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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: October 31, 2014, 07:22:27 AM
There was one other one that forgot to upload.

http://imgur.com/mfcZjA0



Now everyone can judge it all in its full context.

Btw koolio was kicked out of proms group after key.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 31, 2014, 07:18:11 AM
YourMother is using a proven lier to discredit a team that has delivered again and again?

Prom has shown again and again that he will lie to make a profit, it is his business model.
Also notice how this is posted when they know Dan is a sleep so he can't defend him self.

CRYPT is dead and it would make little sense to revive it as the brand has been tarred beyond repair.

When reading all this and making up your own opinion then remember to validate the sources. A screen shot of a skype conv. with a known lier is not a valid source IMO.

It's even worse than that.  In my opinion...everyone who is adamant in creating a BS talking point needs to prove that they are not part of the following...


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We're an advertising agency and we've been hired by several companies here to damage the reputation of their competitors.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819814.0
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Done should be the days of anyone just walking in here and demanding answers to idiotic questions.  They should have to prove why they should be taken seriously...much less deserve any kind of answer.

Excuse me.  They cost me a lot of money and I'm pissed.  Not at Dan.  Not at XC.  Not even in general since I know that crypto is weird and crazy and can change on a dime.  

I'm pissed at unnecessary impediment of valid developers who are trying to make things better.  If Dan and company (or if it pleases, Company and Dan ((it's a collaboration issue)) )can do what they say they can do..then give them a chance before IBM...

Don't need to lie to kick it, yo...


I merely set the record straight on "out of context" or "altered and modified" irc logs. Now everyone can dispense with the fact its made up and judge for themselves.

343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ShadowCash SDC Don't Miss The Huge Historical Event on: October 31, 2014, 04:46:02 AM
I see you have been trolling the attacking people too 002smurf. http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#8  Proofs in the pudding. SDC's very own 002 smurf in action. For shame. SDC guys never harasses or trouble other coins. No way man.

So that was a troll? I was being dragged into the middle of something. I cleared up the "out of context", now people can sort it out seeing the exact words of the conversation in context.

I didn't make shit up or go out of my way to attack someone, i've been threatened enough over this.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ShadowCash SDC Don't Miss The Huge Historical Event on: October 31, 2014, 04:36:44 AM
Long quite feeding the TrangLee troll. He think Zerocoin is Shadowsend. Argument is null and void.

Zerocoin is zk-snarks. Shadowsend uses zk-snarks. Smiley  

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Additionally, ZeroCoin/ZeroCash also has what many consider to be a fatal flaw in the way it works. At launch, everyone using the network must trust the creator to destroy certain secret startup data.

I'm sorry but I don't trust you or the SDC dev to make sure this actually happens. I am sure most people here won't trust you or him to do it. If they do they are damn fools.

Neither do I. This guys lie and fud other coins to make their case or bring down competitors against SDC.

Oh yeah then there was the Big huge Giant even of ZK-Snark implementation in September!!! Yeah!!! Oh fuck! wait wait its almost November?!! Aw shit another zeroscam lie.

Yes read the entry for sept and zk-snarks implementation.




Good thinking there is never any delays in software development right. Oh wait everything comes on time, nothing is ever late. Wake up man. A small delay is different from months or yyears.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ShadowCash SDC Don't Miss The Huge Historical Event on: October 31, 2014, 04:10:24 AM
Some more Zerocoin info on Bloat. Did SDC Ryno figure all this out faster than noted phd's that created it?


Zerocoin is the most complex of the bunch. It uses a combination of digital commitments, one-way accumulators, zero-knowledge proofs, and some extensions to the existing bitcoin protocol to attain an extremely high level of anonymity. It’s difficult to translate all of this into simpler terms, but if you’re interesting in a more ‘technical’ explanation you can find it here.

Of course, such a high level of anonymity does not come without tradeoffs – zerocoin has a high amount of overhead. A zerocoin proof (344 bytes) is needed for each transaction, and stored within the blockchain for eternity. These proofs must be processed by network nodes, adding not only significant storage bloat, but computational requirements as well. Keep in mind that the average bitcoin transaction is about 400 bytes in size, so this is no small amount.

Zerocoin is not even released yet, so it could very well trim itself down before then. For reference, the first implementation used a 50kb proof… But in it’s current state, it doesn’t scale very well. It would function just fine as an altcoin, but if you were to scale the network up to bitcoin size, it’s likely too bloated for it to work. Also worth mentioning is that all the fancy math that zerocoin employs could also open the door for some sort of unforeseen exploit.

bloat is not an issue when you can prune the data fool..cmon got anymore bs!


How about having to 100% trust that the dev will destroy the special key at the launch? You know the one that if he doesn't he can create as many coins as he wants at will. ? 100% turst SDCdev and trolls and all the other nasty coin bashing guys that lie about their developments? Yeah right sure mate!

Shadows implementation will not require a trusted start. It will be trustless. Just watch and see.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: October 31, 2014, 03:06:33 AM
I'm tired of being put in the middle, I'm tired of my computer and internet being under attack.

