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461  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BitcoinWheel.net Gambling Website 4 Sale on: November 13, 2013, 07:07:43 PM
WTF. I just paid you 1 BTC for this.
462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / $4.1m goes missing as Chinese bitcoin trading platform GBL vanishes on: November 13, 2013, 08:00:53 AM

$4.1m goes missing as Chinese bitcoin trading platform GBL vanishes

By Kadhim Shubber | Published on November 11, 2013 at 17:15 GMT | Companies, Exchanges, News

Bitcoin is surging in China, but the explosion in digital currency trading has been accompanied by possible fraud and theft.

GBL, a Chinese bitcoin trading platform that claimed to be based in Hong Kong, recently shut down – an event that might not be worthy of note had ¥25m ($4.1m) worth of users’ money not disappeared with it.

The company appears to have launched in May 2013, with its domain btc-glb.com registered on 9th May and a post later that month by Bitcoin Talk forum user zhaoxianpeng promoting the site.

Suspicions

Commenters were instantly suspicious, noting that the site’s server was based in Beijing despite the site’s claim to being based in Hong Kong.

They also pointed out that GBL hadn’t provided straightforward contact information on their site and that the platform used a patchwork of information lifted from other websites.

Those weren’t the only warning signs. According to WantChinaTimes.com, which quotes a report from Chinese newspaper Southern Weekly, GBL registered as a company with the Hong Kong authorities on 10th June but never received a license for financial services.

Despite these concerns, it seems GBL was able to attract 1,000 mainland investors, according to a report from Hong Kong-based newspaper The Standard.

The forum thread now has a large red warning notice from a moderator at the top that reads: “Be careful scam.”

By September, GBL began issuing stock to its users, and in early October it was capping the amount of money users could cash out. Those actions could have been to maximize the amount of money it held.

Without a trace

Soon after, on 26th October, GBL shut down and vanished without a trace.

The address listed on its website proved to be a fake – “the office listed on its website […] turned out to be a false address,” reports The Standard – and the Hong Kong police have now been involved.

Bitcoin’s history is littered with these kinds of stories, which appear to show behaviour that is not entirely above board.

This list gives some sense of the number of times bitcoiners have been persuaded to part with their money, only to find that, whether by malice or by incompetence, they couldn’t get it back.

The theft of over a million dollars worth of bitcoin from Australian wallet service Inputs.io is probably the most recent infamous case.

Inputs.io may have been a case of incompetence, with some questioning whether the service did enough to secure its users bitcoins.

Malice

With GBL, the evidence points towards malice but the warning signs were there. For 1,000 investors, though, the excitement of getting on the bitcoin gravy train seems to have suppressed their better judgement.

Just over a week ago, BTC China, the first trading platform to trade bitcoins for Chinese yuan, shot past Mt. Gox to momentarily become the world’s number one bitcoin exchange and, on the ground, businesses are beginning to awaken to the digital currency’s potential, with a bar in Beijing leading the field by becoming the first in China to accept bitcoin.

In the land of the “Great Firewall”, the success of bitcoin, the currency of the Internet, is obviously attracting a great deal of attention.

Like elsewhere, it seems it is also attracting sharks ready to take your money if you’re not careful. Watch out.



http://www.coindesk.com/4-1m-goes-missing-chinese-bitcoin-trading-platform-gbl-vanishes/


Additional info:


The company appears to have launched in May 2013, with its domain btc-glb.com registered on May 9, and a post later that month by Bitcoin Talk forum user zhaoxianpeng promoting the site.


http://bitcoinsinsider.com/4-1m-goes-missing-as-chinese-bitcoin-trading-platform-gbl-vanishes_b1640
463  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Mining vs Meth Labs on: November 13, 2013, 07:05:35 AM
Not a good joke.

You know feds just took down SR right?

Bitcoin needs to get away from that negative imagery.
464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Advanced Tor Browser Bundle config. - Anti-Spying - Anti-ECHELON - Anti-FiveEyes on: November 13, 2013, 07:03:28 AM
How does this compare to JonDoBrowser?

https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/

I know JonDoBrowser deals with the problem of "fingerprinting" browsers.

