Yeah. 13 hrs and I still don't know what the trouble is.

New ISP, new hardware, new techies, new melon-scratchers.

Takes in Bitcoin and pays out Paypal?

Paypal is not automated?

No other payout currencies?

No other input currencies?

What does this thing actually do? Write an email to a human who does a manual exchange?

Does it test for confirmations? How many?

Seems a easier way is just to look at the website.

You've got your trust issues backward.

The guy accepting the charge is the one running the risk. The guy accepting the bitcoins is home free.

The credit card can be charged back, the bitcoin cannot. In dispute the onus is on the sender of the bitcoin to prove he did so. No credit card company is going to accept the blockchain as evidence of a product being delivered.

Whether the cardholder is lying to get his money back or he really did have his card number misappropriated, the result is the same, the money pulled back from the merchant account to refund the charge card.

To add to the injury, the card issuer will charge the merchant $25 - $40 service fee for the privilege of being ripped off by the scammer who got him for the bitcoins. Double ouch!

It's no wonder that the banks and other card issuers don't supply the needed tools for a merchant to scrub out this type of "friendly" fraud or even for stolen cards. They are complicit in the crime - they make a fortune in service fees.

I've seen merchants ruined by this friendly and stolen card number fraud. Not just in currency trades, but in anything that is easily liquidated.

Centregold.ca has been risking it for many years, since long before bitcoin was released.

They have very sticky verification, as you should expect.

The fee is high, as you should expect.

It takes time to do the investigating, that you should also expect.

Paul is legit. I can vouch for him - almost ten years a trading partner.

If he has no bitcoin, you can take another hard digital currency such as Perfect Money, which is trival to swap for BTC at a number of sites.

I encourage you to instead pay by a non-reversible cash method. You will save lots of fees, time and avoid intrusions of your privacy.

This special offer continues.

Presently paying 492.80 CAD (450.87 USD equiv)

PLUS ONE PERCENT is $497.73 CAD

paid in CASH - that stinky paper stuff - in person, anonymously and safely to your big 5 bank account.

Who can love your Canadian bitcoins more?

Fast service! Great prices! Limited time offer!

I still have a mitt full of brown paper and I'm after the bitcoins.
http://nanaimogold.com/images/iStock_CanadianFistOfCash.jpg

For a limited time I will pay MORE THAN MARKET PRICE

in CANADIAN dollars
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Straight trade, no pinching the CAD to EURO exchange - try to find any financial institution who will do that!

Plus ONE PERCENT premium!!

No exchange fees!

No bank fees!

You get to KEEP THE WHOLE AMOUNT! And the one percent extra too!

Safely deposited as cash to my local branch of your big five bank account. (RBC, TD, BoM, Scotia, CIBC can also do CCCU and HSBC)  

There is practically NO WAY you can get your money into, or out of, the BTC-E for less than 9% fees. Sell to me and see 10% more!

This offer is obviously for a LIMITED TIME.

ZERO

Same amount I had in Gox

Same amount I had in cavirtex

Intersango

Bitomat.pl

Flexcoin

The dope sites

Bitstamp

et al

Did you all get a warning? Did anyone explain that just because the bank website says the emt is not reversible is not reason to think you can accept such payments reliably? What about Dwolla? Did anyone explain the pitfalls? What about the inevitability of Gox operating at a fraction when they started bleeding for lawyer bills while fighting the FATF closing their French bank accounts? Or while bailing out the *ahem* hacked Bitomat?

The answer to this and many more questions about getting warned is a resounding YES. That you chose to ignore such warnings is evidence of the human condition I suppose.

Why have I quit warning? Would you continue when getting bashed, slandered and defamed for pointing out the realities? Wouldn't you just rather use your insight to your own advantage?

Good Luck!

And to the very few who did heed my warnings about fraud and reversible payments and about how banks are the natural enemy of private money, you are welcome and I am glad to see you all richer for it.

I've still got a mitt full of cash to spend.

Presently offering $625.68 CAD

Currently offering 623.66 CAD
less 3.9% fee

Nanaimo Gold has been trading in bitcoin since '09 - much longer than any other service.

Gox? What's a Gox?

Currently offering 614.83 CAD
less 3.9% fee

This is a cash deposit with no depositor recorded by your bank. There is no chance of charge back or reversal. The tax man learns only what you tell him. This is a personal service using your personal account.

A cash deposit is not an online transfer. I actually send a friendly stranger into your bank with a deposit slip and real Canadian cash. You are then emailed a pic of the deposit receipt. Your bank info is not kept on file.

Compare that to Gox where you get their in house scrip that you can't spend anywhere else.

Currently offering 669.90 CAD
less 3.9% fee

Currently offering 608.22 CAD
less 3.9% fee

Canadians - Sell your bitcoin for cash deposited to any of the big five banks.

Very stealthy, no paper trail.

Economical - low fees.

I know nothing more than the OP has described. It's a classic fraud. Rob convinces Mark to send money to pay for something he will never see. Rob then uses that money to fund something else for himself.

I have seen this almost every day for the many years I have been exchanging private currencies.

When the real owner of that money gets suspicious and his banker follows it to Gox, he will get his refund.

Wow, you guys really don't get it.

The OP wants the money that the "friend" (victim) who owns the business in UK wired to Gox. It's his money.

Gox will not help the OP (scammer) and is waiting for the real owner of the money to step up.

It's a classic "third party fraud".

Kudos to Gox for catching this scam.

This offer continues.

Replace the word "friend" with "victim" and you will understand better.

Gox will refund to the sending bank account after they hear from that victim. They obviously won't take direction from a scammer.

Cash deposits made daily to accounts in the big 5 Canadian banks.

No ID required. No paper trail. No reporting. No tax man. No sweat.

Don't settle for Gox scrip when you can get real spending cash.

Every man has at least one crazy vindictive ex.

Update:

One crazy vindictive ex and the man she was stepping out with. I'm glad he has to put up with her insanity now. No, I do not want her back.

Neither of these people has a clue about what bitcoin is or how an exchanger's business operates. To call me a fraud after what I have caught them in is true irony. Such criminality, at such a petty level. It's sad really. They even stole my razor blades.

Simply, she wanted to hurt me in some way and he assisted her by setting up the 'truth' account and posting the above liable.

If either of them had the brains to remember the password, they would be on here making a retraction now. It's not so funny for them in retrospect.

It is entirely too easy to bad mouth a business operator anonymously via internet. Anyone can see I was among the first to sign onto this board. Just check the membership roster. Then along comes an anonymous poster, who has made only this one post. Who are readers to believe?

Some jilted lover and her new paramour can anonymously say some half baked crap on a forum - that should effect me? Unfortunately, it does.

Nanaimo Gold is still operating. The first and the oldest exchanger of bitcoin, and among the longest running of all exchangers of privately issued currencies.