Here's the context, direct screen-cap. Formulate your own opinions and leave me out of it.

http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#0
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#1
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#2
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#3
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#5
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#6
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#7
http://imgur.com/a/1xbWq#8

I don't know who made this thread. I hold quite a few different coins.

Any smart investor is diversified anyway.

Does this mean blocknet is a scam, i don't know. That's up to you to decide.
Is Dan a good dev, that's up to you to decide too.

*edit forgot one

http://imgur.com/mfcZjA0

347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 31, 2014, 02:02:10 AM
A little pre-emptive announcement:

A group of Bitcointalk users have modified (or perhaps completely invented) some IRC chat logs and screenshots in order to spread FUD about the Blocknet and XC.

It's incredibly easy to create a "record" of any purported conversation you want and present it as fact.
However such logs are not provably truthful, and in this case are false and clearly are posted with malicious intent.



Irc logs are easy to fake yes as they are just stored as text files.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] Blocknet on: October 31, 2014, 12:04:33 AM
Why do you think SDC dropped out of blocknet. Now people are starting to see the light.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 30, 2014, 07:48:08 PM
The shadow is coming... soon™

You have some inside informations?

Just inside my head information. The voices speak to me from the shadows of my mind. Wink lol

Just speculating.

You're on the Dev Team, right?

EDIT: Hmmm… a NOV 5 release would be seemingly fitting for this coin.

Remember remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot.


My speculations are my own. Nov 5th is a good date and would be considered soon, so would dec 5th for that matter. Soon can encompass an arbitrary amount of days dependent on how the person making that assumptions perceives the value of soon.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 30, 2014, 06:59:34 PM
The shadow is coming... soon™

You have some inside informations?

Just inside my head information. The voices speak to me from the shadows of my mind. Wink lol

Just speculating.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 30, 2014, 06:22:17 PM
The shadow is coming... soon™
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 26, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Is there anyway we could create a faucet or give away for the real Anonymous community(I was thinking a darkweb giveaway, along the lines of a .onion or .I2P faucet). We need to start putting coins it to the hands of our own. Also I would love to help test if that's possible? I will be in the irc.anonops.com/#shadow almost all day today, please reach out to me over there. Im Silentone

yes this is planned.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 26, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
Read the article on deepdotweb.

3 observations:

1) its a good run-down of anon developments to date
2) the headline is misleading
3) it feels quite a lot like shadow propaganda (the whole Matrix thing + comic references + references to the Anonymous group)

personal feelings:

I encourage all anon development. It is incredibly hard (from what I gather). The chances of SDC rolling out a functional ZK wallet in November seem small. Comments?

Q. Is there a connection between SDC and Anonymous as implied in the article?

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How this bit of hero geekery pertains to cryptocurrency is because of a new project called Shadow, born of the the Anonymous collective, known for holding evildoers accountable for their actions

thanks in advance

Hit a few nerves? Thats cool, we all have our tools, thats what you should remember. And yes we are all anonymous its not a group you need to apply to become apart of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
You just are apart of it if you are fighting for anonymity as opposed to not trying to focus on it!  

As for the article being propaganda; i encourage you to take a look at the definition of the word itself. If you didn't like some of the references in it thats cool. It is a controversial one but however much it is; its still framing the facts. Truth hurts and its expected that not everyone is comfortable with the facts laid out.. I don't think the headline is misleading at all. Fact is, zero knowledge and Shadow eclipses any projects work to date!
Remove your emotion and stay focused on the fight here. Its anonymity, please focus your cannons elsewhere and contribute as opposed to pick at immaterial, emotional hooks built into an article..

As for zk being released in November, well no one really knows. There is a roadmap because the community wanted it (remember its only a guide!) but if the devs had their way there wouldn't be one to begin with. Because fools come and start picking at it and pressuring them (using it as a a base of argument) because the fools are betting so much on it arriving at a certain time..Which is stupid, this inst tried and true development cycles here. Its cutting edge and people forget that because they're not here for the tech they are here to bet on it..

Not my problem if they don't come in November, i'm not betting on it like fools seem to and i wont be hurt if it doesn't ever come at all!

I'm here for the tech what are you here for? Because if we don't get behind tech advancement like this and support it but instead bash its every move to exist like so many fools are with their impatience and lack of respect and understanding for this industry. We will hand more rubbish onto our kids and fuck up any kind of hope they have at gaining back and keeping some of the freedoms they have! You are either against that or for it. All because of some fools wanting to bet on its price and upset because its taking so long so proceed to waste perfect forum space, time and energy on stupid questions, stupid issues and pointless, baseless accusations!

4 months!! To do what this project has done. It, by far, eclipses any project in cryptocurrency world to date! You cannot deny it!

One question to that:

Does Shadowsend v.2 if it is as described in the article make Darkcoin, Blackcoin, Bitcoindark worthless?

Because in the end ShadowCash delivers the best anon feature which does not need any nodes?