See http://ip-check.info/?lang=en for an example of Browser fingerprinting.
465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin is unregulated and there are no state laws for bitcoin on: November 13, 2013, 07:01:34 AM
No.

A court recently decided Bitcoin is legal currrency, so theft of it IS treated as a crime in the USA.



As far as state laws are concerned because of the 'internet' nature of Bitcoin, it probably becomes the turf of the FBI.
466  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC BUY!!!! on: November 13, 2013, 06:55:51 AM
I think people are uneasy investing a #$% load of money for something virtual.
They will come around Smiley
Exactly, the price stays around the point of the last big drop because daily traders are affraid it won't go past that point and create sell walls, the price bounces down a bit and up again, but the wall is holding. Now either people start buying with confidence and break the wall or we there will be another correction. IMO the first one is more likely as BTC is booming.

I agree.

Something needs to happen to rock this boat.

No one is selling because they think we have ways to go; not many people buying because of the high price and fear of a correction.
467  Other / Off-topic / Re: Tell me a good new show to watch ? on: November 13, 2013, 06:46:55 AM
Gold Rush on Discovery.
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Any pro stock traders care to technically analyze Bitcoin price? on: November 13, 2013, 06:45:09 AM
Most are mired in guesses. I want to focus purely on technical analysis.

To be clear, more than tea cup handle assumptions.


 

I know there are some pro stock traders on here, let's hear it Cheesy
469  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's getting frothy, and I'm dumping 75% of my coins on: November 13, 2013, 06:44:17 AM
Three accounts.


Sell all in number one when it hits $500

Sell all in number two when it hits $1,000

Never sell all in account number three Smiley
470  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Mining vs Meth Labs on: November 13, 2013, 06:37:24 AM
No, no, and no.
471  Economy / Speculation / Any pro stock traders care to technically analyze Bitcoin price? on: November 13, 2013, 06:26:06 AM
Watching alot of Jim Kramer,Mad Money lately on CNBC and always like to hear the reassurance of the technical analyst. Smiley

Anyone one here versed in doing tech analysis of stocks? I would be interested to know what you think the trend is right now, and where you think the next buy in point is.

472  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse of the trust system by Vod on: November 13, 2013, 06:15:07 AM


Now vod has changed it to:



AndrewWilliams 0: -0 / +0(0)   2013-11-13   0.00000000      
I do not trust this person.





Listen. I have never done business with you.

Unless you are a psychic mind reader you do not have the ability to ascertain if I am trustworthy.

In fact, my trade history shows that I am infact a trustworthy person.

If you don't trust me, don't trade with me. Posting something like that in neg feedback is nonsense.
473  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse of the trust system by Vod on: November 13, 2013, 05:56:01 AM
I am sorry AndrewWilliams; I am sorry Tomatocage, but I do not trust this person.

He has been PMing and asking people to leave me negative feedback for no reason.
He has been leaving negative trust for other people for no reason.
Personally, he has been incredibly disrespectful to me in his language and actions.

Trust is never permanent, but right now I'm feeling very bullied.



Yes, I asked just_me to do so because you gave him unwarranted neg feedback.
But, you took care of it and removed it. Kudos for that.



Disrespect?
If you want to talk about disrespect, you can start with you bashing Christianity repeatedly on this forum. You often trolled me in threads having nothing to do with you.

Any mud slung at you has been in return for your oppression against me or others. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I do not sit idly by when someone attacks me.



The ONLY neg trust I have showing for anyone is lucullus.
He got it for giving me TWO neg feedbacks for saying I am a scammer and con artist, both unfounded. He seemed to be following your lead to be honest, as I've never had any interaction with him or done business with him.


If someone give you a neg feedback which is false or unwarranted, you absolutely should give that person a neg feedback back. Period.


Bullying? Really? That seams to be the perfect term for what you have been doing on here.

The point is I said I was willing to do a cease fire with you, yet you continue to antagonize. Move forward.

Trust is not a whitelist for who YOU trust and don't trust, especially when it's not based on trading.


