house, some other exit from cryptocurrency world, it's more than 1 year i'm selling C.a.T. obviously someone decide to sell his copy. And of course, there are some people who are not very good at trade, or people who bought C.A.T. @0.4 and sell it for 0.6-0.8 I Accept and appreciate your suggestions, and i will add new features in the core (in the 2.3 version there will be some of them). if you apperciate my sughestions, i have very much of them, but normaly i should take Money for them! (joke) (a free Bittrex frontend is enough! ( 2nd. joke)) : one other is: when timer is runned out and return to BTC is aktiv, there should be a Option - cancel unused "buy shitcoins" orders! (this would make the risk more less, to let Cat work alone or over night!) to enhance this Feature: Chose to : cancell all CAT Buy orders ( ) or cancel all CAT and Markets Buy Orders ( ) As i said... there must be a advanced Settings side!  ... to enhance that: cancel all Buy orders > x... and so on.... As i said... there must be a advanced Settings Page! |
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no time to make Money?
sorry, didn't want to offend you. Only sughestions!
as i said: i love Cat, it is nice, but it could be more nicer!
If you can't follow market you can't make money, some person change house, some other exit from cryptocurrency world, it's more than 1 year i'm selling C.a.T. obviously someone decide to sell his copy. And of course, there are some people who are not very good at trade, or people who bought C.A.T. @0.4 and sell it for 0.6-0.8 I Accept and appreciate your suggestions, and i will add new features in the core (in the 2.3 version there will be some of them). if you apperciate my sughestions, i have very much of them, but normaly i should take Money for them! (joke) (a free Bittrex frontend is enough! ( 2nd. joke)) : one other is: when timer is runned out and return to BTC is aktiv, there should be a Option - cancel unused "buy shitcoins" orders! (this would make the risk more less, to let Cat work alone or over night!) |
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to be honest, i readed the messagaes from users, want to sell thair Cat copies... thats a other form from asking to make Cat better. who sells a working Gold digger?  How many? Do you know how many C.A.T. copies i sold? Probably not, because number of people who sold C.A.T. are very few. And usually reasons are only because they didn't have time to follow market trading. Don't speak about things you don't know. no time to make Money? sorry, didn't want to offend you. Only sughestions! as i said: i love Cat, it is nice, but it could be even more nicer! |
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Well this is not a problem, it's only an option i can include.
TO be hones nobody ask me a "Sell All Sell Pool if price goes under X" but i can add this option.....
to be honest, i readed the messagaes from users, want to sell they Cat copies... thats a other form from asking to make Cat better. who sells a working Gold digger? |
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Why? I usually start with 1 Ping buy + 1 PIng sell order
If you set STOP LOSS or STOP PING CREATION and you go to bed C.A.T. will apply the rules when verified.
That's the Problem! If u use "stop Ping creation" you also stop the Sell Ping, or not!? This Abort smart Exit! Edit: There is a break in conversation. I see you understud this main Problem of aktual CAT Version There is something to do on the core and the Settings page as well! |
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You say that anyone operating with BTC/USD has made a loss. This would suggest that CAT hasn't performed well on any of the coins which have fallen by a similar amount over the past few months.
No, i told "In the USD/BTC of course, all people who hold have a loss" which means "if you hold your BTC while market (USD/BTC) is crashing, of course you will have a loss" yea, sadly true! CAT has no Exit Strategie(Cat has no strategies at all), only "sell all"(stop loss)l Parameter, chosable by the user. Cat only is sucssfull at a rising or floating around Market. What other Exit Strategies do you know? Find me a trader who is able to make Gain on a dropping market (or even a human). There mathematikal Algos using some Statistik Grid maths to try the best Exit without loose. But i have not as you have no such Algo .. Don't take me wrong, Cat is nice, but it is not a autark Bot or something this. You have to think and trade yourself, just using CAt as a real supporting and helpfulll Tool as well.
When a market is dropping Sell(Ping) -> Buy (Pong) works (you will have more Quantity in Alt-Currency)sorry that is not a real gain I have a lot worthless Altcoins, cant sell them for the BTC what they have cost me! And also on Cat you cant realy use Sell and Buy at the same time, not even as Exit Strategie while you sleep or something else. |
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You say that anyone operating with BTC/USD has made a loss. This would suggest that CAT hasn't performed well on any of the coins which have fallen by a similar amount over the past few months.
No, i told "In the USD/BTC of course, all people who hold have a loss" which means "if you hold your BTC while market (USD/BTC) is crashing, of course you will have a loss" yea, sadly true! CAT has no Exit Strategie(Cat has no strategies at all), only "sell all"(stop loss)l Parameter, chosable by the user. Cat only is sucssfull at a rising or floating around Market. So Cat is not a real trading Bot, just a Trading Tool. |
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so as usual , let cat with the first sell, create pong with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on.
The problem is the "Reference Price" (The Ping Price), i can Merge 2 trades only if Reference Price is the same. The "Merge Trades" function is into my todo list. But the lack of this feature really makes it near impossible to use. You really have to watch it, all markets, all the time.
I don't agree with that. A lot of "little ping" or "a big pong" doesn't change much, and also a "pool" limit doesn't change much. I have A LOT of users, and nobody ask me for this features. And many of them ROI in less than 1 month. C.A.T. is not Artificial Intelligence, if market changes and go against ping-pong rules there's nothing to do. pls first improve the core before work on new api frontends. i think, ppl will think twice before purchase any new api front , before the core works in smart condition. |
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Ok, if you think this is a good idea, i will add in the 2.3 or 2.4 yea, This is necessary! and we Need a sulution for the pong Problem... maybe it is possible to Programm a adjustable buffer value (like a temp pool ) to get a min pong sell Volumen!? maybe the way is: ping is 100 -> sell 1 , sell 1, another sell 1 and so on... we dont want many pongs with 1 it should be (adjustable) min 10... so as usual , let cat with the first sell, create pong with 1 . After second sell 1 -> recreate the pong 1+1 and so on, till the pong is risded to 10. With the elevent sell 1 , cat should create a second pong, becouse the last pong has rised to min volume and fill it till 10 ... and so on. or let cat create a pool with volume min 10, after it is filled with min 10 let cat create pong from pool. this would be just a buffer and should be easy programable |
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Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed? After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.
