I am torn.
One the one hand I very much appreciate the hard work that has gone into operating this pool and I feel for the admins who must now not be able to relax properly and enjoy Christmas. This community and site they've been building is now under threat and whether it will survive remains to be seen. I'm pretty sure they're feeling terrible right now.
One the other hand, it is very much the case that if you're going to offer up a service to the public you do have some (at the least, moral) obligation, especially if you're charging fees. I saw someone saying that they "guarantee" (how?) that the operators aren't making a profit. I would find this massively surprising. Taking 2% of 3000MH/s is no small amount and I would absolutely expect them to be operating to make a profit, in order to compensate for the time they must be spending supporting the pool whilst possibly working a "real" job too(?!) as well as any expense for resources. Middlecoin.com was doing 5000MH/s the other week. With their 3% that's equivalent to 159MH/s. Not pure profit of course, but server hosting will not cost that much (I bet some pool ops are running on hardware and bandwidth at their jobs for free).
We can't hold them to the same stringent regulations/expectations that we would hold a typical company, but I do believe they should be offering some method of reassurance or comfort to keep people on the pool in the future. I definitely like the idea of 0% fees for a while (it'd be a long time though before we recoup our losses but anything helps).
I messaged aTriz a few days ago actually offering at least two additional servers (dual Quad-core Xeons, 50GB RAM) and basically unlimited bandwidth resources to help with the pool stability (in my experience it's been a bit shit recently. ymmv) so I'm definitely supportive and want to help, but we do need an explanation. I'm particularly interested in how they were able to access our PINS (if they did withdraw in the standard fashion through the web front end, and they didn't find a backdoor way to authorise the withdrawal). If they were stored in plain text format then I will not be back here, ever. Storing any kind of security information in plain text is utterly unforgivable. As a sysadmin I would never trust anyone who had built a system storing plain text passwords.
The pool needs additional features such as: 1) Email alert of withdrawal. 2) Email confirmation (or at the least, alert) on payout address change. 3) Limit the accounts that can share the same payout address. 4) Auto-payout like middlecoin (daily if over X, weekly if over Y).
Of course if the hackers found a backdoor entry with admin/root access, withdrawals could be done bypassing any "live" alerting that's built into the web front end. Cron jobs that run multiple times daily to detect changes (i.e. perform reporting) might help here (if the hacker doesn't detect and delete them).
LOL happy christmas everyone.
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dont use p2pool.org scam, dont use winblows.
Thanks for your unhelpful, unjustified and pointless reply (which with regard to OS choice, is merely an opinion as any open minded IT Pro would recognise).
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I'm trying to mine GDC with the following line: C:\cgminer\cgminer.exe --scrypt -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 14336 --auto-gpu --auto-fan --gpu-reorder --gpu-fan 20-100 -o http://p2pool.org:9876 -u gMngTWRPr5pDcsnyL19b2KBXrgTvGdkEYr -p password but cgminer just sits there and hangs (it says started cgminer on a single line before going to an all black screen). When I press c I get a glimpse of URL not found and some other information but it vanishes before I can read it fully. Any ideas? Thank you! [edit] with some quick print screening it definitely does say no servers found, most likely the wrong URL.
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Is it ok? Is it not ok? I really like the hashco.ws community but I spend far too much time worrying about whether the bloody pool is available lol. Is middlecoin.com more stable?
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Are people still getting disconnects? The reason I switched away from this pool for a while was because of that, and there isn't an easy way to tell if things have gone wrong like there is with wemineltc (for example) - their android app and email notifications are very handy.
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Also if you go into 'User Settings' and then 'Coin Settings' and then select 'BTC (Bitcoin)' in the 'Coin:' dropdown list you can set the Auto Payout function.
Thank you good Sir.
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Oh, under the "coin balances" tab! I see it now. Not the most obvious of places to find it haha. I thought it was auto pay out.
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Oh I'm not annoyed, just worried! I'm sure they can help. I do have two entries in the ledger but no payout address (even though this is set for the BTC coin and was actually required on sign up): Round # Coin Address Type Amount Fee Donated Time 5173 btc AT_Credit 0.01163271 0.00029827 0 2013-12-10 23:01:40 5140 btc AT_Credit 0.00498661 0.00012786 0 2013-12-09 23:00:40 Any ideas?