474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tithing on: November 13, 2013, 05:37:16 AM
You are either in denial, or defending these murderers!

Funny, that's what I say about christians who deny their religion has killed more people than any other in history. 

It seems you forget we are talking about modern times.

As in today. Wake up.

475  Economy / Lending / Re: $6 Paypal loan will repay $7.50 on: November 13, 2013, 05:35:22 AM
This is weird, I don't see negative trust on the OP but I see negative trust on Kouye...
Is there a glitch in the trust system? o.O

Kouye gave an honest person neg feedback for no reason.  

likl3sfuhjh does not deserve neg feedback.

Please fix this Kouye, the guy has a good trade history and has done nothing dishonest.
476  Other / Meta / Re: Abuse of the trust system by Vod on: November 13, 2013, 05:22:08 AM
Still waiting on Vod....

I've added to my signature that I will no longer accept anonymous scam reports, and I've removed that negative feedback I couldn't prove in the open forum due to a promise I made.

This should end the entire "abuse of trust system" issue.


What is this? So you took down the two neg feedbacks you put on my trust, only to put a new one up?

I said I would close the thread when it's resolved.

Take it down and be done with it already. Enough drama. Seriously this is getting ridiculous.



Vod 0: -0 / +1(1)   2013-11-12   0.00000000   
Reference   
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329358.0
This guy is a troll and UNTRUSTWORTHY. Likes to accuse random users of things he cannot prove, and abuses the trust system.



477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoLock - wow they really are making some money on: November 12, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
Today our system admin sendet out a mail through my companies network: serious warning. Trojan comes through attached fax. This virus doesn't aim on private users, it aims on business networks.
It aims at everyone.
How does one even code such a thing?


C++
478  Economy / Lending / Re: $6 Paypal loan will repay $7.50 on: November 12, 2013, 08:58:35 PM
DATroll is just building up a trust list so its friends don't get scammed.
Thanks for stalking on my posts, though, you're pretty helpful.  Smiley

Thank yourself. I saw you trolling my Vod abuse thread, and thought I would return the favor Cheesy

Oh, and your unwarranted negative feedback on me didn't help matters either.





BTW, likl3sfuhjh has a great trade history, stop trolling him.

You are behaving like a rabid racoon at this point. Biting everyone you can get your filthy claws on. You're a menace.
479  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Looking for a repuatable business email service that accepts Bitcoin on: November 12, 2013, 08:57:26 PM

Thanks Andrew, I must have missed that.  I will contact them.

A timely anecdote regarding email security:

Recently, I've been helping my parents manage their retirement savings.  Today we had a conference call with an advisor from the brokerage-arm for one of the Big 5 Canadian banks who manage their RRSP.  

My parents wanted to email something to them, and the advisor noted that they are steering all clients away from gmail for all communications.  In fact, they no longer send even non-confidential emails to gmail accounts, to prevent people from responding with something confidential over the same channel.  The advisor mentioned that they have had "10 hack attempts over gmail in the last 2 weeks," one of which very nearly succeeding in wiring a large amount of money to "clients in Asia."

I asked about PGP encryption but they said we should just snail mail this info to them.  

People are getting the e-mail heebeegeebees indeed!


No problem. I'll let you know as I find new services like this. Someone mentioned a joint project by Silent Circle and Lavabit, but it will take a few months at least for it to be developed, they are still in the fund raising stage. It does look very promising.

Google is a mess and I refuse to use any of their services including search.
It's leaked out for years that they save absolutely everything about every user including emails and search history, and never delete it.
When I saw Google start prompting for a phone number to be linked to my Google account, I said thats it, no more. It's obvious they want to be able to track every single person in a big brother fashion.

If you saw some of the people working at Google, you would get some real hibby jibbies!
480  Economy / Lending / Re: $6 Paypal loan will repay $7.50 on: November 12, 2013, 08:42:50 PM
Quote from: likl3sfuhjh

I added you aswell.
Im glad you bring so much to this community, by just slandering people.
[/quote


Ignore the troll. He thinks he is a magician.


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