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1921  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: February 06, 2014, 06:08:44 AM
That would send a dangerous message that Russian imperial expansion via war and resettlement may be slow, but it works.

I see a different problem: many of the people in those regions are too isolated and ignorant of the world around them. Strict travel restrictions at the borders make that a whole lot worse and the case in favour of those restrictions is constantly overstated for political reasons. Open up the borders to the West, and let the Ukrainians make an informed decision.

If Russian imperial expansion is wrong, the American imperialism is even more dangerous.
OK. So what?
Comparing USSA vs USSR penis size has nothing to do with the Ukraine discussion. And it does not give Russia the right to contemplate an act of war by stealing even 1 square metre of land from the foreign sovereign country of Ukraine. If any Eastern Ukrainians are so desperate to be under Russian rule, THEY SHOULD SELL THEIR HOUSES AND MOVE.

Neither the Russians nor the USA-ans seem realise just how similar their cultures appear to outside observers.

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And calling people (in Eastern Ukraine) ignorant just because they don't want to wag their tails to Obama is absolutely rude.
So Obama and the US are in charge of the counter-offers for increased integration with the European Union? Either I missed the announcement myself, or yes they are being ignorant.

However, I wouldn't get so offended if someone called me ignorant -- if I accept that maybe I am ignorant, then I might actually decide to learn something to reduce my level of ignorance. Maybe people who live in the EU should start getting offended that the Russians think:

EU = "the West" = Obama's puppet?  Angry


quote EU = "the West" = Obama's puppet?

and that isn't true?
1922  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 738 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 04:20:08 PM
Can you please explain to me why you are selling at $4/GH where it is strongly profitable for you not to do so and just self-mine? I don't understand why you would give up ~2.5 BTC profit by May 13th by locking in sales of shares now at ~27% below the market rate (Using $5.5/GH as the market rate -- S1's shipping Feb 8 ).

This may just be a great deal, but I would like to understand your motivation for taking much less money now.



+1
1923  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 738 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
imho83, please post some pictures of yours equipment with some kind of proof that is yours (paper with name or sometning on pictures)
1924  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 738 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 03:30:34 PM
Warning sign #1. Newbie account created to only run this group buy. You have ZERO other history.  Looks like you are a sock puppet for mladen00 which is pumping your scam.  You use the same sentence structure and broken english of your shill buyer.  

Warning sign #2. You are selling for less than any manufacturer is currently selling hardware for.  Too cheap, so it's too good to be true.  This is part of the anatomy of a scam.  It's a shame the moderators here do nothing to prevent users from getting taken.  

I wouldn't be surprised if you paid out a dividend to help boost confidence in your scam; that way you can sell more shares before you disappear with everyone's money.


Ninja don't f*** with me
i look to yours hashing group and you're to expensive 18Ghash+ 18kHash(is thi a joke?Huh)   for 0.295 BTC?Huh
realistic price now is about 0.0065 (1.45BTC/220) BTC/Ghash, you know what equipment.

18kHash scrypt?Huh? Is this a joke??

Yes 0.005Ghash is underpriced for 15%, but you have overprice for 450% !!!!!!!!


I hope imho83 isnt cheater, because i buy Ghashes from him for 0.2BTC.   Yes he is newbie and you are right, there is a very big possibility.... i hope that i dont get i told you so message from you.
I dont like cheater; i was buying aws codes, about 20 codes, and last 3 from that person didnt work....

My broken English...sorry for that but i'll bet that i'm better in english then you in Croatian, Slovenian, German, and maybe Hungarian
1925  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 880 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 12:27:41 PM
thank you Cheesy


I'm sending you now next 0,1BTC for 20Ghash more

from the same address;

proof: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/ddce70ddf49156b312a5353620feac173d8716ac5d1ae9b0c2ce67102a892885

1926  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 900 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 12:18:14 PM
I'm first buyer Smiley

I bought 20Ghash

i hope i got some bonus

Smiley

1927  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Immediate hashing] 900 gh/s available on: February 05, 2014, 12:03:14 PM
Hi

count me in

i wanna buy 20Ghash for the start

pm me
1928  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: February 05, 2014, 11:48:23 AM
not to forget about cultural/historical differences between poland and ukraine as regards their attitude to russia - whareas in Poland, Russia is viewed even today as a possible threat, there are parts of Ukraine where inhabitants are ethnic Russians or, at least, speak Russian as their first language, mainly in eastern parts of the country...

Polish politicians make sure that the anti-Russian attitude prevails among the local population, for their own necessity. The same can be said about Western Ukraine.

Around 50% of the Ukrainians speak Russian as a home language, while the remaining use Ukrainian. But several of those who use Russian as their primary language are anti-Russian as well.  Grin

I think the only possible solution is to split Ukraine in to two. The Central and Western regions should stay as Ukraine, while the pro-Russian east, with some 1/3rd of the population should merge with Russia.

That would send a dangerous message that Russian imperial expansion via war and resettlement may be slow, but it works.

I see a different problem: many of the people in those regions are too isolated and ignorant of the world around them. Strict travel restrictions at the borders make that a whole lot worse and the case in favour of those restrictions is constantly overstated for political reasons. Open up the borders to the West, and let the Ukrainians make an informed decision.

I think that most isolated people in world is peoples from USA.
They think that USA soldiers are protecting peace and free choice for peoples in whole worlds.

Afganistan, Libia, Syria, Irak, Kosovo,  9/11, false flags, GMO, al qaida, Nwo, Nsa, aids......................
1929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: February 05, 2014, 11:44:32 AM
this is revolution imported by the west countries.

