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61  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: February 22, 2018, 12:28:26 PM
Main difference is that bitcoin dont have physical form and money have. However bitcoin is more valued even from gold and as such represent quite danger to many bank systems. Many even try to ban it and some have done it. Many think that bitcoin is nothing and that it wont be worth anything and many who said this later regret saying this. Bitcoin is money like it or not.
62  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price stabilizes? on: February 22, 2018, 12:06:59 PM
I think that the price has already stabilized and there will be further growth.
Yeah you make sense Its because people involve bitcoin was continue to grow and this is the reason that the bitcoin was stable.We should be positive for bitcoin so that we always push it to make the bitcoin continues to rise.
Bitcoin's price will never be stable let us accept that fact as it won't change even if the government will regulate it. As long as the market it dominated and controlled by whales we won't see Bitcoin become stable as they are the primary movers of it. It is not like a stock of a company where the biggest portion is being owned by the company itself, the public float for a stock company is lesser than 50% while in Bitcoin most of the controlled position is from rich whales, that is why Bitcoin moving in thousands of dollars in terms of value.

In long term bitcoin price will never be stable but in short one price can be stable. Look at the current market price everything is almost stable with small price change in both up and down. This is stable price and in short term this represent stable one. But it we look in year graph then price is highly variable in all fields and we saw this last year when price went 20x times high then in start of the year.
63  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict where Bitcoin will be in December, 2018 on: February 22, 2018, 12:04:13 PM
Many think and hope that price this year will be close to last year ATH and maybe even go higher then that. Seen many graph and prediction on price forecast for this year and must say that this year never been so colorful for this. Price range is from 5000-100000 no matter how hard and silly this sound but prediction on this is divided on 50-50%. Some say it will go down (some say on 20-21 this month but this date has pass) other that peak will be on summer and downfall on Christmas. But to be honest its little hard now to predict price with some event that happen and upcoming one. Maybe best is to wait and hold.
64  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2018 be better than 2017 for bitcoin on: February 22, 2018, 11:57:59 AM
2017 is very phenominal fo the crycryptocurrency world, or best to say, in bitcoin. 2017 is the year where bitcoin boomed so much and at the same time had the lowest price decline. Fir me it's fine because both are important happenings for bitcoin and it is acceptable because it is volatile.
But now that we are in 2018, I must say that this gonna be the best year for bitcoin!

I must say that because we're still in early adoption and it's still a long run for crypto currency especially for bitcoin. And we're just too fortunate because even though we're not the early birds here still we're on the track. Likewise, we should expect the inevitable news that will try to discourage people to hop in.
only Think that many of Bitcoin users have bought coins for a few cents a coin and to date they have become almost millionaires. Although for this it was necessary to have a good Faith in the Crypto-currency and Apparently they had it.

Many are into bitcoin come last year when price went astronomically high and many of them come out with not so much income. Many have seen opportunity to make huge income with bitcoin price rise but ended now with waiting for price to recover to previous ATH and for that they will have to wait little longer.
65  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: February 22, 2018, 11:26:33 AM
Maybe why all are now into saving is that its expected to be many more forks on bitcoin and ethereum as well. This may be good reason for many holders to hold on the coins and wait for upcoming forks in hope of gaining much more bigger price. Off course bigger holders will hold much bigger amount bonus.
66  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: February 22, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
Little update for formula 1 fans

Haas   VF-18 (Ferrari)   February 14
Williams   FW41 (Mercedes)   February 15
Red Bull   RB14 (TAG Heuer)   February 19
Sauber   C37 (Ferrari)   February 20
Renault   R.S.18 (Renault)   February 20
Ferrari   TBC (Ferrari)   February 22
Mercedes    W09 (Mercedes)   February 22
McLaren   MCL33 (Renault)   February 23
Toro Rosso   STR13 (Honda)   February 26

not much for this but read that red bull driver Ricciardo already crashed his red bull on testing yesterday.
67  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: February 22, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
In this must say technological era many see investing as good solution for income, this is meant mostly on additional income or trading with stock market. But also we see massive usage of crytpo market and many see this field as future of currency. They might be right but investment on this are every day questionable by many government official and banks cuz they see this as treat. I try to see every opportunity to invest some small amount in some project here but without any good research of project its hard to pick right one.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: February 22, 2018, 10:08:25 AM
Lets just simple explain what tax is.

Tax is a non-voluntary payment to a country that is not accompanied by a counterclaim that a taxpayer receives from it. Non-payment or avoidance or resistance to taxation is punishable by law. Taxes consist of a direct or indirect tax and can be paid in cash or as a working equivalent. Most countries have a tax system that pays for public / joint / harmonized national needs and government functions: some set a single tax rate for personal income, some use a scale based on annual income, and some countries are almost completely tax-free or have very low tax rates for certain tax areas. Some countries charge taxes on corporate income and dividends.

With this in 99% of countries in the word is punishment when you dont pay tax, and there are some that have very small tax fee. This should be money that will state/country use for prosper but sometimes its more privately used then anything else.
69  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: February 22, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
Must say that MNU had luck last night. I mean goalkeeper de Gea made sure that MNU dont suffer loss. He really was in top of the game and after all think that Mourinho plan this maybe. However they dont have that good result but he probably aim for draw cuz MNU play awesome on home ground.