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I've been hashing for ~36 hours now and haven't received any payouts. Should I drop an admin a PM?
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Holy crap, 12 mins on SXC = estimated 0.013668 BTC, or 1.647023 BTC a day! If only......
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Thanks - installed and running and the 24h estimate is 0.017433 which is a bit higher @ 16.30 USD.
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I've mined for close to 24 hours on this pool hashing at a solid 1.339Mh/s. With the pool being down earlier today it's actually about 22 now. My Confirmed Exchanged Balance is 0.00862353 and my Est. Unexchanged Balance is 0.0057242552.
Combined (I know it's factoring in an "estimated") that's 0.0143477852 in 22 hours. About 0.01576 for 24 hours. On BTC-E that works out to be 14.79 USD.
Is this likely to be about correct at all? I appreciate the estimated value will vary. Currently it seems mining straight LTC s generating about 18.38 USD at the same rate.
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It was quite possible, I lived in the USA before and met many unaware.
You didn't say anything about cut and paste, you said "convert". I understood that to mean convert the currency, not convert the format. I can hand on heart say I didn't mean to be patronising, I just misunderstood what you were getting at.
Haha, alright. A classic case of internet misunderstanding by both of us. My apologies - *offers hand for handshake*
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Tbh, there is no reason we can't have both formats if the admins deem it necessary
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Would it be possible to use mBTC instead of BTC so that we do not have to count too many zeros.
This would be good I'd prefer not to do that, because then we have to convert from mBTC to BTC when we want to value them on an exchange. You're not familiar with the metric system huh? It's like expressing 0.001 meter or 0.001m as 1 millimeter or 1mm, it's just a lot easier on the eye and brain. We are used to counting zeros after the point not before it. But until all Bitcoin sites start doing it there will always be confusion caused to many. Oh come on. Do you really, hand on heart think I'm unaware of the metric system?! Or were you just being patronising? You can speak for yourself and how your brain works. I was merely speaking for myself. It's entirely possible that someone might prefer something different to you. My point is that we can copy and paste the existing value (expressed in BTC) into exchanges for an immediate valuation in other currencies, without having to divide first. Your last sentence proves my point - most sites work in BTC not mBTC.
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Would it be possible to use mBTC instead of BTC so that we do not have to count too many zeros.
This would be good I'd prefer not to do that, because then we have to convert from mBTC to BTC when we want to value them on an exchange.
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My confirmed exchanged balance is showing as 6.619E-5. Is this normal? Or has an admin modified the code and tried to round the wrong kind of variable?
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Bravo on the name fellas. EXCELLENT job.
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We have 1 system with 2 x 7990 in (Gigabyte GV-R799D5-6GD-B) and we're having an absolute nightmare with cooling. Open rig at room temp, additional fans, and a guy with a degree with thermodynamics and fluid engineering helping to maximise airflow.
The second GPU on each card seems to run hotter than the first. The second GPU on the card further inside the (open) case cooks; it climbs to over 90 quite quickly every time, and we've seen a peak of 101. At these high temps the system crashes. Even running cgminer and disabling that GPU doesn't help (the temp still goes up!). We've tried various cgminer settings from I12 to I13, with -g1 to -g2 and threadconcurrency of 8192, 14336 and higher. Nothing is workable at the moment, though we'll try a lower intensity later today. Dropping from I13 to I12 though does result in a loss of around 400kH/s which is quite a lot over the course of a full day/week/month...
Next step is to try going to try replacing the thermal paste with something higher rated.
It's very frustrating because I personally have another 6 cards and 3 rigs to build... or not (and send it back). The only help with the additional rigs is that they'd be in a garage outside with an air temp of ~15 lower (throughout winter at least).
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Hi, Hoping to be able to post in the Hardware > mining forum at some point. I've a dual 7990 system and am having trouble with cooling and stability despite trying many various cgminer settings and having an open case. It's really frustrating as every day lost counts!
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