Wait - you agreed & wanted to take on p2pool.info did you not? Now you're saying you don't have the time or resources? It hasn't worked for the majority of the time you've had it anyway, despite you saying weeks ago you'd have it up "within a day or two". Personally I wish you hadn't taken it on, those "10 hours" of getting it back online would have been much better spent on doing something with p2pool instead. The only reason that you have got p2pool.info back up is to enable you to post here after so long - because you would have been shot to pieces had you posted this while p2pool.info was still down, and you know it.


You couldn't be more wrong - that's exactly the reason people have done it - plus trying to get any kind of response from you was impossible, so you can't blame them at all.


Really? So according to your calculations 90% of p2pool users are hypocrites? It is interesting to note that the majority of users who suggest disabling donations are long-term users of p2pool - why do you think that is? Probably because they are the ones who have seen the development of p2pool as well as the involvement of it's dev in this here thread dwindle to zero over the last year. It is also the long-term users who have kept faith in p2pool which have stopped it from dying out completely - calling them hypocrites is not only unwise, it is also kicking them in the teeth.


Basically you're saying that unless everyone turns on donations again you won't do anything. The trouble with that is, users have been donating over the last year while you have done nothing. Then, out of the blue you post this & expect everyone to instantly give you donations again? That's bordering on bribery. I stopped donating to p2pool when development stopped & you went AWOL about 8 months ago, I see nothing in your post to change my mind & switch donations on again - quite the opposite in fact. I might not have used p2pool for as long as many other users have, but I have been using only p2pool for the entire time I have spent mining & have promoted it constantly up until you disappeared & p2pool became abandonware. When I see something happening to p2pool again I will switch donations on again - but not before. Calling me a hypocrite & blackmailing me will not change my mind either, in fact it puts me off even more.

Pull your head out of your arse, communicate with your users, discuss, talk & do something.

If you build it - they will come.

If any.....   Well, for a start, everyone who followed murdof's excellent guide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651819.0) is unknowingly/knowingly donating to invisible-dev, because there is unfortunately no mention of how to switch it off. That's going back a week. Now, work out how many weeks p2pool has been active & that will give you a fairly good idea of how many users are unknowingly/knowingly donating to invisible-dev.

As for the rest of your statement - the reason you have to use words like "hypothetically", "assume", "pretend" & "I wonder" is because you don't know. The reason you don't know is because invisible-dev does not communicate with anyone whatsoever - nobody knows. That's why I prefer to go with facts - I go by what I see, and I haven't seen anything major happen with p2pool for over a year. That makes it stone age in software terms, and is why hardly any of the newer hardware coming out will work with it.

That is what needs to be put right, not add another insignificant alt-coin & disguise it as "development" in an effort to bump up dwindling donations by unsuspecting users.

The motivation is getting p2pool to be #1 & decentralising the network.

The reward is donations from users for development. No development=no donations & a tiny pool that struggles to find users.

Edit: I've been using a custom bitcoind data location for nearly 2 years. It's not new.

No, it isn't better than nothing. It is nothing. Anyone with coding experience can add another coin - look at raven_pl's p2pool fork - it's got loads of coins. Adding another coin is not development - it's just another coin that people can't mine because of hardware incompatibility problems. Development is addressing issues, answering questions, posting findings/suggestions & communicating with the users of p2pool.

Adding another coin that has no major user base, following or general use - on a scale of 1 - 10 - is about #100 on the list of priorities.

Development my arse.

Are you kidding? Merging a 3 month old pull request by someone else can hardly be called development - more like invisible dev has noticed his donations have dropped........what a joke 

That's it. We're all  screwed 

Will Kano be lurking?

I have a sneaky suspicion that proof will not be forthcoming......

Hope I'm wrong.

Greetings, couple of questions please:

Are these new or used?
Shipping from/to?
If new - tested with warranty?
If used - how old?
Hashrates within spec?
Possible to upload pics?

Regards  

Again, you miss my point. Even if the problem can be fixed by the devs at cgminer, it would make their work so much easier if p2pool had an active dev who would work with ckolivas  & kano to iron out any issues. The cgminer devs do this out of kindness & donations - the dev here gets donations for doing sod all.

I'm aware of this.

The S2 (and others) work fine on any other pool - it's been like this ever since asics came out. If they all work on every other pool but this one - it is arguably a p2pool problem. However, as there is no dev here to look into it, it's not going to change in a hurry - that is my point.

Thanks jedimstr, more bad news then.........I gotta say, it absolutely wrecks my f*cking head that there is so much incompatibility with p2pool & most mining hardware due to a complete lack of development work by the invisible dev here - which brings me on to another point:


It seems pretty obvious that we are not going to hear from him, so why the hell don't we change the code in p2pool to donate to miners instead of him? Donating to a dev who doesn't/can't/won't either develop the software or comment on this thread is not only pointless, but a waste of everyone's hard earned satoshi & doing this would only encourage more miners to p2pool. Frankly, I'm sick of him receiving donations for doing & saying f*ck all. If this means forking or whatever - so be it. At least that way it will be the miners who benefit from using p2pool. Maybe even a new thread, that way we can start looking for a dev who is willing to take a look at the p2pool code to make it more user friendly & hardware compatible? I don't know, it's up to the p2pool community of course, but it's about time something was done.
The ghash situation has caused many miners to look for alternative pools, I see so many people saying p2pool is the perfect option, decentralize, etc etc - but they can't use it! We are missing a massive opportunity here to make p2pool THE pool & safeguard the network for the future of Bitcoin - but once again we are missing it by a mile.

It just makes me so angry.

Yeah, it can be like that - just be patient & they will come - but 171Gh isn't so much nowadays 


Is anyone using Dragon 1Th on p2pool? Care to share your experiences? Thinking of getting a few if they're compatible......

Worked a treat for me on the pre-fork version - good work & thanks to JoeGruff for the fix 

Is HUC on the new fork yet? If so, I'll try it on the new version......

Why on earth are you waiting? Their statements are bullshit anyway - just go somewhere else 

Nice work Murdof - the old guide was in desperate need of updating - kudos  

Not sure if it's worth it, but maybe add HUC & FSC to the mix? Just in case users want that little bit extra......although HUC can be a bit of a resource hog.

Finding a dev or two wouldn't do any harm either......

It has. P2pool.

They're not Chinese - they're Ukrainian - not that it has anything to do with anything mentioned 

I have a feeling that many p2pool users would like to hear something from the dev here. Me included 

I'm in.