Let the people from ukraine decides what is best for them


But they obviously don't want USSR 2.0 interference either. That's why some of the protesters are nationalists -- they have a legitimate fear that their country is being ripped apart from both sides.


Yes they have democracy and elections for that or???

Democracy is when protesters don't get killed.

And protesters are protesters if they don't attack police, and don't destroy everyone's property.

1930  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: February 05, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
this is revolution imported by the west countries.

Let the people from ukraine decides what is best for them


But they obviously don't want USSR 2.0 interference either. That's why some of the protesters are nationalists -- they have a legitimate fear that their country is being ripped apart from both sides.


Yes they have democracy and elections for that or???
1931  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why did you come to Bitcointalk? on: February 05, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
informatio

information

information


and information
1932  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [✔] [OPEN - LIMITED] Group Buy - Prospero X-1 by Black Arrow [$3.96/GH/s] [✔] on: February 05, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
in the BTC world 1 month is a lifetime Smiley
I let this one pass..

me too...
1933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: February 05, 2014, 10:46:11 AM
Hi

can you write me yours opinion for NEM coin?
1934  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Opinion on the US on: February 05, 2014, 10:45:05 AM
false flag country, without medical care
1935  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Interest in a GPU Group Buy? on: February 05, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
Hi im'm interested

please pm me  info & prices
1936  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SHARES] [OPEN] BITFURY SHARES (840+ GH/s) (Switzerland) on: February 05, 2014, 10:28:57 AM
Hi,

can you send me pm price for shares (25 and 50Ghash)

Thank you
1937  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Just bought 0.08 btc, trying to plot my next move on: February 05, 2014, 09:53:01 AM
i think investing 0.055BTC in NEM is excellent idea
1938  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: February 05, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
Jel ima negde neki tutorijal ili uputstvo da molo pogledam za picostocks, i posalji link ako nije problem.



link je ovdje:
https://picostocks.com/stocks/view/19

trenutna cena 1Ghasha je 0,016BTC

grafički definitivno nije ni blizu cex.io, a niti softverski, no BTC dolaze kao i na cex.io.

Ja sam npr. se sa cex.io izvukao na cijeni od 0,068 BTC/Ghash i ušao sam u picostock za tada niskih 0.038 BTC/Ghash

1939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MTC][CPU mining] Metiscoin | NO PREMINE| LAUNCHED! on: February 05, 2014, 09:42:59 AM
i like this coin too, but it is in dumping fase.
I wanna believe that second phase is cryptsy  Roll Eyes
1940  Economy / Economics / Re: The relative theory of value on: February 05, 2014, 08:44:40 AM
Einstein 's theory of relativity: Through Maxwell equations, define speed of the light as a never changing constant. This caused length and time become variables.  High-speed movement will shorten the length and slow down the time. It is a huge change in the way of thinking

Similarly, in value related topics , we are also facing such a major break through in thinking

When people discuss an economic phenomena, they usually have an unconscious habit: When they want to describe the value of something, they will say how much dollar this thing is worth. This is a view of the world caused by long-term use of USD, so that USD becomes a measurement unit of value

In fact, values are all relative. If measured by bitcoin, the value of USD are depreciating rapidly. However, we can not tell if it is bitcoin appreciation or USD depreciation, because all changes are relative

People will say that the USD prices of goods and services is relatively stable, changes slowly during a year, so the value of USD should also be stable

This also comes from an unconscious way of thinking, that the value of goods and services are relatively stable. In fact, the value of goods and services are all depreciating quickly, because the supply are increasing quickly. This is easy to understand: If the demand does not change but the supply increased by 10 times, then the value of goods will drop to 1/10 of its original value

So, although people are seeing that the USD price of goods/services are relatively stable , but that is only because the value of those goods and USD are dropping together at a similar rate

In a word, because the value is determined by supply and demand , if both the supply and demand are changing, finding a stable and constant point of reference is very difficult

And now with bitcoins , supply is fixed and limited, the reference point of value can be given by bitcoin, similar to the speed of light. Thus, when Bitcoin exchange rate rises, people will know that more fiat money are being produced. If one bitcoin can buy more goods, then people will know that the production of goods are increasing. In such a way, people can avoid using continuously depreciating currency to value continuously depreciating goods


There is one problem, although the total amount of bitcoin is limited, there are not so many in circulation. But because Bitcoin appreciate very fast, it will be less likely to be used in large-scale circulation, but highly likely to be used for large-scale savings, so the value of bitcoin can be derived from the demand of saving


Every day there are 370,000 new baby born. Suppose that the demand for these people's savings during their lifetime can be fulfilled by bitcoins, and the daily supply of Bitcoin on market is about 5000 coins, each person will get 0.0135 bitcoin for savings during their life time. That is about 1,350,000 satoshi. This could be the final stable value of Bitcoin. In current dollar prices, if someone saved $1,350,000, it is a good retirement plan. That will put one satoshi's value close to $1.

In future, the fiat money and goods will be produced more and more thus become less and less valuable. But as long as fertility does not change a lot, everyone's savings for retirement is probably always 1,350,000 satoshi. This is because long-term wise, daily bitcoin supply on market will always be around 5000 coins ( Suppose that majority of the people spend 10% of their saving each year after retirement )

So the average retirement saving for each person = 0.0135 bitcoin, this is a consistent way to use a fixed supply currency to value a very typical demand from any person

When you start to use bitcoin as a standard measurement of value, you will see how fast fiat money and goods are depreciating


well done

this theory is so good

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