I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you. If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool. Example : Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50. During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool. During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool. Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values). Could you explain me, how this new option could help you? Example : Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50. it should be: never let rise Pool total > 50 (adjustable) = pool max volume! This means that if you start with a PING Of (Total X PricE) 100 and you set Never Let Rise Pool total > 50 this is what happens : Example Ping @ Buy 100@1 TRADE FROM PING (1 Trade, Ping Filled) -> Pong Sell 100@1.1 TRADE FROM PONG (1 Trade, Pong Filled) -> GAIN And Total is 100 * 1.1 = 110 110 -> 50 In Pool, 60 is discarded. Right? yes we add in a session Manual some pings eg 3 * 100 ... with luck there is 3 times a gain of 10 (*3) = total 330 we do not want automatic ping creation of more than total 100 (afk) so the pool must not become over 100 330 -> 100 pool 230 discard = 100 pool we add now new Manual ping 100 and gain 10 . poll is already filled max -> so the additional 110 complet dicard! just a pool max volumen! |
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Is there no way to set max buy amounts allowed? After a few successful Ping pongs you end up essentially doubling down again and again, so where I might start with a single buy at 0.02345 value in BTC, I've noticed over time I have single orders for .75 BTC.
I can add this feature but i don't understand the reason : C.A.T. will never use more than the TOTAL (Price * Quantity) of all PING Orders created by you. If you set a Limit, this limit could work starting from Buy/Sell Pool. Example : Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50. During Lookup 1 : C.A.T. will create a new Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 50 In Pool. During Lookup 2 : C.A.T. will create another Buy Orders of 50 Total, and left 0 In Pool. Result is that you will have 2 new Ping (probably with the same values). Could you explain me, how this new option could help you? Example : Buy/Sell Pool Total = 100 + Never Create Buy Orders With Total > 50. it should be: never let rise Pool total > 50 (adjustable) = pool max volume! never create pings with all tota l> 50 also we need a "dont create pongs < xx" althougt when you dont understud the reason |
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but why cat cant't put the order IN the order book at 500? At pong orders i have the Option to let create it IN the order book. ?
Pong is different, Pong have a Reference Price. Ping could be set always on top order book (in respect of Ping-Pong Parameters) your order was inside the order book, BUT new price calculated was outside the Parameters Limit. If you remove the parameter, orders will be recreated on top of book. why i can tell cat, not to create ping orders < min. But i can't do that with Auto pong orders? in some cases cat so will collapse markets with lot of micro orders! Pong Orders are created from a TRADE. If your PING Order is filled with 3 trades, there will be 3 PONG Orders. and you can't add some Logical routines to recreate the pong orders to one? ( sometimes till 50 and more! and all with descending Prices although they all have the same reference price) thats sad  |
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sell orders: 0.00004984 185.85057614 0.00926279 0.00004985 132.70631884 0.00661541 0.00005397 10.00000000 0.00053970 0.00005399 311.97558269 0.01684356 0.00005496 1617.40162830 0.08889239 <- big order 0.00005497 500.00000000 0.02748500 <- me PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Check For Recalculation 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : First Markets Checks Are Ok. 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : Never Sell Under 0.00005000 price calculated is 0.00004983 !!! 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Recalculation. 2014-10-27 01:59:59| PPA : Update Market Orders,My Orders,My Trades. I Don't understand what's the problem. You have a Sell Order of 0.00005497 The recalculation routine starts. Value calculate is 0.00004983 (to be on TOP of the Book Orders). Never Sell Under Parameter comes in play and order is not recreated sorry, but this is BS!  What is BS? but why cat cant't put the order IN the order book at 500? At pong orders i have the Option to let create it IN the order book. ? and this sughests a other important question: why i can tell cat, not to create ping orders < min. But i can't do that with Auto pong orders? in some cases cat so will collapse markets with lot of micro orders! it should be possible to chose a min order value at pongs! cat is very nice and i love it, but it could be even nicer |
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sell orders: 0.00004984 185.85057614 0.00926279 0.00004985 132.70631884 0.00661541 0.00005397 10.00000000 0.00053970 0.00005399 311.97558269 0.01684356 0.00005496 1617.40162830 0.08889239 <- big order 0.00005497 500.00000000 0.02748500 <- me PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Check For Recalculation 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : First Markets Checks Are Ok. 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PPC(REC-SELL-PI) : Never Sell Under 0.00005000 price calculated is 0.00004983 !!! 2014-10-27 01:59:27| PING-187311320 : SELL 500.00000000@0.00005497 Current 500.00000000 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Recalculation. 2014-10-27 01:59:59| PPA : Update Market Orders,My Orders,My Trades. sorry, but this is BS! |
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Hi Sampey new sugestions: it should be possible to add optional, to automaticaly close buy and/or sell orders after the timer is runned out! and a Option : never buy more than % over the last buy-reference Price. |
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Hi Sampey
i wish there where a adjustable Setting for max buy/sell pool use, due prevent to big ping creations after some lucky ping pongs!
or a "don't cratae total Pings with >"
this should be possible.
i hope u can add such function!?
And a Question:
is it possible, to close the program eg. for upgrade with new Version, without losing actual status of orders?
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