Please don't understand my question as a "fight" I just want to understand in which Anon Coin an investor should invest for the future.

Thanks!



Real questions aren't fights and are always welcomed.

 If you are going for the end-all anonymity feature then yes, ShadowSend v2 will make certain other anon-focused Crypto-Currencies obsolete. However, I believe that each project that is honest and works on their development will have some sort of place within the scene. For BlackCoin however, as they are non anon-focused this lies different. In my mind it would be Bitcoin as the premier PoW coin, BlackCoin as the premier PoS coin and ShadowCash as the premier anon coin with its release of ZK tech.

ZK Anon tech is the holy grail of anon, and is the top rung of the ladder. I myself as far as anon coin investing have 80% in sdc witht he rest spread among other anon coins, because in the long run Shadow will give me the greatest return on investment and be the clear leader with ZK release. Hypers and pumpers run amock in the alt coin world so there are always unexpected rises based off fluff, or people speculating.

As in all things do your research, and at the very least keep and eye on shadow and watch for ZK to release.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: October 26, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
People! Can't we all just get along ? (I've seen that in a movie  Grin)
Well, at list for a while ?
LongandShort is just a hypocrite safeguarding his investment, but we don't really care about him.
He will pop up here when any announcement will be made...all of course in the name of "technology", being afraid that his shadow will came in second. So fuck him...he is a loser....but what about the rest of us ?
So can we stay in our own threads for a while? I'm tired of this shit...please ?

See but that begs the question, what counts as someones own thread? IS every person limited to only one coin? What if they hold multiple coins, what then?
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! on: October 26, 2014, 04:29:27 PM
Really again?


Seriously… you're acting like a total sh*tface and damaging SDC in the process. The SDC community in tiny and will not evolve with your style of leadership imo. Good luck with that!

Bye-bye

For the record Longandshort is an investor and a supporter he is not on the dev team.

Now you asked some legit questions in sdc thread, as well as long asked a question and pointed some things out in here, just as you did in sdc.

Neither one were troll or fud threads. They both raised points. Longs was perhaps a bit more colorful but everyone expresses opinions differently, his wasn't even about xst it was a response about bitcoin price and silkroad. Now that people are attacking each other its just going to devolve even more.

Child_harold I don't think anyone attacked your questions in sdc. Yet here people insists on attacking long and short, which is just going to devolve this mess even further.


Those dumbs who invested in shadowcash not get tired.
Only an idiot to not realize that zero knowledge will never be implemented because simply there is no zerocoin / zerocash.
Shadowcoin devs were trying to dump some coins and appeared speaking that is almost ready and will be implemented in early November lol.
They made a small pump for 36 hours with 15 btc and then dumped 50 btc in suckers lol
If zero knowledge is about to be released, then why is in the roadmap to copy and paste the code from monero to implement ring signatures?
If zk works, no need to ring signatures. lol
Just look to bittrex. Dump volumes are much larger than those used to raise the price.
Just need buy 20 coins for the price rise and sell 500 sdc to fall to 15k lol

Do you even argue with any facts to back up your statement? Or even do any research before spouting off an answer or do you just reply emotionally?

Come on people grow up, and act mature. Someone has to be the bigger person.

Every community has people that act in emotional ways, its just the nature of the internet. Do we now look at every person that disagrees with a coin and check there post history and go attack that person in what ever coin they choose to have. What if they have multiple coins?

I myself have some xst, because I diversify, you never know what will hit big, do i hold more shadow than xst yes i do, but thats because i feel it has greater potential in the chosen niche market its going after. BUt i also have more BC than i do xst, as that has a clear leader in Clearnet tech, etc etc. it goes on.

Hell pretty much any coin that has a dev team that sticks around is worth investing some money into. The entire alt market is penny market mentality.

Everyone is so closed minded.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 26, 2014, 03:21:39 AM
Admit that you backed out of Blocknet because you have nothing to offer!

Lol if we had nothing to offer wouldn't blocknet back out on us. Rather than the other way around? Come on man argue with some sense at least. If your not happy about your price go complain to mr bobsurplus. maybe he can pump you up some.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 26, 2014, 03:15:49 AM
Hi guys, I want to buy my first SDCs. If someone is interested in direct trade out of exchange, please send me private message. Cheers!

Skaia, how come out of exchange? j/c
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 26, 2014, 03:13:11 AM
BTC-SDC   ShadowCash   46.19008140 woah 46btc of volume. SDC doing great

It's gaining traction.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 25, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
Happy Birthday Rynomster, here is to many more Smiley Cheers everyone!

+1 to that. happy bday man.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | 1st OS Stealth Address | iOS+Android Staking | PoS-SPV | HTML5 on: October 25, 2014, 10:36:27 PM
slow down guys with accumulation

i need some time to sell my other coins at a good price to accumulate here

I agree. Although SDC still looks extremely cheap it would have been nice to have a few more days to buy at sub 20,000 satoshi before the zero knowledge release

you had over a month to buy below 20k.
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