From tonight games I dont see anything special maybe this match can be interesting Atalanta - Bor. Dortmund, with prediction over 1.5 goals.
70  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: February 21, 2018, 08:04:51 PM
Sve dok je u granicama normalnog razgovara onda je sve dozvoljeno.
Za vikend cemo videti sta ce biti.
71  Economy / Economics / Re: Cashless society on: February 21, 2018, 08:02:14 PM
Concept for cashless society can be good idea, but many thing need to be said and done before this can be possible. Believe this can be done but from current point of view we are still far from this.
72  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2018 be better than 2017 for bitcoin on: February 20, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
2017 has being one of the phenomenal years for the people who had stayed invested till the last. It has given some of the unexpected rise during the last couple of months in 2017. Though the start of Jan 2018 was good the market kept moving up but during the later half the market started to sin and back to 10k levels at present.

How do you predict the 2018 year to be for bitcoin. Will it rise back like 2017 and if yes than what could lead to those rise and if no than what factors could be accounted for the downfall?

I think 2017 will be the last year where we see double digits pumps, the last year we had a pump of 20x and I do not think we are never going to see a pump of 10x ever again, but that is not bad news because the pumps will be greater in fiat, if bitcoin pumped to 50k in this year that will be bigger than the pump of the previous year when you look at it in dollars.

I think opposite we will see many more similar years like this and we will see much more bigger price in upcoming years and maybe is true that we wont see 20x price rise this would mean that price could be 200k and that is little to optimistic and must say right now little impossible.
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is bitcoin hit 15000$ by the end of this month ? on: February 20, 2018, 07:22:46 PM
We see finally some movement in price in last few days and right now think this is much better to see slow and steady recovery in price and maybe this is the best. Seen and read to many articles that suggest something about this but 15k no matter how close it is wont be crossed at least not this month.
74  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict where Bitcoin will be in December, 2018 on: February 20, 2018, 07:17:45 PM
This is long to predict but last time my pick was 10k for last year and we were over 20k. For this i would like to be like last one but many suggest that it could be around 35k this year maybe not on the end but this is estimated summer price we will see if this will be.
75  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 20, 2018, 07:10:38 PM
This question is personal for every single trader or individual. Some like bitcoin or crypto other like hard ones like gold or silver. For me i prefer crypto but many think that gold is better but think that bitcoin time is just beginning.
76  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: February 20, 2018, 07:04:54 PM
od pre koje strane ima i druga fora ali se putuje u djarmu. uzima se kreditna kartica OTP banke naravno i ide breko bitstampa. radi sigurno ne sme se prebacivati na master card  njihovu posto nema kesa oni su jedni za koje znam da ne moze da se podigne direkto na master card.
77  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to go below 4000$ on Feb 20 on: February 19, 2018, 06:24:35 PM
Well, it don't go this way. It may be a sign that the crash is already over and recovery will now start. Its market value now crossed the 1k mark once again. The increase is now continuous and maybe next month, its market value will get close to 15000 USD and that is a valid reason to invest now in order to earn huge profit.

Optimistically said but think we will have to wait a little more for price to reach 15k not just next month but think maybe end of this year. I hope im gonna be wrong on this but think we will see this price only when this year end.
78  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: February 19, 2018, 06:20:38 PM

Atletico Madrid are the most experienced club to play at the biggest competition like Europa league and champions league, just look at the odds, bookies make them as one of the favorite team to win the cup, but honestly when it comes to betting I would bet arsenal to win this time , they need to win something big this season, the investment on players was so big, the pressure are on them.

Your reasoning is very good. However I see Atletico Madrid as strong favorites, they have this winning mentality at the moment and Cholo Simeone is simply a better coach that Arsene at the moment. If it comes to that game Arsenal vs. Atletico it would be a great game but I see Simeone outperforming Wenger in every way. I don't understand what is wrong with Wenger, it's like he is not following the latest standards of the game anymore.......


....the only coach who can allow the PSG to win the champion's league is Guardiola


..... unlike Guardiola who is doing exactly the opposite. None of the things he brought into his teams weren't his invention, but he rather has this hybrid approach of learning everything he can from more experienced coaches. I still don't like him as a coach though. He went to win it all with Barcelona, but I think I could do it with that team..... After that he took over Bayern and destroyed 10 years of their previous work. He finally went to Manchester City.... and I see your point right there he seems very capable in managing teams that have this all-about-money approach. Since PSG and Manchester City are similar when it comes to that -yes I totally agree, I only don't agree that he is the only one. There are much better coaches out there, for me Guardiola has yet to manage a smaller team and show what he can really do when the budget is tight.


Guardiola's triumph at Manchester City is going to be entirely about spending money and he has indeed outspent all the European clubs since he became the manager at the Etihad stadium and that is the only reason why i deem him to be successful.

Guardiola is indeed a chequebook manager, I’d like to see him at a club wher he doesn’t have a seemingly limitless budhet.
It's really amazing and even when he was manager of Barcelona and had the likes of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi he continued to spend a lot of money at Barcelona and did the same at Bayern Munich who already had a Champions League winning team already.

He will spend money if club management have fund for it. Every team can be good with good findings but only one person can make them good and that is coach.
79  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will there be bitcoin $ 20,000? on: February 19, 2018, 06:16:33 PM
Many say this or that but to be honest this year will be stability in price for this year. Maybe we will see some glimpse from last year price but think this year wont bring so much like last year. Hopefully we will see another peak next year.
80  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price stabilizes? on: February 19, 2018, 06:14:04 PM
Im also sure that we are in stable price range. Also think we will finally see some better news and that we could see some better price in this year. Or this year will be price stable range from 10-14k.
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